Fat tax?? What next, Big Brother?
 

Listening to an early morning talk show this morning, the topic being the Federal debate regarding putting some........tax's on foods (both at the grocery and fast food, etc) that contribute to weight management issues in this country. Argument being the alleged burden that these practices put on the Fed in the form of increased healthcare costs.
I'm like, what ELSE is the F.....n Fed going to decide for me?
I support smokers rights (or at least some of them) even though I do not smoke. I view their plight as another American freedom going away. I am greatly concerned that the Fed is going to completely control all of what used to be freedoms in this country.
Whats next to be regulated and taxed out of existence?
Motorcycles? to dangerous and to much health care involved.
etc?

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[quote=Hog1;365508]Listening to an early morning talk show this morning, the topic being the Federal debate regarding putting some........tax's on foods (both at the grocery and fast food, etc) that contribute to weight management issues in this country. Argument being the alleged burden that these practices put on the Fed in the form of increased healthcare costs.
I'm like, what ELSE is the F.....n Fed going to decide for me?
I support smokers rights (or at least some of them) even though I do not smoke. I view their plight as another American freedom going away. I am greatly concerned that the Fed is going to completely control all of what used to be freedoms in this country.
Whats next to be regulated and taxed out of existence?
Motorcycles? to dangerous and to much health care involved.
etc?[/quote]

I'm in complete disagreement with you.

When you're fat, you're more likely to go to the hospital for heart attacks and stuff like that. Now, insurers have to foot the bill for anyone under 65. But the majority of health problems hit after you're 65, which is covered by Medicare, which is funded by our tax dollars. So if you're fat, you're going to hit the hospital a lot more often after the age of 65, and you're going to drain Medicare's pocketbook a lot faster than a skinny 65-year-old would.

Since a fat guy pays the same Medicare tax rate as a skinny guy, how is it fair for the skinny guy? He's paying the same amount into Medicare, but after he's 65, he's not getting nearly as much out of it.

Not that he wants to get more out of it. He wants to stay healthy. Instead, the fat guy should be footing more of the bill. Taxing fatty foods is the easiest way.

Some people would say well I manage my weight, but I still want to eat at McDonald's once in a while. Why should I be taxed? The answer is you won't pay much tax if you're only eating there once in a while.

It's the fairest way to do it. The same thing should be done for smokers and drinkers.

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PS Just because something is taxed doesn't mean you are losing any freedoms. You're still free to smoke, eat fatty foods, and whatever. You're just asked to pay an increased share of medical expenses (which are not being paid now) in exchange for your freedoms.

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There's also a debate going on about an internet tax.

If your for any kind of tax, which I assume your for taxing somethings, I don't see why internet or fat foods would be a huge issue. It's all part of generating revenue for a government. Unless it really takes a huge chunk out of the spending pocket of the consumer (I'm no econ major, so please correct me if I'm wrong) then it shouldn't be a huge deal.

How are fat foods any different than cigarette's, alcohol, or anything else bad for your health that's taxed?

I really don't have a strong feeling either way for this... but I'm interested to here what Schneed and the likes have to say about it.

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Shit, I guess you beat me to it Schneed.

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[quote=RobH4413;365517]There's also a debate going on about an internet tax.

If your for any kind of tax, which I assume your for taxing somethings, I don't see why internet or fat foods would be a huge issue. It's all part of generating revenue for a government. Unless it really takes a huge chunk out of the spending pocket of the consumer (I'm no econ major, so please correct me if I'm wrong) then it shouldn't be a huge deal.

How are fat foods any different than cigarette's, alcohol, or anything else bad for your health that's taxed?

I really don't have a strong feeling either way for this... but I'm interested to here what Schneed and the likes have to say about it.[/quote]

In terms of economics, an increase in taxes always takes money out of the hands of the consumers. People are always going to buy food, but they'll have less money for other things, luxury items like IPods and TVs and designer jeans and home improvements. So less money in the hands of the consumer means less business for Best Buy, Walmart, Home Depot, etc. So the downside is you may see those companies cut jobs to save costs.

