Firstborns: we're smarter!
 

The eldest children in families tend to develop higher I.Q.’s than their siblings, researchers are reporting today, in a large study that could settle more than a half-century of scientific debate about the relationship between I.Q. and birth order.

Link: [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/22/science/22sibling.html?hp[/URL]

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I am a second child and my older brother is dumb as a rock.

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I'm a second child too and I'm smarter than my older brother. He's more street smart though.

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I'm smarter than everybody.

LOL

But seriously, I'm smarter than my younger brother. And MAYBE a shade smarter than my youngest brother. Probably equal though. I'm the oldest.

Interesting study though, and definitely a great debate topic for around the dinner table when Thanksgiving rolls around!

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The youngest child (sister) is the smartest person in my family :)

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I'm in the middle, and my older sis is definitely more book smart. i got all the looks

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My older sister is a complete retard ! I know it's not PC but she really is dumb. I mean the dumbsticity that she displays is utterly amazing to me. I don't know why it is such a shock to me every time she does someting new but it really does because I have to ask myself, why did her sperm have to win the race ? Jeez !

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you can tell a big difference between the youngest child and the oldest. My friends and I were just talking about this. I didn't know if one of my friends was the youngest or oldest and guessed youngest and i was right. You can tell by the way they act. Parents treat the oldest much different than those that come after. First they might initially be more protective but then they learned from their mistakes the first time also and do different the second time around. Also it seems they are less strict on younger children. For example, a parent may not be happy with their oldest daughter dating until she is 16 but maybe would feel better about their younger daughter dating at 14. The parents sorta get used to the idea and become less strict. I read that somewhere...

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I'm #4 on the list and I'm smarter than #1 & #2, #3 and myself are close in intelligence...that's not saying much, by the way.

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I'm the third of five, but the eldest son. My Dad was, shall we say, old school and I was often treated as the eldest. All my siblings are intelligent but I am the only one that went on to an advanced degree.

It would be interesting to me to see what role gender plays in the matter: Will and oldest son be more or less intelligent than an oldest daugther.

At the same time, there are so many variables in the factors that go into intelligence, to isolate just one seems fairly difficult.

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im the second of two.
both of us are smart and we get along.
but its usually gets the blame for what happens to me. even if we are grown up.

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First thing I did when I heard about this was email this story to my younger sis

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I have two older brothers and I'm smarter than both of them. The oldest is the dumbest in my family.

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Do you really need a scientific debate for something so FREAKIN out there. Doesn't mean shit or apply to my family or most folks I know at all?

They might have to start over, science nerds need work to....they will fiqure it out in a couple more centuries. Money well spent.....NOT!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;320681]Do you really need a scientific debate for something so FREAKIN out there. Doesn't mean shit or apply to my family or most folks I know at all?

They might have to start over, science nerds need work to....they will fiqure it out in a couple more centuries. Money well spent.....NOT![/QUOTE]

Other than Borat, I haven't heard anyone drop a "not" in like 15 years.

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[quote=djnemo65;320694]Other than Borat, I haven't heard anyone drop a "not" in like 15 years.[/quote]


Schwing!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;320352]The eldest children in families tend to develop higher I.Q.’s than their siblings, researchers are reporting today, in a large study that could settle more than a half-century of scientific debate about the relationship between I.Q. and birth order.

Link: [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/22/science/22sibling.html?hp[/URL][/QUOTE]

Not that I am opposing the thought here, but my IQ is 142, my brother's is 112. Big difference there. (oh he's the elder, I'm the middle child) My sister has a 124 IQ and she's the youngest.

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[quote=jsarno;320707]Not that I am opposing the thought here, but my IQ is 142, my brother's is 112. Big difference there. (oh he's the elder, I'm the middle child) My sister has a 124 IQ and she's the youngest.[/quote]

Ding Ding Ding!

That's the sound of your own bell ringing.

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I've definitely heard about this in twins, the first born is normally dominant, but interesting in siblings. I'm too lazy to read this, but is a nature or a nurture type thing? My older brother died when he was 5 and I was just a baby, so would I be effected by that?

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[QUOTE=70Chip;320709]Ding Ding Ding!

That's the sound of your own bell ringing.[/QUOTE]

Maybe so, but I think it has more to do with what you make of your life. Maybe in that link it shows that you become more lazy if you have an older sibling.
I know in my case, I used my brother as spring board...he was the bar in which I had to surpass. I tried twice as hard to beat him at everything, including grades. In fact, my friends that have an older sibling felt the same way, so I am unsure of how accurate that test is.

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[quote=gibbsisgod;320355]I am a second child and my older brother is dumb as a rock.[/quote]


thank you I am the smartest in my family and I am the middle child.

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Isn't Peyton Manning the middle child?

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[quote=jsarno;320725]Isn't Peyton Manning the middle child?[/quote]


yes he is

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320724]thank you I am the smartest in my family and I am the middle child.[/QUOTE]

See, that's what I'm saying...I don't think the test is accurate. In my observations, the middle child is smarter more often than not.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320726]yes he did[/QUOTE]

I think you meant, yes he is.

By the way, his older brother kinda sucks at everything.

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[quote=jsarno;320729]I think you meant, yes he is.

By the way, his older brother kinda sucks at everything.[/quote]


yeah i changed that

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320730]yeah i changed that[/QUOTE]


No biggy, we've all done it.

I'm trying to think of other brothers in sports, but I am failing to recall people. I know that Jose was Ozzie's younger brother, but only by a minute, and Jose was considerably better.
Pedro Martinez was Ramon's younger brother, and Pedro is one of the best pitchers ever to live.
Of course that is sports, not intelligence, but whatever.

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My IQ: 154
My older bro:125
little bro: 116
older sis:137
younger sis: 141

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I am the oldest and if I am smarter than my sibblings then I feel sorry for them.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320768]My IQ: 154
My older bro:125
little bro: 116
older sis:137
younger sis: 141[/QUOTE]

Where did you take your tests? I did an internet one where I scored in the 150's, but my MENSA test was a 142...so I count that.

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[quote=jsarno;320790]Where did you take your tests? I did an internet one where I scored in the 150's, but my MENSA test was a 142...so I count that.[/quote]


court ordered when i was put on probation and my siblings wanted one too so they gave them one but 160 is considered a "genius"

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I thought that 100 was average. I am 121

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[quote=angryssg;320853]I thought that 100 was average. I am 121[/quote]


i thought it was 90 that was average

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;320878]i thought it was 90 that was average[/quote]

Whatever it is, you know what I meant.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;320845]court ordered when i was put on probation and my siblings wanted one too so they gave them one but 160 is considered a "genius"[/QUOTE]

Actually 130+ is considered genius.

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[quote=jsarno;321064]Actually 130+ is considered genius.[/quote]


wow i read somewhere it was 160 ok then

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[QUOTE=jsarno;321064]Actually 130+ is considered genius.[/QUOTE]

Here is a link to the scores meanings:

[url=http://ask.yahoo.com/20031016.html]What IQ ranges are considered "smart" and "genius"?[/url]

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;321065]wow i read somewhere it was 160 ok then[/QUOTE]

160 would be considered extremely intellegent...above and beyond.

The problem is, a lot of tests are different, so maybe the tests you took had a scoring line of 160 is genius, meaning it has about a 30 point fluxuation.
Only the professional tests should be counted.