Portis Interview on Fox
 

Did anyone see the interview with Portis on Fox before the game yesterday?

They were talking about how Jason Campbell puts in so much overtime at the training facilities. Portis was asked if he puts in that much overtime and he said, "After 9 hours it is not in my contract to put in anymore time'

That pissed me off! If Portis was playing half as good as Campbell then he could brag about what his contract says but right now he is not earning his paycheck.

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I think it's known that CP is not one of the hardest working guys on the team. He saves it for game day. I would say most NFL teams have guys like CP. Problem here is when you start putting the ball on the ground and you lose then everything gets brought up.

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[quote=skinsfan69;364776]I think it's known that CP is not one of the hardest working guys on the team. He saves it for game day. I would say most NFL teams have guys like CP. Problem here is when you start putting the ball on the ground and you lose then everything gets brought up.[/quote]

Exactly. If CP was peforming well then I would careless what he does in practice but he is not helping the team at all right now.

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That doesn't bother me, because Portis does come to play on Sunday. He's usually our best RB at picking up blitzing LBs, so he must be doing something right in the film room.

I [B]love[/B] the fact that Campbell is the hardest working guy on the team. That bodes well for his ascension among the elites at QB. I said this on another thread, and it bears repeating - trading up to snatch Campbell will prove to be the most significant personnel decision of Gibbs 2.0.

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Doesn't bug me, Portis plays harder than anyone else on Sunday, that's what I care about. He gives 100% when he is on the field every single time. Plus Portis says things trying to be funny and it comes off as him being arrogant at times but I think it's in good fun.

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I don't know what is going on with Portis. He must be battling through something personally in his personal life or with football. It must have something to do with his injury. Whatever it is (and easier said than done), he just needs to persevere and work through this stuff.

On a side note, I wonder what he was trying to talk to Gregg Williams about on the sideline.

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[quote=warriorzpath;364782]I don't know what is going on with Portis. He must be battling through something personally in his personal life or with football. It must have something to do with his injury. Whatever it is (and easier said than done), he just needs to persevere and work through this stuff.

On a side note, I wonder what he was trying to talk to Gregg Williams about on the sideline.[/quote]

He was probably apologizing to Greg Williams for making the defense go out and clean up the mess he made with that fumble.

Portis needs to concentrate on becoming a better running back and worry less about running his mouth right now. When you are winning you can run your mouth but when your are losing then you need to focus on practice and the games.

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Portis seems to have a very ho-hum attitude this year. I think Aikman is absolutely right in his assessment that something isn't quite right with Portis health wise. I don't know if he has a bruised knee or a bruised ego (having to share time), but something just isn't there IMO.

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[quote=warriorzpath;364782]I don't know what is going on with Portis. He must be battling through something personally in his personal life or with football. It must have something to do with his injury. Whatever it is (and easier said than done), he just needs to persevere and work through this stuff.

On a side note, I wonder what he was trying to talk to Gregg Williams about on the sideline.[/quote]

I thought it was funny that when he went over to GW, Williams was just basically like, "yeah, f@ck off."

We already have one RB with fumble issues (Betts), now Portis too. This Arizona game is MASSIVE. I'll tell you what, I'll be starting the Redskins D in my fantasy league if Tim Rattay starts for AZ....

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[quote=billyharless;364787]He was probably apologizing to Greg Williams for making the defense go out and clean up the mess he made with that fumble.[/quote]

That sounds right.

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[quote=skinsfan69;364776]I think it's known that CP is not one of the hardest working guys on the team. He saves it for game day. I would say most NFL teams have guys like CP. Problem here is when you start putting the ball on the ground and you lose then everything gets brought up.[/quote]

Maybe it should be noticed??
Many people thought Spurrier's negative remarks about coach's working 100 hours a week kind of cool. All went well with his light work schedule, and his reported golf days during the season, until we sucked.
If you need more work (and maybe the way Portis carries the ball needs work), maybe you should put in the time.
I love CP, and the guy is a total football man. I think he will get it done. This (as has been pointed out) may not be the best time to brag about short work days.
Judgement call on his part, and his judgement on such "media" matters, has not been all that good.

