UPDATE: Parcells Named Dolphins Exec VP
 

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3160597]ESPN - Sources: ESPN's Parcells considering vice president offer from Falcons - NFL[/url]

I hear he's leaning toward yes. And he might bring in John Fox to be his coach next year, assuming the Panthers let Fox go.

But I guess I'll ask the inevitable question as it applies to the Redskins. If Parcells does join the Falcons, it probably means Rich McKay is out the door as President and GM.

So...should the Redskins go after McKay? For the record, I say no.

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Well this is consistent with his passion for turning around awful teams. I think he could be very succesful in this role. He'll have a chance to draft a high-impact qb right off the bat. Because this team is in such a transitional phase - with a lot of expensive vets likely to get axed sooner than later - he'll have an opportunity to mold the team in his own image.

And definitely no on McKay.

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I think that Gibbs is no longer an offensive genius, or at least not in todays game. However one thing Gibbs has always been is an evaluator of talent. Personally I love the players hes brought in, even Mark Brunell who eventually went on to lead the Skins to the playoffs and lets not forget Cooley, Moss, Washington, Griffin, Montgomery, Taylor, Landry, Kendall, Heyer, Ryan Clark, Rocky McIntosh, London Fletcher, Jason Campbell. Personally I love the idea of Gibbs eventually settling on a GM job. And now with a full clip of draft picks I think that the level of talent on the team is only going to get deeper. So to answer your original question no on McKay.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;394871]I think that Gibbs is no longer an offensive genius, or at least not in todays game. However one thing Gibbs has always been is an evaluator of talent. Personally I love the players hes brought in, even Mark Brunell who eventually went on to lead the Skins to the playoffs and lets not forget Cooley, Moss, Washington, Griffin, Montgomery, Taylor, Landry, Kendall, Heyer, Ryan Clark, Rocky McIntosh, London Fletcher, Jason Campbell. Personally I love the idea of Gibbs eventually settling on a GM job. And now with a full clip of draft picks I think that the level of talent on the team is only going to get deeper. So to answer your original question no on McKay.[/quote]

That is exactly my thought..

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Wow. Parcells just can't stay away, can't he?

As long as Gibbs is head coach/Team President, he will never hire someone or suggest that someone else be hired to give him marching orders.

So it will never happen.

Still, in an ideal world, I'd go back to the formula that worked the first time -- have Joe Gibbs as the football coach, and have someone else bring him the personnel.

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Gibbs used to babysit Richie McKay. I think he would recommend him for any job in the league except one with The Redskins. Not happening.

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no. i cant make it more simple. what has Atlanta done that would warrant me want McKay here? give their star qback a ton of money, without doing their homework. that team is falling apart, and is a long way away from being anything close to competitive

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espn.com has updated this story - looks like the tuna is all but there.

The only way this has ramifications for the skins is if Gibbs decides to leave after the season & the danny hits the market for a coach. I don't see that happening.

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should also throw out the possibility that the Tuna asks the Danny's permission to talk to GW.

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I like that the Falcons are looking to rebuild from the top down. Parcells might not have the touch anymore when it comes to coaching, but the guy has always brought in talent wherever he's been.

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i really like parcells as a coach, football mind and analyst. atlanta is a good fit for him in terms of how much they need to re-build and i wish parcells the best of luck.

i also like the idea of coach joe staying another year as coach or becoming a full-time GM/VP of the skins. but in all honesty i think when coach joe decides to stop coaching i think he is done with football all together and will go back to racing.

go skins!

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

Ok, so now he's reconsidering. Because the Dolphins have come back with a new and better offer than they originally had given him recently.

Interesting since the Fins are rumored to be up for sale any day now.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;394984]I like that the Falcons are looking to rebuild from the top down. Parcells might not have the touch anymore when it comes to coaching, but the guy has always brought in talent wherever he's been.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Parcells acquired a lot of good young talent for the Cowboys. I would go so far as to say that they wouldn't be where they are now without Parcells building their roster.

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Wonder if he is mulling over coaching again? W/ the Dolphins? It wouldn't be a total suprise.

He's one of the best evaluators of talent there is around i've got to think. He leaves every team he's been w/ in good shape talent wise. Dallas is stocked unfortunately w/ young, talented, and inexpensive players for the next few years. I'd guess that BP could become a great GM.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;395075]Ok, so now he's reconsidering. Because the Dolphins have come back with a new and better offer than they originally had given him recently.

Interesting since the Fins are rumored to be up for sale any day now.[/QUOTE]

Pretty typical Parcells.. He's quit on or backed out of agreements with the Giants, Bucs, Jets, Pats, Cowboys and now Falcons..

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[QUOTE=Paintrain;395119]Pretty typical Parcells.. He's quit on or backed out of agreements with the Giants, Bucs, Jets, Pats, Cowboys and now Falcons..[/QUOTE]

He's no dummy, the game is called show me the money. They guy is just playing one against the other for his services.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;395126]He's no dummy, the game is called show me the money. They guy is just playing one against the other for his services.[/quote]

I think he has to since his recent divorce hurt his bank account pretty hard!

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[quote=Beemnseven;394884]Wow. Parcells just can't stay away, can't he?

As long as Gibbs is head coach/Team President, he will never hire someone or suggest that someone else be hired to give him marching orders.

So it will never happen.

