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NFLNetwork 12-01-2007 01:02 PM

Latest On The Skins Stadium Moving Back To DC???
 
Has there been any recent information on the redskins moving back to DC?? I was just curious because I heard there was progress being made pertaining to them going to back to the RFK???

skins268 12-01-2007 01:08 PM

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I am sure they are Locked into FedEx field for a long time,I doubt they will be going anywhere for a while...on the other hand it would be nice to move the stadium back.

skinsguy 12-01-2007 01:21 PM

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The Redskins are cursed at Fedex. They need to move back to RFK.

Campbell17 12-01-2007 01:24 PM

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The stadium is so big and expensive, we'd lose revenue by downgrading.

wolfeskins 12-01-2007 01:33 PM

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[quote=Campbell17;386494]The stadium is so big and expensive, we'd lose revenue by downgrading.[/quote]


the rumors i've heard has rfk being torn down and snyder building a new stadium on that site, possibly a dome stadium so a superbowl could be played there.

heybigstar 12-01-2007 01:42 PM

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[quote=Campbell17;386494]The stadium is so big and expensive, we'd lose revenue by downgrading.[/quote]


I actually read that the land in pg county where fed ex field is very valuable and that it could be torn down for strip malls and shopping and snyder would do just fine.

Ocliw 12-01-2007 01:59 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;386493]The Redskins are cursed at Fedex. They need to move back to RFK.[/QUOTE]

Im with you. It's just never been the same vibe.

Cowell 12-01-2007 02:04 PM

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I myself never had the privilege of attending a Redskins game at RFK. I have seen old films of how the stadium would shake. But videos just don't do justice to it, I really wish I could have been there. Sadly I was born a few years too late. As for the Skins moving back, I don't think it's going to happen. At least not for the next 5-10 years. I'm sure Danny payed a lot to get that stadium built and I don't think he's just going to give it up after 10 years.

Skinsfan1967 12-01-2007 02:11 PM

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[QUOTE=Cowell;386504]I myself never had the privilege of attending a Redskins game at RFK. I have seen old films of how the stadium would shake. But videos just don't do justice to it, I really wish I could have been there. Sadly I was born a few years too late. As for the Skins moving back, I don't think it's going to happen. At least not for the next 5-10 years. I'm sure Danny payed a lot to get that stadium built and I don't think he's just going to give it up after 10 years.[/QUOTE]


Just a slight correction. Jack Kent Cooke built the stadium, Snyder purchased it along with the team.

SouperMeister 12-01-2007 02:15 PM

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[quote=Cowell;386504]I myself never had the privilege of attending a Redskins game at RFK. I have seen old films of how the stadium would shake. But videos just don't do justice to it, I really wish I could have been there. Sadly I was born a few years too late. As for the Skins moving back, I don't think it's going to happen. At least not for the next 5-10 years. I'm sure Danny payed a lot to get that stadium built and I don't think he's just going to give it up after 10 years.[/quote]I've seen many games at both RFK and FedEx, and without question, RFK was louder with 55,000 fans than FedEx is with 90,000. Probably has more to do with the curved top of RFK than anything. As lucrative as the Skins have been for Snyder, I can definitely see him building a new stadium where RFK stands. One of his big dreams has been to bring a Super Bowl to DC, and I've heard rumors that he would like to build a new stadium with a retractable roof to help make the dream reality. Lastly, Snyder didn't build FedEx field, Jack Kent Cooke did. Snyder made improvements after calling the stadium "a fixer upper", so I don't think he feels overly attached to FedEx.

Cowell 12-01-2007 02:36 PM

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Your right I forgot that Jack Kente Cooke built it, which would explain why it had it's name on it in the beginning. I was at the first game ever played in FedEx Field but I was rather small and probably didn't know much of what was going on (I was in 1st grade or 2nd grade), I still have the tickets though.

CancunCantinaBartender 12-01-2007 03:07 PM

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I have heard from stadium employees that Snyder is planning to move back to DC in 7 years.

