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I'm sorry, but there was too much MOJO going on for the Skins to lose this game. How perfect is that for Landry to get two INTs playing Sean's position. I swear, I was sitting there thinking, HOLY SHIT, that's Sean wearing #30. Landry had a great game, and represented big time.

Bottom Line: If Suisham makes that field goal Wii win. You can't miss a 30 yard field goal there...You just can't do it. I thought Gibbs was going to bite his lip off after that. That was the beginning of the end. 17-13 would have been good, but 14-13 gave them the chance they needed to come back and make the Skins pay. Suisham isn't living remotely close to D.C. next year.

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I concur.

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I'm with you and it sucks.

Honestly, the thing that eats at the me the most isn't that we lost to Seattle. It's that the stupid smug-ass Seattle fans get to enjoy it before they get blown out in Green Bay.

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I agree. Once he missed that FG, everything began to fall apart.

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the SAME THING happened in 2005 when John Hall missed a field goal in the same kinda of situation...

SUCKS but w/e..

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Abso-fing-lutely. We need a new kicker and punter in the worst way. Neither of them are clutch and they have had ample opportunity here. I have completely lost my patience with Shuishank and Frust(rated)...

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;402594]I'm with you and it sucks.

Honestly, the thing that eats at the me the most isn't that we lost to Seattle. It's that the stupid smug-ass Seattle fans get to enjoy it before they get blown out in Green Bay.[/quote]

YEP!

Normally I'd like to say, well at least we lost to the guys who won the Superbowl...or at least we lost to the guys who lost to the guys who won the Superbowl...but unfortunately these Seahawks aren't going to get past the next round. I really feel like we've been robbed. I am having a hard time going to bed because I feel like I HAVE BEEN ROBBED, I find myself looking for my wallet over and over....Damn It.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;402592]I'm sorry, but there was too much MOJO going on for the Skins to lose this game. How perfect is that for Landry to get two INTs playing Sean's position. I swear, I was sitting there thinking, HOLY SHIT, that's Sean wearing #30. Landry had a great game, and represented big time.

Bottom Line: If Suisham makes that field goal Wii win. You can't miss a 30 yard field goal there...You just can't do it. I thought Gibbs was going to bite his lip off after that. That was the beginning of the end. 17-13 would have been good, but 14-13 gave them the chance they needed to come back and make the Skins pay. Suisham isn't living remotely close to D.C. next year.[/QUOTE]

Wii win?

Anyhow, horrible miss by Suisham but I still maintain we should have scored a TD on that drive anyway. Still, I don't like to pin everything on just one guy like that. I really like the sign that was displayed behind Gibbs during his post-game presser "Responsibility is a team sport."

I think some competition for Suisham in the preseason wouldn't hurt. Frost got hurt by penalties today

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I disagree. It should have never come to a FG. We get a gift on the kickoff, get a 1st and 10 inside their 20 up by 8 and we can't put them away. Our offensive line could not open holes for our RB's or protect QB. Plain and simple our O-line did not get it done against a godd but not great Defense. Our O-line made their defense look great and they are not. Our Kicker has some responsibility but out O-line has more of the blame.

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[quote=Defensewins;402611]I disagree. It should have never come to a FG. We get a gift on the kickoff, get a 1st and 10 inside their 20 up by 8 and we can't put them away. Our offensive line could not open holes for our RB's or protect QB. Plain and simple our O-line did not get it done against a godd but not great Defense. Our O-line made their defense look great and they are not. Our Kicker has some responsibility but out O-line has more of the blame.[/quote]


I can't disagree with that. Our O'line has to be accountable for not getting it done. However, going against that D-line, hell, that front 8 is pretty good...and with our injuries I won't put it all on them. You got to call plays that are to your advantage, and I didn't understand the playcalling all game...maybe that's just me.

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cooley dropping the ball on that same series was horrible. He catches that and 75% we get that TD. 21-13./

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;402610]Wii win?

[b]Anyhow, horrible miss by Suisham but I still maintain we should have scored a TD on that drive anyway.[/b] Still, I don't like to pin everything on just one guy like that. I really like the sign that was displayed behind Gibbs during his post-game presser "Responsibility is a team sport."

I think some competition for Suisham in the preseason wouldn't hurt. Frost got hurt by penalties today[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree here. Sure we can blame Suisham, but he'll just be the scapegoat. Moss could be the scapegoat too for giving up on that play when he should have expected a pass...how can you just walk away like that? Well, point is, there were a lot of plays we did not capitalize on, and that's that. It sucks, but Seattle outplayed us up front and on D.

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[quote=SmootSmack;402610]Wii win?

Anyhow, horrible miss by Suisham but I still maintain we should have scored a TD on that drive anyway. Still, I don't like to pin everything on just one guy like that. I really like the sign that was displayed behind Gibbs during his post-game presser "Responsibility is a team sport."