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[quote=Hog1;364796]Maybe it should be noticed??
Many people thought Spurrier's negative remarks about coach's working 100 hours a week kind of cool. All went well with his light work schedule, and his reported golf days during the season, until we sucked.
If you need more work (and maybe the way Portis carries the ball needs work), maybe you should put in the time.
I love CP, and the guy is a total football man. I think he will get it done. This (as has been pointed out) may not be the best time to brag about short work days.
Judgement call on his part, and his judgement on such "media" matters, has not been all that good.[/quote]

I recall when Tiki Barber used to fumble the ball a lot. He started working on that problem wit the coaches putting in more time to learn how to carry the ball differently. It paid off because his fumbles went down.

Don't get me wrong I am not a Tiki Barber fan but it is a good example of what Portis needs to do.

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[QUOTE=billyharless;364787]He was probably apologizing to Greg Williams for making the defense go out and clean up the mess he made with that fumble.

Portis needs to concentrate on becoming a better running back and worry less about running his mouth right now. When you are winning you can run your mouth but when your are losing then you need to focus on practice and the games.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you have an ax to grind with Portis.. I don't see how an interview with FOX correlates to him not focusing in practices and games... :confused:

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CP's comments don't really bother me. As we all know CP will say about anything. He is not out of shape and i'd venture to say that he is a hard worker, you don't get to his level by taking it easy. There's nothing wrong w/ working hard and having a life too.

He's also an established RB and i think it requires a little less "studying" than a first time NFL quarterback that has a lot of little things to work on.

CP doesn't have a history of fumbles so I'm not concerned. He probably won't have another all year. I'm sure he feels bad enough for it not to happen again.

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[quote=Paintrain;364809]Sounds like you have an ax to grind with Portis.. I don't see how an interview with FOX correlates to him not focusing in practices and games... :confused:[/quote]

In the interview he jokes about how his contract does not allow him to work overtime on the practice field.

CP practiced two days in a row for the first time since last year just recently. He is playing terrible and needs to put in some more work on his game.

Maybe because I am in the local area I hear more of the stories about how Portis does not work hard on the practice field. I am just getting tired of hearing about it while his playing sucks.

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[quote=redsk1;364817]. He is not out of shape and i'd venture to say that he is a hard worker, you don't get to his level by taking it easy. There's nothing wrong w/ working hard and having a life too.

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I would disagree. CP is not in shape. He has proved that in the first few games of the season. In fact, there are other players who are not in shape as well. As much as I love Coach Gibbs, maybe he is being too soft on the players.

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LOL I love how the shit hits the fan around here after every single loss.

Trade this guy, cut that guy, this guy is out of shape, that guy is doggin' it, blah blah.

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[quote=Mattyk72;364829]LOL I love how the shit hits the fan around here after every single loss.

Trade this guy, cut that guy, this guy is out of shape, that guy is doggin' it, blah blah.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong. I love CP. I wear his jersey on game day and so do my kids. I do not want to cut him I just want to see him focus more Monday through Saturday and not just on Sunday because that ain't working for him right now.

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I think alot of it has to do with the nature of the positions too. Alot of Jasons extra work, I'm sure is film work and just learning how to play the position of quarterback....its really not that difficult to learn how to be a good running back, you either have the skill to do it or you dont. I really dont think Portis' mistakes up to this point could be corrected by any extra work (not saying he shouldnt put in extra work, but hopefully you get what I'm saying)....

The Failure rates for QB's are so much higher than RB's that you almost have to put in that type of work to be successful..

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[quote=billyharless;364830]Don't get me wrong. I love CP. I wear his jersey on game day and so do my kids. I do not want to cut him I just want to see him focus more Monday through Saturday and not just on Sunday because that ain't working for him right now.[/quote]

Unless someone sneaks into Redskins Park we don't know what he's doing or not doing through the week. I wish we would stop speculating on crap like this.

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[QUOTE=billyharless;364820]In the interview he jokes about how his contract does not allow him to work overtime on the practice field.

