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SUNRA 08-31-2007 09:53 PM

Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Well here we are again. At the crossroads, where coaches and players meet to discuss whether a Bentley is within the budget or a bus ticket to the unemployment line. I have several veterans who I think will not be returning. James Thrash, Mark Brunell,Ade Jimoh and Khari Campbell. Jimoh is a decent special teams guy but never transferred the talent as a CB in coverage. I mean damn, just take a look at the Redskins website and you see Jimoh on the highlights and photos out of position. Like Jimoh, Campbell's strength is in special teams. But has a LB who can stop the run and drop back in coverage? I don't think that's what GW is expecting. Basically, H.B. Blades just out tackled all of the LBs in the league with 21 before the Jacksonville game. The rest of the guys are:

Askew
Beasley
Bell
Berman
Bradford
Brown
Brunell -Seahawks
Buzbee
Doughty
Edwards
Lefotu
Nordin
Sinclair
Trucks
Thrash
Albright
Boshetti
Armstrong
Sartz

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 08-31-2007 10:06 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Thrash returns kicks...he'll be back

holcknowsbest 08-31-2007 10:36 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[quote=SUNRA;346071]Well here we are again. At the crossroads, where coaches and players meet to discuss whether a Bentley is within the budget or a bus ticket to the unemployment line. I have several veterans who I think will not be returning. James Thrash, Mark Brunell,Ade Jimoh and Khari Campbell. Jimoh is a decent special teams guy but never transferred the talent as a CB in coverage. I mean damn, just take a look at the Redskins website and you see Jimoh on the highlights and photos out of position. Like Jimoh, Campbell's strength is in special teams. But has a LB who can stop the run and drop back in coverage? I don't think that's what GW is expecting. Basically, H.B. Blades just out tackled all of the LBs in the league with 21 before the Jacksonville game. The rest of the guys are:

Askew
Beasley
Bell
Berman
Bradford
Brown
Brunell -Seahawks
Buzbee
Doughty
Edwards
Lefotu
Nordin
Sinclair
Trucks
Thrash
Albright
Boshetti
Armstrong
Sartz[/quote]

so we are gonna eat beaselys contract? we are gonna get rid of thrash, for what reason, because he is praised by joe gibbs so much for his special teams plays? i think you are right on a few cuts but i think some of these guys are practice squad guys

EARTHQUAKE2689 08-31-2007 10:41 PM

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Bradford isnt going anywhere with the loss of espy.

cpayne5 08-31-2007 10:55 PM

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[QUOTE=SUNRA;346071]
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[B]Albright[/B]
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.[/QUOTE]

No way.
[IMG]http://redskins.com/uploads/photos/temp/main/JGGCADCKHCFL/Albright_Ethan2.jpg[/IMG]

DynamiteRave 08-31-2007 11:02 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[quote=SUNRA;346071]Well here we are again. At the crossroads, where coaches and players meet to discuss whether a Bentley is within the budget or a bus ticket to the unemployment line. I have several veterans who I think will not be returning. James Thrash, Mark Brunell,Ade Jimoh and Khari Campbell. Jimoh is a decent special teams guy but never transferred the talent as a CB in coverage. I mean damn, just take a look at the Redskins website and you see Jimoh on the highlights and photos out of position. Like Jimoh, Campbell's strength is in special teams. But has a LB who can stop the run and drop back in coverage? I don't think that's what GW is expecting. Basically, H.B. Blades just out tackled all of the LBs in the league with 21 before the Jacksonville game. The rest of the guys are:

Askew
Beasley
Bell
Berman
Bradford
Brown
Brunell -Seahawks
Buzbee
Doughty
Edwards
Lefotu
Nordin
Sinclair
Trucks
Thrash
Albright
Boshetti
Armstrong
Sartz[/quote]

Trucks has done great all pre-season. I think it'd be a very bad move to cut him because he's shown very good potential.

On a personal level I wouldn't wanna see Doughty go because of his child. Can't help but feel for the guy.

