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MTK 06-05-2007 11:57 AM

Redskins Insider: This Should Hold You Over
 
[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2007/06/this_should_hold_you_over.html#more]This Should Hold You Over - Redskins Insider[/url]

Alright gang, here is the rest of the stuff I have for now (well, almost all of it; some things I am still working on).

Please keep the comments and emails coming as to what you want to read about on this thing the next three weeks, and as always I'll do my best to oblige.


Lance Briggs - The Skins and Bears have not talked about the linebacker in quite some time, and, in fact, there has been virtually no interest in the Pro Bowler, league sources said. Some execs would not be shocked if at some point the Bears just cut him - Briggs vows to holdout the first 10 games anyway, and Chicago has no intentions of giving him a longterm deal and he'll carry a huge salary as a franchise player - when the Skins would likely pounce.

Dan Snyder already let Briggs know he would get a fat contract here during trade talks earlier this offseason, and I doubt anyone would outspend him for Briggs, particularly given the paucity of offers for him on the trade market. Would the Bears end up just taking a low pick for him - maybe, perhaps. Either way it continues to look like he may have played his last game for the Bears.

Cooley - As of the weekend talks on a contract extension had not begun sources said (although I have no idea what they are waiting for). The Skins have made keeping him a priority and Chris knows as much, and they'll start negotiating by next month I am sure. I would be all about getting this done before the start of the season, by all means, and I know that Coach Joe's goal. The price will be cheaper and they don't want another Dockery situation. Skins currently $5.1 million under the cap (and still have rookies to sign, although only one, Landry, who will make any real money). Once the Skins are ready to throw the figures around, I know Chris is eager to listen.

Brunell - Is being limited to mostly short passes for now coming back from a torn labrum, but has been sharp I hear. Team is watching his reps closely and he can't try to throw deep yet, but is coming along well. Should he suffer no setbacks I envision the Skins eventually letting Collins go. Mark has a base of $1.5 million this season (non-guaranteed, of course) and two roster bonuses geared to his health. He gets $250,000 if on the roster June 27th and another $250,000 on Aug. 15, sources said.
(As for other QBs, Bramlet - who got some blog luv way back when - is tearing up NFL Zooropa (I hate U2 post-Boy but couldn't resist), and like I've been saying for a while I think he's the No. 3 QB. I could see Palmer on the practice squad, again, just taking a long-view guess here. Also, Jason Campbell could be the bargain of the NFL with a base of $572,500 this season. However, should he play 80 percent of the snaps in 2007 - a near certainty barring injury - he could make about $1.5 million in escalators that would add to his modest base salaries in 2008 and 2009.)

Other Stuff:

Some of you guys emailed me about Ray Brown, and whether he is still serving as an adjunct coach/conduit between players and coaches. Well, he hasn't been around this offseason and told me this afternoon from the golf course that, "I think this will be my year off," meaning a year to relax and enjoy his retirement. Ray said he won't be on staff this season but will do some local TV work and still pop his head into Redskins Park quite a bit. For that I am grateful. It was always great to shoot the breeze with Ray, and it wouldn't be the same 'round here without him.

Also, a bunch of people asked about the Zach Hilton signing/cutting, as he was released within days of being signed. Well, according to the tight end's father,, Hilton, a local product, was told that after an injury to a RB (the Portis tendonitis setback in all likelihood), the team decided it needed a roster spot for a better blocker, someone more like a FB/H-back. The team told Hilton's agent that Zach's run blocking wasn't strong enough - no shock there as he is primarily a pass-catching TE with great size - but there's a chance he could be re-signed later in the offseason.

Final results on the autopsy on former Redskin Kevin Mitchell, who died in his sleep in April at age 36, are still not available according to the Virginia Medical Examiner. The initial autopsy revealed a massive heart attack, but more thorough analysis should provide a full picture of the causes (sleep apnea was one possibility).

