Monday Afternoon H-Back
 

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Redemption all around. Full marks to the entire organization, Daniel Snyder on down. Quite an accomplishment even getting this far, and I don't think they're done yet.

Coach Joe Gibbs, obviously, deserves a tremendous amount of credit for getting this thing turned around. And Gregg Williams, who took a lot of half-baked shots a year ago about the league catching up to him and his players quitting on him ... well, he loses his best safety, top corner and emerging stud linebacker and still gets the defense from 31st to 8. The Skins went from 31st against the pass to 6th. They rank 3rd in the NFL in yards allowed per carry. Nuff said.

The kids were alright again. Reed Doughty has been a beast against the run and he's making plays in coverage now, too, with a huge breakup on that pass to Whitten in the end zone. Stephon Heyer gave up one big sack - that happens to everyone sometimes - but was great otherwise. Lorenzo Alexander did his thing. Leigh Torrence had some big plays and broke up a few passes. Anthony Montgomery clogged up the middle as usual (Cornelius Griffin had one of his best games of the season as well).

Holding Dallas to one rushing yard was tremendous. Barber's first four carries were all for negative yardage. And a ton of the credit for that goes to the corners. Yeah, you heard that right. Without Springs and Smoot holding it down (Springs is playing every bit like a shutdown corner again) Gregg can gamble with 8 in the box and play almost exclusively Cover-3. Trust me, your corners have to be holding it down to be able to go that route and still surrender no big plays of note over a 4 week span.

Now, they'll face their best pass attack during this streak Saturday (I am not counting Dallas yesterday with Romo not playing a full game, no TO, Glenn clearly just getting his legs back, starters being yanked at the half and with nothing to play for. I don't see Seattle moving the ball a inch on the ground and I imagine Holmgren will do everything possible to force Gregg to drop more people back in coverage (but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet; plenty of time this week to dissect the next game).

Todd Collins seemed a little shaky early, but again was a star. His quick reads and quick delivery have been vital to the short passing game, with Portis now a huge weapon on screens and check downs. They've always envisioned Portis as someone who could catch 5 balls for 50-60 yards any given Sunday, and now they've got it. He's looking more and more like Brian Westbrook, and Collins is finding him in stride out in space. It's become an essential dynamic to the offense.

No one could have expected Collins to play this well. For the month of December, only one QB in the NFL had a better passer rating than Todd's 106.4. Can you guess who?
BBM. Yep. Peyton was pretty incredible this month, with a 122.2 rating (97-for-136, 1219 yards with 12 TDs and 2 INTs). The only other QBs with a rating over 100 this month were Shaun Hill (yeah, the ex-Terp) posted a 101.3, and David Gerrard of the Jags had a 100.6.

That Brady dude? A mere 94.5 rating. (Again, not too look ahead too much and not to keep the beating the Seattle-will-try-to-throw-the-heck-out-of-the ball theory into the ground, but BBH (Big Brother Hasselbeck) had a 95.8 rating in December, throwing for 1079 yards with 10 TDs and 3 INTs.

As a whole, it's impossible not to believe that something well beyond football is going on with this franchise. They are accomplishing some incredible special stuff and it definitely reminds me of covering the 1997-98 Detroit Redwings, who overcame great tragedy as well to win a second straight Stanley Cup. People start doing things that don't seem possible and the belief in the collective defies all. I think this team is winning at least one more game, and two would not surprise me either. Hell, anything other than telling me they're winning the Super Bowl would not surprise me.

The Redskins and Jags are the two teams in either conference no one wants to face right now. Also, just got a text from a personnel exec from a team I know well, who crunched the numbers and said only Philly played a tougher schedule than the Redskins this season. The Skins' opponents posted a collective record of 142-114 (.555). So they did it the hard way.

And you look at how they have played against the best of the NFC - those who make the postseason - and they gave games to the Pack and Dallas, beat Dallas at home, split with the Giants (including another game they gave away) ... and gave one away to Tampa with some questionable coaching decisions and all those turnovers.

So it seems pretty wide open to me, even with all of the injuries and tragedy the Redskins have faced.

PS- Hasselbeck dinged up his throwing hard in the one half he played Sunday. Seahawks acting like it's nothing major, but from what I hear they had him take a brace off his hand before meeting the media after the game. Not a huge thing, but could be enough to alter his mechanics on a throw or two, or at least something for the defense to consider when attacking him.

