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The defense looked mean once again.

I saw the DTs controlling the middle of the line of scrimmage, specifically Golston, who did not look undersized at all. I saw pre-snap shifts being directed by London Fletcher. And I saw the Titans limited to a field goal that they never would have gotten without a 37 yard punt return yielded by our punt coverage team.

This quote from the Washington Times makes me feel real good:

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"It was nice to see London in there controlling things, and there was some positive feedback from the other guys on how well he did out there and how he got them all lined up," Williams said.
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We haven't had a brain at MLB since Antonio Pierce. We may already be seeing just how much better we'll be with London Fletcher. I don't want to draw too many conclusions from one preseason game, but I think we're showing signs that we're on our way to bouncing back defensively.

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I would agree there. Even our second and third stringers were playing well. I thought the entire second team played well and the front line of the third team played well too.

I'll say this however. If I EVER have to see The Ade play CB this year, we're done.

And London Fletcher is a total beast. I thought he'd be an upgrade, but he's much more than that. The entire LB corps was flying around and the DTs were absolutely blowing people up in the middle.

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[quote=Schneed10;339622]The defense looked mean once again.

I saw the DTs controlling the middle of the line of scrimmage, specifically Golston, who did not look undersized at all. I saw pre-snap shifts being directed by London Fletcher. And I saw the Titans limited to a field goal that they never would have gotten without a 37 yard punt return yielded by our punt coverage team.

This quote from the Washington Times makes me feel real good:



We haven't had a brain at MLB since Antonio Pierce. We may already be seeing just how much better we'll be with London Fletcher. I don't want to draw too many conclusions from one preseason game, but I think we're showing signs that we're on our way to bouncing back defensively.[/quote]

I was stunned by how good Fletcher looked. For once, the hype seem right. The guy was a tackling machine. The combination of his low level of gravity, strength, and real hustle was awesome. Rocky looked good too and so did Landry. We've stepped it up in three positions for sure and Golston looked improved. I hope I'm not just seeing things.

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it seemed overall that the skins defense was flying around, and getting after the ball. that only takes alittle hustle. wonder why they weren't doing it last season? but i don't know about the brain statement. i think Lamar knew the position. i just think there were too many injuries

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I think the defense played well. One thing I noticed was the number of defenders that were around the ball at the end of the play. I do think we also have to remember that there was no VY in the game. With him in the game I think our DE's and OLB's would have had to stay at home a little bit more to respect the bootleg.

Overall a good performance from the d. The O, just plain horrible.

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Fletcher was all over the place, he'll prove to be worth every penny.

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[QUOTE=Crazyhorse1;339626]I was stunned by how good Fletcher looked. For once, the hype seem right. The guy was a tackling machine. The combination of his low level of gravity, strength, and real hustle was awesome. Rocky looked good too and so did Landry. We've stepped it up in three positions for sure and Golston looked improved. I hope I'm not just seeing things.[/QUOTE]


He did look good, however I'm concerned with whether or not he'll wear down over the course of the season. He's far from ancient but with the Bills not willing to pay him, I'm kind of curious. We haven't had a lot of experience with getting it right on a player that other teams weren't that interested in.

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The defense looked very nice, pleasantly surprised with Fletcher. And it looked like Springs was back to 2004 form. Plus, we did all that without Griffin I believe.

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The Bills don't know what the hell they are doing. On one hand they let key guys go like Fletcher and Clements, then they turn around and spend huge cash on Dockery. I wouldn't worry about their moves saying anything about Fletcher.

He's a tackling machine, always has been.

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Blades really is a clone of Fletcher. It's funny to see them standing together, let's just hope Blades ends up having a career like Fletcher's. He certainly has a good mentor to learn from.

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It was great to see the defense fired up, especially for a pre-season game. If the defense can return to its 2005 form, we'll win some close games this season. Now for the offense, the starting team was pitiful. I wanted to barf every time they showed a close-up of Saunders.

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Funny, this game looked like a 2004 - except we won.

