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gabe1984 09-23-2007 08:17 PM

Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Is he really that bad that he's only on the field for like four plays a game. It really pains me to see the James Thrash (who I happen to like as a person and a special teams guy) is our freakin third wide receiver. I kept hearing that Lloyd put all this work in during the off season, why the hell don't they involve him in the offense then. If he's that bad, they should just cut his stupid ass and then go to Carlos Rodgers and tell him that if he doesn't start playing like a first round draft pick he's gonna be next. In fact, both of those guys should go back to their home on Bum Island.

SFREDSKIN 09-23-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Laughing all the way to the bank!!

skinsfan69 09-23-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[quote=gabe1984;356156]Is he really that bad that he's only on the field for like four plays a game. It really pains me to see the James Thrash (who I happen to like as a person and a special teams guy) is our freakin third wide receiver. I kept hearing that Lloyd put all this work in during the off season, why the hell don't they involve him in the offense then. If he's that bad, they should just cut his stupid ass and then go to Carlos Rodgers and tell him that if he doesn't start playing like a first round draft pick he's gonna be next. In fact, both of those guys should go back to their home on Bum Island.[/quote]

Rogers was not all that bad today. But I'm with you on Lloyd. I didn't see him on the field at all. Why they are not playing him is kind of ridicules. I think once Caldwell is ready he'll be on the field as our 3rd wr.

kdogg3270 09-23-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Brandon Lloyd is getting the archuleta treatment..i think he's done in DC..the skins do shady stuff like that..pretty soon he'll be inactive...mark my words.

gabe1984 09-23-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=kdogg3270;356176]Brandon Lloyd is getting the archuleta treatment..i think he's done in DC..the skins do shady stuff like that..pretty soon he'll be inactive...mark my words.[/QUOTE]

I don't doubt you kdogg, I don't doubt you.

cpayne5 09-23-2007 08:44 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[IMG]http://www.skinsfan.us/skins/doghouse.jpg[/IMG]

RobH4413 09-23-2007 09:13 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Did this really need an entire new thread?

Brandon Lloyd is bad, so he doesn't play.

Brandon Lloyd is expensive, so he isn't cut.

I'm not sure that there is anything left to talk about with regards to him.

To each his own.

pdid5000 09-23-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
3rd and a 4th for him - what a ripoff!!

MTK 09-23-2007 11:08 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Who the hell cares about Lloyd??

skinsguy 09-23-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Hey was on the bench. Exactly where he should be.

Gmanc711 09-23-2007 11:13 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=RobH4413;356228]Did this really need an entire new thread?

Brandon Lloyd is bad, so he doesn't play.

Brandon Lloyd is expensive, so he isn't cut.

I'm not sure that there is anything left to talk about with regards to him.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]


Basically, you can't put it any clearer than this.....This is exactly what should be said about B. Lloyd in every conversation concerning him....

dgack 09-24-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[quote=kdogg3270;356176]Brandon Lloyd is getting the archuleta treatment..[/quote]

Obviously. Speaking of which, anybody notice that Arch Deluxe was all over the place last night for the Bears? Not saying this will happen with Lloyd, because it's pretty obvious he's not really that good of a player, but still...

dgack 09-24-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Never mind, it appears I stopped watching the Dallas-Chicago trainwreck right after Arch made his only good play of the evening ;)

SkinsFanSince91 09-24-2007 10:54 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=gabe1984;356156]Is he really that bad that he's only on the field for like four plays a game. It really pains me to see the James Thrash (who I happen to like as a person and a special teams guy) is our freakin third wide receiver. I kept hearing that Lloyd put all this work in during the off season, why the hell don't they involve him in the offense then. If he's that bad, they should just cut his stupid ass and then go to Carlos Rodgers and tell him that if he doesn't start playing like a first round draft pick he's gonna be next. In fact, both of those guys should go back to their home on Bum Island.[/QUOTE]

COuldnt agree with you more!

He should have at least made that tackle on Plaxico that tied the game for them! He is playijn like some ass!

Blue Star 09-24-2007 07:51 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
this is classic LOL

kdogg3270 09-24-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=Blue Star;356924]this is classic LOL[/QUOTE]

I'll bet the dallas forums were like this the past 2 years following skins/cowboys games, lol...

jsarno 09-24-2007 11:50 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Well, I need to make a public apology here...I was dead wrong about Lloyd. I thought for sure he was gonna break out this year...wow was I wrong.
I am officially on the Lloyd sucks bandwagon and time to get his ass out of town.