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[quote=Mattyk72;399811]Todd Collins seemed a little shaky early, but again was a star. His quick reads and quick delivery have been vital to the short passing game, with Portis now a huge weapon on screens and check downs. They've always envisioned Portis as someone who could catch 5 balls for 50-60 yards any given Sunday, and now they've got it. He's looking more and more like Brian Westbrook, and Collins is finding him in stride out in space. It's become an essential dynamic to the offense.

[B]No one could have expected Collins to play this well[/B]. For the month of December, only one QB in the NFL had a better passer rating than Todd's 106.4. Can you guess who?
BBM. Yep. Peyton was pretty incredible this month, with a 122.2 rating (97-for-136, 1219 yards with 12 TDs and 2 INTs). The only other QBs with a rating over 100 this month were Shaun Hill (yeah, the ex-Terp) posted a 101.3, and David Gerrard of the Jags had a 100.6.

That Brady dude? A mere 94.5 rating. (Again, not too look ahead too much and not to keep the beating the Seattle-will-try-to-throw-the-heck-out-of-the ball theory into the ground, but BBH (Big Brother Hasselbeck) had a 95.8 rating in December, throwing for 1079 yards with 10 TDs and 3 INTs.

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I hate to tell you [I]I told you so[/I] again - but I was getting so much shit over defending Collins when he arrived in DC- I've got to. Can't hate on this guy too much now.

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[quote=warriorzpath;399815]I hate to tell you [I]I told you all so[/I] again - but I was getting so much shit over defending Collins when he arrived in DC- I've got to. Can't hate on this guy too much now.[/quote]

In all honesty, no one...no one thought the guy would step up like this. I think everyone is pleasantly surprised.

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[quote=12thMan;399817]In all honesty, no one...no one thought the guy would step up like this. I think everyone is pleasantly surprised.[/quote]

Would you give me enough credit to say I gave him more than a benefit of a doubt?

I was getting a lot of shit from a lot of people.

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[quote=warriorzpath;399842]Would you give me enough credit to say I gave him more than a benefit of a doubt?

I was getting a lot of shit from a lot of people.[/quote]

I suppose...if it makes you feel better:) I don't think, well, I guess a lot of people were trashing Collins. But in all honesty, who knew?

Anyone outside of Collins and Saunders that said they knew with 100% certainty that Collins was going to do this, makes me wonder. But you deserve big props if you called this one, no doubt.

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All I said basically was wait to see him play - all he needs is a chance. But everyone, everyone else was saying he sucks, there must be a reason why he is a career backup. I was the only one in his corner. There's all these people arguing against me (especially one in particular) and all these stats being thrown at me, but I felt so strongly about this that I continued to argue back and disagree. And I wasn't arguing just to argue - like some thought. So now - let me say it again - I told all of you so. Collins deserves it.

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[quote=warriorzpath;399844]All I said was basically was wait to see him play - all he needs is a chance. But everyone, everyone else was saying he sucks, there must be a reason why he is a career backup. I was the only one in his corner. There's all these people arguing against me (especially one in particular) and all these stats being thrown at me, but I felt so strongly about this that I continued to argue back and disagree. And I wasn't arguing just to argue - like some thought. So now - let me say it again - I told all of you so. Collins deserves it.[/quote]

I do remember a handful of people saying good things about him. Just a handful too. But you know, I think we're all happy with Collins right now.

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[quote=12thMan;399848]I do remember a handful of people saying good things about him. Just a handful too. But you know, I think we're all happy with Collins right now.[/quote]

No, there was maybe a handful of people - but that was a quiet handful and the oddball - me. But yeah we should be happy, but there are still some in the Campbell vs. Collins camp - I am happy as long as a qb is doing great in the game. I am still hoping for Campbell, which looks like he will be great - but for now I will bask in Collins success.

If you want you can look through my posts - to prove me wrong - but you'll only see a repeat of what I was saying - over and over and over again.

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[quote=warriorzpath;399852]No, there was maybe a handful of people - but that was a quiet handful and the oddball - me. But yeah we should be happy, but there are still some in the Campbell vs. Collins camp - I am happy as long as a qb is doing great in the game. I am still hoping for Campbell, which looks like he will be great - but for now I will bask in Collins success.

If you want you can look through my posts - to prove me wrong - but you'll only see a repeat of what I was saying - over and over and over again.[/quote]

Oh, I believe you. If you called this, mad props. Mad props.

