Do you trust Snyder?
 

Based on past history and what Snyder claims that he has learned from Gibbs tenure, do you trust him to do the right thing in the coaching search? (mods can you do a yes/no poll)

I'm not a huge fan of Gregg Williams, but all the players seem to support him and Bill Cowher's not walking thru that door people. For the sake of continuity and locker room politics it seems like Grilliams is the way to go, but will Snyder do the right thing?

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I am all for continuity. Can Al saunders and gregg williams just be dual head coaches? I think we are starting to grasp the offense that saunders has brought and I like what GW did this year on defense. But i don't think GW can effectively be the D coordinator and head coach. and is it me or does gregg williams just not seem to have that leadership feel? I guess GW should have the chance to be head coach as much as anyone since everyone is a wild card at this point and he keeps the most continuity.

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I'd do a poll but I'm unclear on the question on you're asking. Is it "Will Snyder Do the Right Thing?" or "Will Snyder Name Williams Head Coach?" Those aren't necessarily the same thing

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;405995]I'd do a poll but I'm unclear on the question on you're asking. Is it "Will Snyder Do the Right Thing?" or "Will Snyder Name Williams Head Coach?" Those aren't necessarily the same thing[/QUOTE]

Will Snyder do the right thing.

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Pretty loaded question I'd say

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[quote=Paintrain;405996]Will Snyder do the right thing.[/quote]


Possibly. But we need to define "the right thing." For Snyder, as for any other owner, doing the right thing means delegating the decisions to someone who knows what they are doing. In other words, making the decision himself would not be doing the right thing.

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No matter what he does there will be a bunch of fussing from people. I can see it starting already. A lot of people are already set on Williams and anything else is a huge mistake. My advice is to keep an open mind and relax. The process has just begun.

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But couldn't Snyder just play along for once? What's all the suspense about? He could nip this right in the bud quickly, I would think.

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Snyder will definitely do what he thinks will help the redskins win. whether or not its the right thing......

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[quote=12thMan;406005]But couldn't Snyder just play along for once? What's all the suspense about? He could nip this right in the bud quickly, I would think.[/quote]

You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;406008]You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL[/QUOTE]

Hey hey HEY!!! Stop with the demand for logic and consistency. Jeez, next you'll want everyone to be rational.

I prefer obtuseness, it promotes discussion and gives me something to do in the offseason.

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[quote=Mattyk72;406008]You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL[/quote]

Ha! That is funny. It is true, the guy just can't win with the fans, regardless of what he does. However, the reason he can't win is because he hasn't won, and the longer he goes without fielding a championship-caliber team, the more his judgments will be questioned.

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[quote=Coff;406000]Possibly. But we need to define "the right thing." For Snyder, as for any other owner, doing the right thing means delegating the decisions to someone who knows what they are doing. In other words, making the decision himself would not be doing the right thing.[/quote]
He is the freaking owner of the team and I have never heard of an owner turning over hiring of his head coach to someone else. so Thats crazy to think doing the right thing is letting someone else hire your coach. Yes I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh role in thid decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say.

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[quote=Coff;406021]Ha! That is funny. It is true, the guy just can't win with the fans, regardless of what he does. However, the reason he can't win is because he hasn't won, and the longer he goes without fielding a championship-caliber team, the more his judgments will be questioned.[/quote]
Well he hired Gibbs to field that championship team and Gibbs failed to get us their but he was looked at as a success. So what are the standards to judge a coach? I'm sure if GW takes over the team and leads us to a few playoff games and an over all loosing record he will not be looked at as a success.

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I say yes and no.

Yes, he will hire GW as head coach...good move for consistancy.

No, he will blow the golden opportunity to get a GM in here to fix team for the long haul

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[quote=firstdown;406032]He is the freaking owner of the team and [B]I have never heard of an owner turning over hiring of his head coach to someone else[/B]. so Thats crazy to think doing the right thing is letting someone else hire your coach. Yes I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh role in thid decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say.[/quote]

Depends on the owner. Some GM's make those kind of calls and basically run the whole show.

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[QUOTE=Coff;406000]Possibly. But we need to define "the right thing." For Snyder, as for any other owner, doing the right thing means delegating the decisions to someone who knows what they are doing. In other words, making the decision himself would not be doing the right thing.[/QUOTE]i think the question should be something along the lines of [B]Yes or No: "Do you trust Snyder to make the best football decision for this team as opposed to trying to make a major splash (aka Spurrier 2.0)"[/B]

It seems like the majority of the players want Williams to be the next head coach and as of now we have no word as to whether or not he's even going to get an interview. Something about that doesn't sit well with me.

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[quote=Paintrain;405985]Based on past history and what Snyder claims that he has learned from Gibbs tenure, do you trust him to do the right thing in the coaching search? (mods can you do a yes/no poll)

I'm not a huge fan of Gregg Williams, but all the players seem to support him and Bill Cowher's not walking thru that door people. For the sake of continuity and locker room politics it seems like Grilliams is the way to go, but will Snyder do the right thing?[/quote]

No. I don't trust him at all. He's probably going to go back to his old ways now that Gibbs isn't around. Gibbs is the only guy that I think Snyder really really respects.

Not to hijack this but I've seen a lot of people say they don't like GW. Why? 3 out of 4 years he has had a top 10 defense with what I would call average to slightly above average talent. Meanwhile, Gibbs side of the ball, which is the offense, has had trouble scoring points all 4 years he was here. Basically the defense has carried the team and if there was any kind of offense in 04 we make the playoffs. For the life of me I don't understand why people don't like GW.

