Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

From JLC's blog:

[B]Sean Taylor was barely moving around with his right leg pretty much immobiler and stiff as a board. It's a knee sprain and we'll get more info later in the day, but Sean told some teammates it doesn't look as good as hoped and seems like he will miss at least a few weeks. But again, we'll get the official word later.[/B]

Oy, vey is meir. (Oh, woe is me, as my grandfather used to say. Sometimes Yiddish is the only way to express my feelings about the skins.)

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Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Yay for injures!

I haven't heard anything about Randy Thomas lately. It's possible we could get all these guys back at once, and still be in it.

Just another piece of adversity to deal with.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

i have a sprain right now in my thigh, i cant push off to run or swim, its ben a month already and im told it will be another month before im running. if he has a knee sprain hes likely done for the year, sprains are always terrible news.

and by "done for the year" im assuming we do not make the playoffs. and by not making the playoffs im assuming its because hes not playing......

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

This is just what we needed.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

So let me get this straight. On defense, Taylor, Washington, Rogers, Smoot, Griffin, and McIntosh have all been dealing with injuries. On offense, Jansen, Thomas, Thrash, Moss, and ARE are dealing with injuries. That's 11 players. Do we have a training staff?

I know people hate using injuries as a crutch (hardy-har-har), but let's get real. Anyone who things that Pierson will replace Taylor, Torrence will replace Rogers, Godfrey will replace Washington, Fabini will replace Thomas, Wade will replace Jansen, McCardell will replace Moss, etc. and the team will not miss a beat is smoking serious crack. Elite teams can cope with those injuries, but elite we are not.

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That would really really hurt (no pun intended) the team if he's out. Time to bring back Andre Lott!

On a related note, whither Omar Stoutmire? On another related note, why is Macklin always inactive? On yet another related note, while Taylor is out do you think maybe we could lock him up for another 10 years or so?

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Andre Johnson sprained his knee in week 2, and he still isn't back. :(

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

If there's any game that he should rest in, it's this one.

Again, it's still any given Sunday and watching TO with that shitty grin on his face after a TD is going to piss me off. Losing Taylor is huge. Maybe we at least get Marcus Washington back.

If I'm the Skins, I go into this laying it all on the table on defense. Blitz Romo ALL day long.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;377353]If there's any game that he should rest in, it's this one.

Again, it's still any given Sunday and watching TO with that shitty grin on his face after a TD is going to piss me off. Losing Taylor is huge. Maybe we at least get Marcus Washington back.

If I'm the Skins, I go into this laying it all on the table on defense. [b]Blitz Romo ALL day long.[/b][/QUOTE]

I agree. Make them beat the blitz. If we don't do that, they'll score anyways, so where's the harm?

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;377343]So let me get this straight. On defense, Taylor, Washington, Rogers, Smoot, Griffin, and McIntosh have all been dealing with injuries. On offense, Jansen, Thomas, Thrash, Moss, and ARE are dealing with injuries. That's 11 players. Do we have a training staff?
Elite teams can cope with those injuries, but elite we are not.[/QUOTE]
Even elite teams can't cope with losing basically one side of your team (11 players). In the Redskins case injuries are an excuse, especially when all those are "impact" players. Any team that loses impact players will hurt bad, look at the colts last night, 3 players lost in that game, plus no Marvin Harrison, etc. That's why I say don't quit on coach Gibbs.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

F... injuries!!

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=Mattyk72;377370]F... injuries!![/quote]
Heard that.

Brutal loss. Gotta give the F.O. credit for drafting LL. He's looking more and more like the perfect pick.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Where is Matt Bowen when you need him?

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=Mattyk72;377370]F... injuries!![/quote]A least we aren't as banged up as the Colts.

Which is actually a good point, we are very much built in the mold of the Colts. They are still winning because they have one of the best QBs ever.

The point we can take from this is that we can keep winning if Campbell keeps playing well. If we doesn't, then it really doesn't matter what we do or how many injuries we have.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;377391]A least we aren't as banged up as the Colts.

Which is actually a good point, we are very much built in the mold of the Colts. They are still winning because they have one of the best QBs ever.[/QUOTE]

Not last night! But I take your point. Still, this is getting redicqulouse... I mean reeedickyoulouse...um, wreidikeaulas...Beem, a little help here!!

