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Haha. I stole Smooty's sig. Sorry! :)

But I gotta admit I am a pretty panicked fan. In the fact that I am a little worried about our aggressiveness/passiveness and playcalling. But I'm no coach so I'll assume that they'll adjust and try to work through things as weeks continue. Call me a dumb, complacent fan but if I knew what I was talking about, I'd apply for the coaching position (But I'm a female so I guess that automatically counts me out anyway)

But there are some people out there going nutso like the season's over. 1 loss doesn't mean anything. Like "ohhhhh, my God, this team suuucks." And I'm like what? 3 games and you wanna say our season is over?

Of course it was an ugly loss but, whatever. No biggie. The Giants had a lot riding on that game and straight up outplayed us in the second half. End of story.

So for all the optimistic fans and people who nearly shat a brick when they saw the f Gibbs thread, I thought I'd start a little thread where everyone can stay positive (or at least attempt to)

Keep ya heads up people! Skins rooool. :D

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I agree. I also think this should be in the locker room. It makes a nice counter thread to all the bitching ones right now.

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Those are the same fans who renounced their love of the Redskins in 2005 after the San Diego game, only to pop up late in the season and say how they knew all along that Gibbs was going to pull things together. They're sort of like those women whose love of men is contingent on how much money is in their pockets at any given point in time....I can them fan-whores.

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I love this thread.

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this is for all the people that see the glass half full. I'm one of them. good thread

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Here's the thing I don't get about some Redskins fans. Do they not realize what team they're fans of? Seriously, this team is one whose entire history is primarily made up of "moments". Consistency has always, ALWAYS been a problem for us and I've watched them piss away more wins in my 25 years of being a fan than I can count. It doesn't matter though. I love this team no matter what. I'm a homer and proud of it.

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It's actually pretty funny at this point to check out extremeskins--there are so many wild panicked threads calling for Gibbs, Saunders, whoever, to be fired.

My god, we're 2-1. Fire Gibbs? Wow.

People gotta relax a bit.

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[quote=Lady Brave;356984]Here's the thing I don't get about some Redskins fans. Do they not realize what team they're fans of? Seriously, this team is one whose entire history is primarily made up of "moments". Consistency has always, ALWAYS been a problem for us and I've watched them piss away more wins in my 25 years of being a fan than I can count. It doesn't matter though. I love this team no matter what. I'm a homer and proud of it.[/quote]

Well I'm not old enough to be a fan for 25 years. :P But I have been a fan since I was born. And I am such a homer. Even when they lose, I still wanna stand up for the team. This girl in class today (Whos a Ravens fan) was like, "The Skins lost yesterday. I was happy."

It took all my will not to stand up and sock her in the mouth. Haha. But I hate it when people crap on my team. :(

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[QUOTE=Lady Brave;356966]I agree. I also think this should be in the locker room. It makes a nice counter thread to all the bitching ones right now.[/QUOTE]

Moving it now :)

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i dont see nothing wrong with calling like it is, and so far our wins were ugly and our loss was even more ugly. play-calling has definitely been suspect... im at the bar watching and i was screaming for a bootleg on third and fourth downs. is that just not in our short yardage playbook? especially on the goal line playbook?? with a qb of campbell's athleticism i think you have to have that play and use it. its sets up from the run before, its sets up a pass on the rollout and a run for the score it TE or FB covered on the rollout. Bootleg!

other than that im happy to be where we are at as of now, just would like some consistency in our offense. our d did really well barring the repeated 3 and outs in the second half

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It's funny how everyone thinks the play that wasn't called is always the best one.

We run a bootleg and fail to convert, suddenly we'd hear "Why the hell didn't we pound the ball in?"

The problem with calling it like it is, is that most people don't know what it is. They just get a thrill out of second-guessing.

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I'm not panicing at all. I know we have a good team. I am pissed about the fact we lost to the giants, but that in no way means I am in panic mode.
I am also pissed that (regardless of the way some people saw a different game) we played extremely conservative in the second half. Hopefully the coaching staff will also see the error of their ways and make adjustments.
I guess we'll find out vs the Packers.
We still have a good team, and have good talent. I also look at it like this (now that I am calmed down), if before the season started, someone said we would be 2-1 at the bye week, we'd all take it. Every last one of us. We are where we should be, and we're in good shape.

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[quote=JWsleep;356986]It's actually pretty funny at this point to check out extremeskins--there are so many wild panicked threads calling for Gibbs, Saunders, whoever, to be fired.

My god, we're 2-1. Fire Gibbs? Wow.

People gotta relax a bit.[/quote]


Fired? I actually laughed out loud at that! Skins fans are..................amazing

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It's been interesting to see how overblown the reaction has been to this game. We failed to convert practically any third downs in the second half, while conversely failing to stop practically any on the other side of the ball, and people suddenly want to blame the scheme?

