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he said the skins would finish last in the nfc east this year cause they had "made no real changes on Defense."he went on to kiss the asses of wade phillips and donovan mcnab,and said the poke and eagles would be super bowl contenders.i can't friggin' believe this prick was ever a redskin.let's start a petition to get his name removed from the roster of past redskins!!!!i wish i knew where the asshole live so i could go take a dump on his GD doorstep!

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He was a great "hog" back in the day, but he should stick to his soap opera gig and leave ESPN behind. I hate that he is an "expert." He'd sound a little more intelligent if he didn't preface every comment with, "there's no question.."

Oh, what the hell does jolly stomped mean?

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;347093]he said the skins would finish last in the nfc east this year cause they had "made no real changes on Defense."he went on to kiss the asses of wade phillips and donovan mcnab,and said the poke and eagles would be super bowl contenders.i can't friggin' believe this prick was ever a redskin.let's start a petition to get his name removed from the roster of past redskins!!!!i wish i knew where the asshole live so i could go take a dump on his GD doorstep![/QUOTE]

So because he's not a homer like everyone else on ESPN, he doesn't know what he's talking about? A lot of people are saying the Skins will do well, some people aren't. Right now, predictions don't matter. I'm so sick of the feeling on this board that the Skins don't get respect. What is there to respect? 5-11 or one playoff appearance since 2000?

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Yeah that guy totally ripped his old coach and team. Screw him. He never has any love for us. Must be some old rift with the team when he left. Our D is much improved over last year. As far as bringing no players on D, He's an idiot and has not watched a down of Redskins Football in the Preseason.

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he will eat his words as they are layed out on a table cloth made of Landry and Fletcher jerseys

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;347097]Yeah that guy totally ripped his old coach and team. Screw him. He never has any love for us. Must be some old rift with the team when he left. Our D is much improved over last year. As far as bringing no players on D, He's an idiot and has not watched a down of Redskins Football in the Preseason.[/quote]

He did? when?
I've never heard Sclereth say anything bad about his days w/the skins, he always sounds positive w/the memories. I've also heard him speak well of the current skins in spite of our failings. e.g., He predicted the 04 skins would go 9-7.

I chalk these comments up to him not doing his homework if in fact he said what he did about the d, but overall I can't blame anyone for going w/the pokes & iggles over us at this point. If he picked the g men, he really is out on a limb.

It's really time for some football!

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;347093]he said the skins would finish last in the nfc east this year cause they had "made no real changes on Defense."he went on to kiss the asses of wade phillips and donovan mcnab,and said the poke and eagles would be super bowl contenders.i can't friggin' believe this prick was ever a redskin.let's start a petition to get his name removed from the roster of past redskins!!!!i wish i knew where the asshole live so i could go take a dump on his GD doorstep![/QUOTE]

I would also like to know what jolly stomped is.... Im not even going to take a shot on that one because I may be way off

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i am stepping out on a ledge and saying REDSKINS DEFENSE WILL BE #1




Mark my words

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I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.

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What a joke.....Every year Espn jumps on the Eagles band wagon.

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[QUOTE=jdlea;347096]So because he's not a homer like everyone else on ESPN, he doesn't know what he's talking about? A lot of people are saying the Skins will do well, some people aren't. Right now, predictions don't matter. I'm so sick of the feeling on this board that the Skins don't get respect. What is there to respect? 5-11 or one playoff appearance since 2000?[/QUOTE]

But it's fun to get offended and call people out!

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welcome karo711

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welcome karo, and who really gives a rats ass what old stinky thinks?

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when are you people going to open your eyes and see that a team that has had losing records for 8 of 10 years does not deserve to have the credit you think they deserve. Out of four teams in our division, we are the only ones that did NOT make the playoffs. And might I remind you all it took was an 8-8 record to make it!! Stop being ignorant to reality. We have been mediocore at best for the better part of a decade(and that is being complimentary)

what do predictions mean anyway? absolutely nothing. who cares what one person says over the next guy? funny how when someone says we will be 9-7 and in the playoff hunt how you all jump on him saying he knows football and "our" team. when in reality, the people who have played and generally knows what it takes and knows the ins and outs generally have been pretty dead on when it comes to our record. (ie, the football players)

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[quote=70Chip;347110]I don't get the fascination with the Eagles. They are yesterday's news. I can understand making a case for Dallas, but Philly is so obviously on the brink of a total collapse that it boggles the mind to see them ranked so highly.