SouperMeister 12-01-2007 03:08 PM

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[quote=Cowell;386508]Your right I forgot that Jack Kente Cooke built it, which would explain why it had it's name on it in the beginning. I was at the first game ever played in FedEx Field but I was rather small and probably didn't know much of what was going on (I was in 1st grade or 2nd grade), I still have the tickets though.[/quote]I recall that first game at FedEx - Michael Westbrook caught a TD bomb to win the game in overtime over the Cardinals. Pretty cool that you got to be there live.

SFREDSKIN 12-01-2007 03:12 PM

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins;386496]the rumors i've heard has rfk being torn down and snyder building a new stadium on that site, possibly a dome stadium so a superbowl could be played there.[/QUOTE]

That's what I would do, tear down old RFK with mixed emotions and build a brand new state of the art stadium without a dome. Domes are not real football stadiums, maybe a retractable dome and even so, I still don't like domes.

Cowell 12-01-2007 03:25 PM

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I really hope we don't have a dome. Domes aren't football. I understand a team like Minnesota or Detroit having them because some games you simply couldn't play outside because it would be so could but we don't have that situation. I believe football should be played with the elements. Maybe a retractable roof so we could host a Superbowl.

SouperMeister 12-01-2007 03:27 PM

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[quote=Cowell;386521]I really hope we don't have a dome. Domes aren't football. I understand a team like Minnesota or Detroit having them because some games you simply couldn't play outside because it would be so could but we don't have that situation. I believe football should be played with the elements. Maybe a retractable roof so we could host a Superbowl.[/quote]I've heard rumors that it would be a retractable roof that would allow the field to be natural grass.

SkinDogg 12-01-2007 03:30 PM

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RFK is close to my heart, and without question a louder stadium than FedEx. It also had a better energy, but then maybe it had to do with all the winning. I've been to a few Nationals game, and the minute I walk into the stadium, the memories come back – the playoffs, the championships, the Monday night game when LT broke Joe’s leg, the hailstorm of 55,000 yellow seat cushions after a championship TD. Oh, and the drunk fans on the metro.

Whenever they demolish RFK, I've got a make a plan to get a brick.

wolfeskins 12-01-2007 03:30 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;386519]That's what I would do, tear down old RFK with mixed emotions and build a brand new state of the art stadium without a dome. Domes are not real football stadiums, maybe a retractable dome and even so, I still don't like domes.[/quote]

yea, i don't like domes either. snyder really wants a superbowl though, and that might cuase him to build a dome or a stadium with a retractable roof.

SkinDogg 12-01-2007 03:37 PM

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins;386526]yea, i don't like domes either. snyder really wants a superbowl though, and that might cuase him to build a dome or a stadium with a retractable roof.[/QUOTE]


In light of the outpouring of support and online tributes that Dallas Cowboy fans have extended to us this week, your signature "romo is a homo" is inappropriate, not to mention unoriginal.

BugelDisciple 12-01-2007 03:47 PM

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I would love to see the Skins move back to DC. The rumors I've heard is a 125,000 seat stadium, with a retractable roof on the current RFK site. That would be awesome. The site of RFK is easily assessable for all Skins fans and direct metro access is much more accommodating and the atmosphere at FedEx is not that great.

Beemnseven 12-01-2007 03:50 PM

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Well, there's no question that FedEx Field has never meant "Home Field Advantage" to the Redskins. Since the stadium has opened, they are just as likely to lose there as they are away.

But when you think about it, there's really only one truly intimidating stadium I can think of, and that's Quest Field where the Seahawks play. Every other place is tough only because the team is tough.

Cowell 12-01-2007 03:53 PM

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I don't Oakland has the Black Hole, Philly is tough, and Arrowhead is tough to play in too.

Beemnseven 12-01-2007 03:59 PM

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Other than the 2002 season, nobody's been intimidated to play at Oakland since the 1970's. And the Raiders just beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Those places, along with Philly are known to have pretty roudy fans, but besides that, I don't know if they really fit the "intimidating" label.

I know one thing, Fed Ex doesn't come anywhere near that label. Assemble yourself a better team that always wins at home, then your stadium is suddenly tough to play at.

SouperMeister 12-01-2007 04:15 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;386535]Other than the 2002 season, nobody's been intimidated to play at Oakland since the 1970's. And the Raiders just beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Those places, along with Philly are known to have pretty roudy fans, but besides that, I don't know if they really fit the "intimidating" label.