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

I have a bad sprain in my ass that Gibbs is giving me.:spank:

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Taylor's injury is the same one (grade II sprain) that kept Samuels out 4 weeks during training camp/preseason. The injuries are just absurd.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=GMScud;377430]Taylor's injury is the same one (grade II sprain) that kept Samuels out 4 weeks during training camp/preseason. The injuries are just absurd.[/QUOTE]

So we likely will not have Taylor back until around the same time that Thomas returns? :frusty:

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=GMScud;377430]Taylor's injury is the same one (grade II sprain) that kept Samuels out 4 weeks during training camp/preseason. The injuries are just absurd.[/quote]


im assuming this was due to conditioning.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;377433]So we likely will not have Taylor back until around the same time that Thomas returns? :frusty:[/quote]


im thinking the same thing

im also thinking thats way too late

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Sean Taylor out at least two weeks according to RI...

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Man, I bet T.O. is breathing a little easier!

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;377346]That would really really hurt (no pun intended) the team if he's out. Time to bring back Andre Lott!

On a related note, whither Omar Stoutmire? On another related note, why is Macklin always inactive? On yet another related note, while Taylor is out do you think maybe we could lock him up for another 10 years or so?[/QUOTE]

I liked Andre Lott, its too bad he didn't work out. Now Im stuck with a few of his auto cards. Is he even in the NFL now? Hell I would give a nut to have Ryan Clark back.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Damn. Well, we're going to have to really make some adjustments now. Come on Sean! Heal up quick!!!!

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

can u say romo has 4 tds wow what else can go wrong! For us to win this game we have to run and run well!!

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;377515]can u say romo has 4 tds wow what else can go wrong! For us to win this game we have to run and run well!![/QUOTE]

Yeah we definitely need to keep the ball out of Romo's hands as much as possible. Drives like we had at the start of the 3rd quarter yesterday are exactly what we need to win...except we need TDs not Field Goals.

This is going to be a tough tough game. I'm looking forward to a good battle.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

Are you guys serious? We have eleven Redskins injured? This is ridiculous! (There ya go JWsleep)

I can understand not blaming injuries when you have a couple of key guys out, but not when you have as many key guys out as we do.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

I'm kind of getting the feeling that maybe it's just not meant to happen this season, which sucks because it will probably mean more transition and more rebuilding. Losing 50 percent of your first team is just too much for a team to endure. Hope I'm wrong.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;377515]can u say romo has 4 tds wow what else can go wrong! For us to win this game [b]we have to run and run well!![/b][/quote]

The part about that is the Cowboys defense has not allowed a 100 yard rusher all season. Jacobs came closest on Sunday with 95 yards.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;377527]Are you guys serious? We have eleven Redskins injured? This is ridiculous! (There ya go JWsleep)

I can understand not blaming injuries when you have a couple of key guys out, but not when you have as many key guys out as we do.[/QUOTE]

It looks like we have [I]up to [/I]11 guys out. Washington, Taylor, Rogers, Jansen, Thomas, Moss, Smoot, Griffin, McIntosh, Thrash, and ARE are all out or are battling injuries. Of course, Moss, Smoot, Griffin, ARE and McIntosh will likely be in the lineup come Sunday. Nevertheless, if someone told me Washington, Taylor, Rogers, Thomas, Jansen, Moss, and Thrash were going to be out of more than few games, I'd tell them we'd have a 6-10 season on our hands.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

sandy, about time for that trend to end, CP's comin to town. 100+ comin up!

Yea this really stinks losing ST & JT thats all we need another big key player/players out. Those are aweful big shoes to fill in ST.

I hope the team can buckle down and play 60 minutes of ball on both sides, and have a great day on special teams, Rock has been doing really well on kick off returns.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;377536]It looks like we have [I]up to [/I]11 guys out. Washington, Taylor, Rogers, Jansen, Thomas, Moss, Smoot, Griffin, McIntosh, Thrash, and ARE are all out or are battling injuries. Of course, Moss, Smoot, Griffin, ARE and McIntosh will likely be in the lineup come Sunday. Nevertheless, if someone told me Washington, Taylor, Rogers, Thomas, Jansen, Moss, and Thrash were going to be out of more than few games, I'd tell them we'd have a 6-10 season on our hands.[/QUOTE]

I just don't understand how we are getting beat up so much. I'm wondering if the "do you're own thing" back during the summer was a bad thing for our players? I know people have said the Indy is in bad shape with injuries as well, but look at them, they've lost two in a row. So, I'd definitely say injuries are definitely a huge reason why we're struggling to stay above .500 right now. On the flipside though, it's also a blessing. At least our backups are getting playing time and getting a chance to develop. I hate talking about next year (because we are still very much in things this year,) but you'd think we should have a pretty solid team with depth next season.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=skinsguy;377527]Are you guys serious? We have eleven Redskins injured? This is ridiculous! (There ya go JWsleep)[/QUOTE]

Ah! Sweet! I agree: it's Ridiculous.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;377532]The part about that is the Cowboys defense has not allowed a 100 yard rusher all season. Jacobs came closest on Sunday with 95 yards.[/QUOTE]

Well Thomas Jones was the only one to do so against the Eagles before yesterday so...