Jim Johnson is a great defensive mind, but everyone has their limits. They will give up big yards this year. Reid is pre-occupied and embarrassed and McNabb will continue to have a completion percentage in the 50s. I can't wait for the Pam Oliver interview though.

As for Stink, he considers himself a Bronco. Good for him. He is dead to me. He has apparently taken Salisbury as his mentor and the results are predictable: hideously bad television. The Nascar coverage rules, though.[/quote]

dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?

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[quote=karo711;347116]What a joke.....Every year Espn jumps on the Eagles band wagon.[/quote]




seriously, what do you expect, they win the division and we stink it up every year.

in order to get respect in this league we have to win games plain and simple. jason campbell looking good in practice isnt going to convince anylists... ever.

i dont mind that they predict us to do so bad every year, i just wish that they werent always right.

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I like Mark Schlereth. I think he's one of the best even if I don't agree with his take on the Skins. What was his reason for predicting the skins would finish last? He is usually pretty good about explaining the reasons behind his position.

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i met and spoke with ron jaws at a local golf course he owns that my friends father also owns... he's on the skins band-wagon to contend for the division...

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[QUOTE=Meks;347181]i met and spoke with ron jaws at a local golf course he owns that my friends father also owns... he's on the skins band-wagon to contend for the division...[/QUOTE]

That's a first!

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[QUOTE=jdlea;347096]So because he's not a homer like everyone else on ESPN, he doesn't know what he's talking about? A lot of people are saying the Skins will do well, some people aren't. Right now, predictions don't matter. I'm so sick of the feeling on this board that the Skins don't get respect. What is there to respect? 5-11 or one playoff appearance since 2000?[/QUOTE]

Actually, Schlereth is an incredible homer. The only thing is, his most recent "home" was in Denver. He occasionally says nice things about the Skins, but the man bleeds Broncos. I'll bet his breath smells a little Shanahan-y, if you get my drift.

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It is okay when the critisim is fair but this sounds uninformed.

If the d-line age and injuries were a problem then we have adressed that by getting younger and have youth in depth.

The LB corp who missed so many takles has been overhauled with London Fletcher and Rocky McIntosh replacing the ineffective Marshell and Holdman and there is a new possition coach...

S : right up untill the redskins called him at No6 Landry was touted as the best defensive player in the draft ...make of that what you will....but now Taylor can take up his true role of FS insted of having to play a hybrid role which should help him to stop thinking he has to rush into run support and get eaten by playfakes ...plus PP is back to spell as a starter if needs be .

CB : The starters are the same but the nickle and dime back are much improved

Yes we could have done more but not without blowing up the D and starting again ...

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Fox Sports' Schein just gave us a 5-11 nod also. What is the big deal guys? Most preseason rags have us finshing 3rd in our division at best. No biggie anyway. The Dolphins will be a good indicator on how the season will go.

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[quote=dall-assblows;347109]i am stepping out on a ledge and saying REDSKINS DEFENSE WILL BE #1




Mark my words[/quote]
Wow, from 31st. to 1st.? Man you are loving some Redskin kool-aide aren't you? If that happens, I'll drink to that.

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[quote=BrudLee;347214]Actually, Schlereth is an incredible homer. The only thing is, his most recent "home" was in Denver. He occasionally says nice things about the Skins, but the man bleeds Broncos. I'll bet his breath smells a little Shanahan-y, if you get my drift.[/quote]
True that. This guy has Shanahans' jock all kinds of balls deep.

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Schlerth had art monk's back when he got nixed by the hall fame...called them a disgrace etc. Always liked him because of that so I couldnt care less about his predictions

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[quote=chrisl4064;347167]seriously, what do you expect, they win the division and we stink it up every year.

in order to get respect in this league we have to win games plain and simple. jason campbell looking good in practice isnt going to convince anylists... ever.

i dont mind that they predict us to do so bad every year, i just wish that they werent always right.[/quote]


Unfortunately you are right on with that one. The MSM shows no love for the Skins, but for the most part they are dead on, so until proven otherwise I don't see why we even bother bitching at all. Just cheer the Skins on and hope they stay healthy and surprise folks. We can be a very solid football team or just average. The defense alone isn't going to win games for us. Our D all around in 2005 was solid, this season we have no depth in the DB at all. If one guy goes down we might be screwed.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;347228]Unfortunately you are right on with that one. The MSM shows no love for the Skins, but for the most part they are dead on, so until proven otherwise I don't see why we even bother bitching at all. Just cheer the Skins on and hope they stay healthy and surprise folks. We can be a very solid football team or just average. The defense alone isn't going to win games for us. Our D all around in 2005 was solid, this season we have no depth in the DB at all. If one guy goes down we might be screwed.[/quote]
Amen guys. But if there is a position we are deep at, it is DB. I think you meant to say D-line.

