Is the defensive line back?
 

They've been missing the last 4 weeks, and over that time period the run defense fell from 4th in efficiency to 21st. This week, they played a great game, shut down all of Barber's room to run, and pressured Romo.

Is the DL back, or was this just a one game thing?

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They are better than last year. But not good enough to be dominate. Our D-line is just average.

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I guess we'll see next week where they are headed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;380264]They are better than last year. But not good enough to be dominate. Our D-line is just average.[/quote]They stepped up yesterday against Barber, and they've been better overall than I thought they would be going into the season. Montgomery has been a major find. Add an excellent two way DE in the draft, and this DL will be better than average next season. Imagine if we had a guy like Ware? How about Umenyiora? To think we could have drafted either just plain hurts.

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Were we watching the same game? The DL didnt get any pressure, Romo had all day, you have to hold the ball for quite a while in order to throw 50 yard bombs.

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The one person I was really worried about yesterday was Barber, and they shut him down, so terms of run defense, they played very well. I'm still not sold on the front four being relied on to apply pressure though. Carter is the only real threat, so if he's contained, they'll get zero to one sack a game like yesterday.

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[quote=Stacks42;380274]Were we watching the same game? The DL didnt get any pressure, Romo had all day, you have to hold the ball for quite a while in order to throw 50 yard bombs.[/quote]I said they stepped up and stopped Barber, which very few teams have all season. I agree that we need to get more pressure from the front four, hence the comment to draft a great 2-way DE.

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[quote=Stacks42;380274]Were we watching the same game? The DL didnt get any pressure, Romo had all day, you have to hold the ball for quite a while in order to throw 50 yard bombs.[/quote]No. You can throw a bomb right off the five step drop if no one picks up the receiver. That's what was happening yesterday.

The secondary has to pick up the receivers running deep, at least initially to try to delay the throw. Can't blame the line for that.

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[quote=SouperMeister;380277]I said they stepped up and stopped Barber, which very few teams have all season. I agree that we need to get more pressure from the front four, hence the comment to draft a great 2-way DE.[/quote]


So would you say that the dallas D line did a great job too since C. Portis only got 36 yards? Nope. both teams forgot about the run and got into a shoot out through the air.

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[quote=SouperMeister;380271]They stepped up yesterday against Barber, and they've been better overall than I thought they would be going into the season. Montgomery has been a major find. Add an excellent two way DE in the draft, and this DL will be better than average next season. Imagine if we had a guy like Ware? How about Umenyiora? To think we could have drafted either just plain hurts.[/quote]

Montgomery is only going to get better. That was a real nice find by the FO. But we need somone in the worst way coming off the edge that can create some havoc. And right now we just don't have anybody.

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[quote=Stacks42;380291]So would you say that the dallas D line did a great job too since C. Portis only got 36 yards? Nope. both teams forgot about the run and got into a shoot out through the air.[/quote]Yes, I would also say that the Dallas front 7 did a great job on Portis. His 3 yard average per carry had something to do with Saunders abandoning the run, plus Campbell was moving the ball through the air with greater efficiency. The key to beating Dallas is forcing Roy Williams to have to cover somebody. As soon as you allow Williams to play like another linebacker, you're playing into their hands.

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[quote=SouperMeister;380277]I said they stepped up and stopped Barber, which very few teams have all season. I agree that we need to get more pressure from the front four, hence the comment to draft a great 2-way DE.[/quote]

Soupmeister - how about drafting Chris Long of Virginia?

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[quote=Bill B;380311]Soupmeister - how about drafting Chris Long of Virginia?[/quote]Long would be a PERFECT fit. No pun intended, but he will be LONG gone by the time we're on the clock. The scary thing, New England might be in position to get Long since they own SF's 1st round pick.

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there were times yesterday when the redskins had Colson, Montgomery, Carter, and Wilson on the field together. all on the younger side. and then they would use Evans. they are trying to get younger, and they played OK against a good Dallas oline

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[quote=SouperMeister;380318]Long would be a PERFECT fit. No pun intended, but he will be LONG gone by the time we're on the clock. The scary thing, New England might be in position to get Long since they own SF's 1st round pick.[/quote]

You think so? Is he a top 15 pick?

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I'll be the first to get back to ya on this one right AFTER we finish the game NEXT Sunday...in Tampa.

As they did look decent yesterday, we still came out with a tough LOSE.

I'll hold judgement till next week, see if they can do their job and come home with a WIN......?

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;380665]You think so? Is he a top 15 pick?[/QUOTE]

Long will either be the first or second defensive lineman taken. He will either go ahead of or behind Glenn Dorsey.

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[quote=jdlea;380677]Long will either be the first or second defensive lineman taken. He will either go ahead of or behind Glenn Dorsey.[/quote]Dorsey may be the #1 overall, and I could easily see both Dorsey and Long in the top 5 selected. This is a very strong draft for QBs (Brohm, Woodson, and Ryan) so that may affect the top of the draft depending on needs of the teams drafting at the top. Long looks like a great 3-4 DE, so New England is probably salivating.

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[quote=skinsfan69;380665]You think so? Is he a top 15 pick?[/quote]
Definately a top 5.

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I don't think Long would fit our defense. I see Long as more of a 3-4 DE.

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It seems like our D-line is stellar when we have Rogers and ST playing coverage. Nobody was complaining about our pass rush then. Now all of a sudden it is an issue again. Nobody is going to get pressure if the QB has huge holes in a defense to throw at. Keep talking trash about the Dline if you want, but I am more worried about our secondary. We started off the year with one of the most solid secondary's in the game, now we are just average. Thank you once again mr. injury bug.

Dear Santa, would you please tell Mr. Injury Bug to leave our entire team alone next season? If it is not possible, then at least stop taking out entire units at a time such as the offensive line, the secondary, and our WR corps.

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The d-line was effective early in the season but regressed a bit in the four or so games leading up to Dallas, in which they did a great job stopping the run. Basically, I just repeated what you all said up to this pt, but I did it because I think Grif was the reason. He was dinged up w/ a back strain but seemed to have his mojo for Dallas.

The only weakness I see in the d-line is inconsistancy, especially not being able to stop the run [B]and[/B] pressure the passer simultaneously. If Carter can get on another hot streak for the final six games and the rest stay healthy... good things people, good things.

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[quote=GTripp0012;380262]They've been missing the last 4 weeks, and over that time period the run defense fell from 4th in efficiency to 21st. This week, they played a great game, shut down all of Barber's room to run, and pressured Romo.

Is the DL back, or was this just a one game thing?[/quote]

The DL was weak in Dallas. They looked ok in the first half because Dallas had a bad snap and other fluke driver stoppers. They were helpless in the second half, obviously. We've got to score 30 to beat Tampa Bay.

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Kiper has Chris Long as the third best player in the draft.

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[QUOTE=Stacks42;380274]Were we watching the same game? The DL didnt get any pressure, Romo had all day, you have to hold the ball for quite a while in order to throw 50 yard bombs.[/QUOTE]

apparently you and i saw the samething...romo had all day..

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I'd say that our defensive line is certainly performing better than last year, but that only brings them up to 'average'. Like someone else said, Carter is the only guy who gives us some semblance of pressure, and he is often neutralized.

The only time Tom Brady had problems was in Indianapolis, when Freeney and the rest of the Colts front four applied consistent pressure without having to blitz. And that's the key -- be able to get constant pressure from the two defensive ends, and leave everyone else in pass coverage. If I were the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins, I'd spend everything I have to find guys who can get in Brady's face.