I hear that Rocky McIntosh and Cooley have both been standouts during OTAs. At least that's what their teammates are saying. Of all the rookies on the roster not named Landry, the veterans tell me that Byron Westbrook looks to be a real potential diamond in the rough.

We should get another update on Clinton Portis, and his knee tendonitis, on Thursday. I heard he was around The Park last week - when OTAs were not ongoing- working out. However, there remain some concerns about how much - or little - he will be able to do in the preseason. Like I've said all along on this one, the guy is a true gamer on Sunday - as fierce as they come - but has never been a big offseason/preseason/practice guy. A lot of his work habits will have to change and we'll see how his body responds to his first major injuries as a pro - and after carrying the ball about 700 times from 2004-2005.
Hence the unwillingness to move Ladell Betts despite there being repeated interest in him by other teams this offseason, to say nothing of the fact that Ladell seems poised to prove he can be a very efficient back as well (I know Earnest Byner is working hard with him on the fumble-itus issues).

BDBohnzie 06-05-2007 12:05 PM

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[quote]Of all the rookies on the roster not named Landry, the veterans tell me that Byron Westbrook looks to be a real potential diamond in the rough.[/quote]

Div III - Salisbury. RESPEK.

[img]http://www.meloncorp.com/arch/0088/Ali2.jpg[/img]

skinsfan_nn 06-05-2007 12:12 PM

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At this point maybe we can forget Lance Briggs even exists. And Yes.... Let's get the COOLEY DEAL DONE, that's a no brainer!

dmek25 06-05-2007 12:21 PM

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what do the faithful around here think about getting briggs for as low as a 4th round pick?

Schneed10 06-05-2007 12:23 PM

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[quote=dmek25;315697]what do the faithful around here think about getting briggs for as low as a 4th round pick?[/quote]

The blog also states that players say Rocky is tearing it up. If that's the case, what need do we have for Briggs?

Seems like an awfully expensive insurance policy for Marcus Washington's hip. The cap ramifications would hurt us down the line. I'd rather us pass on Briggs.

JoeRedskin 06-05-2007 12:32 PM

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If McIntosh is doing as well as they say AND it looks like Briggs may be cut - Why trade at all. Stand pat, develop Rocky, sign Cooley and, if he becomes available as a UFA and there is money left over -then, and only then, sign Briggs. Next year use the fourth on someone we can develop.

I would give a seventh or MAYBE a sixth for him.

We don't [I]need[/I] him and we don't need the extra financial constraints signing him to a big contract would cause.

ArtMonkDrillz 06-05-2007 12:34 PM

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[QUOTE=BDBohnzie;315692]Div III - Salisbury. RESPEK.

[img]http://www.meloncorp.com/arch/0088/Ali2.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
If Westbrooke somehow ends up on the active roster I might have to go out and get his jersey, just to rep The 'Bury!

BDBohnzie 06-05-2007 12:51 PM

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Hell, just talk to Coach Wood and get his Salisbury jersey...

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 12:52 PM

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[quote=dmek25;315697]what do the faithful around here think about getting briggs for as low as a 4th round pick?[/quote]


sure why not

MTK 06-05-2007 12:53 PM

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I wouldn't bother with Briggs at this point. We seems to be pretty set at LB, we're hearing good things about Rocky, let's use that money elsewhere.

Schneed10 06-05-2007 12:56 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;315706]sure why not[/quote]

Salary cap ring a bell?