SFREDSKIN 09-25-2007 12:00 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Maybe he'll have a reverse vision unlike Sean Gilbert and instead of taking the money, he'll return it. Hell, give me a 60th of his salary and I'll suit up.

jsarno 09-25-2007 12:03 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;357020]Maybe he'll have a reverse vision unlike Sean Gilbert and instead of taking the money, he'll return it. Hell, give me a 60th of his salary and I'll suit up.[/QUOTE]

Yeah right...he's only in this for the money, he has no love of the game.

dgack 09-25-2007 12:15 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Can he be forced to suit up and be a special teams coverage player? I'd like to see him at least take some hits for all that dough...

Lady Brave 09-25-2007 12:16 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Here's an article from last week on Lloyd.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/16/AR2007091601660.html?sub=AR]washingtonpost.com[/url]

I got a chuckle or two out of it. Especially reading quotes like these...

"My day will come where I'll have that kind of game," Lloyd said of Randle El's performance last week. "And I'll be the hot guy and, boom, they'll keep feeding me, keep feeding me."

"I know we're close in age, but I want to mature into that kind of guy," Lloyd said. "When I'm mature, I want to be secure and confident like him. As a person. He's one of those guys, you look at, like, 'I want to try to be like him.' Suddenly, Lloyd bursts out laughing. "And then I think, 'Yeah, I'll start next year.' "

dgack 09-25-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
I know I speak for all of Redskin Nation when I say, I'm glad Brandon is having such a good time after that loss. Good to know he understands his role and how he can help the team.

SmootSmack 09-25-2007 12:27 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=dgack;357037]I know I speak for all of Redskin Nation when I say, I'm glad Brandon is having such a good time after that loss. Good to know he understands his role and how he can help the team.[/QUOTE]

What did he say? I must have missed it

dgack 09-25-2007 01:05 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Just referring to how he wants to be mature and a leader like ARE, and then chuckles and says, "nah, I'll start next year".

It's all a big joke to this guy.

SmootSmack 09-25-2007 01:30 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=dgack;357042]Just referring to how he wants to be mature and a leader like ARE, and then chuckles and says, "nah, I'll start next year".

It's all a big joke to this guy.[/QUOTE]

Well, he said that after a win but yeah

SouperMeister 09-25-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[quote=Mattyk72;356297]Who the hell cares about Lloyd??[/quote]It's less about us caring for Lloyd and more about us being pissed that Gibbs gave up a 3rd and a 4th for this stiff. It isn't like his bad attitude wasn't common knowledge - I recall reading stuff about Lloyd pissing off teammates and coaches in San Fran. I would have preferred trading those picks and taking a chance on Randy Moss and his drama. Seems to have worked out OK for the Pats, and they only gave up a 4th.

firstdown 09-25-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Not sure of the local show but they had a guy on who either is with the 49er's or was with the 49er's when the trade was made. He said after the deal was done they just sat back and laughed as they knew that they just got one over big time on us. He said that they thought it was kind of a joke that they could even think of getting a few picks in the deal but they did and then to top it off we offer him that new big deal.

jsarno 09-25-2007 05:48 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=SouperMeister;357290]It's less about us caring for Lloyd and more about us being pissed that Gibbs gave up a 3rd and a 4th for this stiff. It isn't like his bad attitude wasn't common knowledge - I recall reading stuff about Lloyd pissing off teammates and coaches in San Fran. I would have preferred trading those picks and taking a chance on Randy Moss and his drama. Seems to have worked out OK for the Pats, and they only gave up a 4th.[/QUOTE]

I really think the entire NFL was shocked at how little the Patriots gave up for Moss. Makes you wonder if there was some collusion going on. I'm sure we would have gladly gave up more.

holcknowsbest 09-25-2007 06:09 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
i hate the investment in him, but i will say this. they never involve him...at all. it has to be something he does wrong in practice or something. i mean really we dont need three recievers anyways because we throw the ball maybe 25-30 times. complete maybe 15-20 so that doesnt leave a lot of balls to catch when you got portis, moss, randle el, cooley, betts, and sellers. still i think he could make a play downfield for us, so long as he doesnt quit on his route ala dolphins game. still hate we gave up so much and this guy has done anything for us, he needs someone to call him out, and if he reacts the wrong way, then he gets cut so he doesnt become a cancer.

kdogg3270 09-25-2007 07:12 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
it's pretty obvious that the staff doesnt like him...i mean, to be honest, how can we say he sucks ( i hear just about everybody saying this) when we don't even get to see him play.. the team calls ONE pass play to him every couple of games..It does'nt result in a completion and then we dont see him again..if he was'nt in on the 4 receiver sets against the giants, with caldwell and bodiford inactive, then who was? It must have been Cooley split out wide.

mooby 09-25-2007 07:40 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
yeah I saw when we had 4 wide that Cooley was out there, so he's not seeing any playing time at all. That picture Cpayne posted illustrates it perfectly, he's not leaving soon so he's just gonna be in the doghouse all season. I wouldn't be suprised if he didn't catch a single pass all season.

skinsfan_nn 09-25-2007 07:43 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
Well I think he's still ridin pine where he belongs.......sorry bastard! Until the end of the year....THEN GOOD BYE, THANKS FOR NOTHING.

