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Monkeydad 10-29-2007 05:12 PM

Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
Not THAT Clemens, Kellen Clemens will start vs. us in New Jersey this Sunday.

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=At2ZwtIH6DZwm5SOWR20V_BDubYF?slug=ap-jets-qbs&prov=ap&type=lgns"]Pennington sacked as Jets starter; Mangini turns to Clemens - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

jbcjr14 10-29-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
Wow, guess they needed a spark of some sort? I didn't think Pennington had played all that bad the last few weeks.

chrisl13 10-29-2007 05:21 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
we should kick their ass

SUNRA 10-29-2007 06:15 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
Damn, Man-Genius is an ignoramous. Klemens should be on the side lines holding a clipboard. I told guys at my job, that we are just going to have to take our frustrations out on the Jets.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 10-29-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[QUOTE=chrisl13;371019]we should kick their ass[/QUOTE]

You would think so, but he actually fared pretty well against the Ravens and earned a lot of respect from the Baltimore and New York presses.

djnemo65 10-29-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
I still like our chances in this game. Clemens might be a good player someday but not yet, at least not this weekend.

GMScud 10-29-2007 09:09 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;371047]You would think so, but he actually fared pretty well against the Ravens and earned a lot of respect from the Baltimore and New York presses.[/quote]

They brought him in for the last two series against Buffalo yesterday and he threw two INTs. He's starting his first game. We need to make him feel us.

Williams needs to dial up some blitzes. Their pass pro has been awful this year. Time to bring the noise. This D needs to get some frustration out.

jsarno 10-29-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
this move makes me nervous...clemens is a lot better than pennington!

We should still win though.

flashalexb 10-29-2007 10:03 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
This game should show the rest of the world our potential.

724Skinsfan 10-29-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=GMScud;371140]They brought him in for the last two series against Buffalo yesterday and he threw two INTs. He's starting his first game. We need to make him feel us.

Williams needs to dial up some blitzes. Their pass pro has been awful this year. Time to bring the noise. This D needs to get some frustration out.[/quote]

With Rogers out, I would think he'll hold off on the blitzes until he feels that the pass coverage can handle the absence. Not saying they won't, but I just don't expect much in the way of blitzing initially. We need to play smart, not emotional. I'd hate to lose this game because we got called for a record number of roughing the passer penalties.

jsarno 10-29-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[QUOTE=flashalexb;371164]This game should show the rest of the world our potential.[/QUOTE]

We've had plenty of chances, playing the Jets won't help that cause.

GMScud 10-29-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=jsarno;371162]this move makes me nervous...clemens is a lot better than pennington!

We should still win though.[/quote]

Correction- He has a better arm than Pennington. He still doesn't have the leadership or experience. I say we bring the house and fluster him early. We've had plenty of success with blitz packages in the past with GW, why not give it a whirl this weekend? The Jets flat out stink. They have an awful defense and a worse offense. They just got swept by the Bills and couldn't score a TD at home against a bottom 5 defense. We gotta get right in a big way this weekend. Aside from Miami week 1, there is NO QUESTION this is the softest team on our schedule. I wanna grudge f... this team.

GusFrerotte 10-29-2007 10:59 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=flashalexb;371164]This game should show the rest of the world our potential.[/quote]


Jets suck totally man. I mean Chad Pennington was their go to guy for like how long? I mean come on Chad Pennington? Brunell smokes that guy!!!!!! Unless we do to them what the Pats did to us it won't show anybody anything. If this game is even remotely close we suck also. With that I mean like 10 points or less.

GMScud 10-29-2007 11:00 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=GusFrerotte;371185]Jets suck man. Unless we do to them what the Pats did to us it won't show anybody anything. If this game is even remotely close we suck also.[/quote]

No way we'll beat them by 45, let alone score 45. That said, we BETTER pound that team.