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[quote=12thMan;399855]Oh, I believe you. If you called this, mad props. Mad props.[/quote]

I know for sure, one poster on here remembers. [I]That[/I] one [I]guy [/I]who keep attacking me. Sometimes it's not about just numbers and hype and all of that. Sometimes it's instinct and having a gut feeling about something or someone and also waiting to see how someone plays to before you judge a player.

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This is the thread I like

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/17763-official-warpath-sign-tim-rattay.html?highlight=todd+collins[/URL]

That would have been a smart move...


Here is the first post on this website that Todd Collins made...somehow a joke ended up being right
[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/locker-room/13919-do-you-really-wanna-see-anymore.html#post209070[/URL]

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath;399815]I hate to tell you [I]I told you so[/I] again - but I was getting so much shit over defending Collins when he arrived in DC- I've got to. Can't hate on this guy too much now.[/QUOTE]

You seem to really [U]need[/U] to take credit. So....
congratulations, Nostradamus! :cheeky-sm

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[quote=Mattyk72;399811][URL="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/"]Redskins Insider[/URL]

Redemption all around. Full marks to the entire organization, Daniel Snyder on down. Quite an accomplishment even getting this far, and I don't think they're done yet.

Coach Joe Gibbs, obviously, deserves a tremendous amount of credit for getting this thing turned around. And Gregg Williams, who took a lot of half-baked shots a year ago about the league catching up to him and his players quitting on him ... well, he loses his best safety, top corner and emerging stud linebacker and still gets the defense from 31st to 8. The Skins went from 31st against the pass to 6th. They rank 3rd in the NFL in yards allowed per carry. Nuff said.

The kids were alright again. Reed Doughty has been a beast against the run and he's making plays in coverage now, too, with a huge breakup on that pass to Whitten in the end zone. Stephon Heyer gave up one big sack - that happens to everyone sometimes - but was great otherwise. Lorenzo Alexander did his thing. Leigh Torrence had some big plays and broke up a few passes. Anthony Montgomery clogged up the middle as usual (Cornelius Griffin had one of his best games of the season as well).

Holding Dallas to one rushing yard was tremendous. Barber's first four carries were all for negative yardage. And a ton of the credit for that goes to the corners. Yeah, you heard that right. Without Springs and Smoot holding it down (Springs is playing every bit like a shutdown corner again) Gregg can gamble with 8 in the box and play almost exclusively Cover-3. Trust me, your corners have to be holding it down to be able to go that route and still surrender no big plays of note over a 4 week span.

Now, they'll face their best pass attack during this streak Saturday (I am not counting Dallas yesterday with Romo not playing a full game, no TO, Glenn clearly just getting his legs back, starters being yanked at the half and with nothing to play for. I don't see Seattle moving the ball a inch on the ground and I imagine Holmgren will do everything possible to force Gregg to drop more people back in coverage (but let's not get ahead of ourselves yet; plenty of time this week to dissect the next game).

Todd Collins seemed a little shaky early, but again was a star. His quick reads and quick delivery have been vital to the short passing game, with Portis now a huge weapon on screens and check downs. They've always envisioned Portis as someone who could catch 5 balls for 50-60 yards any given Sunday, and now they've got it. He's looking more and more like Brian Westbrook, and Collins is finding him in stride out in space. It's become an essential dynamic to the offense.

No one could have expected Collins to play this well. For the month of December, only one QB in the NFL had a better passer rating than Todd's 106.4. Can you guess who?
BBM. Yep. Peyton was pretty incredible this month, with a 122.2 rating (97-for-136, 1219 yards with 12 TDs and 2 INTs). The only other QBs with a rating over 100 this month were Shaun Hill (yeah, the ex-Terp) posted a 101.3, and David Gerrard of the Jags had a 100.6.

That Brady dude? A mere 94.5 rating. (Again, not too look ahead too much and not to keep the beating the Seattle-will-try-to-throw-the-heck-out-of-the ball theory into the ground, but BBH (Big Brother Hasselbeck) had a 95.8 rating in December, throwing for 1079 yards with 10 TDs and 3 INTs.

As a whole, it's impossible not to believe that something well beyond football is going on with this franchise. They are accomplishing some incredible special stuff and it definitely reminds me of covering the 1997-98 Detroit Redwings, who overcame great tragedy as well to win a second straight Stanley Cup. People start doing things that don't seem possible and the belief in the collective defies all. I think this team is winning at least one more game, and two would not surprise me either. Hell, anything other than telling me they're winning the Super Bowl would not surprise me.

