Stop snitchin'
 

I'm born and raised in DC, and that's a huge, huge, huge thing over here. Especially in the urban areas.

I asked my friend in Cali if they had the stop snitchin' movement (or whatever they call it) over there, and they said they had no idea what stop snitchin' was.

Is this whole stop snitchin' thing just in the DC area or all over the place?

For those that don't know, Stop Snitchin is if you see a crime go down and the cops come by and ask you what happened, you didn't see nothing, you didn't hear nothing and you didn't know who did it. Apparently people get beat up or killed if they rat someone out to the cops. It's a pretty disturbing thing.

How do you guys feel about it?

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never heard of it but I'd like to believe I'd still tell the truth if threatened, but u can never really know for sure until it happens.

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if i see a crime go down, I'm talking. its the only way to deter the criminals. and its also the right thing to do

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ill talk unless i have the option to shoot, then I'll shoot.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;373706]I'm born and raised in DC, and that's a huge, huge, huge thing over here. Especially in the urban areas.

I asked my friend in Cali if they had the stop snitchin' movement (or whatever they call it) over there, and they said they had no idea what stop snitchin' was.

Is this whole stop snitchin' thing just in the DC area or all over the place?

For those that don't know, Stop Snitchin is if you see a crime go down and the cops come by and ask you what happened, you didn't see nothing, you didn't hear nothing and you didn't know who did it. Apparently people get beat up or killed if they rat someone out to the cops. It's a pretty disturbing thing.

How do you guys feel about it?[/QUOTE]

Never heard of it...not in Mass, or in New Mexico.
In fact there are several things in place that are the opposite. If you see a drunk driver, you can call and report them. If you see a crime, you call crime stoppers.
Stop Snitchin sounds like something people put together to make your area worse. If everyone shut up, crime would go up.
That's just a disturbing thing to hear.

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[quote=jsarno;373739]Never heard of it...not in Mass, or in New Mexico.
In fact there are several things in place that are the opposite. If you see a drunk driver, you can call and report them. If you see a crime, you call crime stoppers.
Stop Snitchin sounds like something people put together to make your area worse. If everyone shut up, crime would go up.
That's just a disturbing thing to hear.[/quote]

I agree. I don't live in the hood. Its a pretty modest working class neighborhood. Crime goes down but its pretty petty stuff, the worse we have in this parts is drug trafficking and even the traffickers tend to be cordial. Police have actually stepped up in my area and we have neighborhood meetings and such. But its terrible in the ghettos where this movement is prevalent. It's getting into popular culture now too which is why I asked. The most widely known incident is where one popular rapper had just performed at Howard University and was involved in a driveby. He knows who shot him and to this day, he hasn't told the cops. Due to this whole snitchin thing.

It's a jail mentality that has somehow leaked onto the streets. They say in jail, you don't snitch cause if you do, you're pretty much as a good as dead. Same goes around in the hood here.

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I've never heard of it either....I thought there was actually a law in place that if you actually did see a crime you HAD to report it to the police....the good Samaritan law or something??? Or maybe I just watch too much Seinfeld....haha

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Well the good Samaritan law still is in place cause of that whole crime that happened back in the 70s where the woman was stabbed and everyone heard it but no one called the cops. The Samaritan law is actually a real law isn't it? This whole thing I'm talking about is some stupid ass movement that people are actually adhering to.

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If I see I will report.
Period

Should I not Snitch if I see yer Mom get Robbed?
Please let me know

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;373751]Well the good Samaritan law still is in place cause of that whole crime that happened back in the 70s where the woman was stabbed and everyone heard it but no one called the cops. The Samaritan law is actually a real law isn't it? This whole thing I'm talking about is some stupid ass movement that people are actually adhering to.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if it's actually real or not. Dude I laugh every time I see a post from you with your "lint licker" quote....that commercial is hilarious I think! :lol:

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[quote=Sammy Baugh Fan;373756]If I see I will report.
Period

Should I not Snitch if I see yer Mom get Robbed?
Please let me know[/quote]

Well according to the streets no.

But according to me. Hell yes! lol if I see your folks, get robbed, I'll report for you too SBF :grouphug:

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Stop snitchin is prevalent in Philly. Definitely a problem. And definitely ridiculous.

Anyone who subscribes to that mindset should just be shot. That's bullshit. If I could, I'd not only call in the crime, I'd give the 5-0 the names of all the other people who saw it too.

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It's big in Baltimore. In fact, several years ago a couple of ex-cons made a music video about it and had Carmello Anthony (a native baltimoron) in it. He later said he didn't realize what he was doing.

Witness intimidation is a real problem here. Recently two houses have been firebombed b/c the people came forward. Prosecutors are constantly confronted with people refusing to testify b/c they know they won't/can't be protected.