I know one thing, Fed Ex doesn't come anywhere near that label. Assemble yourself a better team that always wins at home, then your stadium is suddenly tough to play at.[/quote]The big thing about RFK was the decible level. I went to a game against the Giants in the 80's where Dexter Manley had 4 sacks during two three-and-out series. The poor Giants left offensive tackle had [B]zero[/B] chance of hearing a snap count, so he lost any edge as Dexter blew by him play after play. RFK was a scary place for other teams during those days.

Giantone 12-01-2007 04:18 PM

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[quote=BugelDisciple;386531]I would love to see the Skins move back to DC. The rumors I've heard is a 125,000 seat stadium, with a retractable roof on the current RFK site. That would be awesome. The site of RFK is easily assessable for all Skins fans and direct metro access is much more accommodating and the atmosphere at FedEx is not that great.[/quote]


Can't happen for at least 20 years .It would cost the Danny one hell of alot of money to get out of Maryland.

DFI 12-01-2007 05:35 PM

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[quote=Cowell;386508]Your right I forgot that Jack Kente Cooke built it, which would explain why it had it's name on it in the beginning. I was at the first game ever played in FedEx Field but I was rather small and probably didn't know much of what was going on (I was in 1st grade or 2nd grade), I still have the tickets though.[/quote]

if memory serves it wasn't named for Cooke until after he died. RFK was great. many memories there, I personaly would hate to see it go. I grew up seeing the old Diplomats play soccer there, the skins and the Dead every summer. that place is part of my life. I understand the need for progress and realize that it can't stand forever. But I will be sad when it is gone.

On another note. Back in October while on the metro on my way with my son to his first game, we came out of the ground right by RFK and he asked what it was, I told him what it was and shared some memories, which sparked the whole car and everyone was talking about RFK memories the rest of the ride.

Sammy Baugh Fan 12-01-2007 05:38 PM

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The Stadium was named "Redskins Stadium" by JKC. After his death it was changed to Jack Kente Cooke Stadium by his son. Snyder changed it to Fed/Ex Stadium.

RFK was louder and more fun I think and the Stadium and Team needs to come back to Wash DC. Tear down the old RFK build a stadium like Dallas is and attract the Super Bowl. Sell the old stadium and land for zillions.

Daseal 12-01-2007 06:49 PM

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Yeah, knock down RFK, and erect Sean Taylor Field in its place.

Darrell_Green_28 12-01-2007 06:55 PM

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Think its a requirement to have a covered field for a SuperBowl.. So Danny would have to either build a dome or a stadium with a retractable roof to have a chance at his dream.

Daseal 12-01-2007 07:15 PM

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Yep the suits at the NFL are scared to death of a game being uncomfortable for folks (businesses) so you better either be a warm weather destination or have a dome.

coggs 12-01-2007 09:04 PM

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The Super Bowl is not about football fans, it is about the corporate sponsors who pay lots of money throughout the year to have their names plastered over everything.

coggs 12-01-2007 09:06 PM

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[QUOTE=BugelDisciple;386531]The site of RFK is easily assessable for all Skins fans [/QUOTE]
Really? Two summers ago I was in DC for an afternoon, fiancee and I took a detour to see the sites after being in Quantico. We were going to go to a Nationals game, but gave up after driving around for about 45 minutes looking for the stadium. We didnt have directions, was a last minute decision, just a sign for the stadium, followed it, but then no more signs, and no stadium.

atomicnixon 12-01-2007 10:52 PM

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[quote=Cowell;386504]I myself never had the privilege of attending a Redskins game at RFK. I have seen old films of how the stadium would shake. But videos just don't do justice to it, I really wish I could have been there. Sadly I was born a few years too late. As for the Skins moving back, I don't think it's going to happen. At least not for the next 5-10 years. I'm sure Danny payed a lot to get that stadium built and I don't think he's just going to give it up after 10 years.[/quote]

Not to be an ass, but Mr. Cooke built it.

htownskinfan 12-02-2007 12:25 AM

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I would have to say if I died tommorrow one of my biggest regrets would be not seeing the skins at RFK,the only time I've ever been there was to see "The Who" on their supposed last tour in 89

