Divisional Changes
 

Just within the NFC East Division - which non-Redskin offseason change upsets you the most?

Two that worry me are:

1) Eddie George to Dallas - the Dallas running game has been laughable of late - with EG down there, they could really be a force to be reckoned with.

2) TO to Philly - Say what you will, TO is going to excel anywhere - and now Donovan has a serious receiving threat...

I don't like Coughlin going to NY. In a couple years (if his players don't mutiny), Coughlin will have the Giants in the postseason, Eli or no Eli.

T.O. to Philladelphia, no question about it. George to Dallas dosent scare me all that much, in the big picture of things. However, he will probobly pop off a couple big games, but wont effect their team that much. T.O. will be a impact on just about every game. Its the first time they have had a very serious reciving threat, while McNabb has been under center. So now we can finally figure out how good McNabb really is.

Eddie George to Dallas. It just reminds me of Parcells picking up OJ Anderson with the Giants. This move really scares me, it gives Dallas a nice Power/Speed twosome and while it's not as significant as us picking up Portis, it's close. But given that Dallas had the #1 defense last year and now should have a solid running game, well it's a concern.

TO to Philly hasn't really concerned me as much. The guy is a definite weapon, and will make a huge impact on Philly's passing game, but the rest of Philly's wideouts are average at best. Double TO and keep McNabb in the pocket and we should be ok.

I really think that people are sleeping on the Skins. Its not the personnel as much as the coaching staff, the defensive side alone should be much improved. With all the questions regarding the d-line, if Gibbs and Williams thought it was that much of an issue then they would have addressed it already. I'm guessing Blache and Williams will figure out a way to get pressure on the qb, its not like Chicago or Buffalo had any All Pro defensive ends yet they were still good defensive teams. Plus I think our back seven will actually be better this year, look for Springs to have a big year. I'm predicting two tds for him.

Eddie George doesn't scare me in the slightest. I'm pleased that the Cowboys picked him up actually.

This guy has no breakaway ability and the most I've seen him do in the past two years after having the ball handed off to him, is to lean into the pile and gain two-three yards. It's so lame.

The only thing that bothers me is TO. It's going to be a tough challenge for our corners this year to cover him. I would think Springs would be the one covering him since he's bigger and faster than Smoot.

Other than that, Eddie George doesn't worry me at all.

TO and Kearse are the obvious main concerns. Both guys are big-time playmakers and could get Philly over the hump.

George is a solid pickup for Dallas but I don't think he'll have a huge impact.

Coughlin is already facing resistance from his players but that will change pretty quick. Guys will either buy in or he'll get rid of them. They still have too many holes to compete this year though. I don't see Eli making the same kind of quick splash that Peyton did, gotta give him 2-3 years.

My biggest worry (don't laugh) is Kurt Warner to NY. I don't see an immediate threat as a team, but all the pressure is off. He wants to play, there is no QB controversy. The situation is clear as to his roll and Eli's roll. It puts him back in the position he was in his 1st season in St Louis.

T.O. - he's a great player, but I think you have to still look at McNabb... I never get any love on this, but he has to be one of the most over-rated players of all time in the NFL. I think people will see this season with no more excuses that he isn't a great QB, just a great athelete. The move for T.O. and Kearse would be bigger if they didn't loose their starting CBs. That's big in this division. Coles-Gardner, Keyshaun-Bryant-Glenn, Toomer-Hilliard-Shockey. I don't think they have the defensive backfield to keep up anymore.

Eddie George - it would be a bigger deal if they had a QB they can rely on. Carter had a good season, but I think the controversy and competition will be bad on him. They will focus more on Henson than him and he wont have a great season.

NY - nothing too big other than Warner, which will be a bother, but not anything to win the NFC East. They lost alot on defense too which will make it difficult to defend the run (Barrow, Griffin, Jones) and too much within the division.

There is a reason George got released buy Houston uh I mean Tennessee. He's lost a few steps over the last couple yrs. He will help the Cowgirls but I doubt that much!
On the other hand T.O to philly scares the hell out of me. If he can keep his attitude in check I think he is the best WR in the NFL! wich is really going to help there offense alot! T.O sould have gone to Bal. :madani:

Interesting that no one has said Jeavon Kearse

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Interesting that no one has said Jeavon Kearse[/QUOTE]


If he stays healthy then yes, I believe he's a concern also. Kurt Warner is adapting to a new system, and he doesn't have the weapons he had in St Lou. Plus has he fully recovered from his hand injury? I see no threat in Warner at all.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Interesting that no one has said Jeavon Kearse[/QUOTE]
Kearse makes me nervous. And I would have loved to sign him. But he doesn't change game planes as much as T.O.