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Bah jooo positive people!! fire Gibbs - look at how well San Diego is doing after getting rid of Marty Ball!!!

Seriously; this is going to be a good team. The PLAYERS had a lack of intesity comming out of the locker room at the half, that was the difference.

We have a shot at being line up for a run at the playoffs in november and december, and that is all you can ask for. BTW our shedule is no joke.

Peace

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The problem is this, the people that agree with this thread are the same people saying "A win is a win, and ignore everything else." A win is a win, and I will definitely take an ugly win over a pretty loss every day, but you still have to look at what your team is or WASN'T doing. We have some deep rooted problems that need to be worked out, and I feel a lot of it comes from the play calling and mentality standpoint. To me, it seems like we don't have the killer instinct, or drive to finish people. Gibbs big thing is he never wants to embarrass other teams. I don't care if another team is embarrassed, any chance you get you score points and lots of them. Notice how we always seem to do well in the first half, then the 2nd half we always end up doing terrible? I prefer the Redskins to be losing games going into the 2nd half, it's the only way our offense actually tries to score.

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I wonder if last years savior, Sean Payton is now the N.O village idiot?

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I was a fan when we won three super bowls and I was a fan when we lost 13 games...I'm still a fan now, and will always be no matter what. Gibbs may or may not have made a mistake, but he's a HOF coach, unless anyone else on here can boast those kind of credentials I would suggest you lay off the F-Gibbs bandwagon, I'm not saying don't criticise, just remember, he's been doing it a lot longer and better than you have.

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[quote=Kope;357075]Bah jooo positive people!! fire Gibbs - look at how well San Diego is doing after getting rid of Marty Ball!!!

Seriously; this is going to be a good team. The PLAYERS had a lack of intesity comming out of the locker room at the half, that was the difference.

We have a shot at being line up for a run at the playoffs in november and december, and that is all you can ask for. BTW our shedule is no joke.

Peace[/quote]


I know the problem with SD. I will only use his intials " Norv Turner". Enough said.

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[QUOTE=Daseal;357076]The problem is this, the people that agree with this thread are the same people saying "A win is a win, and ignore everything else." A win is a win, and I will definitely take an ugly win over a pretty loss every day, but you still have to look at what your team is or WASN'T doing. We have some deep rooted problems that need to be worked out, and I feel a lot of it comes from the play calling and mentality standpoint. To me, it seems like we don't have the killer instinct, or drive to finish people. Gibbs big thing is he never wants to embarrass other teams. I don't care if another team is embarrassed, any chance you get you score points and lots of them. Notice how we always seem to do well in the first half, then the 2nd half we always end up doing terrible? I prefer the Redskins to be losing games going into the 2nd half, it's the only way our offense actually tries to score.[/QUOTE]

"Killer Instinct" is the new "We need a General Manager" Everyone says but has no clue what they're saying. We passed the ball (too much in my opinion), and passed deep with a 14-3 lead. We didn't complete the passes and that allowed the Giants to creep back into the game. That's not lack of killer instinct, that's lack of execution.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;357053]I'm not panicing at all. I know we have a good team. I am pissed about the fact we lost to the giants, but that in no way means I am in panic mode.
I am also pissed that (regardless of the way some people saw a different game) we played extremely conservative in the second half. Hopefully the coaching staff will also see the error of their ways and make adjustments.
I guess we'll find out vs the Packers.
We still have a good team, and have good talent. I also look at it like this (now that I am calmed down), if before the season started, someone said we would be 2-1 at the bye week, we'd all take it. Every last one of us. We are where we should be, and we're in good shape.[/QUOTE]
This is pretty much how I feel: pissed off but not panicked. I just hope we come out of the bye week and stick it to the Lions.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;357053]I also look at it like this (now that I am calmed down), if before the season started, someone said we would be 2-1 at the bye week, we'd all take it. Every last one of us. We are where we should be, and we're in good shape.[/QUOTE]

So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/playbook/16216-redskinswarpath-com-how-you-can-help-3.html[/url]

7. Step Away From The Computer. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. After a loss everyone wants to jump on the site, which is great but often times (most times) emotions overrule coherence and cause the most tension on this site. The site will still be here tomorrow, take a day to regroup then come back and post sensibly.

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I dont think it was the loss that got to everyone, It was the way that we lost. But whatever I said my piece on it now I am looking towards the Lions game. Hopefully the Rams can pull an upset on the Cowboys which seems impossible seeing that Steven Jackson is not playing.