So increasing taxes generally goes hand in hand with unemployment. But if you're not piling on a big tax hike, and it only amounts to like 5 cents for a Big Mac, then the effect is minimal.

Besides, in this case, the government would be talking about shifting funds to help fund the healthcare system. Economically speaking, you have to weigh whether it's worth seeing a minor uptick in unemployment in exchange for better funding for the healthcare system. I think that tradeoff would be well worth it considering the state of our healthcare system.

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[quote=Schneed10;365516]PS Just because something is taxed doesn't mean you are losing any freedoms. You're still free to smoke, eat fatty foods, and whatever. You're just asked to pay an increased share of medical expenses (which are not being paid now) in exchange for your freedoms.[/quote]

That's way to much Kool aid consumption for me Schneed.
The larger issue is, do you want the Federal Government controlling more and more of your life?
Do you want the Federal Government to determine for YOU, what you should and should not do?
Do you accept politicians legislating your freedoms away?
What if it seriously begins to impair things you like? Your ok with that?
As I don't smoke, fast foods don't mean much to me either, BUT, the same as smokers rights. It's another American going away (ior at least impaired).
IMO, our govt is WAY to fat and full of do nothing bloodsuckers as it is. I do not wish to further feed that problem. I would prefer to find ways to pay for new or enhanced programs, and needs through reductions of same.
Less is better

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I have no problem with it. I say tax the shit outta smokers, drinkers, and fat asses. Their weaknesses put a strain on the economy. So if you want to kill yourself fine, but you should pay a premium for it.

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[quote=Hog1;365508]Listening to an early morning talk show this morning, the topic being the Federal debate regarding putting some........tax's on foods (both at the grocery and fast food, etc) that contribute to weight management issues in this country. Argument being the alleged burden that these practices put on the Fed in the form of increased healthcare costs.
I'm like, what ELSE is the F.....n Fed going to decide for me?
I support smokers rights (or at least some of them) even though I do not smoke. I view their plight as another American freedom going away. I am greatly concerned that the Fed is going to completely control all of what used to be freedoms in this country.
Whats next to be regulated and taxed out of existence?
[B]Motorcycles?[/B] to dangerous and to much health care involved.
etc?[/quote]

Well, we already have helmet laws, and motorcycle insurance is quite limited in it's coverage when compared to car insurance.

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[quote=Hog1;365545]That's way to much Kool aid consumption for me Schneed.
The larger issue is, do you want the Federal Government controlling more and more of your life?
Do you want the Federal Government to determine for YOU, what you should and should not do?
Do you accept politicians legislating your freedoms away?
What if it seriously begins to impair things you like? Your ok with that?
As I don't smoke, fast foods don't mean much to me either, BUT, the same as smokers rights. It's another American going away (ior at least impaired).
IMO, our govt is WAY to fat and full of do nothing bloodsuckers as it is. I do not wish to further feed that problem. I would prefer to find ways to pay for new or enhanced programs, and needs through reductions of same.
Less is better[/quote]
?

Taxing fast food doesn't let the Fed. Gov. determine you. It determines whether or not you want to pay 1.05$ for a dbl cheeseburger instead of 1.00$.

If you take away the bad, ie taxes, then you also take away the good. Things like maintaining infrastructure, disaster relief, social programs, law enforcement, and big business restrictions (environmental things, etc.).

If you don't want politicians to vote your freedom away, than don't re-elect them. That's the beauty of democracy. The problem is most people don't care enough to vote.

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[quote=Mattyk72;365554]I have no problem with it. I say tax the shit outta smokers, drinkers, and fat asses. Their weaknesses put a strain on the economy. So if you want to kill yourself fine, but you should pay a premium for it.[/quote]

:D

Hard to disagree with that.

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[quote=Hog1;365545]That's way to much Kool aid consumption for me Schneed.
The larger issue is, do you want the Federal Government controlling more and more of your life?
Do you want the Federal Government to determine for YOU, what you should and should not do?
Do you accept politicians legislating your freedoms away?
What if it seriously begins to impair things you like? Your ok with that?
As I don't smoke, fast foods don't mean much to me either, BUT, the same as smokers rights. It's another American going away (ior at least impaired).
IMO, our govt is WAY to fat and full of do nothing bloodsuckers as it is. I do not wish to further feed that problem. I would prefer to find ways to pay for new or enhanced programs, and needs through reductions of same.
Less is better[/quote]

Kool Aid consumption? Huh???