BrudLee 08-31-2007 11:07 PM

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I don't see a receiver on our roster that will take the 4th receiver spot from Thrash. He's reliable, has good hands, and busts his ass on special teams.

There are 75 guys listed on the roster (according to Redskins.com). Eighteen cuts from my ignorant eyes:

Berman, Carl
Hoag, Ryan
Toler, Burl
Nordin, Jake
Edwards, Eric
Armstrong, Calvin
Brown, Dee
Mason, Marcus (Practice Squad)
Brunell, Mark (trade to someone for a 5th)
Whitley, Taylor
Fabini, Jason
Trucks, Anthony (Practice Squad)
Sinclair, Matt
Askew, Matthias
Torrence, Leigh
Westbrook, Byron (Practice Squad)
Wilson, Chris
Bell, Brian

There are certainly vulnerable players left on the 53-man roster. I'd expect that Bradford would be expendable if McCardell wants to keep playing. The right player cut from the right franchise might shake things up here as well.

BrudLee 08-31-2007 11:19 PM

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;346079][QUOTE=SUNRA;346071]
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[B]Albright[/B]
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.[/QUOTE]

No way.
[IMG]http://redskins.com/uploads/photos/temp/main/JGGCADCKHCFL/Albright_Ethan2.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Yeah SUNRA, you don't want to piss off Albright. You'll be finding short red curlies in your food for weeks.

jrocx69 08-31-2007 11:22 PM

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wow sunra, we cut our only long snapper?????? lol. very interesting

wilsowilso 08-31-2007 11:56 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Practice squad predictions Buzbee, Hickman, Mason, Westbrook, Sartz and that animal who chased down the play with no helmet! Love that guy.

From everything I have read Chris Wilson is making the team.

Bold prediction: Trucks make the team.

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 12:02 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
mason has undoubtedly done the best of all our backs. tho he is goin against 3rd stringers. he was veryy good vision.

he is better at returnin kicks then rock is.

cut rock

RMSkins 09-01-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Here is who I have getting cut:
LB Matt Sinclair
LB Anthony Trucks
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Matthias Askew
DE Justin Hickman
DE Alex Buzbee
CB Leigh Torrence
CB Byron Westbrook
CB John Eubanks
S Reed Doughty
OL Taylor Whitley
WR Burl Toler
WR Carl Berman
WR Ryan Hoag
OL Calvin Armstrong
OL Kili Lefotu
RB Dee Brown
RB Marcus Mason
FB Brian Bell
TE Jake Nordin
TE Eric Edwards
QB Jordan Palmer/Mark Brunell

T.O.Killa 09-01-2007 12:34 AM

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You heard it here, Jimoh gets cut and Torrence stays. The animal with out the the helmet stays to. Another promise is Fabini is gone. I cant see Sinclair making the team, but the coaches love him.

That Guy 09-01-2007 12:45 AM

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i like trucks, mason, westbrook for PS. hating palmer right now, but he may stick around anyways. he didn't look like he'll ever be able to play in the nfl... depressing.

for DB, i think springs, smoot, rodger, macklin, taylor, landry, prioleau, and stoutmire are locks, leaving at most 1-2 spots there... rough. that's doughty or jimoh or fox... they tend to prefer 5cbs though.

steveo395 09-01-2007 12:57 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Here is who I have getting cut:
CB Leigh Torrence
CB Byron Westbrook
CB John Eubanks
DE Justin Hickman
DE Alex Buzbee
DE Chris Wilson
DT Ryan Boschetti
DT Matthias Askew
FB Fred Beasley
FB Brian Bell
LB Matt Sinclair
LB Anthony Trucks
OL Kili Lefotu
OL Taylor Whitley
OL Calvin Armstrong
QB Jordan Palmer
RB Dee Brown
S Vernon Fox
TE Jake Nordin
WR Burl Toler
WR Carl Berman
WR Corey Bradford

SkinsFan6388 09-01-2007 12:57 AM

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don't cut boschetti, hes a really nice guy. haha but in all seriousness he's gone unfortunately.

