May the Schwartz be with you?
 

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Jim Shwartz possible Head Coach option . . . I don't know much about the guy, what do you all think?

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I like the connections to GW. For those of us who want GW as head coach, this is a good middle ground as far as I'm concerned.

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you just beat me to it, I'd just copied the url

This sounds bad as far as GW getting the gig. The last paragraph says the most, you would think that the coaches would've had some communication on the matter from DS.

Otherwise, I like what I've read about Schwartz.

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I know they can't announce a head coach right away without interviewing a few,but it still makes me nervous. I sure hope Greg W. is still in the mix. C'mon Danny,stay inside the organization.

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Wiki:

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Schwartz]Jim Schwartz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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Good resume

[url=http://www.titansradio.com/coaches/schwartz.html]Titans Radio: Titans Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz[/url]

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All the stuff about letting the coaches know and giving them indications blah blah blah is garbage...Unless they want to get their butts sued, they can't go around saying we're interviewing x number of candidates but *wink* *wink* we already have our man

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Doesn't this mean they intend to throw Williams over? I mean you don't need two ex-Titan DCs do you? And Williams would then be working for his former underling. Unless Schwartz qualifies as a minority under Rooney? I doubt he does.

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Maybe GW just wants to stay as D-Coordinator??

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I like any thread with a spaceballs reference.

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I dont want anyone over GW but i wont be upset with schwartz

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If you hire Schwartz and Williams leaves, you at least have some semblance of continuity since you're using the same system. Though you certainly lose Jerry Gray as your secondary coach if Grilliams leaves. But you're still in the end, running a system congruent with the roster we have (and will have for the next three years).

The real kicker will be if Saunders leaves. If Saunders jets, we'll be starting over on offense. Which would TOTALLY kill us. Then again, Saunders makes a lot of coin, so if he's not up for a HC job, he'll probably stay.

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If GW doesn't get the job, i'd give it about a 5% chance he'd stay as D coord.

I know nothing about Jim Schwartz at all. Matter of fact i've never even heard of him til now.

Why would you go after apprentice when you can have the mentor though?

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Maybe the Danny is orchestrating the hiring of the staff before the HC. Maybe Schwartz will become d coordinator w/GW as head coach. I could live w/that.

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[QUOTE]Some league sources have suggested Seattle defensive backs coach Jim Mora, a former head coach in Atlanta, as a possibility for the Redskins as well at some point[/QUOTE]

Oh please, please, please, please...

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Another bio:

[url=http://www.titansradio.com/coaches/schwartz.html]Titans Radio: Titans Defensive Coordinator Jim Schwartz[/url]

Interesting that he spent time as a scout.

And, obviously, he is not an individual who will satisfy the Rooney Rule.

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[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;405590]All the stuff about letting the coaches know and giving them indications blah blah blah is garbage...Unless they want to get their butts sued, they can't go around saying we're interviewing x number of candidates but *wink* *wink* we already have our man[/quote]

True, but from the last paragraph of JLC's blog, I don't take it that way. It sounds like DS hasn't even communicated w/the coaches, which is a far cry from telling someone they have the job. Seems if you knew who you wanted to hire, you'd at least have the proffessional courtesy to communicate something to them when they're currently on your pay roll.

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[QUOTE=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;405590]All the stuff about letting the coaches know and giving them indications blah blah blah is garbage...Unless they want to get their butts sued, they can't go around saying we're interviewing x number of candidates but *wink* *wink* we already have our man[/QUOTE]

I think that happened in Detroit when they hired Mariucci. As I recall, they got slammed. I don't remember, however, if Matt "I was a teenage GM" Millen even interviewed a minority candidate.

BTW - with the various openings, I find it interesting that one of last years hot coaches is not even being mentioned - Rob Rivera. I wonder why that is, especially since he seems to fit the Rooney Rule.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;405605]True, but from the last paragraph of JLC's blog, I don't take it that way. It sounds like DS hasn't even communicated w/the coaches, which is a far cry from telling someone they have the job. Seems if you knew who you wanted to hire, you'd at least have the proffessional courtesy to communicate something to them when they're currently on your pay roll.[/QUOTE]
If Gibbs is going to be Snyder's advisor,start advising already. Well there is always a chance Gibbs don't want GW to get the gig,but that's hard to fathom.

I guess we will just have to continue to pull our hair out and wait and see.

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I'm seriously wondering if the text of the Rooney Rule says "minority" or "African-American" or what? I can't find any actual text and all the articles I've read use the two terms interchangably as if they meant exactly the same thing. A little help?

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I can't find anything either except what I already know about the rule which isn't too much.

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The Rooney Rule doesn't apply to assistant coaches promoted to being Head Coach, which in this case, would apply to Gregg Williams...

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[quote=BDBohnzie;405612]The Rooney Rule doesn't apply to assistant coaches promoted to being Head Coach, which in this case, would apply to Gregg Williams...[/quote]


Not so. The assistant has to have a clause in his contract promising him the job, which Williams never had apparently.