It comes down to this: does a cigarrette tax prevent you from being able to choose whether or not to smoke? Last I checked, a pack of smokes isn't priced at a level that prohibits it from being possible. Therefore, the freedom to smoke is still in place.

It's not a matter of slant, or "drinking the kool aid." It's cut and dry. Do you have the choice or not? Yes? OK then, you have the freedom. Pretty simple.

Just because they put a tax in place doesn't mean you can't still exercise your rights. If you can explain that one to me, I'm all ears.

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you know, the taxing only bothers me because of what its being used to pay for. we have a strong history of irresponsible spending. I know people that sell things to the federal govt. and they often try to spend the most they can on products (as much as they feel they can justify) so that they dont get budget cuts.

I also know of several programs with multi-agency participation and billion dollar budgets that get scrapped in early stages after breakdowns between govt agencies... no results but millions lost in spending.

Not to mention the pointless war that I have several family members fighting in...

I pay out about 20% of my income to taxes, then pay taxes on all the goods i buy, and even have to pay the feds taxes on the money i overpay to state taxes (WTF??) Not to mention Capital Gains, which investors just side step with Like Kind Trading, again only screwing the small time investors, who lack the resources to properly execute the trades...

I actually don't mind certain luxury taxes, and think its probably a good idea to tax fast food, I just wish they'd use the money theyre already taking for something worthwhile, instead of blowing it and thinking of ways to take more.

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People are always so quick to pull the "The gov't is taking away our freedoms" card.

As Schneed says you can still smoke, drink and eat til your heart's content. Nobody is saying you can't, but you just may have to pay a little more for these vices.

And frankly what's wrong with recouping some of the financial burden these smokers, drunks, and fat asses put on the rest of us who lead relatively healthy lifestyles?

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Did I just hear that Big Macs are gonna be 5 cents! Woo Hoo. Sorry for the sarcasm, but
IMHO adding a 5 cent tax on a big mac won't mean a hill of beans to those that consume them, I bet 90% of obese americans won't even notice or question the increase, 2 big macs costs me 10 cents more? No problem. I do think that obesity is going to cost this country huge if health care doesn't get fixed. I think they should have to pay more for health care, stick it to them where it counts. I don't want to have to pay for thier health care.

What upsets me more than anything is we have 3 kids and we shop at Walmart sometimes but its hard work to shop healthy in a store like that as compared to trader joe's, and then to see the fattie paying with the EBT card I think to myself WOW I just paid for all that crap anyway. Try and compare healthy shopping with all the crap you can get cheap, it sucks. Sorry, I'll get off my soap box. But I have a freind who owns a gym and we talk about this all the time.

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In general, I do agree with the sentiment that we should be looking for ways to use our government funds more efficiently. There is indeed a lot of wasteful spending. Each program spends a bunch of its time trying to justify why they need to exist and why they needs funds, rather than actually putting the funds to good use.

Trimming spending is a good idea. At the same time, people just need to accept that our government is going to have some inefficiencies. It's a huge damn country. It's never going to be perfect. That said, we can definitely improve it.

But all that is neither here nor there; the core argument here really is whether or not the concept of a fat tax is bothersome. To me, it doesn't take away freedoms, and it helps ensure that those who will use the Medicare system most often will be paying more for it. I can't see what's not to like.

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While I am shocked at the tolerance (at least on the surface) of the reponse in this thread of more govt intervention in our lives, so be it.
None of these intrusions impact me directly, l but I have concerns that they will in time directly impact things that ARE important to me.......and you!
I believe our govt is far to comfortable spending our tax dollars frivolously. I believe our govt is legislating ways to force Americans to comply with what "they" believe is best for us. I believe they have NO business doing either.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;365555]Well, we already have helmet laws, and motorcycle insurance is quite limited in it's coverage when compared to car insurance.[/QUOTE]

Depends on who you're talking about...there are still several states with no Helmet laws, such as where I live in NM.