70Chip 09-01-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
My final roster:

QB 1. Jason Campbell
2. Mark Brunell
3. Todd Collins

RB 4. Clinton Portis
5. Ladell Betts
6. Rock Cartwright

FB 7. Mike Sellers
8. Mr. Beasley

TE 9. Christopher Cooley
10. Todd Yoder

OL 11. Jon Jansen
12. Randy Thomas
13. Casey Rabach
14. Petey Kendall
15. Chris Samuels
16. Todd Wade
17 Mike Pucillo
18 Stephon Heyer
19 The Great Fabini

WR 20. Santana Moss
21. Antione Randle-El
22. Brandon Lloyd
23. James Thrash
24. Ryan Hoag

DL 25. Andre Carter
26. Cornelius Grifin
27. Kedrick Golsten
28. Philip Daniels
29. Renaldo Wynn
30. Anthony Montgomery
31. Demetric Evans
32. Lorenzo Alexander
33. Chris Wilson

LB 34. Marcus Washington
35. London Fletcher
36. Rockford Mcintosh
37. Randell Godfrey
38. H.B Blades
39. Khari Campbell
40. Dallas Sartz

CB 41. Sean Springs
42. Carlos Rogers
43 . Fred Smoot
44. David Macklin
45. Ade Jimoh

Safety 46. Sean Taylor
47. Laron Landry
48. Peer-Son Pray-Low
49. Omar Stoutmire
50. Reed Doughty

LS 51. Ethan Allbright

K 52. Sean Suisham
P 53. Derrick Frost


That's just off the top of my head.......

They can put whoever they want on the practice squad. I'm not looking at the roster at this hour of the night.

70Chip 09-01-2007 01:26 AM

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[quote=T.O.Killa;346093]You heard it here, Jimoh gets cut and Torrence stays. The animal with out the the helmet stays to. Another promise is Fabini is gone. I cant see Sinclair making the team, but the coaches love him.[/quote]


You may be right. I hope he or Macklin can cover punts. Macklin does well for me on Madden, but that's 90% me. Yes I punt on Madden against the CPU (All-Madden skill level). Who do they keep instead of Fabini on my roster above?

Update: Jason La Canfora says they keep Kili Lefotu. And Marcus Mason might stay so that would push Beasley out possibly or they could cut Sartz and go with 6 Lbers instead of the seven.

Also they could keep 6 CBs and 4 safeties which would mean Stoutmire or Doughty are out and possibly Lee Torrance and Jimoh could stay. To me that's the toughest call they will have.

Furthermore, obviously Hoag as 5th WR is a flyer on my part. It will more likely be Bradford. Gibbs was asked about this in his presser today and said that keeping 5 is not "essential" but that you would be "right on the ragged edge" with 4. You have to hope no one gets hurt. I interpret that to mean they are most likely keeping 5 but if they absolutely can't bring themselves to cut Doughty, for example, they might take that chance.

WestCoastSkinsFan 09-01-2007 01:54 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
I'm crossing my fingers for Trucks. He works his butt off, and I'm also a complete and utter homer for a local guy. In all seriousness, I think he may have earned a spot.

holcknowsbest 09-01-2007 08:51 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
if we dont cut jordan palmer i will be extremely disappointed because that kid will never play a down of nfl football at QB. he was awful against mop ups for jacksonville, very very unimpressed and i hope nobody argues with me. we can find a talent equal too or greater in the 7th round next year or even in rookie free agents next year, let him go!

on another hand i also think reed doughty is gonna make the team over jimoh because the skins are invested in him after last year. he has also shown pretty well too. we would be crazy to put westbrook on the practice squad, he gets toasted frequently and just looks like he cant compete with nfl athletes. i was rooting for him though because he was a fellow division 3 player. how about ryan hoag on the practice squad? hes played good. i like trucks and sinclar but its a numbers game and i dont think either will make the team unless the redskins cut khary campbell which very well could happen since hb blades has shown so well.

practice squad is as follows: ryan hoag, leigh torrence, alex buzbee, dallas sartz, pete schmitt (will be resigned), marcus mason, stephon heyer (that may shock you), lorenzo alexander (although i really see him making the 53 man roster).

holcknowsbest 09-01-2007 08:56 AM

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70 Chip as always a good solid point, i like you roooster baby.

