Does anyone consider Irving Fryar a Redskin
 

I like to post Redskin signings on here.... but wasn't sure if this one would qualify:

[url=http://www.tidewatersports.com/upcoming.htm]Upcoming Events[/url]

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I would say....No.

Tidewater had Byner, Theisman and Rypien at individual signings over the last 8 -10 months, but they don't have any Redskin signings for the rest of this year.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;314050]I would say....No.

Tidewater had Byner, Theisman and Rypien at individual signings over the last 8 -10 months, but they don't have any Redskin signings for the rest of this year.[/quote]
Yes, I went to the Bass signing... whats up with being in VA and hardly doing any skins?

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[quote=Redskin Rich;314052]Yes, I went to the Bass signing... whats up with being in VA and hardly doing any skins?[/quote]

I missed Bass. That would've been cool. I agree with you, it would seem to make sense to do more Skins, especially right after the Beach Blitz ? ? ?

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Jesus, will somebody get arrested so I don't have to talk about Irving f-ing Fryar!

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You didn't have to talk about him in the first place

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I am bored so I decided to check out this lame thread since I can't sleep. My answer to your question is no. He was only here what? a couple seasons if that and only had a limited amount of receptions. I think he had a TD or 2, but not much production for the time he was here. Was a waste of space like Andre Ware for the most part.

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he bounced around so much its hard to figure out what team he gets associated with. maybe the patriots?

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he was good for us, although obviously way past his prime. I had to live in philly a bit, and he was pushing a announcing career there.

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[quote=SmootSmack;314069]You didn't have to talk about him in the first place[/quote]

Agreed. He had a cup of coffee w/ us.

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I don't consider him a "real redskin". Very little production when he was here. I wish we had him at the start of his career.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;314072]I am bored so I decided to check out this lame thread since I can't sleep. My answer to your question is no. He was only here what? a couple seasons if that and only had a limited amount of receptions. I think he had a TD or 2, but not much production for the time he was here. [b]Was a waste of space like Andre Ware for the most part.[/b][/quote]

I fail to see the connection between Irving Fryar and Andre Ware except that you list yourself as "from the Detroit area." Fryar had a productive (if unspectacular) career whereas Ware never accomplished anything. I guess we should let this thread die, but I just wanted to make this (useless) observation first.

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NO! New England Patriot!

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I like to post threads when Skins players are doing signing events... I just wasn't sure if he was worthy of such a posting... He was with us 2 or 3 years and I have seen him at a game or two on the sidelines since.

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I think if I was going to have him sign something it would be a Univ. of Nebraska mini-helmet. He did pop around the league a bit and his best years were in Miami and Philadelphia (though he spent the most time with New England). I looked up his stats and he actually had better numbers in D.C. than I remembered.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;314072]I am bored so I decided to check out this lame thread since I can't sleep. My answer to your question is no. He was only here what? a couple seasons if that and only had a limited amount of receptions. I think he had a TD or 2, but not much production for the time he was here. Was a waste of space like Andre Ware for the most part.[/QUOTE]

So do you consider Timmy Smith a true Redskin?

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No. He only played the 1999-2000 season with us at the very end of his long career.

Being he was drafted by the Pats in around 84 or so and played I think till 92 with them, that would have been his longest tenure with any team. He should be a retired Pat.

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[quote=skinsguy;314409]So do you consider Timmy Smith a true Redskin?[/quote]

Anybody who sets a major record that still hasn't been broken en route to a Championship is definitely a true Redskin.

He never did anything else so why wouldn't he be Redskin 4-Life?

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No way is Fryar a Redskin. He played for way to many teams and really didn’t do crap while he was here.
On another note there is no way is Timmy Smith not a Redskins. Not only did he help us win a S.B he went off setting SB rushing records in the process. It’s sad he never really played much after. But he sure picked one hell of a day for his shooting star go bye.

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OK, OK... I get the point... This is not something that should be posted for a Redskin signing... but that is why I made the thread title as I did.

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Does anyone seriously consider Vince Lombardi a Packer coach? He coached the Redskins for a season. They don't even show him with the Packers in the Hall of Fame. It's just Redskins' pictures and stories.

So of course, Fryar is a Redskin. His stats are Redskin property.

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[quote=Oakland Red;315191]Does anyone seriously consider Vince Lombardi a Packer coach? He coached the Redskins for a season. They don't even show him with the Packers in the Hall of Fame. It's just Redskins' pictures and stories.

So of course, Fryar is a Redskin. His stats are Redskin property.[/quote]

[B][SIZE=7]YES!!!! Vince Lombardi is considered a Green Bay Packer.... gees[/SIZE][/B]

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:nono: i do not consider fryar a redskin.