Warrner just makes me laugh! :rofl:

Let's agree!
 

Let's agree about this year:
TO will help McNabb, but McNabb still isn't Joe Montanna!
Kearse will have an injury by the 3rd week, the e-girls overpaid him, and they will not win the NFC Championship again!
The cowroids got E. George to keep QC alive. It won't work! Me-shawn will cry because he didn't get the ball enough!
The gints will have a firm grip on last place in the division. No Offense, and the 1 man defense will falter.
HOF Coach Gibbs improves our O, our D, and our record considerably, and we get into the playoffs!
Ole'BallCoach winds up with the NawthCaCalacky tarhils!

I forgot, adejimoh gets cut!

[QUOTE=backrow]Let's agree about this year:
TO will help McNabb, but McNabb still isn't Joe Montanna!
Kearse will have an injury by the 3rd week, the e-girls overpaid him, and they will not win the NFC Championship again!
The cowroids got E. George to keep QC alive. It won't work! Me-shawn will cry because he didn't get the ball enough!
The gints will have a firm grip on last place in the division. No Offense, and the 1 man defense will falter.
HOF Coach Gibbs improves our O, our D, and our record considerably, and we get into the playoffs!
Ole'BallCoach winds up with the NawthCaCalacky tarhils!

I forgot, adejimoh gets cut![/QUOTE]

I agree. But lets be realistic. Ade jimoh will make it to the Pro Bowl! J/k.

As much as I want to agree backrow. The Eagles are still the team to beat, and they upgraded on both sides of the ball. The Cowboys have a great defense. The Giants well, they won't win more than 7 games guaranteed.

The Giants drafting Eli. Don't count that kid out. He's going to be a headache in the division a lot longer than anyone named above.

[QUOTE=Daseal]The Giants drafting Eli. Don't count that kid out. He's going to be a headache in the division a lot longer than anyone named above.[/QUOTE]
That's true. But I doubt he will make many waves this year.

My greatest concern is the improvement of the entire division. Dallas and Philly improve with the personnel while NY improves with coaching. We improve with coaching and personnel. This NFC East goes from one of the weakest in the NFL two years ago to the strongest! Everyone in the divsion knew it was getting tougher so everyone improves to keep pace. Gonna make for a great season.

[QUOTE=Daseal]The Giants drafting Eli. Don't count that kid out. He's going to be a headache in the division a lot longer than anyone named above.[/QUOTE]

I'm not counting him out, but he's not doing anything anytime soon. He won't be ready for another 2 or 3 years.

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Interesting that no one has said Jeavon Kearse[/QUOTE]
I guess you skipped over my message, lol

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I guess you skipped over my message, lol[/QUOTE]

Oops. Sorry about that.

I think George will take the pressure off the Dallas QB - making their offense that much smoother.

I think - although not prime-time players - Vinny T and Keyshawn Johnson will add a lot of depth to their team.

I think we can beat them - but I'm unhappy with their off-season signings....

Ive gotta say TO on this one. And I dont care if its Springs or Smoot that covers him, its going to be a mismatch in their favor either way. Even if we had champ, TO still finds ways to make plays. You just cant shut that guy down all game. People argue that McNabb isnt that accurate of a QB, which could be, but TO is a big target out there.

What I would like to see happen is have McNabb lead TO over the middle and have Taylor and Lavar lay him out a few times, which in turn causes TO to start talking shit and yelling at McNabb, and forming the downward spiral known as the TO Factor.

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]
What I would like to see happen is have McNabb lead TO over the middle and have Taylor and Lavar lay him out a few times, which in turn causes TO to start talking shit and yelling at McNabb, and forming the downward spiral known as the TO Factor.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. TO has been known to alligator arm more than a few passes. Witness the first 49er-Giants game last year or 2 yrs ago. On one of the first plays of the game, Omar Stoutmire decked him on a deep out. TO was pretty much a no-show for the rest of that game. If LaVar gets a hit on him, it'll be curtains.