I understand the comments about these people should pay a higher premium to kill themselves, it's a valid argument, but my concern is the slippery slope we're heading down.
Seat belt laws, anti gun laws, cig taxes...they are all in an effort to somehow control the general population. Wearing a seat belt should be my choice. Wearing a helmet should be my choice. Eating a burger at McDonalds should be my choice without having to pay a higher premium. What you guys are failing to see is that if this tax goes through places like McDonalds, Burger king etc will lose business, if they lose business, what is going to happen to the economy? How many employees do those fast food places employ? By taxing the food, the gov is saying we the people are wrong for choosing it. In a lot of cases we are, but who is the Gov to step in and tell everyone so. I personally HATE McDonalds with a passion, but my wife (who is 115 pounds) LOVES it. (the big n tasty) She is not fat, nor out of shape. She exercises every day to every other day...why should she be over charged for that burger?
I wear a selt belt every time I get in a car, but I understand the rights of others to not want to. I grew up in a state where you didn't have to (Mass) until recently. I don't always wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, and it's quite a different experience for those that haven't done it. I wear it when I plan to ride fast, (highways), but I don't if I'm piddling around town. I should never be told I have to wear a helmet, or a seat belt.
AGain, I understand the counter point to this, but I feel a lot of people are missing the point that this is becoming an evermore slippery slope. What's next? We are allowing the government to tell us what to do in just about everything we do, and that's not why the government is here. The government should not say "well you're not going to take care of yourself, so we will take care of you for you." [b]And who really takes the brunt of this general idea? The people who work hard for a living. Cause they are over taxed and no cig tax, or fast food tax will decrease the amount of tax burden on the working man.[/b]

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[quote=Hog1;365649]While I am shocked at the tolerance (at least on the surface) of the reponse in this thread of more govt intervention in our lives, so be it.
None of these intrusions impact me directly, l but I have concerns that they will in time directly impact things that ARE important to me.......and you!
I believe our govt is far to comfortable spending our tax dollars frivolously. I believe our govt is legislating ways to force Americans to comply with what "they" believe is best for us. I believe they have NO business doing either.[/quote]

I think you're way off base and a little crazy at the same time.

If you think the tax is about anything other than trying to find a way to fund healthcare for the 40 million people who don't have coverage, then you're crazy. Politicians want votes, and if they pass a tax that helps 40 million people get coverage a bit easier, then they'll do it.

Politicians don't care if you die from eating fatty food. All they care about is getting elected, so they're not going to care about your freedom to eat a big mac. They just want votes.

Secondly, I think you're WAY overblowing this. For some reason, you're equating a tax with the government discouraging you (or even prohibiting you) from doing certain things. It sounds like you smoked some bad dope and you can't shake the paranoia. Trust me Hog, this fat tax is not a gateway to a mandatory nationwide 7:00 pm curfew. Nobody's trying to control you, they just want more money so they can make more people in the country vote for them.

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Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather us see people stick it to some insurance companies. I know we've had this conversation in the past, yadda yadda yadda, but I HATE paying out the ass for "peace of mind". I haven't had to use it once yet, and still I've paid thousands of dollars over my lifetime.

They get to roll in MY money.

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How does a $.5 hike on cheeseburgers represent an intrusion into our daily lives by the gov't??

The slippery slope excuse is really overblown. We still have the freedom of choice when it comes to everything mentioned in this thread, there's just a price to pay if you make a certain decision.

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[quote=Hog1;365649]While I am shocked at the tolerance (at least on the surface) of the reponse in this thread of more govt intervention in our lives, so be it.
None of these intrusions impact me directly, l but I have concerns that they will in time directly impact things that ARE important to me.......and you!
I believe our govt is far to comfortable spending our tax dollars frivolously. I believe our govt is legislating ways to force Americans to comply with what "they" believe is best for us. I believe they have NO business doing either.[/quote]

I completely agree about the frivolous spending, but in regards to taxing fast foods, I see it as just another luxury tax. No one likes them, but they're a part of life and have been for centuries. Buying fast food is a choice, and you can opt not to buy it...

now, as far as fatty foods at grocery stores, go... that I'm not too sure about. Not everyone can afford to buy the lighter leaner foods as they're usually sold at a premium. I know when Im on a tight food budget I ain't exactly spending alot of time in the produce section...