The Redskins and Jags are the two teams in either conference no one wants to face right now. Also, just got a text from a personnel exec from a team I know well, who crunched the numbers and said only Philly played a tougher schedule than the Redskins this season. The Skins' opponents posted a collective record of 142-114 (.555). So they did it the hard way.

And you look at how they have played against the best of the NFC - those who make the postseason - and they gave games to the Pack and Dallas, beat Dallas at home, split with the Giants (including another game they gave away) ... and gave one away to Tampa with some questionable coaching decisions and all those turnovers.

So it seems pretty wide open to me, even with all of the injuries and tragedy the Redskins have faced.

PS- Hasselbeck dinged up his throwing hard in the one half he played Sunday. Seahawks acting like it's nothing major, but from what I hear they had him take a brace off his hand before meeting the media after the game. Not a huge thing, but could be enough to alter his mechanics on a throw or two, or at least something for the defense to consider when attacking him.[/quote]
i would love to see this in the washington post tomorrow. just a few weeks back we were all completely devestated and did not care about football or what happened to the season. Gibbs and the team deserve all the credit in the world. Proud as hell to be a fan of this incredible team and to see all they have done. Seattle does not scare me at all, watching the game saturday with my best friend (skins fan) and his brother in laws who are seattle fans. Lots of tears and cheers this season. lets not let the ride end. and BTW i have a hook up for 2 superbowl tix should it happen. and i will quit my job to make it there. lol. HTTR!

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[quote=dblanch66;399948]You seem to really [U]need[/U] to take credit. So....
congratulations, Nostradamus! :cheeky-sm[/quote]

Thanks, it wasn't an easy thing to do. I feel as much redemption as Collins and Saunders.

Also, I predict a very very bad year for you - but your football team has a good chance to win the superbowl.

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damn dude, can't we all just be happy to be......i will stop. happy new years gang. and i hope for a good year to all.

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wariorzpath, there were 2 full threads about collins above, and i didnt see one single posting from you. your trying to steal glory that you don't deserve:(

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[QUOTE=dmek25;400092]wariorzpath, there were 2 full threads about collins above, and i didnt see one single posting from you. your trying to steal glory that you don't deserve:([/QUOTE]

I know you're not serious. Cus it doesn't take much to egg me on.

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Nevermind...

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[quote=warriorzpath;400096]I know you're not serious. Cus it doesn't take much to egg me on.[/quote]

Calm down, man, let's all just be happy that he's doing well and leave it at that. I think after his 2006 preseason NO ONE wanted to see him anywhere NEAR a football field. Plus, it ain't like in 3 years we are gonna look back on this going, "Damn, Collins was good but give warriorzpath props for spotting that diamond in the rough!"

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[QUOTE=LMsexyAO;400107]Calm down, man, let's all just be happy that he's doing well and leave it at that. I think after his 2006 preseason NO ONE wanted to see him anywhere NEAR a football field. Plus, it ain't like in 3 years we are gonna look back on this going, "Damn, Collins was good but give warriorzpath props for spotting that diamond in the rough!"[/QUOTE]

You know what, everythings all good- but when the one lone voice speaks up against what the majority decides is the truth and nothing else is acceptable. that person gets trashed and piled on until that person shuts up. This is whats wrong here a lot of times. What im really saying is- people on here that has a different opinion or perspective aren't as crazy as you think.

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[quote=warriorzpath;400164]You know what, everythings all good- but when the one lone voice speaks up against what the majority decides is the truth and nothing else is acceptable. that person gets trashed and piled on until that person shuts up. This is whats wrong here a lot of times. What im really saying is- people on here that has a different opinion or perspective aren't as crazy as you think.[/quote]

You're 100% right, but no one really likes an "I told you so" shoved in their faces repeatedly when you're riding a high, so you can't really expect everyone to be all over your jock.... that's all. Congratulations on being right and all. ;)

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Being a true Redskin fan doesn't have much to do with competing with intarweb fanbois to see who is "right" more often.

If you want everyone to pat you on the back, so be it, but it seems a little self-serving IMO.