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That's what I get for quickly browsing what I was reading instead of reading it fully...

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[QUOTE]The Rooney Rule, named for Steelers owner Dan Rooney, requires teams to interview at least one [B]minority[/B] candidate when filling a head coaching position -- or be fined.
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I tried to post a link but i can't... i don't have 10 posts yet.

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[quote=stone;405616]I tried to post a link but i can't... i don't have 10 posts yet.[/quote]


Yeah, quotes like that are all over the place. What I was hoping to see was something that the league actually put out like, you know, Artcle II Section 7 "Promoting Diversity" All NFL teams, blah, blah, bah.

I know the CBA is on the net, but I don't know if the leagues by-laws or whatever are. Somebody here should know. That Guy? GTripp? Canuck? Earthquake?

Did more looking: This article seems to indicate that "minority" is the operative term:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2750645]ESPN - Thanks to Rooney Rule, doors opened - NFL[/url]

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titans defense this year is overrated and solely dependent on Hynesworths play, without him the titans defense is not better the GW's defense. yes they came from the same titans great superbowl run defense, but GW is more familiar here, with player's support and has learned from Gibb's and from his previous mistake as a HC of the Bills. Im still for GW. please Mr. snyder.

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Perhaps Gibbs is not endorsing GW as head coach. Knowing how much Danny respects Gibbs you would have to think that Gibbs and Dan have discussed the possibility of GW as head coach behind closed doors. Although Gibbs would not say anything publicly he would surely give Dan his true feelings about GW behind closed doors. Maybe Gibbs thinks GW is just a DC and not the best choice as HC. I firmly believe that if Gibbs 100% endorced GW as his successor that he would be the lead candidate without question.

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I think this is all smoke and mirrors. They know it's going to be Gregg and all the coaches know it's going to be Gregg, but they aren't letting anyone on. I'm hoping that Joe discussed this with Dan during that conversation that lasted to 2 in the morning. I'm hoping that Joe and Dan talked to the coaches and let them know what was going to happen, or maybe no one knows but Gregg, Joe, and Dan. That they know Gregg is getting it but are pretty much saying to the media, "I'm not gonna tell, your feet smell, you ask me again and you can go to hell"

I'm hoping that's the way it's going to go. That Gregg will be named coach, but not until everyone proclaims that The Danny is going to sign whatever coach they want to say he will. Maybe Dan learned from Joe. Let's hope for our sakes.

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I think they are just trying to line up a few candidates while playing the PR game with our heads, like..........lets make them wait and get more and more intrigued about Greg for a week or so, then we will hit um with the goods...................."And your next coach for the Washington Redskins, Greg Williams"! – hopeful / wishful thinking I presume.

Then we will all be so excited about our team and continue to waste our hard earned dollars on more Redskins Merchandise and ticket increases..

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I too think this is all smoke and mirrors. They'll annouce it in due time. Unofficially, I wouldn't be surprised if the players already know that it's Williams.

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[quote=12thMan;405627]I too think this is all smoke and mirrors. They'll annouce it in due time. Unofficially, I wouldn't be surprised if the players already know that it's Williams.[/quote]

I hope you're right. They certainly are doing everything they can to promote uncertainty.

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They are playing games with the media, they are making people like JLC speculate all kinds of different scenarios. They already know that GW is the man, for political correctness reasons they have to act the part and throw people for a loop. Just look at us fans.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;405631]They are playing games with the media, they are making people like JLC speculate all kinds of different scenarios. They already know that GW is the man, for political correctness reasons they have to act the part and throw people for a loop. Just look at us fans.[/quote]


If they are playing games, they are doing it with the wrong guy. Schwartz is not a "minority".

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[QUOTE=scowan;405632]If they are playing games, they are doing it with the wrong guy. Schwartz is not a "minority".[/QUOTE]

They still need to interview a minority coach, possibly Singletary (whom I like a lot) one interview at a time.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;405597]If you hire Schwartz and Williams leaves, you at least have some semblance of continuity since you're using the same system. Though you certainly lose Jerry Gray as your secondary coach if Grilliams leaves. But you're still in the end, running a system congruent with the roster we have (and will have for the next three years).