I think some competition for Suisham in the preseason wouldn't hurt. Frost got hurt by penalties today[/quote]

Exactly. When you get the ball on the 14 yard line you have to put that in the end zone. No excuses. The offense just didn't get the job done. I don't even blame the kicker.

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That missed field goal was a huge momentum shift. We were soo close to making a touchdown on that drive too.

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[quote=jsarno;402627]I absolutely agree here. Sure we can blame Suisham, but he'll just be the scapegoat. Moss could be the scapegoat too for giving up on that play when he should have expected a pass...how can you just walk away like that? Well, point is, there were a lot of plays we did not capitalize on, and that's that. It sucks, but Seattle outplayed us up front and on D.[/quote]


Moss quit on that route, no question. I just wonder, was ST whispering in his ear to quit. I mean he's been saying in all his interviews that ST is speaking through them, so WHAT?

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[quote=SmootSmack;402610]Wii win?

Anyhow, horrible miss by Suisham but I still maintain we should have scored a TD on that drive anyway. Still, I don't like to pin everything on just one guy like that. I really like the sign that was displayed behind Gibbs during his post-game presser "Responsibility is a team sport."

I think some competition for Suisham in the preseason wouldn't hurt. Frost got hurt by penalties today[/quote]

Absolutely. We should have had a TD. To pin it on Suisham is a cop-out. At least 11 guys had a shot at putting this thing away before he took the field.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;402642]Moss quit on that route, no question. I just wonder, was ST whispering in his ear to quit. I mean he's been saying in all his interviews that ST is speaking through them, so WHAT?[/QUOTE]

Well, according to "Angels in the Outfield", angels can not affect the play of the playoffs. Of course that's just a movie, but point remains, we played uninspired for all but about 3 minutes of the game.

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At least he made it close everybody. It was off by a matter of inches, not feet. Yes, the young kid wilted under the pressure. But think, it could've all been over before that after the first half. We lucked out on the Collins fumble-ruled-incompletion in the 2nd quarter, which could've put our deficit at three touchdowns. There were numerous pass rushes by SEA that could've resulted in blindside fumbles or, at the least, drive-killing sacks (not that there weren't a fair share of those; I'm just stating that by a stroke of luck (Sean?) there could've been more but weren't).

Bottom line is: how could a missed field goal worth 3 points loom as more of the deciding factor than piss-poor pass protection the first 3 quarters of the game when several potential scoring drives were snuffed out? I agree with the authors of the posts on this topic who thought not scoring a TD instead of settling for a possible field goal was more the momentum-killer. Sure, we had hope and promise, but the tale of the tape will show our blocking was pathetic and the single most momentum-killing aspect of this game. The lack of protection killed momentum for us for THREE WHOLE QUARTERS, not just 5 minutes as with the errant field goal.

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[quote=jsarno;402649]Well, according to "Angels in the Outfield", angels can not affect the play of the playoffs. Of course that's just a movie, but point remains, we played uninspired for all but about 3 minutes of the game.[/quote]

So you are not a believer?

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[QUOTE=Rock31;402650]At least he made it close everybody. It was off by a matter of inches, not feet. Yes, the young kid wilted under the pressure. But think, it could've all been over before that after the first half. We lucked out on the Collins fumble-ruled-incompletion in the 2nd quarter, which could've put our deficit at three touchdowns. There were numerous pass rushes by SEA that could've resulted in blindside fumbles or, at the least, drive-killing sacks (not that there weren't a fair share of those; I'm just stating that by a stroke of luck (Sean?) there could've been more but weren't).

Bottom line is: how could a missed field goal worth 3 points loom as more of the deciding factor than piss-poor pass protection the first 3 quarters of the game when several potential scoring drives were snuffed out? I agree with the authors of the posts on this topic who thought not scoring a TD instead of settling for a possible field goal was more the momentum-killer. Sure, we had hope and promise, but the tale of the tape will show our blocking was pathetic and the single most momentum-killing aspect of this game. The lack of protection killed momentum for us for THREE WHOLE QUARTERS, not just 5 minutes as with the errant field goal.[/QUOTE]

I have a lot of respect for your aspiring profession. Some of my best friends are meteorologists! But I never saw that downpour you promised...so you're on my shit list now :)

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;402656]So you are not a believer?[/QUOTE]

Not saying I am or I'm not, just pointing out what a movie said and that we didn't play like we had been playing.

I do believe in the power of the mind, if those players thought he was there, then he was. Whether or not he "actually" was is moot.

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I'm not going to blame Suisham for that field goal kick. It was a momentum shift, but we had 60 minutes to pound the Seahawks. We didn't do that. We only played for like 3 minutes the entire game. 57 minutes of the game was all Seahawks.

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LOL. That's why I'm glad I never want to live in a place and make weather decisions for a town littered with fecal stains. It has to be the biggest eyesore of the major cities and definitely the most dismal area in history. Downpour or no downpour, we probably still lose.

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It is not moot! He was there...perhaps YOU didn't see him!