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[quote=Oakland Red;315191]Does anyone seriously consider Vince Lombardi a Packer coach? He coached the Redskins for a season. They don't even show him with the Packers in the Hall of Fame. It's just Redskins' pictures and stories.

So of course, Fryar is a Redskin. His stats are Redskin property.[/quote]

Are you kidding? He was the FACE of the Pack from 1959 to 1967, and one if not the most successful coachs in American football ever. Winning 5 NFC championships.

He retired for a year. Then returned to coach the SKINS for only ONE year, passed away shortly after. He is a HUGE part of the packs history!

Yes Fryar WAS a SKIN from 1999-2000 of a 17 year career, 2 seasons and played 30 games, at the end of his career and his stats were OK at best. Yes, his stats will go down in SKIN history books, but he's a 2 season SKIN that will be remembered, more for just finishing his career here. Not doing much of anything.

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does it really matter

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;315207]does it really matter[/quote]

Exactly. Irving Fryar. Please...

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Vince I'm sure had forgotten his time with the Packers by early in his first preseason with the Redskins. No one serious about football still attaches Lombardi to the Green Bay Packers.

I mean, a team from a small working class town in Wisconsin - named after meat packers? That, compared to team named after the proud first Americans, playing in our nation's capital?

If Vince had run into Bart Starr in the street, he would have smiled, and shook his hand, I am sure. But then he would have turned away and rolled his eyes, and thought, "What an embarassment this so called "Starr quarterback" is. Here I am, coach of the Washington Redskins, and he comes up to me, like I am supposed to be someone who cares who he is."

Playing in snowy Wisconsin must have seemed like a dream at that point. Vince was now coaching the Redskins.

Yes, he had won the first two Super Bowls, but they weren't even called Super Bowls then. He led the Redskins to their first winning season in a long time, surely his most proud accomplishment.

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[quote=Oakland Red;315223]Vince I'm sure had forgotten his time with the Packers by early in his first preseason with the Redskins. No one serious about football still attaches Lombardi to the Green Bay Packers.

I mean, a team from a small working class town in Wisconsin - named after meat packers? That, compared to team named after the proud first Americans, playing in our nation's capital?

If Vince had run into Bart Starr in the street, he would have smiled, and shook his hand, I am sure. But then he would have turned away and rolled his eyes, and thought, "What an embarassment this so called "Starr quarterback" is. Here I am, coach of the Washington Redskins, and he comes up to me, like I am supposed to be someone who cares who he is."

Playing in snowy Wisconsin must have seemed like a dream at that point. Vince was now coaching the Redskins.

Yes, he had won the first two Super Bowls, but they weren't even called Super Bowls then. He led the Redskins to their first winning season in a long time, surely his most proud accomplishment.[/quote]
lol..... well, there are times you just have to walk away....:Flush:

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Humor seems to be lost on a lot of people here, eh Oakland?

Fryar is more so a Redskin than Andre Reed but less so than Henry Ellard.

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[quote=SmootSmack;315253]Humor seems to be lost on a lot of people here, eh Oakland?

Fryar is more so a Redskin than Andre Reed but less so than Henry Ellard.[/quote]


I am sure there should be no attempt to be light about subjects like this Fryar question. This is deadly serious stuff. If I was irreverent about this grave and vital question, then I think an apology on my part is due. ;)

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Not even close...he's a Patriot. That would be like an Eagles fan claiming Art Monk.

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Man... this thread won't die.... The intent was since I like to post signings for Redskin players on here, I was asking if he would qualify.....I wish I would have done the subject line differently.

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Nnnnoooooooo!!!!!!

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[QUOTE=Redskin Rich;315391]Man... this thread won't die.... The intent was since I like to post signings for Redskin players on here, I was asking if he would qualify.....I wish I would have done the subject line differently.[/QUOTE]


RR I have a question for you....What criteria would you use to determine just what a "Redskin" is? After reading all the response's to your question no one has mentioned what they think the true definition of a Redskin is, or should be.

My definition of a Redskin would be a player drafted or signed origionally by the Redskins, and played the majority of their years with the team. That's not saying there have not been many players who came to us from other organizations and made great contributions as a result, and are considered great Redskin players. In the case of Irving Fryar it would apear his allegiance had long since been committed elsewhere before he became a Redskin. Therefore, in his particular case I would answer your question by saying NO.

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Sure, I consider him a Skin since he DID play for us...

But when I think of him, the Patriots come to mind first.

It's like with Joe Montana...he WAS a Chief, but everyone thinks of the 49ers when they hear his name.

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[quote=celts32;315389]Not even close...he's a Patriot. That would be like an Eagles fan claiming Art Monk.[/quote]

You mean Jets? Wrong green team! :P

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I've been asked to kill this thread as well. Any more requests?

Please note I only take requests on threads you yourself started.