SmootSmack 09-25-2007 11:11 PM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=SouperMeister;357290]It's less about us caring for Lloyd and more about us being pissed that Gibbs gave up a 3rd and a 4th for this stiff. It isn't like his bad attitude wasn't common knowledge - I recall reading stuff about Lloyd pissing off teammates and coaches in San Fran. I would have preferred trading those picks and taking a chance on Randy Moss and his drama. Seems to have worked out OK for the Pats, and they only gave up a 4th.[/QUOTE]

I think they'd be more inclined to put up with his attitude if he knew what to do out on the field. Everything I've heard though says that he insisted on working out on his own this summer. That he needed to do things his way and for the coaches to just trust him. But he came back not knowing the playbook at all.

Lousy trade, no question about it

skinsfan69 09-26-2007 01:01 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;357379]I think they'd be more inclined to put up with his attitude if he knew what to do out on the field. Everything I've heard though says that he insisted on working out on his own this summer. That he needed to do things his way and for the coaches to just trust him. But he came back not knowing the playbook at all.

Lousy trade, no question about it[/quote]

But how can he not know the playbook?? It's his 2nd year in the offense? He should know it like the back of his hand.

If I'm not mistaken, this offense is complicated for the QB, but not the Wr's. Basically he has 9 routes he has to learn and that's it. I'm sure there are adjustments and stuff but c'mon! I remember Joe T. and Al S. saying how easy it was for the WR's. So it's hard for me to believe that Lloyd does not know the playbook. Is that a rumor that's flying around?

jsarno 09-26-2007 01:08 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;357379]

Lousy trade, no question about it[/QUOTE]

That about says it all.

(you sound a little like Mark Schlereth there) :D

SmootSmack 09-26-2007 01:14 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;357394]But how can he not know the playbook?? It's his 2nd year in the offense? He should know it like the back of his hand.

If I'm not mistaken, this offense is complicated for the QB, but not the Wr's. Basically he has 9 routes he has to learn and that's it. I'm sure there are adjustments and stuff but c'mon! I remember Joe T. and Al S. saying how easy it was for the WR's. So it's hard for me to believe that Lloyd does not know the playbook. Is that a rumor that's flying around?[/QUOTE]

Behind the scenes, yeah that's the rumor. I mean I've heard it from enough reliable people that I would call it more than just a "rumor"

Though I will say that I've had a couple of people tell me that it's not so much that he doesn't know the playbook but that he refuses to abide by it. He believes his talent (and all these people insist that talentwise Lloyd is probably our best wide receiver) is what should dicate how we use him and the plays should conform to him, not vice-versa.

Bottom line is he can't or won't do what's asked. Everyone else is

jsarno 09-26-2007 01:23 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;357400]Behind the scenes, yeah that's the rumor. I mean I've heard it from enough reliable people that I would call it more than just a "rumor"

Though I will say that I've had a couple of people tell me that it's not so much that he doesn't know the playbook but that he refuses to abide by it. He believes his talent (and all these people insist that talentwise Lloyd is probably our best wide receiver) is what should dicate how we use him and the plays should conform to him, not vice-versa.

Bottom line is he can't or won't do what's asked. Everyone else is[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a cancer to me.

skinsfan69 09-26-2007 01:26 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[quote=SmootSmack;357400]Behind the scenes, yeah that's the rumor. I mean I've heard it from enough reliable people that I would call it more than just a "rumor"

Though I will say that I've had a couple of people tell me that it's not so much that he doesn't know the playbook but that he refuses to abide by it. He believes his talent (and all these people insist that talentwise Lloyd is probably our best wide receiver) is what should dicate how we use him and the plays should conform to him, not vice-versa.

Bottom line is he can't or won't do what's asked. Everyone else is[/quote]

Well if that's the case then he needs to go. Bring in Caldwell!

SmootSmack 09-26-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;357404]Well if that's the case then he needs to go. Bring in Caldwell![/QUOTE]

I'd be surprised if he's not active by the Lions game. He should be ready to play by then.

Cowell 09-26-2007 09:28 AM

Re: Where the Hell is Brandon Lloyd?!
 
I hope Caldwell is ready to play. I think he could be a big help to the offense. I'm not expecting him to put up big numbers but he can be a quick slant route or 3rd down threat.


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