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[quote=NinjaLink;402674]I'm not going to blame Suisham for that field goal kick. It was a momentum shift, but we had 60 minutes to pound the Seahawks. We didn't do that. We only played for like 3 minutes the entire game. 57 minutes of the game was all Seahawks.[/quote]

So, who are you going to blame? Yes we had 60 minutes to "pound the Seahawks". But we only had 7 minutes to put them away if some one had made that field goal.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;402677]It is not moot! He was there...perhaps YOU didn't see him![/QUOTE]

Whatever dude.
If you saw some other posts I've been making on other threads you'd understand my stance and not argue, but I understand you feel the need to lash out due to this loss. No biggie.
We as fans don't play, the players do, so yes it is moot. It only matters what they thought, not what we think.

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Suisham did blow it. This thread is about what was the momentum killer and that missed kick was it.

We need a kicker that is money from under 40 yards. That missed kick is unacceptable in a playoff game. As are his short kickoffs. Based on his resume with us thus far--the Skins should bring in ample competition for his job this summer IMO...

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;402679]So, who are you going to blame? Yes we had 60 minutes to "pound the Seahawks". But we only had 7 minutes to put them away if some one had made that field goal.[/QUOTE]

Why are you so insistent on blaming someone?

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[QUOTE=NYCSkin;402682]Suisham did blow it. This thread is about what was the momentum killer and that missed kick was it.

We need a kicker that is money from under 40 yards. That missed kick is unacceptable in a playoff game. As are his short kickoffs. Based on his resume with us thus far--the Skins should bring in ample competition for his job this summer IMO...[/QUOTE]

well he certainly did kill the momentum, no doubt about that. But he did not throw 2 ints, nor did he stop running a route that had a ball coming to him, nor did he get bitched slapped all day on the oline.

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He should have made that kick and Cooley HAS to make that catch.Ive heard people say Cooley is one of the best Tightends.He has to many drops and the team did tonight.Cooley makes that catch its 1st and goal at the 2

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;402606]YEP!

Normally I'd like to say, well at least we lost to the guys who won the Superbowl...or at least we lost to the guys who lost to the guys who won the Superbowl...but unfortunately these Seahawks aren't going to get past the next round. I really feel like we've been robbed. I am having a hard time going to bed because I feel like I HAVE BEEN ROBBED, I find myself looking for my wallet over and over....Damn It.[/quote]

Seattle was the better team today and they are a good football team. Especially at home. They earned the right to play a playoff game at home. Josh Brown made his FG's, our kicker did not. Our O-line got pushed around all game long, Seattle gave Hasselback time. Our wr's dropped some passes, Seattle's did not. Sometimes you have to tip your hat to the other team.

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[quote=SmootSmack;402683]Why are you so insistent on blaming someone?[/quote]

Am I?

I clearly blame the loss on Suisham.

There were opportunities beyond that, but that missed FG really screwed us!

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[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;402623]cooley dropping the ball on that same series was horrible. He catches that and 75% we get that TD. 21-13./[/QUOTE]


He drops a lot of balls

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[quote=jsarno;402687]well he certainly did kill the momentum, no doubt about that. But he did not throw 2 ints, nor did he stop running a route that had a ball coming to him, nor did he get bitched slapped all day on the oline.[/quote]

THANK YOU!!!

No, he didn't throw 2 ints. Hell, if he did, they would have been evened out by the two int's Landry got tonight. RIGHT? LOL

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[quote=jsarno;402687]well he certainly did kill the momentum, no doubt about that. But he did not throw 2 ints, nor did he stop running a route that had a ball coming to him, nor did he get bitched slapped all day on the oline.[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, I think the biggest reason we lost this game was our O line play.

But for me, the game swung, despite our bad O line play, when Suishank missed that kick. A four point lead at that point would have, I think, led to a win for us...

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suisham should have nailed the fg yes, but man our offense got the ball on like the 12 and we couldnt get it in, or even get a first down. thats not gonna win u playoff road games period.

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[quote=NYCSkin;402703]Don't get me wrong, I think the biggest reason we lost this game was our O line play.

But for me, the game swung, despite our bad O line play, when Suishank missed that kick. A four point lead at that point would have, I think, led to a win for us...[/quote]

thus, the name of the thread.

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If we had scored a TD, forget about it game over. But yeah I agree, the missed FG took the wind out of our sails and you could see that the Seahawks knew they just dodged a serious bullet and they went there and took advantage. Great job by them for seizing the moment.

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Yep...good for them for siezing the moment.

We should have put them away, but we didn't. PERIOD!

Man, next year is going to be even more brutal...Guarantee it!

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Suisham is a bit of a paradox. He seems to be great when we don't expect it, while missing the one we believe to be chipshots. He has missed quite a few of these short little dinks (and a PAT, for goodness sakes!) while nailing 40+ yarders in 150mph winds in the Meadowlands and in downpours at FedEx last week.

Who knows, maybe he becomes a consistent, all-pro kicker, but he sure makes me beat my head into walls right now.