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MTK 07-25-2004 12:20 PM

Besides the QB position, the most interesting camp battle will be...
 
vote and discuss

SmootSmack 07-25-2004 12:21 PM

Where's the poll Matty?

MTK 07-25-2004 12:26 PM

damn you're quick SS! Gotta give me a second to post! LOL

SmootSmack 07-25-2004 12:28 PM

Oops. It never dawned on me I could see the post until after you were done with it, poll and all.

BrudLee 07-25-2004 12:31 PM

Three posts and I got the first vote!

The H-back position will be most interesting to me. I think the other battles on offense will be more situational, and the safety battle is overshadowed by Taylor's presence. I'm interested in the H-backs because with the team trading up to get Cooley, this front office has a lot invested in him (despite his low figure).

SmootSmack 07-25-2004 12:32 PM

Well I'm an idiot. I voted for logjam at H-Back but meant to click on Betts/McCullough/Cartwright

The logjam at H-Back is just too confusing for me right now. The receiver and safety battles are interesting, and from a fantasy football standpoint especially the receiver battle, but I think all five of those guys will make the team.

The Betts/McCullough/Cartrwright battle could result in one of them no longer even being on the team. Sultan maybe? Unless of course, he goes back to the practice squad. So I find that battle being the most interesting

Another battle I'm looking forward to seeing is who will start next to Griffen at DT.

Redskins_P 07-25-2004 12:33 PM

I voted WR. I think that position has the best competition simply because of the addition of Thrash. He's going to make guys work hard to beat him out. It's a good early test for both of our young receivers McCants, and Jacobs. I think Jacobs will have a chip on his shoulder because of his disappointing rookie season.

Daseal 07-25-2004 01:55 PM

It was a real toss up for me. I chose the safety battle. Everyone wants to hand it to Bowen but I've seen Ohalate play much better. I think Iffy wins out for SS.

The WR battle will be interesting, but I see us using Jacobs and McCants a lot. Trash is dead money.

Jacobs had a freak injury last season, Redskins P. Even Champ Bailey said he had more talent than any other receiver on the team.

Winskins 07-25-2004 06:41 PM

I think that the battle for center is going to be pretty heated, but I see Raymer getting the job.

SKINSnCANES 07-25-2004 06:52 PM

definitly wide receiver. This is an important roster spot to make becuase gibbs isnt going to use more than three guy that often.

Cush 07-25-2004 07:00 PM

Third WR

BossHog 07-25-2004 07:47 PM

I voted for the WR battle. Just to stir things up. Gardner may be the 3rd stringer. No. I forgot. Spurrier is no longer with us.

skinsfanthru&thru 07-25-2004 08:03 PM

[QUOTE=BossHog]I voted for the WR battle. Just to stir things up. Gardner may be the 3rd stringer. No. I forgot. Spurrier is no longer with us.[/QUOTE]

Thats the same thing I was thinking that it may not just be a battle for the 3rd wr spot but the #2 spot as well, especially with how much praise mccants and jacobs have recieved since Gibbs came back to town.

MTK 07-25-2004 08:24 PM

I voted for the WR spot too.

Mainly because I see it as the tightest of all the competitions. Jacobs and McCants are both very talented WR's but are still on the raw side in terms of experience. Thrash isn't anywhere as talented but the guy works his butt off and that will win him some points with this staff.

The RB battle could also be interesting if Betts gets nicked up early. McCullough is definitely an interesting prospect as far as his skills go. I wouldn't rule out Cartwright just yet either, but he seems to be on the outside track and since Gibbs doesn't utilize the FB very much, RB is Rock's best shot at making the team. If Betts can stay healthy he should have the inside track. But that's a big if.

Bowen and Iffy should have a good battle to start opposite Taylor, but it's kind of a ho-hum battle to me. Neither player really excites me as they are both have their own limits.

At H-back, who knows? At this point it really seems up in the air, once camp gets going we'll have a better idea of how things will shake out.

That Guy 07-25-2004 09:33 PM

I voted for WR, I've seen thrash and mccants, but i'm really interested in seeing how jacobs does.

joecrisp 07-25-2004 09:46 PM

The WR battle is definitely the most intriguing to me as well. Seeing Jacobs in the minicamps this spring really got me juiced to see how he performs during the preseason games. McCants was nursing a shoulder injury through most of the minicamps, so Gibbs was pretty much going on what he had seen of McCants in the filmroom, but it's obvious he really likes what he saw. He also really seems to like Jacobs, and loves Thrash's veteran demeanor and work ethic.