There were some great signs on D as mentioned. We were playing an O that we should dominate & we did.

Did anyone see Hickman take the field?

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[quote=Mattyk72;339675]The Bills don't know what the hell they are doing. On one hand they let key guys go like Fletcher and Clements, then they turn around and spend huge cash on Dockery. I wouldn't worry about their moves saying anything about Fletcher.

He's a tackling machine, always has been.[/quote]


You beat me to it. The Bills have no idea what they're doing. Don't forget they let go of Spikes too. He wasn't as good as Fletch, but half of your linebacking core, your best corner, and you overpay for a guard.

Let's not forget about McGahee getting away too.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;339623]I would agree there. Even our second and third stringers were playing well. I thought the entire second team played well and the front line of the third team played well too.

I'll say this however. If I EVER have to see The Ade play CB this year, we're done.

And London Fletcher is a total beast. I thought he'd be an upgrade, but he's much more than that. The entire LB corps was flying around and the DTs were absolutely blowing people up in the middle.[/quote]

Did I miss something... because I didn't see Rogers out there all night, or Smoot?? Did they not play, or did I not see them... ??

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I saw Smoot, I don't recall seeing Rogers, but I think he was out there.

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I'm sure I saw #22 out there. I do think he saw limited action.

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I'm a bit concerned with our offensive line right now. I liked the way Jason threw the ball but I think we have to take a wait and see approach when it comes to the offense considering we didn't play ladell or portis at all. Those 2 guys will open up our passing attack.

Defensively we looked great. Really am impressed with what I saw there but like someone else already said the Titans weren't playing Vince Young. Landry, Rocky, Springs, Golston and the Defensive line looked really good.

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Fletcher, Rocky, and Landry will breathe new live into our D. Add a healthy Griffin and and a healthy Marcus Washington, and I can see us returning as a top 10-12 unit.

I cannot wait to see TO going across the middle with Taylor and Landry back there. We all know that TO's afraid of Taylor, and now he has another head hunter to worry about :smashfrea

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[quote=Cowell;339691]I saw Smoot, I don't recall seeing Rogers, but I think he was out there.[/quote]

Rogers was out there for a significant portion of time. And if you didn't notice him, that's a good thing for a CB. I thought he held his part of the field down decently.

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[quote=dmek25;339628]it seemed overall that the skins defense was flying around, and getting after the ball. that only takes alittle hustle. wonder why they weren't doing it last season? but i don't know about the brain statement. i think Lamar knew the position. i just think there were too many injuries[/quote]

I don't think you're getting me. Lamar knew the position in terms of his own assignments, but he wasn't the field general that Antonio Pierce was. Nowhere cose. Pierce had that knack of being able to read the offensive formations in a heartbeat, and call out adjustments. You'd see him running up and slapping linemen on the rear on one side or another, to get them to shift and line up over different gaps. I watched Fletcher intently before the snap, and he was doing the same things (minus the slapping on the rear). He was constantly barking instructions to the line, and I saw plenty of pre-snap shifts.

When it comes to stopping the run, half the battle is being lined up in the right spots before the snap.

If you remember last year, you didn't see much pre-snap shifting with Lamar at MLB.

Pierce was our biggest personnel loss in the last 5 years, and now I think we finally have a replacement.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;339698]I'm a bit concerned with our offensive line right now. I liked the way Jason threw the ball but I think we have to take a wait and see approach when it comes to the offense considering we didn't play ladell or portis at all. Those 2 guys will open up our passing attack.

Defensively we looked great. Really am impressed with what I saw there but like someone else already said the Titans weren't playing Vince Young. Landry, Rocky, Springs, Golston and the Defensive line looked really good.[/quote]

Totally agree about the O line. I'm very concerned. They looked terrible.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;339686]Did anyone see Hickman take the field?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he was the one that knocked over Tim Rattay after he fumbled, leading up to Westbrook's TD. Number 75

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too bad the defense still dropped 2 ints

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The defense was undoubtedly most impressive. I was very much encouraged by their performance. I would have liked, however, to have seen more pressure on the QB. The only two great QB pressures I recall were: (1) Landry wacking the snot out of Collins; and (2) Golston blowing by his man and chasing down Collins.