It's easy to say you'd come forward but, in the wrong parts of town, the police can't protect you from the thugs. I know one family that indicated that they would go forward and the next day the family dog was on their doorstop beheaded.

Again, it is mainly in the poorer parts of town where this is going on.

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I think snitching and "narcing" is frowned upon in general by poorer communities. It is seen as disrespectful to the honor of the streets, whatever that may be.

But I guess you need to realize most people who follow this no snitching principle, don't put too much value into our laws/legal system. They have their own system set up.

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yeah i live in the country, but i used to have many dealings with different criminal elements and can completely understand the mentality...

there was a time when I thought all govt. was the enemy and wouldn't even use the police against people I hated, and i've seen some pretty serious corruption in police departments (even in small towns.) that'll make you think twice about calling the cops in alot of situations...

not because so much of fear of retribution, but big brother was always the ultimate enemy because you felt like you weren't doing anything to them and they wanted to take your life away...

having kids saved my life and I thank God everyday for my second chance at life, and take it seriously... I honestly think I do have a responsibility to help other people given the opportunity and if I die helping someone then so be it... better than what I would've died doing had I stayed on the path I was on before I grew up.

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do the people that enforce this sort of thing have Russian accents?

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[QUOTE=Hog1;373930]do the people that enforce this sort of thing have Russian accents?[/QUOTE]

No. They have automatic weapons, a will to kill and an army of addicted eyes that would turn in their own mother for a fix.

The whole thing is drug related. At least in Baltimore.

For all those who said "I would turn'em in" just know this - last year in November 2005 a woman and her five children died after their house was firebombed b/c she had been reporting drug activity in front of her house.

An older article detailing the issues:
[url=http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/02/12/baltimore_struggles_to_battle_witness_intimidation/?page=1]Baltimore struggles to battle witness intimidation - The Boston Globe[/url]

(the legislation discussed in this article failed - I don't remember why)

This one relates to juror intimidation:
[url=http://www.stattorney.org/article04.html]Baltimore City State's Attorney's Office[/url]

Q&A with a writer who did a story on it:
[url=http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200703u/witness-intimidation]Viewers to a Kill[/url]

Don't get me wrong, the only way to break the cycle is to stand up to the criminals. But it is easy for me to say that when I live in a neighborhood that believes that to be true. In the problem areas, you take not only your life into your hands but also those of your kids.

Not sure what I would do if I were to come home to threats - probably move out quickly. For some, however, that is not an option. The only places they have to go are still within reach of the criminals. It's easy to be brave for yourself - not so easy when it involves your kids, parents or other loved ones.

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It's pretty prevalent where I live too, just not in my neighborhood. When I was in school last year, a lot of thugs would wear Stop Snitchin t-shirts all the time, and I've talked to a few of my gangster friends about it and they all def. support it. One of them said they'd f up their own mother if she snitched, that's how big of a deal it is. Because they have that kind of mentality I don't f with them, if I see something happen I pretend like I didn't see it happen just because I know they'd be able to find me and that's when the safety of my family comes into play. It's an f'd up way of life but that's the way they handle it.

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I haven't heard of this but I think we could use a stop bitching campaign around here.

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[quote=Mattyk72;373989]I haven't heard of this but I think we could use a stop bitching campaign around here.[/quote]
put summo to work on the t shirts, pronto

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Stop Bitchin'. That's a good one. Just like any other campaign, you'll raise a few bucks, but it wont' be effective...look at the Just Say No campaign...

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I moved down from Boston last summer. It was big up there - stop snitchin' t-shirts and all. There's a resurgence of kids killing kids.

I saw an interesting post (I think in a blog) defining snitching. You see a murder and report it - not snitching. You participate in a murder and report it to reduce your sentence - snitching.

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The bad part is that the neighbor hoods which need to fight crimes the most are the one's that this is big in.

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[quote=Mattyk72;373989]I haven't heard of this but I think we could use a stop bitching campaign around here.[/quote]



Now your on to something!

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;373989]I haven't heard of this but I think we could use a stop bitching campaign around here.[/QUOTE]

I'll design the T-shirts...lol!

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This isn't unique to any one city.

9 times out of 10 any crime I worked in the projects, nobody saw a thing. You could quite literally have a trail of blood or a body in someone's front yard, the person would claim they were sitting on their porch all day long and tell you they saw nothing.

Unbelievable, really. People not willing to help the people who are trying to help them.

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I don't think (at least based on this thread) it's so much a matter of not wanting to help, as afraid to help for fear of retribution on themselves and their families. THAT is a tough call.
Sadly the cops may want to help. No witness, no problem. No witness, because they fear for their safety. Our justice system may have to evolve to deal with and other threats we are unaccustomed to.

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I would never rat out a friend for doing something, but I'll rat out a stranger any day. And I personally think that people who engage in witness intimidation should be given very, very, very lengthy jail sentences. It's pretty sad that some segments of our society have embraced that kind of crap.