ESPN reports skins have "no chance"
 

Intersting, however i think he should at least put us in the "punchers choice" section we are on a hot streak right now...



[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/080104&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1]ESPN Page 2 - Simmons: Back to NFL basics[/url]

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How many more wins is it going to take for people to believe what Collins is doing is not some sort of fluke?

I'm surprised as all hell too, but I've sucked it up and admitted I was dead wrong on him.

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Another thing i thought was interesting was when he said dallas didnt try againsed us, thats total BS they kept Romo in until the 4th. He also said we had an easy schedule down the stretch.... we beat the Vikings who were fighting for a playoff slot, and 2 division rivals, whats easy about that?

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Its just Bill Simmons. He's been picking against during this whole 4 game winning streak.

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He basically bases his entire opinion on the Todd. From the distance, you can't really argue with him there

Look closer, and you'll see that Todd Collins is a system guy in his system. He will beat you because he knows how to. He's not a physical dominator, he's not Michael Vick, but his head is as good as any QB could be for this team right now.

He makes quick reads, and hasn't panicked under pressure. When he feels the pressure, he's made the correct hot read. You can bet that he'll be rushed, but he knows where to put it. Obviously, we'll have to wait and see how he fairs. (Remember... we've faced a pretty nasty NY pass rush.. and handled it quite well)

I think as Campbell learns the system more (this injury may be a blessing in disguise), and has a healthy team around him... he'll be twice the QB TC is right now. Sorry, I went off on a bit of a tangent... but I digress.

As far as this article goes, I think putting Seattle ahead of Washington and NY is just wrong. To each his own, but I really disagree.

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In the end who cares. Just another moron to prove wrong.

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Bill Simmons is an idiot and obviously have not watched a single Redskin game. The Redskin have gone 4-0 for more reasons than just Todd Collins. Todd Collins has been a big part of the success but Clinton Portis has averaged 100 yards and a touchdown in each game. The defense has played at a tremendous level, holding both the rookie of the year Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor under 100 yards rushing, holding Dallas with pro-bowler Shawn Barber and Julius Jones to 2 yards rushing and winning the turnover battle versus the Giants, Vikings and Cowboys. That was a pretty lame analysis to say the Redskins don't have a chance and only talk about the quarterback. I guess when Trent Dilfer led the Ravens to the Super Bowl he picked against the Ravens because Dilfer is a career backup. Idiot!

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Mr ESPN report's record speaks for itself:[B][I]

Last Week: 8-8
Season: 118-129-9[/I][/B]

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[quote=GoSkins!;401491]Mr ESPN report's record speaks for itself:

[I][B]Last Week: 8-8[/B][/I]
[I][B]Season: 118-129-9[/B][/I][/quote]

Wow, I'm guessing that's straight up and not against the spread.

That's a god-awful record for picking straight up.

Any moron who knows football should be able to hit on about 60% straight up.

Last week against the spread I think I hit 11 right.

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I notice no one mentions that the Seahawks have beat exactly one team with a winning record all season.

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as much as i love ESPN, its turning into more show then go. for some reason they are leaning towards people that have more style then substance. 20 years ago did we get every-ones opinion on everything? now everyone is an expert. and there's a heck of alot more yelling and arguing going on. how about they clean it up alittle bit, and get back to reporting, not just putting on a show?

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[quote=Daseal;401493]I notice no one mentions that the Seahawks have beat exactly one team with a winning record all season.[/quote]

Yeah exactly, or the fact they play in a horrible division and had a cakewalk schedule.

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[quote=Mattyk72;401496]Yeah exactly, or the fact they play in a horrible division and had a cakewalk schedule.[/quote]

The last time they beat a team with a winning record was week five.

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Only part of that whole article that I liked was Todd Collins = a real life Shane Falco.

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His final score is crazy too. Who handicaps a game with a crazy score like 30-15 in the possible pooring rain and extreme wind - a feildgoal bananza with a maybe a saftey or missed point after mixed in?

I didnt know Settle had that good of a home game % with Matt on their side. Thats pretty good.

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Yeah, I don't understand these predictions. He look stupid anyway. The team is on fire. They been playing good football on all 3 cylinders. The offense are putting points on the board. The defense have been making turnovers. The Special Teams have been making turn overs as well as giving us good field position as well as giving the opposing team bad field position.