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

God himself would get injured if he were a Redskin, just because.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;377553]Well Thomas Jones was the only one to do so against the Eagles before yesterday so...[/QUOTE]

I wonder if Portis' success against a good run D had anything to do with the coaches putting the ball in JC's hands a little more. Seriously, that's not a rhetorical question. Common sense would indicate yes, but sometimes reality defies common sense.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;377557]I wonder if Portis' success against a good run D had anything to do with the coaches putting the ball in JC's hands a little more. Seriously, that's not a rhetorical question. Common sense would indicate yes, but sometimes reality defies common sense.[/QUOTE]


I think it goes hand in hand. Portis having more success running the football has in turn given Campbell more confidence and success in the passing department. The same can be said about Campbell giving Portis confidence. I'm seeing at least two guys on that offense (Campbell and Portis) who I feel are true Redskins. Seeing Portis as down as he was after the Eagles loss tells me it's not just about numbers, it's about the team.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;377557]I wonder if Portis' success against a good run D had anything to do with the coaches putting the ball in JC's hands a little more. Seriously, that's not a rhetorical question. Common sense would indicate yes, but sometimes reality defies common sense.[/quote]

I think a lot of it has to do with the offensive line getting into a groove a little. With the injuries up front, there were initially 5 guys that were kinda thrown together, patchwork kind of, because of injuries to the starters. Now that they have a few games under their belts they are starting to gel a bit.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=skinsguy;377569]I think it goes hand in hand. Portis having more success running the football has in turn given Campbell more confidence and success in the passing department. The same can be said about Campbell giving Portis confidence. I'm seeing at least two guys on that offense (Campbell and Portis) who I feel are true Redskins. Seeing Portis as down as he was after the Eagles loss tells me it's not just about numbers, it's about the team.[/quote]

I would say Randy Thomas, Samuels, Jansen, and definitely Mike Sellers are also "true Redskins."

As far as Portis' success equating to the passing game, well sure. If a team is forced to respect the pass, it's gonna draw that 8th and maybe even 7th man out of the box and make running easier.

I think Portis' recent success has to do with 3 main factors:
1) He's finally healthy and in game shape after missing basically the entire offseason, a lot of camp, and the whole preseason.
2) The O-line is finally gelling after all the early injuries
3) The passing game is getting on track.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[QUOTE=GMScud;377579]I would say Randy Thomas, Samuels, Jansen, and definitely Mike Sellers are also "true Redskins."

As far as Portis' success equating to the passing game, well sure. If a team is forced to respect the pass, it's gonna draw that 8th and maybe even 7th man out of the box and make running easier.

I think Portis' recent success has to do with 3 main factors:
1) He's finally healthy and in game shape after missing basically the entire offseason, a lot of camp, and the whole preseason.
2) The O-line is finally gelling after all the early injuries
3) The passing game is getting on track.[/QUOTE]


I agree with you in terms of the OL guys, and Mike Sellers...especially Sellers. I do agree that Portis appears to be finally healthy and the OL is coming together. And certainly the passing attack is getting on track. What made me feel Portis is truly a team guy and a true Redskin is to see how down he was after the loss against Philly. You can tell he really wanted this game. I don't believe it was because he had such a great day....well I mean, that probably had some to do with it. I just believe he, along with the guys you mentioned are here to see this team succeed.

Re: Bad news on Taylor (no MRI yet, though)--from JLC
 

[quote=skinsguy;377586]I agree with you in terms of the OL guys, and Mike Sellers...especially Sellers. I do agree that Portis appears to be finally healthy and the OL is coming together. And certainly the passing attack is getting on track. What made me feel Portis is truly a team guy and a true Redskin is to see how down he was after the loss against Philly. You can tell he really wanted this game. I don't believe it was because he had such a great day....well I mean, that probably had some to do with it. I just believe he, along with the guys you mentioned are here to see this team succeed.[/quote]

I agree it was nice to see him internalize things a bit. Aside from his little Thursday costume parties, his football related responses to the media are usually pretty generic. He should be a team leader. I know he's the comedian, but it's good to see him that affected by a loss. Hopefully that will translate to some leadership from him and continued hard work.