I do have to say that the govt is taking measures (at least in the intelligence field) to ensure spending is more productive, implementing the "intelligence czar", etc... and opening lines of communication and information sharing between the agencies.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;365655]Honestly, as far as I'm concerned, I'd rather us see people stick it to some insurance companies. I know we've had this conversation in the past, yadda yadda yadda, but I HATE paying out the ass for "peace of mind". I haven't had to use it once yet, and still I've paid thousands of dollars over my lifetime.

They get to roll in MY money.[/quote]


people stick it to insurance companies every day with unreasonable frivolous lawsuits that people like you and I have to pay for...

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If you don't like insurance don't buy it. After all the odds are in your favor of probably never needing to use it.

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[quote=jsarno;365651]Depends on who you're talking about...there are still several states with no Helmet laws, such as where I live in NM.

I understand the comments about these people should pay a higher premium to kill themselves, it's a valid argument, but my concern is the slippery slope we're heading down.
Seat belt laws, anti gun laws, cig taxes...they are all in an effort to somehow control the general population. Wearing a seat belt should be my choice. Wearing a helmet should be my choice. Eating a burger at McDonalds should be my choice without having to pay a higher premium. What you guys are failing to see is that if this tax goes through places like McDonalds, Burger king etc will lose business, if they lose business, what is going to happen to the economy? How many employees do those fast food places employ? By taxing the food, the gov is saying we the people are wrong for choosing it. In a lot of cases we are, but who is the Gov to step in and tell everyone so. I personally HATE McDonalds with a passion, but my wife (who is 115 pounds) LOVES it. (the big n tasty) She is not fat, nor out of shape. She exercises every day to every other day...why should she be over charged for that burger?
I wear a selt belt every time I get in a car, but I understand the rights of others to not want to. I grew up in a state where you didn't have to (Mass) until recently. I don't always wear a helmet when I ride my motorcycle, and it's quite a different experience for those that haven't done it. I wear it when I plan to ride fast, (highways), but I don't if I'm piddling around town. I should never be told I have to wear a helmet, or a seat belt.
AGain, I understand the counter point to this, but I feel a lot of people are missing the point that this is becoming an evermore slippery slope. What's next? We are allowing the government to tell us what to do in just about everything we do, and that's not why the government is here. The government should not say "well you're not going to take care of yourself, so we will take care of you for you." [B]And who really takes the brunt of this general idea? The people who work hard for a living. Cause they are over taxed and no cig tax, or fast food tax will decrease the amount of tax burden on the working man.[/B][/quote]

See my previous post to Hog1. Seems like the two of you are both smoking the same bag of weed.

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[quote=Schneed10;365667]See my previous post to Hog1. Seems like the two of you are both smoking the same bag of weed.[/quote]

Now I understand when someone says they feel retarded after smoking.

:Smoker:

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How about no tax on health food. I bet that won't happen.

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[quote=mredskins;365709]How about no tax on health food. I bet that won't happen.[/quote]
Maybe you should be proactive and try to make this happen. Write your congressman a letter, find out his point of view on the issue, and ask him why he has that stance.

I believe if your living in Abingdon,MD you would be in the first district.

Here is where you can contact Congressman Wayne Gilchrest
[url=http://gilchrest.house.gov/contact.asp?ContactType=Form]Congressman Wayne Gilchrest - Serving Maryland's First District[/url]

Who knows, someone may happen.

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I'm for 0 new taxes on anything weather it helps me or not. I'm tired of the goverment wasting my money and the more they have the more they wast.

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I have also heard the argument that smoking and obess people save medicare money because they die younger.

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[quote=RobH4413;365730]Maybe you should be proactive and try to make this happen. Write your congressman a letter, find out his point of view on the issue, and ask him why he has that stance.

I believe if your living in Abingdon,MD you would be in the first district.

