Ted Nugent on Gun Control
 

I debated weather to post, or not to post...... As you can see, I could not resist. After all, we have a couple of weeks until training camp to haggle it out.
This interview on Gun Control is as ONLY TN can do it. Generally......I agree with what he says. Enjoy

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo]YouTube - TEXAS MONTHLY TALKS - TED NUGENT[/url]

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Gotta LIKE THE WILD MAN, NUG! He's still ROCKIN! And speakin he's F***** MIND!

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lol

"I like dead offenders"

Me Too!!!!

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Unfeathered access to guns is definitely a bad Idea. What kind of society would we be if everyone was packing? I mean, how free would people be?

Anywho, people should be allowed to own guns and the laws in the books need to be enforced.

p.s. Early in the video he said that brave families left Europe to be free of tyrants and [I]slave drivers[/I]. I didn't know the pilgrims were salves.

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The Nuge is a little too extreme on his view of guns for my taste, and that's pretty much all I'm gonna say about that.

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I'm with the NUG 100% and I also don't like repeat OFFENDERS, which is what AMERICA is full of!

You FUCK with THO, THO FAMILY, OR THO LOVED ONES, YOU WILL NOT BE A REPEAT OFFENDER, PROMISE! NO JUDGE OR JURY NEEDED...THAT WOULD BE ME!
YOU ON THE OTHER HAND....BAD DAY, YOU LEAVE IN A BAG! THAT SIMPLE!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;328341]The Nuge is a little too extreme on his view of guns for my taste, and that's pretty much all I'm gonna say about that.[/QUOTE]

Too extreme for me as well

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we need some sort of gun control. and we also need the laws that are on the books to be enforced. and anyone that listens to that acid dropping Nugent needs to have their head examined

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[quote=dmek25;328350]we need some sort of gun control. and we also need the laws that are on the books to be enforced. and anyone that listens to that acid dropping Nugent needs to have their head examined[/quote]

For your info there dmek, the guitar and gun slinger doesn't do drugs. Do your homework.....next time!

He's probually GLAD his music offends you or anyone that doesn't like ass kickin rock n roll!
lol

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I wonder how effective Nugent's concealed weapon would be if someone sneaks up on him in the grocery store and put a bullet in his head? Preferably using a gun with a silencer.

Nugent is an idiot.

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[quote=saden1;328367]I wonder how effective Nugent's concealed weapon would be if someone sneaks up on him in the grocery store and put a bullet in his head? Preferably using a gun with a silencer.

Nugent is an idiot.[/quote]

Why don't you sneak up on him and find out?

What would any person with one ounce of common sence that is a law obeying citizen have against anyone with a concealed weapons permit, explain that?

Why is Nugent an idiot?

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I've never understood those who argue in favor of being defenseless.

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Clearly you don't get it. The point I was trying to make is you can not defend yourself by carrying a gun. If everyone is packing you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever.

The argument that somehow carrying a gun eliminates or reduces the incentive for someone wanting to off you is absurd. They'll simply go about it smarter.


I like guns, I go to the gun range a few times a year but I really don't think we should play laissez-faire with guns and go back to the wild wild west.

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[quote=saden1;328378]Clearly you don't get it. The point I was trying to make is you can not defend yourself by carrying a gun. If everyone is packing you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever.

The argument that somehow carrying a gun eliminates or reduces the incentive for someone wanting to off you is absurd. They'll simply go about it smarter.


I like guns, I go to the gun range a few times a year but I really don't think we should play laissez-faire with guns and go back to the wild wild west.[/quote]

The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????

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[QUOTE=Hog1;328385]The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????[/QUOTE]

Well said, and I agree. I just don't see a way of fixing the actual problem. Taking away guns is not the answer cause the thugs of the world will still find a way of getting their hands on them...giving too many guns to everyone could cause an issue of some kid that normally wouldn't do anything stupid the opportunity to do something stupid. Throw in the crowded jail system and we just have an ugly mess.
I still hold to the thought "you can have my gun when you pry it out of my cold dead fingers".

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gun control only controls guns for those that abide by laws in the first place.