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[quote=#56fanatic;347157]dont get the fascination of the Eagles? yesterdays news? are you watching football?? 4 straight NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance, they have key people go down(McNabb, westbrook, TO(in the superbowl year) kerse, trotter and yet they still go deep in the playoffs.

Jim Johnson consistantly has a top notch D that forces turnovers and gets points off of those turnovers. McNabb prior to being hurt last season and previous was having pretty damn good years and has multiple pro bowls under his belt.

As far as who he considers himself to be, so what! he was a Bronco last, played there longer(i think) won a couple of bowls there i believe, so why not. do you think Champ would want to be remembered as a Skin or Bronco?[/quote]

I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.

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[quote=70Chip;347252]I agree. So what. Like I said, he's dead to me.

As for the Eagles, I sincerely believe they are at the end of the line. Good coaches can stitch to gether a few wins with inferior players for a while, but not forever. As for McNabb, the fact that Jeff Garcia was able to perform better than him in the offense last year is indicative of how average he actually is. All the talk was of his brilliant resurgence and yet his completion percentage was 54% - the same as Campbell's. Also, Trotter going down any time in the last four years would be the best thing that could happen to a defense. He was a liability for them 75% of the time.

They've had multiple opportunities to win the big games and they always fail because they aren't good enough. McNabb isn't good enough. When they crash, they will crash in a big way and I say it's this year.[/quote]I agree with you on McNabb:overrated due to great help from his receivers (evidenced by insanely high YAC the last three years), but even with all the Westbrook in the world, he should still get some credit for always finding the guy in space. After all, that is the same pro-Brunell argument that I firmly believe applies to all players: although consistent YAC is mostly the duty of the WR, some QBs (like Brunell and McNabb among others) are inherently better at getting the ball into open space. However, I think when push comes to shove, I can name 10 better passers in the NFL than McNabb.

The projections rate the Eagles passing game out really high, and I believe that will hurt them this year. That defense is no where near what it once was, and the passing game is easy to overrate. With that said, they are still the team to beat in the NFC and Westbrook is the best football player (at any position) in the NFC.

We are not a better team than the Eagles right now. There is no question. Luckily for us, the crowned NFC East champion is not measured by the best team. It's measured by wins. So if we can get one more win than the guys up the road, we win the division.

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[quote=GTripp0012;347269]I agree with you on McNabb:overrated due to great help from his receivers (evidenced by insanely high YAC the last three years), but even with all the Westbrook in the world, he should still get some credit for always finding the guy in space. After all, that is the same pro-Brunell argument that I firmly believe applies to all players: although consistent YAC is mostly the duty of the WR, some QBs (like Brunell and McNabb among others) are inherently better at getting the ball into open space. However, I think when push comes to shove, I can name 10 better passers in the NFL than McNabb.

The projections rate the Eagles passing game out really high, and I believe that will hurt them this year. That defense is no where near what it once was, and the passing game is easy to overrate. With that said, they are still the team to beat in the NFC and Westbrook is the best football player (at any position) in the NFC.

We are not a better team than the Eagles right now. There is no question. Luckily for us, the crowned NFC East champion is not measured by the best team. It's measured by wins. So if we can get one more win than the guys up the road, we win the division.[/quote]


Westbrooke is fantastic. No argument there.

In watching them a couple times this year, though, it is difficult for me to figure out how, J.J., as brilliant as he is, is going to be able to stop the run. I just don't see it. And I think a team that can't stop the run is a team that can't win.

It seems like there would be one person in the press willing to go out on a limb and say, you know what the Eagles have lost something here. It's lame to say "But the Eagles have done this and that for so long." Then just show us last years standings. Don't pretend you're making a prediction when you're just recapping last year. It's a little too safe.

Take the case of N.O. They're all behind the Saints this year. A year too late. I agree, the Saints are a good club, but we already know that. I want someone to tell me who this years Saints are. The fact is they have no idea. Just like they have no idea that the Eagles are going to lose this season.

