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BrunellFan 03-02-2004 02:58 AM

Would you rather have Portis or Davis?
 
Would you rather have Clinton Portis as your RB or Stephen Davis? Did Davis's release actually turn into a positive now?

Personally, Id rather have Portis because he's 22

but based on talent alone, im not so sure...

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-02-2004 03:00 AM

I'd take Portis since he has game-breaking speed, is 22, has amazingly quick feet, and is a decent blocker.

itvnetop 03-02-2004 03:36 AM

portis hasn't even hit his potential "prime" age yet... davis is still productive but his shelf life isn't close to portis'... portis easily gets my vote

huntz 03-02-2004 03:46 AM

I'd have to take Portis with his speed. Can't wait to see him take that first handoff and burst thru that D!!! ;)

Daseal 03-02-2004 08:47 AM

Both of them in their prime I'd take Portis in a second. Ah, a versatile back! FINALLY!

Paintrain 03-02-2004 08:47 AM

If Portis can remain healthy he has the potential to become one of the all-time greats.. Think about an Eric Dickerson-type career (without the jerri-curl and rec-specs for you old schoolers out there) where he leads the league in rushing a few times, an MVP maybe.. With Ramsey, assuming we can keep him happy and in DC, Portis and Coles, we have the most dynamic QB,RB,WR punch in the NFC, if not the NFL.. Davis was a back who developed into a good-solid back, but he was far from elite.

Skins fan 44 03-02-2004 08:48 AM

Davis 2 or 3 years ago. Portis for next 3-5 years. Good move.

Mexskins 03-02-2004 09:02 AM

Portis. I did like S Davis but I think this guy is THE MAN.


Hail from Mexico

MTK 03-02-2004 09:15 AM

Portis is the easy choice, he's 22 and has already logged back to back 1500 yard seasons and has scored 29 TD's. He's a far more dynamic player that Davis ever was. The guy has speed, quickness and decent hands. And don't be fooled by his size, the guy is tough and runs hard and doesn't shy away from contact.

I love Davis but Portis is the easy choice. Davis is closing in on the end of his career, Portis is just getting started.

celts32 03-02-2004 09:34 AM

Player for Player it's Portis, if only because of youth. However, if you factor in what it cost us to get Portis it's a whole different story. I would have liked to see this team with Davis, Bailey & thier #2 pick. Davis is long gone though, and I guess this website has kicked Spurrier enough for it already...

Gmanc711 03-02-2004 09:39 AM

The worst part about the S. Davis stuff, is that we just straight up released him, we didnt get a damn thing for one of the best runners, if not the best in the NFC. Unfreakingreal.

dieselhog 03-02-2004 09:42 AM

Based purely on here and now... Portis. Davis was one of my all-time favs so you know I'm serious about Portis.

beg8878 03-02-2004 09:59 AM

The best response I read was Paintrain's....."Davis was a back who developed into a good-solid back, but he was far from elite".

My thoughts exactly. We all loved Davis (except for the fumbles in some big spots). however, when you start naming off all time greats, his name isn't up there with them. With Portis, you can argue that he will be there in the end of his career by simply projecting his averages.

Granted, that may not happen, things can go wrong...but the "potential" is there for Portis, it is not there for our friend S. Davis. and that makes him the better back

Redskins_P 03-02-2004 10:07 AM

I have a lot of respect for S.Davis, but his last years with the Skins weren't so great. He had a lot fumbles, and it just seemed like he was slowing down. Portis has the breakaway speed that can cause a threat to any defense. Also, Portis has rushed for more yards in his first two years than S.Davis did. Portis is the man, he will make an impact immediately and this will make the Skins so much stronger it's not even funny. When you have guys like Portis, Brunell ( or Ramsey ), Coles, and Gardner it really makes it hard for the defense to key in on one guy. All we need now is a decent TE and of course a defense.

SmootSmack 03-02-2004 12:51 PM

I have to go with Portis, not only because of his age and Davis' propensity to fumble at the worst times, but I think Portis is more of a home run threat. Every time Portis touches the ball you get the sense he could break free and take it all the way, you don't get that same sense necessarily with Davis

JWsleep 03-02-2004 12:52 PM

One thing that was great about SD was his ability to grind out yardage, and get stronger as a game wore on. This is a must in the NFC east. Until Portis proves he can control the game in this way, I'm going to say SD.