We are playing good football, and just because we are playing in Qwest Field which is undoubtly the hardest place to play in the league. We are just going to sit there and lose. "We are going to fight our guts". The Seahawks are depending on Hasselback to lead the team. The rest of the team has been doing nothing all year including Alexander. The Redskins have too many weapons on offense and defense to just say the Redskins have no chance.

Another case is that we have been in every game this year except the Patriots game. We are one of the best teams in the NFL. I don't care what anyone says. That is the way I see it.

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[QUOTE=NinjaLink;401511]Yeah, I don't understand these predictions. He look stupid anyway. The team is on fire. [B]They been playing good football on all 3 cylinders[/B]. The offense are putting points on the board. The defense have been making turnovers. The Special Teams have been making turn overs as well as giving us good field position as well as giving the opposing team bad field position.

We are playing good football, and just because we are playing in Qwest Field which is undoubtly the hardest place to play in the league. We are just going to sit there and lose. "We are going to fight our guts". The Seahawks are depending on Hasselback to lead the team. The rest of the team has been doing nothing all year including Alexander. The Redskins have too many weapons on offense and defense to just say the Redskins have no chance.

Another case is that we have been in every game this year except the Patriots game. We are one of the best teams in the NFL. I don't care what anyone says. That is the way I see it.[/QUOTE]

Why does that make me think of a busted down honda civic?

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LOL...He doesn't think Phil Rivers sucks. Does he mean Philip Rivers or does he know Rivers like that?

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[QUOTE=dmek25;401495]as much as i love ESPN, its turning into more show then go. for some reason they are leaning towards people that have more style then substance. 20 years ago did we get every-ones opinion on everything? now everyone is an expert. and there's a heck of alot more yelling and arguing going on. how about they clean it up alittle bit, and get back to reporting, not just putting on a show?[/QUOTE]

Twenty years ago we didn't have the internet or cable... just the network pre-game show with Jimmy the Greek picking the games.... No offense I'd rather stay here in 2008 and deal with all the opinions.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;401495]as much as i love ESPN, its turning into more show then go. for some reason they are leaning towards people that have more style then substance. 20 years ago did we get every-ones opinion on everything? now everyone is an expert. and there's a heck of alot more yelling and arguing going on. how about they clean it up alittle bit, and get back to reporting, not just putting on a show?[/QUOTE]

thats ESPN for you now... heck they know such much right,NOT.
I,ve been saying all week to espn just to shut up about the skins and keep worrying about the boyz and patriots....

i like hank goldberg too ..he,s another so called expert too.

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What a fool! The ONLY way we have NO chance is if the pilot gets lost and the plane lands in ALASKA tomorrow night.

These writers are clueless! Lets see what they write after peeling off our 5th WIN in a row....still lucky...

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You guy's crack me up. Its like people look for all these writers who are talking Skins football. If they pick the Skins then they have come around and if they pick against the skins they are morons. ESPN has to have these writers with different opinions or they would be very boring. Like having a talk show where everyone agrees on everything. This board is a fine example of people having different opinions on the skins. We are riding high on Collins because he got OUR TEAM into the playoffs and if we asked anyone before the season what would happen if Todd became our starter only that one guy (for got his name) would have said we would have a chance. Its not like this guy does not have a good point about TC one that most here held until several weeks ago. Everytime I think of TC all I can remember is his first play for us was a pass right to a d lineman for a TD but the more that he plays the more it fades from my memory.

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[quote=firstdown;401525]You guy's crack me up. Its like people look for all these writers who are talking Skins football. If they pick the Skins then they have come around and if they pick against the skins they are morons. ESPN has to have these writers with different opinions or they would be very boring. Like having a talk show where everyone agrees on everything. This board is a fine example of people having different opinions on the skins. We are riding high on Collins because he got OUR TEAM into the playoffs and if we asked anyone before the season what would happen if Todd became our starter only that one guy (for got his name) would have said we would have a chance. Its not like this guy does not have a good point about TC one that most here held until several weeks ago. [B]Everytime I think of TC all I can remember is his first play for us was a pass right to a d lineman for a TD but the more that he plays the more it fades from my memory[/B].[/quote]

It amazes me what people remember and hold on to.

Wasn't that in a preseason game? You're really holding on to a memory from a meaningless preseason game??

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[QUOTE=birdz4gibbs;401521]thats ESPN for you now... heck they know such much right,NOT.
I,ve been saying all week to espn just to shut up about the skins and keep worrying about the boyz and patriots....

i like hank goldberg too ..he,s another so called expert too.[/QUOTE]

Yup since one person at ESPN gave his opinion that means that's ESPN for you. Makes total sense. GTripp picked the Seahawks to win, but you know that's The Warpath for you. Every idiot (not calling you an idiot Tripp) on here has no clue and is picking Seattle.