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;357148]I dont think it was the loss that got to everyone, It was the way that we lost. But whatever I said my piece on it now I am looking towards the Lions game. Hopefully the Rams can pull an upset on the Cowboys which seems impossible seeing that Steven Jackson is not playing.[/QUOTE]

Exactly....its not that we lost, its that we lost like that...and its becoming all too fimiliar for Redskins fans, especially us who are a bit younger and never got to experiance the "glory years"....it just seems like this happens year, after year, after year so I dont get why people are "idiots" or "not fans" when they are basically trained to think this way becuase the team does this over and over and over again?

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Winning cures everything. Regroup and come back after the bye and play Redskin football and all will be fine.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;357152]Exactly....its not that we lost, its that we lost like that...and its becoming all too fimiliar for Redskins fans, especially us who are a bit younger and never got to experiance the "glory years"....it just seems like this happens year, after year, after year so I dont get why people are "idiots" or "not fans" when they are basically trained to think this way becuase the team does this over and over and over again?[/QUOTE]

One example of "not fans" "Not fans" are the ones who are nowhere to be found after the first 2 wins of the season, and then bitch and moan after this loss.

And how would you want us to lose?

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;357199]One example of "not fans" "Not fans" are the ones who are nowhere to be found after the first 2 wins of the season, and then bitch and moan after this loss.

[B]And how would you want us to lose[/B]?[/QUOTE]

I want us to lose when were not the best team on the feild...I think the reason we get so frustrated by these losses...is they are rarley that we get outplayed, and rarley do we face teams with more talent...clearly we came out of the locker room..it wasent a back and fourth and back and fourth game..we DOMINATED that team for a half, and then decided not to play anymore, just watch. We choked. I can deal with losses just fine when we are clearly outplayed or just cant match-up with teams...if/when we play New England, and we lose ..i'll be pretty accepting of that because they're a better football team... I dont think the New York Giants are not a better football team than us, and they werent better than us really on Sunday, but we let it get away...just like I'll be Irate if we lose to the Lions or Cardinals at home...they're no better than we are, were at home, were supposed to have a HOF head coach, and the best offensive/defensive coordinators in the league..... In my opinion that sucks.

I've said it about a hundred times the past 3 days...Good Football teams NEVER EVER blow a 14 point lead at home, to the worst freaking defense in football.

And this is directed to no one inperticular...but the next person who puts "Fans" in the word quotes, I'm going to flip out on...because if people feel that strongly about this stuff and have been in a crappy mood all week and were pissed off after the game clearly care a little bit....I'm sick of freaking losing, and acting like people are hoping that things go bad is just ignorant.

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Would people have been more happy about the state of our team had we been totally dominated in both halves? Sometimes I think the answer might be yes.

As for our previous wins not being "good wins," I'd like to see us blow teams out of the water but we're simply not dominant enough to do that. Moreover, I think we should be given some credit for winning in OT, particularly when we are giving the team so much flak for narrowly losing. Finally, I think that our victory against the eagles by more than 7 points deserves some praise, particularly in light of what the Eagles did last week to the Lions.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711;357201]I want us to lose when were not the best team on the feild...I think the reason we get so frustrated by these losses...is they are rarley that we get outplayed, and rarley do we face teams with more talent...clearly we came out of the locker room..it wasent a back and fourth and back and fourth game..we DOMINATED that team for a half, and then decided not to play anymore, just watch. We choked. I can deal with losses just fine when we are clearly outplayed or just cant match-up with teams...if/when we play New England, and we lose ..i'll be pretty accepting of that because they're a better football team... I dont think the New York Giants are not a better football team than us, and they werent better than us really on Sunday, but we let it get away...just like I'll be Irate if we lose to the Lions or Cardinals at home...they're no better than we are, were at home, were supposed to have a HOF head coach, and the best offensive/defensive coordinators in the league..... In my opinion that sucks.

I've said it about a hundred times the past 3 days...Good Football teams NEVER EVER blow a 14 point lead at home, to the worst freaking defense in football.

And this is directed to no one inperticular...but the next person who puts "Fans" in the word quotes, I'm going to flip out on...because if people feel that strongly about this stuff and have been in a crappy mood all week and were pissed off after the game clearly care a little bit....I'm sick of freaking losing, and acting like people are hoping that things go bad is just ignorant.[/QUOTE]

Well, you and I both know there are people on this board who want to do nothing but complain. We've discussed this. Maybe they're fans, but they are fairweather to say the least. It's total bull in my opinion to imply (and I don't think you in particular are doing this) that you have to start threads like "Joe Must Go" to show that you care. You think I'm happy we lost? Of course I'm not

Of course it sucks that we lost to a team we should have beaten. By the same token, it was awesome that went on the road against a division opponent and won a game we were expected to lose. How quickly we forget that though. We didn't get it done. We (as I've pointed out in I think three other threads) had the same approach as the Patriots with a two score lead. They executed, we did not. We had the chance to go 3-0 into the bye week (and 2-0 against the NFC East) and we didn't. Instead, we're "only" 2-1.