But if he can keep his 5-ypc average up in DC, Portis is the man and the deal is a great one, especailly given how very young he is.

PS Davis did have some heart-breaking fumbles!

backrow 03-02-2004 01:00 PM

Sd!
 
SD earned my respect! Portis hasn't put on a Redskins uni yet! Compare the two after an equal time in B&G, please!

Larry Brown Forever! 43 was the Man!
Riggo was right there as well, but slipped and was gone a year.

RedskinRat 03-02-2004 02:18 PM

Portis. Davis was always close but I can never forgive him for coughing that ball up during the worst MNF game ever against the Cowpats.

I liked Davis for his heart and team spirit but we absolutely have to have a game breaker RB. Now we have one. Watch the O-Line love 2004.

BrunellFan 03-02-2004 02:28 PM

[QUOTE=JWsleep]One thing that was great about SD was his ability to grind out yardage, and get stronger as a game wore on. This is a must in the NFC east. Until Portis proves he can control the game in this way, I'm going to say SD.

But if he can keep his 5-ypc average up in DC, Portis is the man and the deal is a great one, especailly given how very young he is.

PS Davis did have some heart-breaking fumbles![/QUOTE]



The starting RB's in the NFC East last year were:

Tiki Barber
Troy Hambrick
Dung Candidate
Duce Staley

Besides Staley, none of these backs is really a hard-nosed, dependable, grind it out back...

Clinton Portis is ridiculously better than all the other backs in the NFC East, maybe even the whole NFC (exceptions are maybe Green and Alexander).

Daseal 03-02-2004 07:46 PM

Wasn't Buckhalter the starter for the Eagles?
Or maybe westbrook?

azskinsfan2 03-02-2004 08:47 PM

All I follow is the Skins so I had no idea who Portis was. Hopefully you are all correct and he'll be a Skins star for years to come. How does our OL compare to what he had in Denver though. Ours pretty much sucked last season. And I believe if Spurrier had kept Davis, he might still be our coach now and we'd have made the playoffs, like Carolina did with a lot of help from SD. Everyone also keeps talking about Portis' speed and game breaking ability. The same was said last season about Canidate. Without a good OL Portis may have his problems too. I certainly hope not though. With a great RB to balance our attack we should go far!!!

BrunellFan 03-02-2004 09:10 PM

Add 1 part Jansen
1 part Samuels
1 part Thomas
a fresh Dockery
a pinch of Friedman
A Gibbs seasoning
Bake with Bugel for one training camp
Serve with Portis

The recipe...
For the number one rushing attack in the NFL next season...

Ghost 03-02-2004 09:24 PM

I loved Davis, especially since we drafted and cultivated him and watching him break out was really satisfying ... but Portis is better.

hkh 03-02-2004 10:01 PM

Portis is better. He's the fastest back in football and yet he's still surprisingly powerful. Also, remember Betts. Now clearly he's not even close to being on the same level as these other guys but he can really pound the ball. He played well last year when he was healthy and Spurrier decided to give him the ball. The point I'm trying to make is that he'll complement Portis perfectly. Remember, Gibbs loved having two good backs as much as he liked having two good QBs. Now you have arguably the biggest homerun threat coming out of the backfield and a back to convert on third and short. I believe that Betts' presence can only make Portis that much better.

Mexskins 03-02-2004 10:33 PM

Portis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail from Mexico

Ghost 03-03-2004 12:30 AM

[QUOTE=Mexskins]Portis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hail from Mexico[/QUOTE]

Where are you located, Mexskins? I spent some time exploring Guadalajara, Ajijic and San Miguel de Allende last summer, really fell hard for that beautiful country, the friendly people, looking forward to going back, maybe living down there parttime someday. Hail from San Francisco. We Skins fans are all over the globe, aren't we?

Daseal 03-03-2004 12:37 AM

Betts Healthy and Spurrier giving him the ball? That happened for one quarter in game 5?

Spurrier running and Betts healthy were both rare.


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