The real kicker will be if Saunders leaves. If Saunders jets, we'll be starting over on offense. Which would TOTALLY kill us. Then again, Saunders makes a lot of coin, so if he's not up for a HC job, he'll probably stay.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's indeed a big issue, as JC was reported in the Post this morning as having expressed fear that the HC change might ultimately trigger a series of changes that could result in him having to learn yet another offensive system. Both Saunders and Williams were hand-picked by Gibbs. Gibbs is now gone, and if Williams doesn't get the job, I think most of us agree that he's gone too. That might make the job less attractive for Saunders, or, alternatively, the exiting of both the HC and D-coordinator might have management thinking of a complete makeover. The Post also indicated yesterday that the HC hiring might have the organization thinking more along the lines of a long-term future. This strikes me as there being a possibility that Danny might actually be entertaining--cover the children's ears--REBUILDING. I know I'll get slammed for even suggesting that the Danny could EVER, or would EVER, consider such a thing. But Danny knows that this team ended the year as cohesive a group as one could be. The extent of the fracture created by Gibbs leaving, he knows, would be dependent on whether there is continuity (i.e., hiring or not hiring Williams). If he doesn't hire Williams, he takes two instrumental members of the leadership team from this tight knit group, and creates the possibility of Saunders leaving. Then he'd be talking about a complete makeover on the team, from both sides of the ball (in terms of new systems). And if he hopefully learned anything from his years here, he knows that new systems simply don't start working overnight. That is why I think there is that slightest of possibilities that, if he's considering not hiring Williams, he might actually consider some very deep changes to the roster and to build up.

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I think the team's actions say they don't intend to hire GW at all. I think that's wishful thinking on our part. Consider:

1) Bringing in Schwartz for an interview may mean they intend to interview him to be the DC and work UNDER Gregg Williams. But this would mean that JLC's "league sources" are wrong in saying Schwartz has been identified as a head coach candidate. And wouldn't it be wierd for Schwartz to come here to interview for a lateral move? Jeff Fisher and the Titans don't have to grant permission to let him interview for lateral moves.

2) JLC indicated in his blog that "team and league sources" indicated that the Skins are interested in Cowher. It seems Cowher doesn't want to coach yet. But if the team was really interested, that points to the team not being totally thrilled with Williams. Neither Cowher nor Schwartz are minorities, so they're not here to satisfy the Rooney rule. The fact that their names surfaced first tells me they're likely towards the top of Danny's list.

3) Gibbs is telling the media that the coaching search is Dan's decision and he respects that. He'll be there to advise Dan. Dan is saying "we'll go through a process." There's not much process to go through if you already think GW is your guy. And what motive is there to hide your feeling that GW is your guy? There's nothing to gain by hiding that sentiment and playing coy. He's under contract here already, and if you want to promote him, you just promote him. The fact that we haven't seen GW promoted at this point tells me Snyder is AT LEAST thinking about other candidates. And given that Cowher and Schwartz are now connected to the vacancy, if you ended up hiring GW, doesn't that say you're settling on him? After all, you knew what you had in GW, but you looked around at Cowher and Schwartz thinking you could do better. That's got to tell you that you're not thrilled with GW in the first place.

4) I guess it's possible Dan is throwing up major smokescreens and trying to confuse the media and throw people off the scent. But that seems like a conspiracy theory. Wouldn't Dan's time be better spent by actually trying to find a coach.

It's not going to be GW folks. I'm not sure if Gibbs agrees with that, though. Publicly, he's supporting his coaches, but he's not saying GW should be the next guy. He's saying Dan should go through the process and make the decision. It seems Gibbs may not see GW as head coach material. And if Gibbs thinks that, then I'm cool with the decision. If Gibbs is involved with this process, I feel good about his ability to identify the intangible leadership qualities a good coach has to have. And if that eschews GW, then I trust that call. But if Snyder is making this decision on his own, then I'm uncomfortable.

Fortunately, I think Snyder's listening to Gibbs. I hope.

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[quote=MonkFan4Life;405623]I think this is all smoke and mirrors. They know it's going to be Gregg and all the coaches know it's going to be Gregg, but they aren't letting anyone on. I'm hoping that Joe discussed this with Dan during that conversation that lasted to 2 in the morning. I'm hoping that Joe and Dan talked to the coaches and let them know what was going to happen, or maybe no one knows but Gregg, Joe, and Dan. That they know Gregg is getting it but are pretty much saying to the media, "I'm not gonna tell, your feet smell, you ask me again and you can go to hell"

I'm hoping that's the way it's going to go. That Gregg will be named coach, but not until everyone proclaims that The Danny is going to sign whatever coach they want to say he will. Maybe Dan learned from Joe. Let's hope for our sakes.[/quote]

Good post. i was thinking of starting a thread to pose the question: What does the Danny have to gain by fooling everyone & prolonging this? I thought that maybe he's trying to affect other teams in their hiring process, but what would be his gain?

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[quote=freddyg12;405641]Good post. i was thinking of starting a thread to pose the question: What does the Danny have to gain by fooling everyone & prolonging this? I thought that maybe he's trying to affect other teams in their hiring process, but what would be his gain?[/quote]

There is nothing to gain by doing that. I can't think of one reason why. It's a waste of a billionaire's time, and they view time as money.

He's not interested in GW.

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If it is Schwartz, then "Yay Me!"

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I am freakin' awesome. Every single one of you blasted me for it. But who's blastin' now bitches?! (see how lame it sounds when you say stuff like that?)