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[quote=canthetuna;400174]You're 100% right, but no one really likes an "I told you so" shoved in their faces repeatedly when you're riding a high, so you can't really expect everyone to be all over your jock.... that's all. Congratulations on being right and all. ;)[/quote]

Yeah whatever - it's the least some of you should do - after the crap like Collins is trash and all the crap that I should shut up and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, you are still doing it. No - you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Some of you just don't get it and football sometimes. Yeah you think that I don't know what I'm talking about (with that sarcasm in the posts) - but here's the difference between me and some of you - I post stuff with a different insight and usually stray from the majority and go out on a limb sometimes - most of you stay safe and just regurgitate everything you read and hear. The big difference now is I have something that makes my words true.

So no I don't want anyone on my proverbial jock (of course most football fans are male anyways) - but quit the sarcasm and just give me and a lot of the posters on here that dissent from the majority thinking - some respect.

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[quote=warriorzpath;400428]Yeah whatever - it's the least some of you should do - after the crap like Collins is trash and all the crap that I should shut up and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, you are still doing it. No - you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Some of you just don't get it and football sometimes. Yeah you think that I don't know what I'm talking about (with that sarcasm in the posts) - but here's the difference between me and some of you - I post stuff with a different insight and usually stray from the majority and go out on a limb sometimes - most of you stay safe and just regurgitate everything you read and hear. The big difference now is I have something that makes my words true.

So no I don't want anyone on my proverbial jock (of course most football fans are male anyways) - but quit the sarcasm and just give me and a lot of the posters on here that dissent from the majority thinking - some respect.[/quote]

Where exactly are your Nostradamus like predictions on Collins?

I'd just like to see what exactly we're talking about here.

If you called it, great, mad props to you. But enough with the gloating already.

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[quote=warriorzpath;400428]Yeah whatever - it's the least some of you should do - after the crap like Collins is trash and all the crap that I should shut up and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, you are still doing it. No - you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Some of you just don't get it and football sometimes. Yeah you think that I don't know what I'm talking about (with that sarcasm in the posts) - but here's the difference between me and some of you - I post stuff with a different insight and usually stray from the majority and go out on a limb sometimes - most of you stay safe and just regurgitate everything you read and hear. The big difference now is I have something that makes my words true.

So no I don't want anyone on my proverbial jock (of course most football fans are male anyways) - but quit the sarcasm and just give me and a lot of the posters on here that dissent from the majority thinking - some respect.[/quote]

Why is this so personal to you?

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[quote=Mattyk72;400431]Where exactly are your Nostradamus like predictions on Collins?

I'd just like to see what exactly we're talking about here.

If you called it, great, mad props to you. But enough with the gloating already.[/quote]

Here's a prime example of what I talking about. And here it goes - the same old crap over and over again. There's just a major disconnect here that you like the majority here doesn't understand.

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[quote=12thMan;400433]Why is this so personal to you?[/quote]

It's just like I posted - there is just a lack of respect here for some people that want to discuss ideas or topics that seem not right. But how can you decide want is right and what is wrong to discuss here?

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[quote=warriorzpath;400434]Here's a prime example of what I talking about. And here it goes - the same old crap over and over again. There's just a major disconnect here that you like the majority here doesn't understand.[/quote]

All I'm asking for is to see some proof.

It has nothing to do with a disconnect.

Let's see what you are talking about.

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[quote=Mattyk72;400439]All I'm asking for is to see some proof.

It has nothing to do with a disconnect.

Let's see what you are talking about.[/quote]

Here's what Saunders said in an article:

[I]Todd is as good a technician as there is in this passing game," Saunders said. "He just hasn't had a chance to play because [Chiefs Pro Bowl starter] Trent [Green] was always healthy."[/I]

And I said give him a chance because I believe Saunders.

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[quote=warriorzpath;400446]Here's what Saunders said in an article:

[I]Todd is as good a technician as there is in this passing game," Saunders said. "He just hasn't had a chance to play because [Chiefs Pro Bowl starter] Trent [Green] was always healthy."[/I]

And I said give him a chance because I believe Saunders.[/quote]

Ok, where/when did you say this?

Can you just post a link to your post so we can see exactly what you are talking about?

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The best way to get respect from people is to call them all idiots who can't form an independent thought. Good call, I imagine you'll get far on your quest.

Besides who needs the respect of a bunch of football ignorant numbskulls who don't know what the hell they're talking about???

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[quote=warriorzpath;400438]It's just like I posted - there is just a lack of respect here for some people that want to discuss ideas or topics that seem not right. But how can you decide want is right and what is wrong to discuss here?[/quote]

In my experience, respect is earned over time. It's not something you win because you were right about a particular argument. If you have good insights, keep posting them. It's even fine to bump an old post and pat yourself on the back in a friendly / self-effacing manner, but you will NEVER gain respect by demanding it the way you're attempting to do here.