If you're going to kill someone anyways, i doubt a weapons charge is really going to make you think twice.

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[quote=Hog1;328385]The point you make Saden is obviously shared by many. The philosophy with "everybody packing" puts everyone (thugs, and non) on an even playing field. Thugs are like any other predator, they generally look for the weakest prey. That is a fact that has any con will support. That's why you don't see bad ass's getting assaulted much. If you got an AK in your purse, they'll look elsewhere.
While Ted does have the wrap of being a wildman, much of what he says is fact. Our prison/justice system does not work. Check out ANY success's it is having......it's a disgrace. I do not condone all he advocates, but repeat offenders is BS. The Con's have all the rights. What about that is wrong??????[/quote]

What's wrong with the following statement? If you can't spot the fallacy then we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[QUOTE]The government isn't doing a good job of keeping offenders in jail. Therefore every citizen should own a gun to protect themselves.[/QUOTE]

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[quote=Beemnseven;328376]I've never understood those who argue in favor of being defenseless.[/quote]

Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.

However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!

This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.

Unlike UNCLE TED!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;328419]Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.

However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!

This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.

Unlike UNCLE TED![/QUOTE]

By your logic though, I wouldn't have the right-but rather the requirement-to carry a gun. And what if I don't want to carry a gun? What if some kid's mom decides she doesn't want to pack heat with a child around and she gets shot? Do you then say "Well, she was supposed to carry a gun. Not our fault"

Those that aren't for guns for all aren't spoiled crybabies.

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Geez, I HATE these tests! Just like the damn SAT!
I personally don't believe the gov't is doing a good job of almost anything in the justice system.

Oh shit, there's a part B:
I honestly don't know if every citizen should own a gun. While cons are citizens, I would not advocate their gun ownership. While persons having been judged, or demonstrated to be incompetent, violent, or just to F...n crazy, I would not advocate the ownership of a gun.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;328419]Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.

However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!

This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.

Unlike UNCLE TED![/quote]

Life isn't a video game or a movie.

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[QUOTE=That Guy;328400]gun control only controls guns for those that abide by laws in the first place.

If you're going to kill someone anyways, i doubt a weapons charge is really going to make you think twice.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely agree.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;328419]Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.

However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!

This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.

Unlike UNCLE TED![/quote]

LOL outnumbered in the streets? Where do you live? Gotham?

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;328419]Agreed. I'm skilled at street fighting, and have no problem with that. Futhermore, enjoy it from time to time, just to make sure the skills are up to snuff when need be.

However, for the crybaby's that really don't get it.....there are many times in life you can be out numbered in the streets (of course we are not talking about a controled match in a controled setting), a .45 Cal. GLOCK can be a nice influencer, of some FOOLS not making there worst mistake!

This can very easily be the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH! Anyone that doesn't get that has lived a very sheltered life or had momma & daddy wide there ass all their life.

Unlike UNCLE TED![/quote]
Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?

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[QUOTE=Sammy Baugh Fan;328323]lol

"I like dead offenders"

Me Too!!!![/QUOTE]

That was the best line. "I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."

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[quote=That Guy;328400]gun control only controls guns for those that abide by laws in the first place.

If you're going to kill someone anyways, i doubt a weapons charge is really going to make you think twice.[/quote]

Totally!
If anyone thinks stricter or more gun controls will help in the control of illegal firearms, take a look at the success with the war on drugs in this country lo' these many years.
We have WAY to many laws on the books now. We need to ENFORCE what we have. The justice system is unjust

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[quote=Lady Brave;328428]Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?[/quote]

LOL ouch let's play nice now

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[quote=FRPLG;328432]That was the best line. "I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders."[/quote]

I didn't watch the clip but what's his point, repeat offenders should be shot?

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[QUOTE=saden1;328378]Clearly you don't get it. The point I was trying to make is you can not defend yourself by carrying a gun. If everyone is packing you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever.

The argument that somehow carrying a gun eliminates or reduces the incentive for someone wanting to off you is absurd. They'll simply go about it smarter.