Also, I think Phillys YAC yards are high because of all the screens. Imagine Donovan's completion % if he were in an offense that isn't based almost entirely around screen passes.

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[quote=redskinsfanatic;347093]he said the skins would finish last in the nfc east this year cause they had "made no real changes on Defense."he went on to kiss the asses of wade phillips and donovan mcnab,and said the poke and eagles would be super bowl contenders.i can't friggin' believe this prick was ever a redskin.let's start a petition to get his name removed from the roster of past redskins!!!!i wish i knew where the asshole live so i could go take a dump on his GD doorstep![/quote]

Dude chill. Remember we were 5-11 last year. He is paid to give his opinion. We have more question marks than Dallas and Philly.

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you know maybe, just maybe, he is using reverse pyschology to help his beloved redskins.

you never know...

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I don't really care but in all honesty he apparently didn't do any due dilligence before making his comments. To say we haven't made any changes on defense is just plain uninformed.

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By the way what does jolly stomped mean? I have an idea, but I need clarification. Just sounds retarded.

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[quote=4mrusmc;347231]Amen guys. But if there is a position we are deep at, it is DB. I think you meant to say D-line.[/quote]

I don't think we are all that deep at DB from what I had seen during the preseason. I am focusing on our CBs for the most part. WE have 3 really good CB's, but the best of the lot(Springs) is injury prone, Smoot is not the stud we drafted several years ago(sucked at Minnesota for the most part), and Rogers is improving steadily but still can get beat. Losing Springs for a few weeks is likely, but what if Smoot or Rogers sprains an ankle during the same time frame? We are screwed. DL is not much of a concern for me. It has been so bad for so long that you just have to live with the fact that it sucks.

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I do not have a problem with Stink's comments in that the Eagles and the Cowgirls are the two best teams in the division. I do take exception to two things he said:

1) That the Giants will finish better than the 'Skins this year.
2) That McNabb will be healthy all year. I would love to know on what basis he formed that opinion; Donovan's recent past history would certainly seem to indicate that he will be lucky to play in more than 10 or 11 games this year.

In regards to predictions overall:

If I remember correctly, before last year the MSM was all over the Skins's collective nuts and talking about how great their off-season acquisitions were and how good they would be. I believe during that stupid ESPN rate the whole NFL by position group and overall team things, they had the 'Skins being the 3rd the best team in the NFL. Obviously they were wrong. These guys make predictions to feed our country's insatiable appetite for everything NFL.

Now going completely against what I just said, both Jaws, who watches more film than any analyst and Football Prospectus, which uses a ton of statical analysis, predicted a good year for the 'Skins. So I take that as a good sign.

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id also like to know what jolly stomped is...if its good..ill use it!

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[quote=Rock Your Face;347325]I do not have a problem with Stink's comments in that the Eagles and the Cowgirls are the two best teams in the division. I do take exception to two things he said:

1) That the Giants will finish better than the 'Skins this year.
2) That McNabb will be healthy all year. I would love to know on what basis he formed that opinion; Donovan's recent past history would certainly seem to indicate that he will be lucky to play in more than 10 or 11 games this year.

In regards to predictions overall:

If I remember correctly, before last year the MSM was all over the Skins's collective nuts and talking about how great their off-season acquisitions were and how good they would be. I believe during that stupid ESPN rate the whole NFL by position group and overall team things, they had the 'Skins being the 3rd the best team in the NFL. Obviously they were wrong. These guys make predictions to feed our country's insatiable appetite for everything NFL.

Now going completely against what I just said, both Jaws, who watches more film than any analyst and Football Prospectus, which uses a ton of statical analysis, predicted a good year for the 'Skins. So I take that as a good sign.[/quote]

Regarding McNabb, he sure looked healthy in the pre season games. Plus according to Reid, McNabb had on of his best camps. Now of course he could get hurt at anytime like anyone else, but I think he is close to 100%.

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don't forget how Culpepper looked last preseason. he looked like nothing was wrong. and we all know how that ended up. Mcnabb had the same injury

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[quote=dmek25;347344]don't forget how Culpepper looked last preseason. he looked like nothing was wrong. and we all know how that ended up. Mcnabb had the same injury[/quote]I haven't watched the Eagles much this preseason but a coworker is a HUGE Eagles fan and even he said McNabb isn't the same. He told me he was still favoring his injured leg bigtime. Anytime a defender got close to his leg he was hopping on one foot. Like I said, I havent watched much of them this preseason so take it for what its worth.