Those of us who aren't ready to hang ourselves, aren't happy we lost. We're just not going to fold on the season because one bad loss. Not saying you are. But this is (as someone else pointed out) reminiscent of that terrible loss to Oakland two years ago where afterward half the board wanted to jump off a cliff.

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2-1 is roughly equal to 10-6 or 11-5 at the end of the season...that means playoffs, folks...we'll be fine...

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Just can't rush to judgement 3 weeks into the season. Relax everyone. Look forward to good football with October on the horizon!

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;357141]So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/playbook/16216-redskinswarpath-com-how-you-can-help-3.html[/url]

7. Step Away From The Computer. Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing. After a loss everyone wants to jump on the site, which is great but often times (most times) emotions overrule coherence and cause the most tension on this site. The site will still be here tomorrow, take a day to regroup then come back and post sensibly.[/QUOTE]

Did I say anything that I regret...NOPE. I still say Gibbs and company were conservative, sure I said it with more piss and vinigar, but it remains true.
Not once did I say "fire Gibbs", or "this team sucks", or the "season is over". You're barking up the wrong tree on this one SS. Your comment should not apply to me.

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I would just like to say that there are only two teams with better records than us right now. And one of these two teams we play in two weeks. The nfc looks incredibly weak this year, the bears are 1-2 with an apparent qb controversy, and maybe the nfc favorite saints are 0-3 and have lost badly in each game. We are still in very good shape to do well in the nfc. We have a very winable game with detroit in two weeks. If we have a strong standing in green bay will we be among the best teams in the nfc. Even if we only split each divisional opponent we should still be in the hunt for the playoffs so I am not that worried.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;357141]So why not wait until you've calmed down to post? This applies to everyone, not just you[/QUOTE]

You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;357223]You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.[/QUOTE]

Fine. Whatever makes you happy

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[quote=jsarno;357223]You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.[/quote]

Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?

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[QUOTE=jsarno;357223]You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.[/QUOTE]

Wow..Smoot/Gman are going to get into it a little bit today... Now while there is ALOT to what Smoot said...and trust me some of the crap that people write on this site are understandably frustrating, perticularly when someone has to sort through all that crap to remove posts and make sure the sight is going to run smoothly....but theres somthing to what is said here too I think, and I dont agree with Jsnaro on a ton of issues, but I often find this place to be very theraputic to vent after a loss, because instead of people just going "its ok, its just a game..or all the other crap I hear at home" I feel like people here understand the frustrations...so I dont nessicarily think people need to "cool down" before they post anything, because I think posting is part of cooling down and venting your frustrations....now this DOES NOT mean that people should start a million threads about every single little thing that is going on and bothering them, but I think if you want to be hot headed a little bit I think thats a good thing....

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[QUOTE=jsarno;357223]You know, what makes this site great is that there are all different opinions and views. Why do you insist on trying to control people on those opinions? Sure I don't want to hear "this team sucks, we're going downhill" either, but they are venting cause they are pissed. So maybe those of you that get extremely pissed should take a step back and realize it's emotion rather than get annoyed and try to make others conform to your way of thinking.
Not everyone wants to drink the Gibbs kool-aid. That's fine. Like it or not people have differences of opinions.
So why don't WE ALL calm down and get back to focusing on why we are here, loving our Skins instead of pointing fingers at one another.[/QUOTE]

After reading this, this sounded harsher than I wanted it to. I am just trying to point out that for every person that is upset about how we lost (not that we did lose, it's how we lost) there is someone upset about those people being upset.
We all need to relax. No need to jump off a bridge! Let's unite in the fact that we all love our Skins.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;357226]Let's set one thing straight, we're not trying to control opinions or make anyone drink the kool-aid (anyone else really hate that dumb expression?).

But consider this, what sort of meaningful value do these insane, pissed off, knee-jerk, emotionally laced tirades add to the site in your opinion?[/QUOTE]

There are some here that indeed drink that kool aid, then push their kool aid on others. It's OK...just pointing out the irony.
Like GMan said, sometimes people find solice in the fact that there are others that feel the way they do.
So why not let others vent? Like I said, I don't like the "this team is doomed" comments as much as you do (and for the record I did not say those things like SS implied I did) but let's not get any dilusions that the knee jerk reactions are solely by those that are predicting doom. It's also from those complaining about those same people.

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For the record SS, I don't want Gibbs fired, I don't think the season is over, I want the coaching staff to stop being conservative and letting other teams back into the game. The Colts NEVER play conservative and look at them.