Here is where you can contact Congressman Wayne Gilchrest
[URL="http://gilchrest.house.gov/contact.asp?ContactType=Form"]Congressman Wayne Gilchrest - Serving Maryland's First District[/URL]

Who knows, someone may happen.[/quote]

Done, I will keep you posted. If you order some bean sprouts and there is no tax you will know my work is done.

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I find it odd that we give income tax breaks only to raise taxes on goods and services. We get tax breaks for owning a home but you pay state property tax. I'm I the only one who finds our tax system crooked? They give you a break only to turnaround and fleece you from another angle. Or increase fines or tax the hell out of a product most people don't like.

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[quote=firstdown;365736]I have also heard the argument that smoking and obess people save medicare money because they die younger.[/quote]

Incorrect, because even though they go out, they go out with catastrophically expensive cases.

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[quote=mredskins;365737]Done, I will keep you posted. If you order some bean sprouts and there is no tax you will know my work is done.[/quote]
Awesome!, I'm interested to hear if he has anything to say.

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[QUOTE=saden1;365742]I find it odd that we give income tax breaks only to raise taxes on goods and services. We get tax breaks for owning a home but you pay state property tax. I'm I the only one who finds our tax system crooked? They give you a break only to turnaround and fleece you from another angle. Or increase fines or tax the hell out of a product most people don't like.[/QUOTE]

We're back on the same wave length again. I 100% agree with you here.
For as many bad taxes there are out there, what about the death tax? Even after you die, they want taxes out of you. Jeesh.

I would really LOVE for the government to call me up and offer me a job to do nothing but look at the "budget" and trim the fat. This mean everything...$500 pens, $10,000 toilet seats etc. I know I could find all sorts of money.

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Some may find it interesting that Montgomery County, MD has banned sales on all food containing trans fats. Way to go rich people.


[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/15/AR2007051501387.html]Montgomery Bans Trans Fats in Restaurants, Markets - washingtonpost.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;365753]Incorrect, because even though they go out, they go out with catastrophically expensive cases.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure either way, but is there any proof to this? A massive heart attack is pretty cheap when the ambulance arrives and the guy is dead.
On the flip side, those that live longer and get other issues such as memory problems (can't spell alz....), do suck off the government. We're paying medicare and social security, as well as supporting nursing homes...not to mention the MASSIVE amount of elderly people that are taking 10 or more meds a DAY.
I am just not sure either way is more expensive than the other...any one have stats on this?

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[QUOTE=mredskins;365709]How about no tax on health food. I bet that won't happen.[/QUOTE]

There are certain foods that are good for you that taken in massive quantities are bad for you. The "obese" people in the world aren't satisfied with 1 extra value meal when they go through the drive through line...they want a lot more.
Why don't people just realize it's about the lack of exercise in this country. Maybe they should make a mandatory 35 hour work week so we have more time to work out? Or we're only allowed to work 4 days a week or something? Then spend the extra tax dollars on a gym membership. If you don't use it, then you need to pay a fee or something? That would give people incentive. Taxing the food won't do a thing to help obesity. NOTHING. So why are they doing it? MONEY. Plain and simple.

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[quote=Schneed10;365753]Incorrect, because even though they go out, they go out with catastrophically expensive cases.[/quote]
And healthy people just fall over and die on the streets without using the system once.LOL But allot of unhealthy people do not make it to age 65 to get medicare.

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[quote=jsarno;365771]There are certain foods that are good for you that taken in massive quantities are bad for you. The "obese" people in the world aren't satisfied with 1 extra value meal when they go through the drive through line...they want a lot more.
Why don't people just realize it's about the lack of exercise in this country. Maybe they should make a mandatory 35 hour work week so we have more time to work out? Or we're only allowed to work 4 days a week or something? Then spend the extra tax dollars on a gym membership. If you don't use it, then you need to pay a fee or something? That would give people incentive. Taxing the food won't do a thing to help obesity. NOTHING. So why are they doing it? MONEY. Plain and simple.[/quote]
I vote for the extra day off because thats when I do my healthest stuff like running to the frig for a cold one.