GusFrerotte 10-29-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=GMScud;371187]No way we'll beat them by 45, let alone score 45. That said, we BETTER pound that team.[/quote]


I would love that Scud, but I don't think the Jets D is that bad. I just hope that this Clemons kid doesn't pull a rookie rabbit out the hat type win. That would be a lot worse than what just happened against the Pats. Ohhh the horror!!!!

jsarno 10-29-2007 11:03 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;371169]Correction- He has a better arm than Pennington. He still doesn't have the leadership or experience. I say we bring the house and fluster him early. We've had plenty of success with blitz packages in the past with GW, why not give it a whirl this weekend? The Jets flat out stink. They have an awful defense and a worse offense. They just got swept by the Bills and couldn't score a TD at home against a bottom 5 defense. We gotta get right in a big way this weekend. Aside from Miami week 1, there is NO QUESTION this is the softest team on our schedule. I wanna grudge f... this team.[/QUOTE]

That's true to an extent. While Pennington is better with leadership and experience, it won't be hard for Clemens to surpass him in both catagories. Clemens is much more talented, and we have seen the end of the Pennington area.
Changing QB's seems to have a positive effect on teams...like a shot in the arm, just what we don't need with all our injuries.

jdlea 10-29-2007 11:06 PM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;371140]They brought him in for the last two series against Buffalo yesterday and he threw two INTs. He's starting his first game. We need to make him feel us.

Williams needs to dial up some blitzes. Their pass pro has been awful this year. Time to bring the noise. This D needs to get some frustration out.[/QUOTE]

He's starting his second game and in his first he made enough plays to win the football game. If McCariens could have held onto a football, they would have tied that game and sent it into overtime. He had a great 4th quarter against the Ravens D and almost won the game. The move to Clemens is something I've been saying the Jets should do since that game, I'm not happy that it came this week...

mooby 10-30-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
I'm not happy about it either Jdlea. Clemens might not be a better all around player than Pennington right now, but he has a much better arm. He earned a lot of respect from me from the way he played in his first career start against the Ravens. He will probably make a few bad throws next week, but overall I think he just gives the Jets more explosiveness than Pennington.

Monkeydad 10-30-2007 10:48 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
[quote=jsarno;371162]this move makes me nervous...clemens is a lot better than pennington!

We should still win though.[/quote]

No he's not. Pennington isn't losing games for the Jets, their whole team is. They picked up a VERY good RB in Thomas Jones and can't even use him more than 15 times a game because they're always playing from behind.

The fans just wanted a change of pace and at 1-7, what could it hurt?

It's like when we (you people) were crying for Patrick Ramsey when we weren't winning with Brunell, Ramsey was clearly not better but losing makes fans want change.

Then suddenly Brunell helped us win 6 straight and make the playoffs. :D

Pennnington's a pretty good QB, smart, strong arm...just in a horrible situation.

BDBohnzie 10-30-2007 10:57 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
Clemens is everything that Pennington is not. However, he does not have Pennington's leadership or heart...at 1-7, the Jets are preparing for life after Pennington.

[QUOTE=Buster;371362]Pennnington's a pretty good QB, smart, strong arm...just in a horrible situation.[/QUOTE]
Smart yes, strong arm, not so much. He's had so many arm troubles in his career...

RMSkins 10-30-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
I know this is totally off topic, but is it me or does Chad Pennington kind of look like the Micheal Myers mask?

GTripp0012 10-30-2007 11:18 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
I have a problem with people who don't think Chad Pennington is a good QB. His example is a little extreme, but he may be the best example of a guy who is high on all the attributes that good QBs have, is short on some of the major tools that aren't important to good quarterbacking, and puts in great production year after year.

Pennington was having a down year, yet he was still completing 68% for 6 y/a. He's been a top ten QB in this league since 2002, likely still is, and never gets credit because people would rather see a big arm than a good QB.

All of this is lucky for us, because we now have a chance to confuse the Jets' QB this week and win a close one. If that same team played in any other city, Pennington would still be the QB, and his team would likely beat ours.

GTripp0012 10-30-2007 11:20 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
Clemens is a pretty good quarterback prospect.

But again, that's the same deal as Campbell. He's a pretty good prospect. He isn't a good quarterback, at least not yet.

I doubt he can ever be as good as Chad Pennington was though.

Big C 10-30-2007 11:26 AM

Re: Clemens to start for NY on Sunday
 
clemons sucks...good for us


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