Peter King on The Skins - Future Cap Trouble
 

Here is Peter king on Joe Gibbs and the Redskins. as good as we looked against Dallas the impending cap problems that King points out is what I am worried about. Maybe Schneed can give a better clarification, but being 19.5 million over the 2008 cap looks pretty gloomy.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/11/18/week11/7.html]SI.com - Writers - Monday Morning QB (cont.) - Monday November 19, 2007 9:05AM[/url]

Here is Peter Kings take on Gibbs:
"2. I think the second life of [B]Joe Gibbs[/B] running the Redskins might not end well. Gibbs is 6-10, 10-6, 5-11 and now 5-5 in his four seasons in his second stint as Washington coach. A 26-32 regular-season record. One playoff win. Of the Redskins' final six games this year, five are against teams harboring playoff hopes. Gibbs turns 67 in six days. He doesn't answer the questions about how much longer he'll coach, but it won't be surprising to anyone at Redskins Park if this is it for him. I've gotten the sense that, regardless the outcome of this season, this is it for him.
If it is, there's a pretty big problem on the horizon for Washington. There is only one team with less than $5 million in 2008 cap room left as we stand right now, and that team, to no one's surprise, is Washington. It would be understandable if the 'Skins were a few bucks north or south of the $116-million cap figure for 2008, but the Redskins are miles away from that. They are $19.5 million OVER the 2008 cap as we sit here this morning. That means they're $25 million worse-off than any team in the NFL entering the offseason.
Some of this can be cosmetically addressed, like converting a sizable roster bonus due to tight end [B]Chris Cooley[/B] in 2008, which would be payable all in 2008, to a signing bonus, which would pro-rate it over the life of his contract. That's fine, except all that does is continually push more and more financial obligation into the future. There's significant dead weight on this cap. If they choose to cut unimportant wideout [B]Brandon Lloyd[/B], that would cost them $7.1 million in cap charges on the '08 ledger.
Moral of the story: If Gibbs quits at season's end, would [B]Bill Cowher[/B], who'll likely want to make significant personnel changes wherever he goes to coach, want to go to a place where he's fighting 31 other teams plus the Redskins' bloated cap? (I think Cowher is likely to stay at CBS for another year anyway, but that's not set in stone.) The cap situation may contribute to owner [B]Dan Snyder[/B] wanting to hire from within, with either [B]Gregg Williams[/B] or [B]Al Saunders[/B]. Williams is more likely if Snyder stays in-house.'

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This is what happens when you don't re-sign your own prior to their hitting free agency, then throwing huge dollars at garbage like Lloyd and Archuleta. The FO will have a busy offseason restructuring deals. The cap situation dictates that this offseason will be a very prudent (read quiet) free agency period for the Skins.

I've always preferred that they build more through the draft anyway - that's where you get players on the cheap if you draft well.

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Steve Czaban brought this up a few weeks ago on First Team...He used TO as an example...TO is obviously doing a good job with the Cowpukes right now...but more importantly as the years go by, his salary decreases...that's what good teams do.

Brandon Lloyd on the other hand has contributed 0 to the 'skins, yet the longer he hangs around he gets paid more...thats what bad teams do.

Our future sucks cap-wise...I hope Gibbs/Danny/Cerrato/whoever is in charge can find a way to get us out of this mess and learn from these mistakes the lack of Cap room could hurt us when we try to resign Campbell and some of these other good young guys we've discovered.

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We haven't been building a team for the future for quite some time. Even with Gibbs he's been going after a lot of veterans that require big money and don't have a ton of tread left on the tires. The skins management massages the cap perhaps better than any NFL team, but eventually we're either going to have to totally break the ship down and rebuild, or start soon with frugal moves and the draft.

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[quote=squrrelco3;380316]Steve Czaban brought this up a few weeks ago on First Team...He used TO as an example...TO is obviously doing a good job with the Cowpukes right now...but more importantly as the years go by, his salary decreases...that's what good teams do.

Brandon Lloyd on the other hand has contributed 0 to the 'skins, yet the longer he hangs around he gets paid more...thats what bad teams do.

Our future sucks cap-wise...I hope Gibbs/Danny/Cerrato/whoever is in charge can find a way to get us out of this mess and learn from these mistakes the lack of Cap room could hurt us when we try to resign Campbell and some of these other good young guys we've discovered.[/quote]The best way out of this mess is to suck it up and STOP throwing money at glitz. For all the free agents that Snyder/Gibbs have brought in, ZERO have made the Pro Bowl as Redskins. Fletcher may change that, but we need a profound change in how we approach the draft. It must be viewed as the primary way to build a team. I believe that we're finally starting to hold onto mid-round picks, but we still owe Denver a 2008 4th for Duckett.