2BIG2BSKINNY 09-01-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;346073]Thrash returns kicks...he'll be back[/quote]

The Skins are thin at wide reciever and I would not want to cut that position making it even thinner...but what would 2BIG2BSKINNY know about thin!

skinsfan_nn 09-01-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Who stays: Find out today.
Who goes: Find out today.

There you have it sport fans, simple as that.

SUNRA 09-01-2007 10:50 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;346073]Thrash returns kicks...he'll be back[/QUOTE]

You don't think Eubanks showed enough during the preseason?

SUNRA 09-01-2007 10:55 AM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[QUOTE=jrocx69;346087]wow sunra, we cut our only long snapper?????? lol. very interesting[/QUOTE]

lol. That is funny.

LaRon + Sean = Hell 4 U 09-01-2007 03:15 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[QUOTE]My final roster:

QB 1. Jason Campbell
2. Mark Brunell
3. Todd Collins

RB 4. Clinton Portis
5. Ladell Betts
6. Rock Cartwright

FB 7. Mike Sellers
8. Mr. Beasley

TE 9. Christopher Cooley
10. Todd Yoder

OL 11. Jon Jansen
12. Randy Thomas
13. Casey Rabach
14. Petey Kendall
15. Chris Samuels
16. Todd Wade
17 Mike Pucillo
18 Stephon Heyer
19 The Great Fabini

WR 20. Santana Moss
21. Antione Randle-El
22. Brandon Lloyd
23. James Thrash
24. Ryan Hoag

DL 25. Andre Carter
26. Cornelius Grifin
27. Kedrick Golsten
28. Philip Daniels
29. Renaldo Wynn
30. Anthony Montgomery
31. Demetric Evans
32. Lorenzo Alexander
33. Chris Wilson

LB 34. Marcus Washington
35. London Fletcher
36. Rockford Mcintosh
37. Randell Godfrey
38. H.B Blades
39. Khari Campbell
40. Dallas Sartz

CB 41. Sean Springs
42. Carlos Rogers
43 . Fred Smoot
44. David Macklin
45. Ade Jimoh

Safety 46. Sean Taylor
47. Laron Landry
48. Peer-Son Pray-Low
49. Omar Stoutmire
50. Reed Doughty

LS 51. Ethan Allbright

K 52. Sean Suisham
P 53. Derrick Frost


That's just off the top of my head.......

They can put whoever they want on the practice squad. I'm not looking at the roster at this hour of the night.[/QUOTE]

Pretty good list everyone but Ryan Hoag I'm convinced about

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 04:21 PM

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any word yet?

mooby 09-01-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
yeah all the rosters in the NFL should be down by 53 by now. I've been looking but I haven't found anything yet, other than a J-La blog post saying he thinks so and so has been cut.

SFREDSKIN 09-01-2007 04:27 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
Renaldo Wynn just got the axe

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 04:30 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;346236]Renaldo Wynn just got the axe[/quote]

how do you know

SFREDSKIN 09-01-2007 04:33 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
[QUOTE=dall-assblows;346237]how do you know[/QUOTE]

Mr. Canfora's blog

mooby 09-01-2007 04:34 PM

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JLC's blog on the WaPo website. He just said he talked to Renaldo and Renaldo told him he got the axe. I'm saddened by this news but I understand that it's the part of the business nobody likes but has to get done. He was a leader in the locker room for these past few years and another one of those truly nice guys you always wanted to see succeed. I really hope him and Salave'a find another franchise to sign with, both are some of the nicest guys in this league and I would hate to see them end their careers on this note.

dall-assblows 09-01-2007 04:41 PM

Re: Who Stays, Who Goes?
 
its too bad


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