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jdlea 08-10-2004 09:53 PM

A week late "I told you so"
 
I just want to remind everyone that back when I sat at a desk all day, before this site got a makeover I was a pretty active member of this site. And during that time I went to bat for Andre Lott, now a lot of you were quick to crucify me because I bashed your false God Ifeani Ohelete. I was ripped for saying that I like Andre Lott and that I hoped he would win the starting job in last season's competition at safety. Now look where Ifeani has landed...3rd String behind my boy Andre Lott. Lott even held off Sean Taylor for about a week in camp, which isn't too bad considering this has been Taylor's job to lose since he was selected fifth overall by the Skins. So, in conclusion, I believe Lott should bump Bowen from the starting slot because he sucks too.

Oh by the way, I'm also the biggest Ladell Betts hater on this site and for some reason I don't think he played last night. Hmmm...doesn't look too good for him after what Sultan did. :smashfrea

MTK 08-10-2004 10:15 PM

I'm not a big fan of Iffy myself.

As for Betts he's a little dinged up and didn't make the trip.

SmootSmack 08-10-2004 10:17 PM

You know, I kind of liked Khary Campbell yesterday

skinsfanthru&thru 08-10-2004 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]You know, I kind of liked Khary Campbell yesterday[/QUOTE]

same here as well as gari scott, both just seemed to be where ever the play was and/or making the play. and Sultan made some very nice cuts and runs last night.

Daseal 08-10-2004 10:28 PM

I wanted to see Scott Cloman get some balls.

Ohalate is fast, young, and talented. Lott did well, but I still like Iffy better. He showed up most of last year.

SmootSmack 08-10-2004 10:30 PM

Well it's official, Skinsfan and I are about to launch the Khary Campbell Fan Club, KFC for short

SKINSnCANES 08-11-2004 03:48 AM

are you guys going to have the four dollar meals menu, because those things rock!!!

And I think we might as well start bowen at SS because all we are going to need is a guy that hits hard. Taylor will pick anything thrown deep, so we'll let bowen knock a running back around after a screen play. Assuming bowen takes out the same aggression on the opposing team as he does no hes team members in practice...

NM Redskin 08-11-2004 04:56 AM

I don't know, this might be way out there, but I think Iffy 3rd string has to do with him and the whole holding out for more cash for the # 26. Gibbs says he wants Redskins with character and the whole thing, to me, seem to lack character. I can understand a player not wanting to give up his number for various reason, but to hold for more cash seems shallow. As far Lott is consider, I agree he looked good in HOFG, camp reports seem to say good things, hopefully they can find a way to get him on the feild.

Daseal 08-11-2004 07:56 AM

Uhh, I honestly think Ohalate got sick of Portis's constant bitching about the number and gave it up so they could move on. Why not get some cash out of him for it too. He didn't do a damn thing to hurt the team.

I've seen Bowen rock Redskins, but he always seems to whiff on the other team. Mr. Clean is useless.

MTK 08-11-2004 08:05 AM

I can't see Gibbs punishing a player like that. Iffy is #3 on the depth chart for a reason, but I highly doubt it's because he didn't want to give up his #.

cpayne5 08-11-2004 08:53 AM

I think Iffy is #3 because of who else is on the team. Mainly, Bowen and Taylor. Bowen is a better SS than Iffy and Taylor is a better FS. Last year, Iffy got on the field only because of the staff pushing Bowen into the FS role. This year, with the addition of Taylor, Bowen is going to be allowed to play his natural postion of SS.

Redskins_P 08-11-2004 09:09 AM

I think the problem with Iffy is that he doesn't fit in well w/ our defensive scheme. He's too damn SLOW.


I don't know about you guys, but did any of you see N.Clemons (D-lineman)? He put some pressure on the QB and I think he even got a sack!? As far as Betts goes....if this kid can't stay healthy then I think we should just trade him. McCullough, and Simon ran the ball ok. I've always been a fan of Sultan. I am also very dissapointed with Cartwright.......first he can gain a yard then once he breaks for a gain he fumbles.

memphisskin 08-11-2004 09:59 AM

We're going to need Betts in short yardage situations, Rock Cartwright is just too short & small to be consistently counted on in those situations. A lot of people didn't play this week, should we just dump those guys too? How about we wait a second before we go cutting former 2nd round picks?

I think Lott is first team because they are going to cut him or trade him. Think about it, Iffy was a starter last year and just signed a contract extension. And you always showcase guys you want to trade in the preseason. Taylor is clearly the goods, he's big, fast, and seemingly everywhere. I mean aren't free safeties normally on the right side of the formation? Then how did he get to the left side to make that pick he scored on? But I don't think it looks good for Lott, I think the coaching staff does like the guy but I'm not sure he's going to make the team unless he starts to make some plays.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 08-11-2004 10:25 AM

I don’t care where Andre Lott is on the depth chart right now. Basically, from what I understand, Lott is playing with the first team because he is far speedier than Ohalete. Ohalete can’t bring the blitz whereas Lott can. In my mind, until proven otherwise by solid play on Lott’s part, Ohalete is far superior to Lott as a free safety. Maybe Lott fits better in Williams’ system because we have no pass rush and need LBs and safeties to bring some heat, but that doesn’t make him the better player.

Simply because Stephen Davis was not involved in a lot of plays 2 years ago did not mean he was impotent, just that he didn’t fit Spurrier’s system.

Redskins_P 08-11-2004 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=memphisskin]We're going to need Betts in short yardage situations, Rock Cartwright is just too short & small to be consistently counted on in those situations. A lot of people didn't play this week, should we just dump those guys too? How about we wait a second before we go cutting former 2nd round picks?

I think Lott is first team because they are going to cut him or trade him. Think about it, Iffy was a starter last year and just signed a contract extension. And you always showcase guys you want to trade in the preseason. Taylor is clearly the goods, he's big, fast, and seemingly everywhere. I mean aren't free safeties normally on the right side of the formation? Then how did he get to the left side to make that pick he scored on? But I don't think it looks good for Lott, I think the coaching staff does like the guy but I'm not sure he's going to make the team unless he starts to make some plays.[/QUOTE]

If your looking at the defense from QB's perspective the FS is on the left side playing a little deeper than the SS on the right. I never said that we should "cut" Betts. I just think that if he can't stay healthy than why keep him? I don't think the redskins would cut him before seeking a trade. But then again that's just my opinion.

Dave Butz Baby! 08-11-2004 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Well it's official, Skinsfan and I are about to launch the Khary Campbell Fan Club, KFC for short[/QUOTE]

Can I get an eight piece box with sides of mashed potatoes and corn on the cob?

Thanks!

As far as Iffy goes, I think he is most likely one of players that Greg Blanche said had not bought into the system yet. From the Post, Sunday 8 August...

[i]
"You could see the lights come on, but not all at once," defensive coordinator Greg Blache said. "Guy by guy, you could see one guy bought in, then another bought in, and then finally you could see the ball start to roll. But right now, I can't tell you that everybody has bought in 100 percent.

"No, we still have a couple of guys who don't really believe, but they'll find out when we get into it that this isn't lip service. There will be a couple of guys who are shocked when we open up against Tampa and they're not in the lineup because they don't know what to do, or they're not in the lineup because they don't fight as hard as we want them to fight every instant of the way, and then I think if they're still here they'll figure it out."
[/i]

BossHog 08-11-2004 11:00 AM

Start Taylor at FS and Lott at SS!?


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