CP practiced two days in a row for the first time since last year just recently. He is playing terrible and needs to put in some more work on his game.

Maybe because I am in the local area I hear more of the stories about how Portis does not work hard on the practice field. I am just getting tired of hearing about it while his playing sucks.[/QUOTE]

Do you really think his "terrible play" is attributed to him not practicing 2 days in a row until recently or perhaps 2/5 of the starting offensive line being injured and another 2/5 have all of 8 weeks next to each other?

If Betts were tearing it up behind the same offensive line with the same play calling I would see it a little bit more, but our running game is piss-poor as a whole, I don't get why Portis draws so much of your venom.

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[quote=Paintrain;364833]Do you really think his "terrible play" is attributed to him not practicing 2 days in a row until recently or perhaps 2/5 of the starting offensive line being injured and another 2/5 have all of 8 weeks next to each other?

If Betts were tearing it up behind the same offensive line with the same play calling I would see it a little bit more, but our running game is piss-poor as a whole, I don't get why Portis draws so much of your venom.[/quote]

Not venom - just constructive critisim. I don't see a need to apologize or defend Clinton if he decides to talk trash and not produce on the the field on game day.

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[quote=Mattyk72;364832]Unless someone sneaks into Redskins Park we don't know what he's doing or not doing through the week. I wish we would stop speculating on crap like this.[/quote]

The local coverage here does give practice reports. There isn't that much speculation about it.

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One thing I do agree about questioning is whether we should be giving more work to Betts. I think Aikman made a good point that right now Portis is lacking something. If his knee is not 100% I wish we would just sit him down for a week or two, or at least give Betts more work.

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[quote=billyharless;364839]The local coverage here does give practice reports. There isn't that much speculation about it.[/quote]

He might be limited in practice but that doesn't mean he's twiddling his thumbs at Redskins Park and not putting in any work.

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[quote=Mattyk72;364841]He might be limited in practice but that doesn't mean he's twiddling his thumbs at Redskins Park and not putting in any work.[/quote]

Some days he doesn't dress out until just recently.

In reply to your previous post about giving Betts more work. I agree but I also think we should continue to give Sellers more work.

The reverse play was a bad call but I don't blame coaching on the loss. I blame the players. We should have been running the ball up the middle with the lead we had in the game. With the field conditions it was not time for a fancy play.

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Honestly, I think Portis' production has been good considering the state of our O-line.

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[quote=GMScud;364788]Portis seems to have a very ho-hum attitude this year. I think Aikman is absolutely right in his assessment that something isn't quite right with Portis health wise. I don't know if he has a bruised knee or a bruised ego (having to share time), but something just isn't there IMO.[/quote]

Great analysis from Aikman again. The only problem with Portis is that 60% of his offensive line is missing. Changes your effectiveness when you take away half the field. I mean, to run to the right, we need to be in a strong set to the right, [I]and[/I] we need to pull our starters from the left in front of him.

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I am glad most people are not overreacting. Portis needs to just needs to focus. He has a decent amount of TDs this year, last couple games these fumbles have hurt us.

I think his production is also worst because of our Oline.

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[quote=hooskins;364882]I am glad most people are not overreacting. Portis needs to just needs to focus. He has a decent amount of TDs this year, last couple games these fumbles have hurt us.

I think his production is also worst because of our Oline.[/quote]

True the offensive line is more of a worry than CP. I just hope his heart is in it. John Riggins asked the question today on his radio show, "Is CP done? Has he seen his best days already?" I think because CP does go hard in games his running lifespan may be shorter than others.

Winning cures everything.

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Portis has the kind of personality that sometimes get's him in trouble with the things he says. He does not always take into consideration the repercussions that may follow his comments, and when they're polarized he's caught off guard. (see his comments about Michael Vick) I was hoping after that episode he had learned to temper his statements, because whatever he says is more likely to be magnified.

Had we won the game yesterday (despite his fumble) we probably would not be talking about this anyway, but that's life when you lose, everything becomes bigger than life.