I like guns, I go to the gun range a few times a year but I really don't think we should play laissez-faire with guns and go back to the wild wild west.[/QUOTE]

Yes but if the assailant is crrying a gun and you are not then are clearly at a disadvantage. As has been said those looking to hurt me of my family are probably not too keen on following gun laws. Being able to have a gun to defend myself from them should be a natural right.


Anwyas I tend to agree with you but thought you were a little off base with that initial statement. I don't advocate a totally uncontrolled gun population either. I just find the arguments that guns aren't really protective silly.

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[quote=Mattyk72;328438]LOL ouch let's play nice now[/quote]
Sorry. That comment was based soley on his body of work so far. I'll try to restrain myself.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;328440]I didn't watch the clip but what's his point, repeat offenders should be shot?[/QUOTE]

I was quoting it because of the "over the topness" of of it. Not that I agreed with it.

He laid out several instances where not having a gun cost people's lives. He did it in a sarcastic tone and proclaimed "I am weird" several times meaning "I am weird when I think people shouldn't be able to protect themselves". Then he wrapped it all up by talking how all the instances he gave were repeat offenders and that had they been shot they wouldn't have caused anymore harm. Then the line was said.

It is not long. You should watch it for entertainment value.

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[quote=saden1;328425]Life isn't a video game or a movie.[/quote]

No shit! Who said it was.

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[quote=Lady Brave;328428]Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?[/quote]

I think your speaking about yourself, no mullets on this end.

Let me guess your scared of legal gun toters and hunters to.....tuff shit!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;328472]No shit! Who said it was.[/QUOTE]

Uh oh...hostility alert! LOL

It never ceases to amaze me how we as humans can get into such heated arguments over things that we generally have no control over. (myself included)

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;328472]No shit! Who said it was.[/quote]

Your post implied it and I inferred that perhaps you think it is. You're 42, don't you think you're a bit too old for honing your street fighting skills from time to time?


p.s. I'm a chicken shit and I've been sheltered my whole life so you'll have to excuse me.

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[quote=FRPLG;328445]Yes but if the assailant is crrying a gun and you are not then are clearly at a disadvantage. As has been said those looking to hurt me of my family are probably not too keen on following gun laws. Being able to have a gun to defend myself from them should be a natural right.


Anwyas I tend to agree with you but thought you were a little off base with that initial statement. I don't advocate a totally uncontrolled gun population either. I just find the arguments that guns aren't really protective silly.[/quote]

If someone wants to kill you're always at a disadvantage, whether you're packing or not.

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[quote=saden1;328484]Your post implied it and inferred that perhaps you think it is. You're 42, don't you think you're a bit too old for honing your street fighting skills from time to time?


p.s. I'm a chicken shit and I've been sheltered my whole life so you'll have to excuse me.[/quote]

Never to old bro, wake up. I don't mind controlled fighting either, you have to be capable of protecting yourself and I don't know how old you are and don't rightly care, because it doesn't matter, same rule applies.

P.S. No problem, your excused! lol

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;328428]Seriously... admit it... you totally have a mullet, don't you?[/QUOTE]

Hahaha I think I found a pic of skinsfan_nn.:joke:
[IMG]http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w316/redskins5605/joedirt06.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=saden1;328408]What's wrong with the following statement? If you can't spot the fallacy then we'll just have to agree to disagree.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The government isn't doing a good job of keeping offenders in jail. Therefore every citizen should own a gun to protect themselves.[/QUOTE]

I think what he's trying to say is that in the end, each individual is ultimately responsible for protecting himself. 9 times out of 10, the government and the police are there to apprehend and incarcerate those who have already committed a crime. By then, it's too late for the victim.

The key here is individual rights. You have the right to protect yourself and your family with deadly force, if faced by an aggressor with a deadly weapon. No, the good guys don't always win. Surprise is the advantage of the attacker. And many times, that can be the deciding factor. But it's far better to be armed with fighting chance, than to be unarmed with no chance at all.

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Well all you have to do is compare the murder rate in the US with other modern industrial countries in which guns are prohibited. The US is significantly higher. For those who argue that guns deter crime, how do you explain that discrepancy?