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I'd rather hear from some of our cap heads on this before I start getting too worked up about it.

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Definitely not getting too worked up over this right now. That being said, I think guys like Griffin and Daniels are on the bubble next year. Those two alone will free up some dollars I would imagine.

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I think this was just reprint of what he said last year and the year before just changed a few of the names.

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[quote=12thMan;380331]Definitely not getting too worked up over this right now. That being said, I think guys like Griffin and Daniels are on the bubble next year. Those two alone will free up some dollars I would imagine.[/quote]At least Griffin and Daniels contribute still. We have guys like Lloyd and Brunell eating significant cap while sitting on the bench. I'd prefer to clean house of high priced non-contributors (which would force additional cuts), take our lumps for a year, then start with a much healthier cap situation.

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[quote=firstdown;380335]I think this was just reprint of what he said last year and the year before just changed a few of the names.[/quote]

LOL yeah probably, don't we hear this same crap every year?

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I'm going to list the ways to get the cap number down. You can debate the merit of making certain moves on this list, but if we don't cut a certain player, you can bet we'd restructure them, which would also save some money.

[B]Expected Roster Cuts:[/B]
Phillip Daniels - [B]$3.0 [/B]million saved
Mark Brunell - [B]$3.4[/B] million saved
[U][B]Total Savings for Cuts: $6.4 million[/B][/U]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Randy Thomas - $4.3 million saved
Clinton Portis - $3.8 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.7 million saved
Chris Samuels - $3.4 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.8 million saved
Santana Moss - $2.4 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.8 million saved
[B][U]Total Salary Restructure Savings: $22.2 million[/U][/B]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
[B][U]Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $5.2 million[/U][/B]

So I see ways to reduce our 2008 cap number by about $34 million. So do I think armageddon is coming next year? NO.

But I wouldn't go making ALL of the moves I listed above, either. We're starting to push a little too much into the future. And if we get rid of Brandon Lloyd, that move will eat up some more space.

Bottom line, we won't have to dismantle the team, but we won't have lots of flexibility, either. We'll need to draft very well.

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[quote=SouperMeister;380336]At least Griffin and Daniels contribute still. We have guys like Lloyd and Brunell eating significant cap while sitting on the bench. I'd prefer to clean house of high priced non-contributors (which would force additional cuts), take our lumps for a year, then start with a much healthier cap situation.[/quote]

Forgot about him. Brunell is definitley gone. Or at least he'd better be.

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Brunell will probably retire.

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[quote=Schneed10;380341]I'm going to list the ways to get the cap number down. You can debate the merit of making certain moves on this list, but if we don't cut a certain player, you can bet we'd restructure them, which would also save some money.

[B]Expected Roster Cuts:[/B]
Phillip Daniels - [B]$3.0 [/B]million saved
Mark Brunell - [B]$3.4[/B] million saved
[U][B]Total Savings for Cuts: $6.4 million[/B][/U]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Randy Thomas - $4.3 million saved
Clinton Portis - $3.8 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.7 million saved
Chris Samuels - $3.4 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.8 million saved
Santana Moss - $2.4 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.8 million saved
[B][U]Total Salary Restructure Savings: $22.2 million[/U][/B]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
[B][U]Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $5.2 million[/U][/B]

So I see ways to reduce our 2008 cap number by about $34 million. So do I think armageddon is coming next year? NO.

But I wouldn't go making ALL of the moves I listed above, either. We're starting to push a little too much into the future. And if we get rid of Brandon Lloyd, that move will eat up some more space.

Bottom line, we won't have to dismantle the team, but we won't have lots of flexibility, either. We'll need to draft very well.[/quote]

Sounds like a typical Redskins offseason.

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We could save $1.6 million by cutting Griffin. This would take him off our books for the future.

Or we could save $2.8 million by restructuring him. This would not only keep him on our books for the future, but would increase the cap charges in that year. So definitely a catch 22 with him.

On Daniels, he's probably a goner. There's opportunity to save $3.0 million by cutting him. Or save $1.4 million by restructuring him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;380351]Sounds like a typical Redskins offseason.[/quote]

Yep. The sky is not falling, the world is not ending, the band is not breaking up.