Mike Greenberg, Marcellus Wiley, and Ray Buchanan (among others) all picked the Redskins. Why isn't that "ESPN for you now?"

True, I tend to get a bit upset when people are continually bashing my colleagues and where I work. But it's fine when there's some substance behind the complaint. Not when they are stupid generalizations.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;401533]Yup since one person at ESPN gave his opinion that means that's ESPN for you. Makes total sense. GTripp picked the Seahawks to win, but you know that's The Warpath for you. Every idiot (not calling you an idiot Tripp) on here has no clue and is picking Seattle.

Mike Greenberg, Marcellus Wiley, and Ray Buchanan (among others) all picked the Redskins. Why isn't that "ESPN for you now?"

True, I tend to get a bit upset when people are continually bashing my colleagues and where I work. But it's fine when there's some substance behind the complaint. Not when they are stupid generalizations.[/QUOTE]

cause they are called experts remember,:) i,m an idiot and proud of it ,:)

j/k or am i but seriously i guess we will wait til tom for the outcome and besides i,m getting very tired now from all these threads ,just play the damn game already:).

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Four Writers I CANNOT STAND:

Peter King
Jason "Uncle Tom" Whitlock
Bill Simmons
Jay "Gay" Mariotti

I don't believe I just read Simmons's crap. *SMH*

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Have an issue, Smoot? Here's a tissue...I keed, I keed.

Bill Simmons is a "sports"writer, as in, he writes about sports, but he does it more for comedic value (hence his spot on Page2). The article is based purely on a "system" he has for picking games. If you go by his system, you can't help but pick the Seahawks. So what if Bill "Mr. Boston" Simmons picks the Seahawks? BFD. He's a Pats fan for Pete's sake!

I laughed at the thread title when I first saw it because I just assumed everyone from the Weekly Intern to the CEO of ESPN had all picked the 'hawks...

I know it's the Friday before the biggest game of the year (they all are from here on out), but give it a rest. Take the source for what's it's worth and have a pleasant day.

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Theres a reason this guy doesn't write on page 1.

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You know, I never get too wrapped up into what the media is saying or ESPN for that matter. I take it for it is, another opinion. Don't get me wrong, there are times when it seems personal, i.e. Monks induction into the Hall or Sean Taylor's death. But all in all, I don't let much get under my skin (pardon the pun).

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;401514]Why does that make me think of a busted down honda civic?[/quote]

Geo Metro! :D

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[quote=Dirtbag359;401541]Theres a reason this guy doesn't write on page 1.[/quote]

Haha (although my guy Gregg Easterbrook also is on "Page 2" so ...). Bill Simmons also picked the Titans to get blown out by 27 to the Chargers. Last I checked Vince Young doesn't play defense and Tennessee can bring it on D, I don't see them getting beaten by 27, or the Skins getting pummeled by 15. If Mr. Simmons took a look at the schedule he'd see that, excluding the New England game, the margin of defeat in the Skins other six losses came by margins of 7, 3, 8 (when they allowed Philly to score in order to get the ball back), 5, 6, and 1. All this while playing the 2nd toughest schedule in the league. I can see taking the 'Hawks, especially at home, but his scores are total B.S. (the fact that the shorthand for his column is the B.S. report is the only accurate part of the report).

If you are 118-129-9 (how do you tie?) then why do you get to keep making picks? Shouldn't someone shut you down at that point?

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[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan;401555]Haha (although my guy Gregg Easterbrook also is on "Page 2" so ...). Bill Simmons also picked the Titans to get blown out by 27 to the Chargers. Last I checked Vince Young doesn't play defense and Tennessee can bring it on D, I don't see them getting beaten by 27, or the Skins getting pummeled by 15. If Mr. Simmons took a look at the schedule he'd see that, excluding the New England game, the margin of defeat in the Skins other six losses came by margins of 7, 3, 8 (when they allowed Philly to score in order to get the ball back), 5, 6, and 1. All this while playing the 2nd toughest schedule in the league. I can see taking the 'Hawks, especially at home, but his scores are total B.S. [B](the fact that the shorthand for his column is the B.S. report is the only accurate part of the report). [/B]

If you are 118-129-9 (how do you tie?) then why do you get to keep making picks? Shouldn't someone shut you down at that point?[/QUOTE]It's almost like he did that [I]on purpose.[/I]

Do you guys read his stuff often?
Bohnzie hit the nail on the head when he said:
[QUOTE]Bill Simmons is a "sports"writer, as in, he writes about sports, but he does it more for comedic value (hence his spot on Page2). The article is based purely on a "system" he has for picking games. If you go by his system, you can't help but pick the Seahawks. [/QUOTE]
He is supposed to write more like a fan than a so-called expert and he always mocks himself for being wrong.