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DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!!!!!!! I wish I could have seen it!!!
THAT is great to hear. I really miss a dominating D.....can't wait

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[quote=Hog1;339722]DAMN, DAMN, DAMN!!!!!!!!! I wish I could have seen it!!!
THAT is great to hear. I really miss a dominating D.....can't wait[/quote]


Not to exagerate the Landry hit, but it did take Collins a few seconds to get himself together and get off the turf after that hit. It was nice.

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[quote=hesscl34;339690]Did I miss something... because I didn't see Rogers out there all night, or Smoot?? Did they not play, or did I not see them... ??[/quote]

When you don't remember seeing corners and safeties, that's always a sign of a secondary playing well.

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I thought it was nice to see Landry & Fletcher our two biggest moves this summer come in and look sharp. I do not bank much on one preseasson so its still a wait and see but still nice anyways.

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[quote=12thMan;339724]Not to exagerate the Landry hit, but it did take Collins a few seconds to get himself together and get off the turf after that hit. It was nice.[/quote]

I love that!
All BS aside. Opposing recievers will hate to deal with our secondary. As bad as we were on D last year, ST still scared the shit out of a lot of recievers. Add Landry to the mix, and apparently London is the REAL deal (as well as a good guy), and nobody is going to want to run a crossing route.

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the same thing i think is gonna happen as it did in 04 and 05. the D will be be the life of this team and the o will be inconsistent.

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[quote=hesscl34;339710]Totally agree about the O line. I'm very concerned. They looked terrible.[/quote]

What was the problem there? Jansen missed a few blocks that got Jason Pressured a few times. That worries me because I was hoping that was the side that was strong. I hope they can sure up the left side with Wade and Samuels playing together. The Rookie looked ok, but I don't think I would have left Jason in there that long to take a beating from the Rook getting burned.

Oh and Brunnel LOOKED AWFUL!!! I used to like the guy but he got old fast.

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How about Froast blowing the guy up on the punt coverage? THAT WAS AWESOME!!

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[quote=12thMan;339697]I'm sure I saw #22 out there. I do think he saw limited action.[/quote]


Just keeping an eye out for my new fleece that Malcolm is going to buy me....

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[quote=hesscl34;339746]Just keeping an eye out for my new fleece that Malcolm is going to buy me....[/quote]

You are so going to lose that bet!!!

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YES, yes she is. In case you noticed, Rogers didn't have a ball completed his way. If I lose that bet, it's going to be because Rogers totally shuts down his side of the field.

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man i hope you guys are right about Rogers. it sure would be nice to have a couple of corners that can actually cover someone

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;339767]YES, yes she is. In case you noticed, Rogers didn't have a ball completed his way. If I lose that bet, it's going to be because Rogers totally shuts down his side of the field.[/quote]

Uh, the only way you win is if he gets SIX ITs!! Yes, I said SIX! That was the bet!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;339677]Blades really is a clone of Fletcher. It's funny to see them standing together, let's just hope Blades ends up having a career like Fletcher's. He certainly has a good mentor to learn from.[/QUOTE]

I was just about to post that very statement, nice job.

Blades is bigger than I thought he was much more stout, but I think he will bring the same instinct to MLB position that Fletcher brings, but he is probably not as fast as Fletcher, at least earlier in his career, but I think he will prove to be a tremendous pick when it is all said and done.

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[quote=JankySpanky80;339742]the same thing i think is gonna happen as it did in 04 and 05. the D will be be the life of this team and the o will be inconsistent.[/quote]

Not very positive!!! Sheesh!

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[quote=hesscl34;339782]Uh, the only way you win is if he gets SIX ITs!! Yes, I said SIX! That was the bet![/quote]

I know, but I'll lose with a smile if it's because no one throws at him.