I would definitely have to say that Terrell Owens and Jevon Kearse coming to Philly is a bad thing. Terrell Owens is not a very likeable guy, but he is one hell of a wide receiver. He came from San Francisco where he was catching balls with Jerry Rice. He has consistently been one of the most dominant wideouts in the game. He is fast, has great hands, and is a big old target for McNabb to throw to. However, I agree that McNabb is not the most accurate quarterback and I don't think that his strengths cater strongly to TO's strengths. McNabb is an excellent athlete, great team leader, and his vision on the field is superior too, but he will not make the most of Terrell Owens presence.

Jevon Kearse, on the other hand, I think will really add fuel to a line that I don't feel showed very much fire last year. He is strong and blazing fast. Plus, he comes off the snap as fast as anyone that I have seen. I think that he will create problems for a lot of teams, but I think that the Redskins, and Chris Samuels, should do a good job of shutting him down. Just don't count him out because of his injury prone past.

But if you include the Redskins, we have made the biggest fear for other teams in the division. We got a coach who has won 3 superbowls (w/ 3 different running backs and quarterbacks) and has never had a losing season. We went from a rookie staff to one with over 240 years of coaching experience. Furthermore, we added some serious weapons to the offense with the acquisition of Clinton Portis and Mark Brunnel (who is definitely still a great quarterback). We regained one of the best offensive line coaches in NFL history, who has has stellar cast to mold. We have one of the best (and underrated) receiving corps in the league and we gained a real team leader and talent in James Thrash.

On the defensive side of the ball, we got a defensive coordinatoor who has proven himself to be one of the best in all the game. We got a talented young athlete on the defensive line in Cornelius Griffin (who I really have high hopes for) and a linebacking corps that should prove to be among the top. Marcus Washington is an upcoming star that should really shine this year and Barrow is a great role model and very instinctual middle linebacker. However, our best addition on the defense may be the rookie who we're all so hyped about. Sean Taylor is one of the best Safety prospects of the last decade and he should provide not only a great last-line of defense, but also the presense of a big playmaker.

So yeah, other teams offseason moves can make us a little nervous, but I think the moves we made will make them tremble.

[QUOTE=memphisskin]Exactly. TO has been known to alligator arm more than a few passes. Witness the first 49er-Giants game last year or 2 yrs ago. On one of the first plays of the game, Omar Stoutmire decked him on a deep out. TO was pretty much a no-show for the rest of that game. If LaVar gets a hit on him, it'll be curtains.[/QUOTE]
I wish I could agree. But 2 yrs ago I was at the 49ers game and Lavar had a clean shot on T.O. that would have droped him for a loss or minimal gain. What happend you ask?Owens bounced off Arrington and ran at least 45 yrds around what at the time seemed like our hole freeking team right in to the endzone where I was siting. :cussing: Lavar is by far my favroite current Redskin so I am not trying to bash him. I am just saying that's how good T.O is!

:httr:

Trotter to Phi, that one pissed me off. He's a bad ass for them, comes to us, is mediocre, then back to them and will probably be in the pro-bowl again.

NM Redskins, that's because we didn't use him correctly. Not to mention to whole ACL thing.

NM & Daseal!
 

I don't agree about Trotter being "All That". He came without any fluid in his knee, and managed to be the leading tackler on an otherwise unspectacular D. He had no speed, and no hops.
Our D was not an attacking D, but, both of you and I would have quickly addapted our game.
Trotter didn't have a first step. There was a number of games where he didn't show up!
He just wasn't a force! Blame it on the knee. Blame it on the Defensive plan, blame it on the surrounding cast, but we could have won the 5 games without him. So, really, how did he make a difference?
To me, he just was not a difference maker!

[QUOTE=NM Redskin]Trotter to Phi, that one pissed me off. He's a bad ass for them, comes to us, is mediocre, then back to them and will probably be in the pro-bowl again.[/QUOTE]


Please.....trotter ain't all that. I'll take Barrow over him any day.

Barrow is a beast, definitly an upgrade over Trotter. Only good thing about Trotter over Barrrow was his age, but barrow is in great shape so we should get a few years out of him while we groom a young guy.

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Please.....trotter ain't all that. I'll take Barrow over him any day.[/QUOTE]
Time will tell!