As far as I'm concerned, Coles is really the only guy whose position on the depth chart is secure. I'm pretty confident McCants, Jacobs and Thrash will all give Gardner a pretty good run for his money, and hopefully the intensity of the competition will elevate the level of play for all involved-- including Gardner. This could be just the nudge Gardner needs to take his game to the next level.

None of the other competitions, outside of the one for QB, get me as pumped about the preseason as this one does.

SKINSnCANES 07-25-2004 09:54 PM

I dont know if any of yoru watched this, although ims ure a lot of you remember it. But I was watching the 91 season on the NFL channel yesterday, and it was so awesome seeing how no team could match up aganist the posse. I feel we have another great chance to have that same type of threat. Except it doesnt have to be just three, we can rotate people and always have fresh legs on the field. If anything the best part might be having teams respect us enough to leave coles in single coverage.

Carnage 07-25-2004 11:04 PM

I voted wr because we have cap money in Jacobs, McCants and Thrash.

Redskins_P 07-26-2004 08:48 AM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]I dont know if any of yoru watched this, although ims ure a lot of you remember it. But I was watching the 91 season on the NFL channel yesterday, and it was so awesome seeing how no team could match up aganist the posse. I feel we have another great chance to have that same type of threat. Except it doesnt have to be just three, we can rotate people and always have fresh legs on the field. If anything the best part might be having teams respect us enough to leave coles in single coverage.[/QUOTE]

I agree SkinsnCanes. The talent is definitely there. People always tend to forget how potent Gibbs passing game was that season. Rypien put up huge numbers that year and if I'm not mistaken G.Clark and Monk made it to the Pro Bowl that year. I see Coles, Gardner, and Jacobs being very similar to Clark, Monk, Sanders. You have two speed guys with Coles and Jacobs, and Gardner as your "posession" receiver.

Gardner will have to step up this year and put up better numbers than last year. With most of the focus being on our running game and Portis.....it's going to be interesting to see how our passing attack pans out.

SkinsNative 07-26-2004 11:52 AM

Does anyone remember that Gardner was a 1,000 yard reciever not too long ago and has been in a flawed system. The guy is good and will flourish in Gibbs system. He has been one of the best #1 picked wideouts in that year's draft, he's young and it's too early to give up on him. Show some support.

Redskins_P 07-26-2004 12:00 PM

I don't think anyone has necessarily given up on him. It's just expectations this year are high. I believe that he will flourish, but we have to wait and see. He's got all the tools. No one is doubting him at all. At least I'm not.

skinsfanthru&thru 07-26-2004 12:11 PM

I'm kinda doubting him cuz I've seen him have the case of the dropsies at too many important times. Plus I'd rather him just have a solid year so he doesn't try to ask for Coles type money, which I remember him saying he'd hope he could get when it came for him to sign another contract after the team signed Coles.

Redskins_P 07-26-2004 12:20 PM

True, but I doubt he'll put up numbers like Coles.

skinsfanthru&thru 07-26-2004 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]True, but I doubt he'll put up numbers like Coles.[/QUOTE]

yeah I doubt he will either, but smoot hasn't played up to the level of a #1 cb a majority of the time, but yet has made it known he's gonna be looking for #1cb money this upcoming offseason.

That Guy 07-26-2004 12:39 PM

coles is simply amazing when he's healthy, I have no idea why the jets would ever let him leave ;) he doesn't even have that nasty WR ego that every other #1 seems to have... maybe someone needs to tell those other guys to shut up cause this isn't the nba.

Redskins_P 07-26-2004 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]yeah I doubt he will either, but smoot hasn't played up to the level of a #1 cb a majority of the time, but yet has made it known he's gonna be looking for #1cb money this upcoming offseason.[/QUOTE]

Smoot needs to back up all his talk this season. He's not playing under the shadow of Champ anymore, and he has said that this will be his year. I like the guys attitude, but you've got to show it on the field for me to believe you. He's had flashes, and he leads the team with INT's. He showed alot of toughness last year by playing through his injury. But the guy talks up alot of game. I hope he does well.

SkinsRock 07-26-2004 02:48 PM

I am also looking forward to the WR battle. Like the QB battle, it is a win-win situation as far as I'm concerned. McCants has proven that he be that big posession guy, especially in the red zone, Thrash is a hard worker that has proven that he can be a decent starter if needed, and Jacobs is the most unproven, but it seems that he is actually the most talented of the three. It will be quite interesting, and I also expect them to be pushing for Gardner's spot too....which hopefully will make him step it up as well.

Riggo44 07-26-2004 05:10 PM

I think Betts and the Rock are going to have a pretty good war over the 2nd HB spot. :angry-smi


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