Todd Collins Expected to Start
 

I don't think we should read too much into this, but definitely worthy of keeping our eyes on.

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Not really. Gibbs said if JC misses the next game against the Jags, Brunell would start.

He's just giving everyone work with the first team. Who knows, it COULD be to protect Brunell. :D

It will be:

1. Campbell
2. Brunell
3. Collins



I'd love to replace Collins with Palmer and get him developed into the future backup though.

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brunell and collins were to rotate the position throughout pre-season. So shouldn't brunell be ahead of collins right now because collins was ahead last week? That is what makes this a bit interesting.

I don't think this is very telling of anything though. I don't think either are going anywhere. Put J. Palmer on the practice team and keep both brunell and collins.

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Why can't we go ahead with the selection of a number two?

Since we were almost relegated last week to having the second string QB be the starter, why can't we just decide on one.

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[QUOTE=Skinny Tee;343474]Why can't we go ahead with the selection of a number two?

Since we were almost relegated last week to having the second string QB be the starter, why can't we just decide on one.[/QUOTE]

I agree. My decision is Collins, and that is only becuase the grass is always greener kind of thought. I think I know what Brunell does for us after what he's shown me in the past 2 seasons. Collins might not have the big arm strength but he's my choice. I know I don't have a choice in the matter but Im disappointed at both of our backups personally. My hopes and dreams all come down to the offensive line and the health of Jason Campbell.

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Didn't Brunell have some offseason surgery? Maybe they are holding him back because he isn't 100%

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I would love to see Palmer replace Brunell instead of Collins. All our quarterbacks have looked good, but Collins has done the best.

Lineup:
1. Campbell
2. Collins
3. Brunell

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They're doing this so Brunell will start against Jax.

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When did the notion start that Collins doesn't have great arm strength? I'm starting to hear this more and more, and now it seems to be the gospel.

He threw a nice deep pass to Cooley against the Steelers, and threaded a pretty nice needle with the appropriate velocity to Lloyd for the TD.

Must a quarterback fire off a Brett Farve-like rocket with every single attempt in order to avoid the "weak arm" label?

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it could also be as simple as Brunell has played ALOT with the 1st string over the last two seasons. He already has a sense of timing with Rabach, Cooley and Moss. Collins, on the other hand, has had very limited time with the 1st unit. But if we need our 2nd string or 3rd string at times during the season, it would be nice to know that both Brunell and Collins have spent some time on the field with them.

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If we need our 3rd string guy this season, well we are screwed. I really want to see the Palmer kid. He has yet to play in Preseason so I think he is headed to the practice squad unless we do something rash with Brunnel.

Re: Todd Collins Expected to Start
 

[quote=Beemnseven;343678]When did the notion start that Collins doesn't have great arm strength? I'm starting to hear this more and more, and now it seems to be the gospel.

He threw a nice deep pass to Cooley against the Steelers, and threaded a pretty nice needle with the appropriate velocity to Lloyd for the TD.

Must a quarterback fire off a Brett Farve-like rocket with every single attempt in order to avoid the "weak arm" label?[/quote]

His arm is weaker than most. I'm not saying he can't throw it 20 yards but there are definitely places he wouldn't even think about trying to squeeze the ball in.

We will see what he can do against the Ravens. It comes down to whether or not his smarts are enought to compensate for his physical handicaps (he has no mobility either, none) against what everyone claims is one of the leagues best defensive groups.

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I hope the Ravens aren't a bunch of cheap shot artists like the Steelers are so that we won't see any more QB's go down this week. I hope Brett Keisel and the rest of the cheap shot Steelers get what's coming to them! No wonder they won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago with stuff like that!

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Yeah just ask Carson Palmer

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Hey folk,
Here's a question for you...
Which QB has been taking the reps with the first team since Campbell has gone down? Does anyone know?

Re: Todd Collins Expected to Start
 

[quote=skinsnut;343787]Hey folk,
Here's a question for you...
Which QB has been taking the reps with the first team since Campbell has gone down? Does anyone know?[/quote]


They've been splitting snaps with the first team. I don't think they have made a decision yet. And, if neither lights it up the next two games as the starter, they will either stay with Brunell as the #2 or prevaricate in some way saying "we have two quality backups, either could replace Campbell, etc." This is assuming one of them is not traded.

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I hope we don't trade one of them. I like our quarterback situation ATM.

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Well, on the question of Collins' arm strength -- I keep seeing him fire deep passes with relative ease. He also seems to have a nice touch on the ball.

If Saunders relies on a QB's ability for deep passing with his offense, it doesn't seem he's concerned about Collins.

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[quote=Beemnseven;343995]Well, on the question of Collins' arm strength -- I keep seeing him fire deep passes with relative ease. He also seems to have a nice touch on the ball.

If Saunders relies on a QB's ability for deep passing with his offense, it doesn't seem he's concerned about Collins.[/quote]

No one has said he wasn't capable of throwing the ball the necessary distance. He can. The problem is the trajectory he has to use to get it there. On some routes, like the one to Santana, it doesn't hurt him because you like the ball coming in at steep angle. It gives Santana the chance to make a play. On others,like the floater he threw down the middle to Cooley that vaguely resembled a punt, the defense will either
a)intercept or b)put the receiver in the hospital.

My concern was that Collins could not make up for his lack of physical skills with smarts and system-knowledhge. I think he proved last night that he can do enough to be the backup. I still suspect that (assuming Brunell is not traded) they will hedge in some way to allow Mark to save face.

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if campbell can't start week #1,or he does badly,anybody think gibbs would hesitate to send collins in?