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[quote=Longtimefan;364905]Portis has the kind of personality that sometimes get's him in trouble with the things he says. He does not always take into consideration the repercussions that may follow his comments, and when they're polarized he's caught off guard. (see his comments about Michael Vick) I was hoping after that episode he had learned to temper his statements, because whatever he says is more likely to be magnified.

Had we won the game yesterday (despite his fumble) we probably would not be talking about this anyway, but that's life when you lose, everything becomes bigger than life.[/quote]

Well said bro!

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he isn't holding out of practice because of arrogance... he has legitimate health issues that should be forcing him out of the game, but he's still playing. He's puttin forth effort just playing on game day. He probably should be sitting out... everytime he comes out of the game he limps... that should show you something.

I think he and gibbs aren't making too much of the injury because they don't want people keying in on it when he's playing.

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This is whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. Portis is a team player, a leader and someone every team in the league would like to have on their team. He has already done everything you could ask of him and if it takes 9 hours a day to get the job done then that's all he needs to put in. Period!

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While we're speculating... a few months back my son was putting together a fantasy football team and asked me about adding CP this year. I told him between the two Washington backs, I'd take Betts over Portis in the long run. He asked why and I told him if the tendonitis is a legitimate health concern, it will become a greater factor in his playing time as the season wears on, and you may see more and more of Betts as a result. It could be possible that his tendonitis is flaring up again and he's trying to play through it.

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[quote=billyharless;364839]The local coverage here does give practice reports. There isn't that much speculation about it.[/quote]
I guess that we forget that he has had knee issues from the begining of training camp which has limited his time on the practice field. What do we want him to do go out and wear his knee out durn the week so its in worse shape come Sunday?

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Portis does not look ready to play a full 60 minutes of football and be the guy to carry this team . . it could be b/c of his injuries, which leads to his lack of practice and game-shape conditioning and the huge injuries to our O line do not help . . .then sprinkle on top alil bit of gibbs saying "our backs are interchangeable" and portis coming into this season saying he has to prove the doubters wrong or he wont be here next year and perhaps just maybe that competitive guy who once wore a heavyweight champ belt around his waist on the sideline in denver isnt so competitive and 110% into it anymore . . . i dont know, but i do know we need him to step up more than ever right now or start giving betts 15-20 carries b/c hes the type of runner that needs to pound the Dline for a few quarters and get warmed up.

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[quote=LongTimeSkinsFan;365048]While we're speculating... a few months back my son was putting together a fantasy football team and asked me about adding CP this year. I told him between the two Washington backs, I'd take Betts over Portis in the long run.[/quote]

In terms of fantasy football, that's not very good advice. Fantasy football is all about yards and touchdowns. In a typically scored league, Portis probably has somewhere around 60 points on the season, while Betts has a little over 10 points.

And even if Betts begins to get the bulk of the carries, he still can't get in the endzone. He's not a good fantasy back unless both your starters aren't playing for some reason.

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[quote=saden1;365041]This is whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. Portis is a team player, a leader and someone every team in the league would like to have on their team. [B]He has already done everything you could ask of him and if it takes 9 hours a day to get the job done then that's all he needs to put in. Period[/B]![/quote]

Hmmm, not to sure he is getting the job done? He has yet to have a 100 yd game (o-line issues?) Constantly goes out of the game with a tweaked knee or ankle. Has put the ball on the ground at CRITICAL times this year.

Just like a previous post stated, WINNING cures everything and that isn't happening right now losing 2 of the last 3 to NFC teams.

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I also think there's something going on in the Portis situation that is not just the obvious.

Watching The Redskins Report (Saturday Night) with Jurgenson, Michael, and Wilbon, the subject of Portis came up. Riggins made reference to the fact Portis has the freedom to take himself out of the game when he so desires, and that it would not have been tolerated during Gibbs -1. I recall last year, before Portis was injured there were some concerns about this particular issue.

It's has become evident there is some form of conflict between Gibbs, Portis, and Saunders because the latter has made it known it's difficult for him to stay on the game plan when a player can take himself out at any point in the game. It is my belief that Saunders would like to use Betts more, but of course Gibbs swears by Portis. It's something they need to get worked out.