I've seen this time and time again on message boards and IRL, and I can certainly understand what you're trying to say, but this isn't the way to achieve what you want to achieve.

Just my .02.

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Warriorz, why are you making this so personal? I mean I know what you said, but people here disagree every 2.5 seconds.

We've all been wrong and right about a ton of things. Shoot, Gibbs himself said he didn't even think the team was going to be in the playoffs after the Bills game.

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[quote=dgack;400457]In my experience, respect is earned over time. It's not something you win because you were right about a particular argument. If you have good insights, keep posting them. It's even fine to bump an old post and pat yourself on the back in a friendly / self-effacing manner, but you will NEVER gain respect by demanding it the way you're attempting to do here.

I've seen this time and time again on message boards and IRL, and I can certainly understand what you're trying to say, but this isn't the way to achieve what you want to achieve.

Just my .02.[/quote]

Well said.

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[QUOTE=warriorzpath;400438]It's just like I posted - there is just a lack of respect here for some people that want to discuss ideas or topics that seem not right. But how can you decide want is right and what is wrong to discuss here?[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I don't know what you're talking about and why you're even stressing out about this.

If you feel like you've been disrespected, then you should let a mod know. But I honestly don't know how someone can get disrespected on a message board. Thats just me. I've been on this board for a couple of years now and not once have I ever felt disrespected.

Take it for what it is......its a message board.


I think you should just get over it and move on. I think you're taking it a little too personal.

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[quote=warriorzpath;400446]Here's what Saunders said in an article:

[I]Todd is as good a technician as there is in this passing game," Saunders said. "He just hasn't had a chance to play because [Chiefs Pro Bowl starter] Trent [Green] was always healthy."[/I]

And I said give him a chance because I believe Saunders.[/quote]


So you took what Saunders said and ran with it.

[quote=warriorzpath]
Yeah whatever - it's the least some of you should do - after the crap like Collins is trash and all the crap that I should shut up and I don't know what the hell I'm talking about. As a matter of fact, you are still doing it. No - you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Some of you just don't get it and football sometimes. Yeah you think that I don't know what I'm talking about (with that sarcasm in the posts) - but here's the difference between me and some of you - I post stuff with a different insight and usually stray from the majority and go out on a limb sometimes - most of you stay safe and just regurgitate everything you read and hear. The big difference now is I have something that makes my words true.

So no I don't want anyone on my proverbial jock (of course most football fans are male anyways) - but quit the sarcasm and just give me and a lot of the posters on here that dissent from the majority thinking - some respect.[quote]

Then here you critcise people for just repeating things we read or hear. Whats the difference in us repeating what we read and hear and you doing the same thing with Saunders comments?

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Here are some of Warriorzpath's posts:

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182682-post93.html[/url]

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182623-post83.html[/url]

[url]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182607-post76.html[/url]

Recurring theme seems to be "Hey he might be good, he might suck. But let's not write him off" Good for you for not throwing him under the bus as others may have, I suppose. But this isn't exactly groundbreaking stuff you said here. You need to get over yourself. RK3025 flat out said Collins needs to be starting to get this offense going, and he's not here gloating.

Quite honestly, I think that your quest for recognition is pretty pathetic. I think from now on anytime someone insists on getting credit for being right they should be required to also post in the "I Was Wrong When.." thread. A little humility never hurt anyone.

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Warriorz, I didn't see anything where you just put it out there that Collins was going to be good. You did a lot of hedging from what I read. I don't see what you're so upset about.

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I think warriorz needs a hug.

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[quote=SmootSmack;400473]Here are some of Warriorzpath's posts:

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182682-post93.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182623-post83.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.redskinswarpath.com/182607-post76.html[/URL]

Recurring theme seems to be "Hey he might be good, he might suck. But let's not write him off" Good for you for not throwing him under the bus as others may have, I suppose. But this isn't exactly groundbreaking stuff you said here. You need to get over yourself. RK3025 flat out said Collins needs to be starting to get this offense going, and he's not here gloating.

Quite honestly, I think that your quest for recognition is pretty pathetic. I think from now on anytime someone insists on getting credit for being right they should be required to also post in the "I Was Wrong When.." thread. A little humility never hurt anyone.[/quote]

Jeez I hope he's got something better than that.

All of this over that?

Ugh.