In 2009 we could see a major shakeup, though I'll hold final judgment on that until I see what the Skins actually do in 2008.

Any renegotiations with Jason Campbell and/or Sean Taylor could obviously impact the numbers as well.

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General note, I'm happy to take questions on this stuff, as always.

But if you want to wait until the offseason, I'd certainly understand. After all, we've got a playoff race to win!

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[quote=Schneed10;380341]I'm going to list the ways to get the cap number down. You can debate the merit of making certain moves on this list, but if we don't cut a certain player, you can bet we'd restructure them, which would also save some money.

[B]Expected Roster Cuts:[/B]
Phillip Daniels - [B]$3.0 [/B]million saved
Mark Brunell - [B]$3.4[/B] million saved
[U][B]Total Savings for Cuts: $6.4 million[/B][/U]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Randy Thomas - $4.3 million saved
Clinton Portis - $3.8 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.7 million saved
Chris Samuels - $3.4 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.8 million saved
Santana Moss - $2.4 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.8 million saved
[B][U]Total Salary Restructure Savings: $22.2 million[/U][/B]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
[B][U]Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $5.2 million[/U][/B]

So I see ways to reduce our 2008 cap number by about $34 million. So do I think armageddon is coming next year? NO.

But I wouldn't go making ALL of the moves I listed above, either. We're starting to push a little too much into the future. And if we get rid of Brandon Lloyd, that move will eat up some more space.

Bottom line, we won't have to dismantle the team, but we won't have lots of flexibility, either. We'll need to draft very well.[/quote]Great analysis Schneed - I'm feeling a little better. I hope that we restructure well to keep the core group together for another year - this team will make some noise next year. The draft will be key to replacing guys like Daniels (assuming he's cut) and building depth for an aging O-line.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;380351]Sounds like a typical Redskins offseason.[/QUOTE]
Except we actually have most of our draft picks..

Typical annual media 'Redskins are in pending cap hell' blurb.. Remember how before the labor agreement we were going to have to field like 33 rookies or something foolish like that?

While silly things like consistently winning or making the playoffs in consecutive years seem to escape the Redskins braintrust, circumventing the salary cap is the one thing that we do better than anyone else in the NFL. :)

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[quote=Schneed10;380341]I'm going to list the ways to get the cap number down. You can debate the merit of making certain moves on this list, but if we don't cut a certain player, you can bet we'd restructure them, which would also save some money.

[B]Expected Roster Cuts:[/B]
Phillip Daniels - [B]$3.0 [/B]million saved
Mark Brunell - [B]$3.4[/B] million saved
[U][B]Total Savings for Cuts: $6.4 million[/B][/U]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Base Salary, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Randy Thomas - $4.3 million saved
Clinton Portis - $3.8 million saved
Jon Jansen - $3.7 million saved
Chris Samuels - $3.4 million saved
Cornelius Griffin - $2.8 million saved
Santana Moss - $2.4 million saved
Casey Rabach - $1.8 million saved
[B][U]Total Salary Restructure Savings: $22.2 million[/U][/B]

[B]Keeping These Players, Restructuring 2008 Roster Bonuses, Prorating over Remaining life of Contract:[/B]
Ladell Betts - $1.7 million saved
Clinton Portis - $0.4 million saved
Andre Carter - $1.9 million saved
Antwaan Randle-El - $1.2 million saved
[B][U]Total Bonus Restructure Savings: $5.2 million[/U][/B]

So I see ways to reduce our 2008 cap number by about $34 million. So do I think armageddon is coming next year? NO.

But I wouldn't go making ALL of the moves I listed above, either. We're starting to push a little too much into the future. And if we get rid of Brandon Lloyd, that move will eat up some more space.

Bottom line, we won't have to dismantle the team, but we won't have lots of flexibility, either. We'll need to draft very well.[/quote]

Very good post. Every year somebody always says that The Redskins are in cap hell. And every year they re-structure the cap and go out and sign guys.

Peter King is a tool. I'll never ever forget when Old Ball Coach got hired and King said Danny Weurfel (sp?) was going to be the next Kurt Warner. I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

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Good posts. I would like to think that our Capogists at Redskins Park already know this and have a good plan to work our way thru.