[B]Still, in an ideal world, I'd go back to the formula that worked the first time -- have Joe Gibbs as the football coach, and have someone else bring him the personnel[/B].[[B]/[/B]quote]

Couldn't have said it better myself! To me this rule of thumb applies to every NFL team! Heck all the top AFC teams (which I consider the better conference right now) use this approach of having a seperate GM than coach: The Patriots got Scott Pioli, Colts have Bill Polian, Pittsburgh has Kevin Colbert. I always thought the NFL was a copy cat league and when other teams want to have good consistent teams year after year like these 3 teams do, they would try and assimilate a front office structure in a similar pattern after these 3 teams.

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

Maybe he's thinking about Matt Ryan with that number one pick? From what I hear he's moving towards being a consensus number one.

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I say no. I am not all that impressed with what McKay has done either in Atl or TB.

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

Here's an updated article on Parcells

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3161733]ESPN - Parcells spurns Falcons, close to deal with Dolphins - NFL[/url]

If the Giants let Coughlin go, it will be interesting to see if he joins Parcells wherever he ends up

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ESPN radio is saying the deal is done.

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4-year deal apprently. Crazy. All that's left for Parcells now is the Bills in the AFC East

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according to Chris Mortensen, that is correct

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3162909]ESPN - Source: Parcells signs on as Dolphins Executive VP - NFL[/url] (Updated as of right now)

You almost have to feel sorry for Arthur Blank. His franchise went from having a great future to having a huge mudhole stomped into it in about 12 months. Parcells could have really turned things around.

I wonder what the motivation was to have Big Tuna go to Miami instead of Atlanta...and you might as well find a new job, Cam Cameron.

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

[quote=BDBohnzie;395304][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3162909"]ESPN - Source: Parcells signs on as Dolphins Executive VP - NFL[/URL] (Updated as of right now)

You almost have to feel sorry for Arthur Blank. His franchise went from having a great future to having a huge mudhole stomped into it in about 12 months. Parcells could have really turned things around.

[B]I wonder what the motivation was to have Big Tuna go to Miami instead of Atlanta[/B]...and you might as well find a new job, Cam Cameron.[/quote]

Probably because of the ownership situation. Blank is a very hands on guy while Huizinga cuts the checks and stays in the background.

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

Did Jason Garret work with Parcells in Dallas or was he brought in after the fact?

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Reconsidering Falcons Offer, Interested in Dolphins Now
 

They have never worked together...

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Wow.

Another chapter in the story of the Falcon's getting royally screwed by one guy after another.

Vick throws his life away and gets jailed. Petrino skips town in the middle of the night after being all buddy-buddy with the owner the day before. Now Parcells appears close to a deal and then backs out for something better.

Atlanta can't catch a break.

Re: UPDATE: Parcells Named Dolphins Exec VP
 

[I]So I guess the tuna's not dolphin safe after all. [/I]

Uh, get it? Tuna, dolphins... you know you like it.

(God damn I'm funny!)

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This will probually turn out being the best move they've made in a long time in Miami IMO.

Parcells will get that thing turned around in time...... first things first, who's he gonna bring in to coach the team?

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This will probably will seal Cam Cameron's fate, since Parcells will probably hire Maurice Carthon as his coach. I hope we pickup Cameron give him a coaching job and groom him as our next HC. Personally I think the guy is brilliant despite his record in Miami.

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Cameron reminds me of another Norv Turner. Great offensive coordinator, maybe not the best fit as head coach and certainly not someone I would want having a say in personnel.

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Unfortunately his relationship with Norv has created a bias. I think a second chance would disprove that. He screwed up on not drafting Brady, but the jury is still out on the kid he drafted. I would give him a chance, he could be better or as good as Garrett.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;395328]This will probually turn out being the best move they've made in a long time in Miami IMO.

Parcells will get that thing turned around in time...... first things first, who's he gonna bring in to coach the team?[/quote]

That's the question, Mortenson on espn radio yesterday didn't have any idea.

It occurred to me that the tuna might ask to speak to GW. Sounds crazy but Who knows? Since Cameron has only had 1 year & he's an offensive guy, I wouldn't be surprised if the tuna gives it at least another year, while focusing on getting some youth on the D.

Merry Christmas Mike!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;395332]This will probably will seal Cam Cameron's fate, since Parcells will probably hire Maurice Carthon as his coach. I hope we pickup Cameron give him a coaching job and groom him as our next HC. Personally I think the guy is brilliant despite his record in Miami.[/quote]

Groom Cam Cameron to be........ what?!?!

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Names I've heard so far are Josh McDaniel, Mike Zimmer, Tony Sparano, Todd Bowles (yes that Todd Bowles), Jason Garrett, John Fox, and of course Cowher and Marty are always mentioned.

The last two are huge long shots. No way the Pats let McDaniels go to a division rival if they can help it. Cowboys will probably fire Wade before they let Garrett become a head coach somewhere else. Falcons probably would try to find a way to keep Zimmer from going to the Dolphins, especially after what just transpired.

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Who Cares!

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[quote=PIG#1;395420]Who Cares![/quote]

Thanks for that input.

:doh:

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[quote=freddyg12;395336]That's the question, Mortenson on espn radio yesterday didn't have any idea.

It occurred to me that the tuna might ask to speak to GW. Sounds crazy but Who knows? Since Cameron has only had 1 year & he's an offensive guy, I wouldn't be surprised if the tuna gives it at least another year, while focusing on getting some youth on the D.

Merry Christmas Mike![/quote]

Good point, no tellin? I don't think it will be long before he sets his claws in though.

Merry Christmas to you Freddy, and Go Redskins!