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 12:57 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;315707]I wouldn't bother with Briggs at this point. We seems to be pretty set at LB, we're hearing good things about Rocky, let's use that money elsewhere.[/quote]


like on schobel if they let him go? hey matty, any word on what buffalo wants for him

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 12:59 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;315710]Salary cap ring a bell?[/quote]


i know i was being sarcastic and he said for a 4th round pick so i was like "sure why not"

dmek25 06-05-2007 01:00 PM

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whats the latest on Marcus Washington's health? i personally like Briggs, but he will be too expensive for the redskins

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 01:01 PM

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[quote=dmek25;315713]whats the latest on Marcus Washington's health? i personally like Briggs, but he will be too expensive for the redskins[/quote]


he has been practcing and they say that he is right on schedule for his recovery but he has been taking part in the OTA's

davy 06-05-2007 01:18 PM

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I'm not sure it's a good idea putting much faith in what the players say about McIntosh. I seem to remember the players thinking Taylor Jacobs was the next Jerry Rice. Let's wait till we see something on the field before voting him to the Pro Bowl. :)

Hog1 06-05-2007 01:29 PM

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[quote=dmek25;315697]what do the faithful around here think about getting briggs for as low as a 4th round pick?[/quote]

I personally have been VERY happy with the Skins personnel moves in the off-season. I would like them to continue with their current trend of fiscal responsibility, until the Dead money is less of a factor.
Hope that Rocky IS the real deal. Continue to glean a diamond in the rough when possible, always keeping an eye out for the errant bargain. Hang on to a full boat of draft picks. Save the BIG money deals to lock up our "home grown" boys.

JoeRedskin 06-05-2007 02:08 PM

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[QUOTE=davy;315719]I'm not sure it's a good idea putting much faith in what the players say about McIntosh. I seem to remember the players thinking Taylor Jacobs was the next Jerry Rice. Let's wait till we see something on the field before voting him to the Pro Bowl. :)[/QUOTE]

I'm not looking for him to be a pro-bowler. If he is, well then - good on'ya mate. I would like him to be something more than a turnstile which is what Holdman seemed to be most of last year. (How many tackles did he have? I just don't remember his name being called much).

But you're right, OTA's and mini-camp are far removed from game day. Let's all hope Rocky is not the second coming of Mr. Softie ("Omigawd - they're playing defense, how am i supposed to get open if they play defense?!?!? Ouch, my leg hurts, I must have a concussion.")

MTK 06-05-2007 02:18 PM

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[quote=davy;315719]I'm not sure it's a good idea putting much faith in what the players say about McIntosh. I seem to remember the players thinking Taylor Jacobs was the next Jerry Rice. Let's wait till we see something on the field before voting him to the Pro Bowl. :)[/quote]

Nobody is putting him in the Pro Bowl, but my thought is let's at least give him a shot vs. running out and paying big $$ to someone like Briggs when we might have a perfectly capable LB under our noses.

TheMalcolmConnection 06-05-2007 02:26 PM

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Yup. I have to say, this offseason has been pretty satisfying to say the least. Aside from getting a DE either in the draft or FA, I'm pretty happy with how things have gone with the limited amount of draft picks and cap space.

steveo395 06-05-2007 03:19 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;315733]Yup. I have to say, this offseason has been pretty satisfying to say the least. Aside from getting a DE either in the draft or FA, I'm pretty happy with how things have gone with the limited amount of draft picks and cap space.[/quote]
How long has you avatar said defecator because I just noticed that now.

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 03:25 PM

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[quote=steveo395;315752]How long has you avatar said defecator because I just noticed that now.[/quote]


you have got to be kidding right

drew54 06-05-2007 03:40 PM

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[QUOTE=steveo395;315752]How long has you avatar said defecator because I just noticed that now.[/QUOTE]

Since 04/01/06

offiss 06-05-2007 03:49 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;315707]I wouldn't bother with Briggs at this point. We seems to be pretty set at LB, we're hearing good things about Rocky, let's use that money elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

I agree, I have never been a big fan of high priced LB's, I believe you can find quality in the draft, spend the money on CB's, and D-linemen.

Briggs would be nice for a late rd pick but he want's way to much money, and he wont be happy until he gets it. He is not Lawerance Taylor, or Sean Merriman!