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[quote=Mattyk72;380326]I'd rather hear from some of our cap heads on this before I start getting too worked up about it.[/quote]

agreed...there really isn't anything wrong with the Snyder system AT FACE VALUE (not advocating for it, just making a point)...you can continue to pay a lot of money (hopefully wiser moving forward), if you can get players to defer payment this year for guaranteed future payments. Synder can continue this scheme into perpetuity so long as he owns the team- we get into trouble when we get a regime/strategy change (which doesn't seem likely)...

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[quote=redsk1;380366]Good posts. I would like to think that our Capogists at Redskins Park already know this and have a good plan to work our way thru.[/quote]

You bet they do, they've been executing this exact plan for four years now. The growth in the salary cap each year mitigates the consequences of pushing cap hits into the future.

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Here's a stupid question. What if we were to pull a NY Yankees and just give the finger to the Salary Cap? Is there a luxury tax? Are you not allowed to sign any other players until you're under the cap? Would Goodell just come in and shoot Danny?

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[quote=skinsfan69;380364]Very good post. Every year somebody always says that The Redskins are in cap hell. And every year they re-structure the cap and go out and sign guys.

Peter King is a tool. I'll never ever forget when Old Ball Coach got hired and King said Danny Weurfel (sp?) was going to be the next Kurt Warner. I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth.[/quote]

One thing about writers... they're not trained as accountants or financial analysts. Peter King's a pretty smart guy and I actually have a lot of respect for him, but in the end, he's trained to write.

That's why it's so hard to find any writers out there who actually understand the cap. If any of them make any comments on the Skins cap situation, it's always wise to take it with a grain of salt.

Hit up the Warpath's cap page, because CC has all the info right there. I'll be here to analyze it and such. La Canfora usually has valid information, but that's because he's referencing someone (an accountant) who keeps the numbers very tightly. If you see La Canfora starting to muse about what the Skins could do, take it with a grain. If you see him stating what the numbers look like, then that piece is reliable.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;380374]Here's a stupid question. What if we were to pull a NY Yankees and just give the finger to the Salary Cap? Is there a luxury tax? Are you not allowed to sign any other players until you're under the cap? Would Goodell just come in and shoot Danny?[/quote]

The NFL's salary cap is a hard cap.

In baseball, the consequences for being over the cap is a luxury tax. If you want to be over the cap, you just have to pony up the bucks in taxes. Same in the NBA.

But in the NFL, teams are required to stay under the cap. It's a hard cap. I've never seen a team violate this, so I'm not sure what the consequences are, but I believe they are severe, like forfeiting lots of draft picks.

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Springs is pretty much a goner too, IMO. Todd Wade has a high cap number for a backup, although he's likely safe one more year.

Springs saves a million or so this year, but more importantly, takes him off the books for the future.

The biggest deal this year is that we simply won't have the money to go out next season and make a splash in free agency. No longer will we be able to outbid other teams for talent.

However, we should have no issue keeping the contributors around for the foreseeable future. The only way we can improve this team though is with the development of young talent.

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[quote=GTripp0012;380381]Springs is pretty much a goner too, IMO. Todd Wade has a high cap number for a backup, although he's likely safe one more year.

Springs saves a million or so this year, but more importantly, takes him off the books for the future.

The biggest deal this year is that we simply won't have the money to go out next season and make a splash in free agency. No longer will we be able to outbid other teams for talent.

However, we should have no issue keeping the contributors around for the foreseeable future. The only way we can improve this team though is with the development of young talent.[/quote]

You hit it right on the money. Perhaps we can add some guys through FA here and there. And some of the draft picks in 08 pan out. But the young core guys like JC, Heyer, Cooley, Rocky, Carlos, Landry, Montgomery, and so on, all of these guys are just going to have to get better and play better.

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If you haven't read my thread from March, I feel that the information I put in it is still very relevant to the Skins current situation:

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/17423-next-years-cap-situation.html[/url]

The Redskins, however, have definitely made moves for the future since then designed to getting dead cap guys off our books for next season. You can bet your bottom dollar that Springs and Lloyd will follow to get their cap numbers off the books for 2009 and 2010. My $20 million figure is pretty much in line with King's figure.

Since then, Cooley has been resigned.

My main point from that post still remains: getting respected veteran FA help from other teams is not plausible. Signings like Randall Godfrey, who was a consistent contributor for a bunch of teams before coming here, are still plausible. But bringing in guys like London Fletcher and Fred Smoot simply won't be happening this offseason. Just not enough cap dollars available to lure them here.

Plus, getting rid of Lloyd is so much more important.