SouperMeister 12-02-2007 01:16 AM

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[quote=htownskinfan;386659]I would have to say if I died tommorrow one of my biggest regrets would be not seeing the skins at RFK,the only time I've ever been there was to see "The Who" on their supposed last tour in 89[/quote]I attended that concert too! My wife was 6 months pregnant with our first child - I joke with my daughter that The Who was her first concert ;-)

Bill B 12-02-2007 07:07 AM

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[quote=SouperMeister;386523]I've heard rumors that it would be a retractable roof that would allow the field to be natural grass.[/quote]

Soupmeister - they could have a field like the Arizona Cardinals that literally rolls in under the stadium from the outside, although I think Synder would do a retractable roof so he could open up the stadium on nice days. If a new stadium is built you can gurantee it will be a dome and most likely a retractable roof - having the Superbowl here is just too big a draw not to do it. One other thing though - I would hope that since Jerry Jones is putting 60 yard HDTV's in the new Dallas stadium that the Skins would try to do the same thing - the reply screens at Fed Ex are not too good.

As far as getting out of Fed Ex - I beleive the Skins have 20 years left on the bonds that were issued by Maryland but as many have said you could sell the land at Fed Ex for development (retail and office and not residential due to housing issues) and probably have more than enough to pay off the State of Maryland. Interestingly enough Synder may be waiting becuase I would bet that as the years go by the penalties to leave Fed Ex will go down - so maybe in 10 years the Skins will move back?

One other point to consider is if they moved back to the old RFK site you can be sure that Synder will have to more than make up for all the lost parking revenue he currently gets at Fed Ex - either through higher ticket prices or a bigger stadium. I don't know how many parking spaces there are at Fed Ex that he gets money from but it is a lot. I know Orange Parking tickets go for around $125 per ticket to give you an idea of how much is made on parking.

Skinsfan1967 12-02-2007 07:58 AM

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I don't think that loud will be a problem this afternoon. Let's make sure Sean hears every voice.

Giantone 12-02-2007 11:45 AM

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[quote=Bill B;386682]Soupmeister - they could have a field like the Arizona Cardinals that literally rolls in under the stadium from the outside, although I think Synder would do a retractable roof so he could open up the stadium on nice days. If a new stadium is built you can gurantee it will be a dome and most likely a retractable roof - having the Superbowl here is just too big a draw not to do it. One other thing though - I would hope that since Jerry Jones is putting 60 yard HDTV's in the new Dallas stadium that the Skins would try to do the same thing - the reply screens at Fed Ex are not too good.

As far as getting out of Fed Ex - I beleive the Skins have 20 years left on the bonds that were issued by Maryland but as many have said you could sell the land at Fed Ex for development (retail and office and not residential due to housing issues) and probably have more than enough to pay off the State of Maryland. Interestingly enough Synder may be waiting becuase I would bet that as the years go by the penalties to leave Fed Ex will go down - so maybe in 10 years the Skins will move back?

One other point to consider is if they moved back to the old RFK site you can be sure that Synder will have to more than make up for all the lost parking revenue he currently gets at Fed Ex - either through higher ticket prices or a bigger stadium. I don't know how many parking spaces there are at Fed Ex that he gets money from but it is a lot. I know Orange Parking tickets go for around $125 per ticket to give you an idea of how much is made on parking.[/quote]

The New Giants stadium (with the Jets) is at 1.5 Bill right now .............in 10 years for Snyder to move it will be 3 Bill and as of now he does'nt have it.

biggirl 12-02-2007 03:11 PM

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JKC wanted to tear down RFK, but there was such an uproar about it, the idea was scrapped. Then, the secret deal fell apart to build a stadium at Potomac Yard. Remember that? Then, with no other options it seems, he decided to build on the site of the current FedEx field. In freaking landover! I HATE that place. It's not close to anything!
There was nothing like redskins games at RFK. They spent millions refurbishing it for the 2 years the Nationals have been playing...I hate to see them tear it down...but I guess it does make sense to build a retractable roofed stadium, if you are going to build a stadium at all. I would love to see 1 more game at RFK. Now that would be cool.


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