TheMalcolmConnection 06-05-2007 03:50 PM

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[quote=steveo395;315752]How long has you avatar said defecator because I just noticed that now.[/quote]

Quite some time, you're now maybe fifth on the list to notice. And actually drew54, it USED to say DEFECTOR minus the A.

724Skinsfan 06-05-2007 03:53 PM

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The current spelling is a much better representation of your contributive efforts to this board.

Hog1 06-05-2007 03:56 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;315770]The current spelling is a much better representation of your contributive efforts to this board.[/quote]

Sage wisdom

TheMalcolmConnection 06-05-2007 04:00 PM

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[quote=724Skinsfan;315770]The current spelling is a much better representation of your contributive efforts to this board.[/quote]

You want 3 months?!?! DO YOU?!?!?!

EARTHQUAKE2689 06-05-2007 04:02 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;315776]You want 3 months?!?! DO YOU?!?!?![/quote]


3 months in hawaii that would be great

724Skinsfan 06-05-2007 04:07 PM

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Awww shiite!! I keep forgetting your one of [SIZE=4]them[/SIZE] now.

Allow me to retract and put forth a better response...

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Hey, don't we have a smilie taking a dump?

TheMalcolmConnection 06-05-2007 04:13 PM

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We have one throwing up... close enough.

70Chip 06-05-2007 04:21 PM

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I don't see the need for Briggs. Even if the vets are wrong about Rocky, we still have Lemar to fall back on. Give the money to Cooley.

724Skinsfan 06-05-2007 04:22 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;315784]We have one throwing up... close enough.[/quote]


I like using that one for representing myself when I brag about getting the rare opportunity to drink large quantities (3 bottles) of beer in one sitting.

Oh, and I like the pace of the off-season so far. Most of our positions have a good if not really good player under contract for the next few years. I guess O-line is an exception to that.

TheMalcolmConnection 06-05-2007 04:25 PM

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Nice to get us back on track.

I'm curious as to whether or not we can finally get some young talent on the defensive side of the ball. Imagine if Carter can continue his tear from last year, Golston and Montgomery prove to be the beasts their teammates are saying they are and Rocky is at LEAST above average. I'd take that any day.

Sure, we have older LBs in Fletcher and Washington (just a little old) but apparently Blades is good, so that might be nice. In the end, it just might turn out our picks were gold.

724Skinsfan 06-05-2007 04:33 PM

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Golston and Montgomery HAVE to be great for us. If not, we are going to be hurting along the line for a couple of years. I think secondary is young and talented enough. If McIntosh and Blades can be good to great starters for us then we should always be able to grab a decent FA LB (Ken Harvey style). Overall, we have good infusion of very talented youth.

GusFrerotte 06-05-2007 05:15 PM

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Not only salary cap, but we might be able to get a DE still can't we?

70Chip 06-05-2007 05:39 PM

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I'll be looking for two things defensively:1. 4.0 yards per rush allowed or less, and2. 25 ints We do that, we go to the Big Game. Apparently there is a train wreck ahead that is smashing all my paragraphs together.

skinsfan69 06-05-2007 06:51 PM

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[quote=dmek25;315697]what do the faithful around here think about getting briggs for as low as a 4th round pick?[/quote]

Plain and simple we don't need the guy. Let Rocky do what we drafted him to do, and let Lemar back him up. Plus we drafted LB's. Let's stop going after other team pissed off players.

skinsfan69 06-05-2007 06:54 PM

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I think the coaching staff is going to find a way to keep Jordan Palmer. So we could keep 4 QB's which is unlikely. Or cut Brunell or Collins.

SmootSmack 06-05-2007 07:15 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;315814]I think the coaching staff is going to find a way to keep Jordan Palmer. So we could keep 4 QB's which is unlikely. Or cut Brunell or Collins.[/QUOTE]

Jordan Palmer seems like the perfect candidate for practice squad. Bramlet's playing pretty well in NFL Europe. So maybe he makes it as a #3 and probably Collins gets cut.


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