That being said, he does try to be logical about his picks so I find it kind of surprising that he doesn't even acknowledge that this team is playing on raw emotion and passion. Normally this is the kind of thing he would consider, especially if it was on the part of his beloved pats, but I guess he's too far removed (in LA) to know how the Skins have been as of late.

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He's a douche, but the bit on Chris Collinsworth had me laughing out loud. Priceless.

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[quote=SmootSmack;401533]Yup since one person at ESPN gave his opinion that means that's ESPN for you. Makes total sense. GTripp picked the Seahawks to win, but you know that's The Warpath for you. Every idiot (not calling you an idiot Tripp) on here has no clue and is picking Seattle.

Mike Greenberg, Marcellus Wiley, and Ray Buchanan (among others) all picked the Redskins. Why isn't that "ESPN for you now?"

True, I tend to get a bit upset when people are continually bashing my colleagues and where I work. But it's fine when there's some substance behind the complaint. Not when they are stupid generalizations.[/quote]


Yeah, that's people for you it is always the negative. "The glass is always half empty."

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[QUOTE=birdz4gibbs;401521]thats ESPN for you now... heck they know such much right,NOT.
[B]I,ve[/B] been saying all week to espn just to shut up about the skins and keep worrying about the boyz and patriots....

i like hank goldberg too ..[B]he,s[/B] another so called expert too.[/QUOTE]

[IMG]http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/cartoons/2002/09/16/austinnew5apostrophe.jpg[/IMG]

Let's all play along!

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Bill Simmons is an insufferable a-hole. The fact that he's a pompous Patriots/Red Sox/Celtics fan makes him even more difficult to digest these days.

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I guess we'll just go home. There is no point in playing this game, since ESPN says we have NO chance. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.

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[quote=dmek25;401495]as much as i love ESPN, its turning into more show then go. for some reason they are leaning towards people that have more style then substance. 20 years ago did we get every-ones opinion on everything? now everyone is an expert. and there's a heck of alot more yelling and arguing going on. how about they clean it up alittle bit, and get back to reporting, not just putting on a show?[/quote]

dmek, I think you're the only person that loves or atleast ever admitted loving ESPN. They are absolutly horrible and will never "eventually" submit real news. They recently stated that Gibbs will eventually be inducted into the HOF.

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[quote=SmootSmack;401533]Yup since one person at ESPN gave his opinion that means that's ESPN for you. Makes total sense. GTripp picked the Seahawks to win, but you know that's The Warpath for you. Every idiot (not calling you an idiot Tripp) on here has no clue and is picking Seattle.

Mike Greenberg, Marcellus Wiley, and Ray Buchanan (among others) all picked the Redskins. Why isn't that "ESPN for you now?"

True, I tend to get a bit upset when people are continually bashing my colleagues and where I work. But it's fine when there's some substance behind the complaint. Not when they are stupid generalizations.[/quote]

This I actually agre with, i think i should have not made the title what it was but it seems everytime I see a shitty article that needs to be dogged its coming from somewhere in ESPN's stellar lineup of "expert analysts".

however i do enjoy ESPN for the most part and i will say this guy is a complete moron and obviously he does not speak for everyone at ESPN.

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I actually love TSG, he's a humorist who writes about sports. If he was based out of DC, he'd be full-time homering for us instead of all the Bahstin teams. I don't think that's malicious or anything.

I know we're going all Gilbert Arenas and on every journo who has an opinion that doesn't involve us beating all challengers and trying to turn this into motivation and bulletin board material, but at some point we have to realize that a lot of people just talk about things they really don't have much investment in or knowledge of, because they're asked to rip off an opinion.

I mean, I don't know much about baseball but if someone asked me to write a column about it, I'd probably write something funny that would deeply offend a bunch of fans of various teams around the league, without really trying to. And similarly I get the distinct impression that Simmons really doesn't know jack about the Skins, and is just sort of blathering.

Anyway, never attribute to malice what can more easily be attributed to incompetence. A good maxim to live by :)