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[quote=skinsfan69;380392]You hit it right on the money. Perhaps we can add some guys through FA here and there. And some of the draft picks in 08 pan out. But the young core guys like JC, Heyer, Cooley, Rocky, Carlos, Landry, Montgomery, and so on, all of these guys are just going to have to get better and play better.[/quote]Yep.

The big question going into next year is can the development of those select young guys offset or even exceed the decline of the steady vets on this team?

Based on position value, such as Quarterback, I would argue that yes, they will offset them.

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EVERY year, I hear we will be in CAP HELL. NEVER HAPPENS and won't next year so I think we will be OK.

Plus the cap wil probably go up by at LEAST 5 million for next year.

Over by 19.5. Goes up by 5, we can cut 33. Looks like we are 18.5 UNDER next year, Plenty of Room to eat Lloyd's deal.

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if jerry jones can tweak and manipulate the SC like he has in the past,then i know damn well synder and gibbs can find away around it.i could care less what that fat fuck peter king says or prints!

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Peter King hasn't gotten tired of writing this same article ? Every year it's the same ol' song. Sing it with me everyone.

Cap Hell, Cap Hell
Thank the Lord the Skins are headed for Cap Hell !

I mean seriously, haven't these people figured it out. There is no cap hell here, Ever.

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I will believe in the cap boogie man when i see evidence of his existence! This same article pops up every year about the skins just change the year and the author at the top and it's the same. One thing the skins know how to do is bend that cap...what they don't do well is pick the right players to bend it for.

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This is the same stuff we get into every year. I have been singing this song the last couple of seasons with the way we sign contracts and convert salary to bonuses. Every time they restructure the deals, the money is pushed to the future. Eventually it comes time to pay up. I think they should start taking some hits now in places we can and start drafting and making wiser decisions on FA market. I saw this fact also, we are over that much in the cap with only 40+ players signed.

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[quote=skinsfan242;380414]EVERY year, I hear we will be in CAP HELL. NEVER HAPPENS and won't next year so I think we will be OK.

Plus the cap wil probably go up by at LEAST 5 million for next year.

Over by 19.5. Goes up by 5, we can cut 33. Looks like we are 18.5 UNDER next year, Plenty of Room to eat Lloyd's deal.[/quote]


This is what gets us in trouble every year, pushing larger amounts of money into the future.

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[quote=skinsfan242;380414]EVERY year, I hear we will be in CAP HELL. NEVER HAPPENS and won't next year so I think we will be OK.

Plus the cap wil probably go up by at LEAST 5 million for next year.

Over by 19.5. Goes up by 5, we can cut 33. Looks like we are 18.5 UNDER next year, Plenty of Room to eat Lloyd's deal.[/quote]

IMO I don't think we should eat his deal. As Gtripp said, some of the guys are just going to have to play better. Lloyd is one of them. Personally I would just try and reach out to the guy rather than eat the money.

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[quote=Paintrain;380363]
Typical annual media 'Redskins are in pending cap hell' blurb.. Remember how before the labor agreement we were going to have to field like 33 rookies or something foolish like that?

[/quote]


I agree Paintrain. We hear this every year, and then somehow the Skins get out of it. Not saying that I approve of the FO policy and philosophy (I don't, I think they're idiots for the most part), but as far as managing the salary cap, this is one area where the front office knows what it is doing.

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Same old arguments that are simply wrong. There are two ways to build a roster, both of which work financially fine. Our way is too continually pay large bonuses as salries and then convert them in the year of the salary to spread them out. IT IS WHAT WE DO YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. Contrary to popular belief it doesn't snow ball and it is completely sustainable as long as it is implemented properly every year. We never have real issues with the cap. It is a bogus argument. Our struggles haven't been with the salary cap it has been with the talent evaluation if anything.

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[quote=FRPLG;380457]Same old arguments that are simply wrong. There are two ways to build a roster, both of which work financially fine. Our way is too continually pay large bonuses as salries and then convert them in the year of the salary to spread them out. IT IS WHAT WE DO YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. Contrary to popular belief it doesn't not snow ball and it is completely sustainable as long as it is implemented properly every year. We never have real issues with the cap. It is a bogus argument. Our struggles haven't been with the salary cap it has been with the talent evaluation if anything.[/quote]Yeah, but...

The way we do things, we don't have an allowance for player personnel failure. Signings like Arch and Lloyd greatly compromise the freedom we have within the market.