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i,ll say it again whatever danny boy decides ...let it take it,s course and i hope the danny does whats right for the redskins in deciding on the next head coach.

do i trust synder ...well ummmm..he has the money and will get whoever he chooses so i remain mum ..i will wait on that decision.
if it aint broke ,don,t fix it.....

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No, Synder is a marketing guy who will always look at this team as a money making scheme. If he wanted to bring a super bowl back to d.c. he would have hired people who know about football. We need a GM plain and simple. We need a president as well. Vinny just does not know what he is doing. We need a GM first then a coach. We need to hire Chris Polian to be the GM (Colts). We need to hire young coach who will be here for the next 10 years instead of the turnover we have had over the last several years. We need to start building through the draft as well as make a little splash in free agency. Let fix our front office first then address our head coach. The only thing that should be a must is Saunders remaining as the offensive coordinator as well as making him the quarterback coach. Again I say this SYNDER WILL NOT DO THE REASONABLE THING FOR THIS TEAM SINCE HE DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GAME OF FOOTBALL BUT HE CAN MARKET HIS TEAM THOUGH!! Until we get some proper structure in the front office which leads to coaching we will not win a super bowl nor will we reach it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;406050]No. I don't trust him at all. He's probably going to go back to his old ways now that Gibbs isn't around. Gibbs is the only guy that I think Snyder really really respects.

Not to hijack this but I've seen a lot of people say they don't like GW. Why? 3 out of 4 years he has had a top 10 defense with what I would call average to slightly above average talent. Meanwhile, Gibbs side of the ball, which is the offense, has had trouble scoring points all 4 years he was here. Basically the defense has carried the team and if there was any kind of offense in 04 we make the playoffs. For the life of me I don't understand why people don't like GW.[/quote]

An overwhelming majority are in favor of Williams taking over according to our poll (76%).

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[quote=skinsnut;406039]I say yes and no.

Yes, he will hire GW as head coach...good move for consistancy.

No, he will blow the golden opportunity to get a GM in here to fix team for the long haul[/quote]



Yes, because a GM is the cure-all to all of our woes. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks Snyder knows what he's doing now. I feel like he's tweaked a flawed system, and has finally turned a major corner...

IMO our F.O. has done an outstanding job since Gibbs has taken over the reigns. I'll tend to agree here with Snyder. If it aint broke, don't fix it. I guess we'll see.

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President? GM? Those are just titles really.

Anyhow, we obviously are looking at young coaches (heck even Williams is only 49). We have been building some depth through the draft, expect more now as we keep most of our picks, we are making small splashes in free agency.

Look, this all goes back to was Gibbs able to reshape the culture at Redskins Park during his four years here. Obviously we don't know for sure. But we'll always have those who are deadset against ever thinking Snyder actually cares about this team and he's just looking to profit. Dick Clark Productions, Six Flags, Johnny Rockets those are his "business" The Redskins are his passion.

Has he made mistakes? Of course. Will he make more? No question. But to say he's not putting forth any effort, and to just assume that everything Gibbs worked toward establishing is automatically gone now is crazy.

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[QUOTE=RobH4413;406062]Yes, because a GM is the cure-all to all of our woes. I know I'm not the only one here that thinks Snyder knows what he's doing now. I feel like he's tweaked a flawed system, and has finally turned a major corner...

IMO our F.O. has done an outstanding job since Gibbs has taken over the reigns. I'll tend to agree here with Snyder. If it aint broke, don't fix it. I guess we'll see.[/QUOTE]

I heart you

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Do I trust Snyder? Implicitly

I mean... Death to Dan Snyder!

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He will do the right thing if his hire does not require major changes in the locker room and on the rest of the coaching staff. I think we got a good thing going.

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I trust his intentions...he cares deeply about the redskins. However, I do not trust his decision making when it comes to football matters.

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[quote=Mattyk72;406008]You know it's funny. Snyder stated that one of the things he has learned from Gibbs is patience. Some of us applauded that, but now here we are begging for him to make a quick decision. LOL[/quote]

I know what you're saying, but could look at it a couple of ways though. Snyder has already interviewed 1 candidate & that's confirmed, and according to another post here he may be on the way to talk to Grimm.

For all we know, it's his impatience that's driving these meetings, rather than being patient & talking to the in-house candidates.

Don't get me wrong, to be thorough he's got to talk to all of these guys before they're scooped up by other teams, but at the same time his eagerness to set up interviews w/them could be due to looking for the theoretical quick fix hire, rather than patiently working through the details of keeping this staff intact. I don't know one way or another, but I think there are signs of DS reverting to past form.

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No in-house disgussion necessary. GW knows he has the job Dan S. is just making his rounds. Done deal pal.... GW all the way!

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[quote=freddyg12;406087]I know what you're saying, but could look at it a couple of ways though. Snyder has already interviewed 1 candidate & that's confirmed, and according to another post here he may be on the way to talk to Grimm.

For all we know, it's his impatience that's driving these meetings, rather than being patient & talking to the in-house candidates.

Don't get me wrong, to be thorough he's got to talk to all of these guys before they're scooped up by other teams, but at the same time his eagerness to set up interviews w/them could be due to looking for the theoretical quick fix hire, rather than patiently working through the details of keeping this staff intact. I don't know one way or another, but I think there are signs of DS reverting to past form.[/quote]

I think you may be reaching a bit here.

If he already knows what he has in-house, and by now I'm sure there have been some in-house discussions with Williams, I don't think the fact he's out there interviewing other coaches should be misconstrued has him not being patient.

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[quote=Mattyk72;406091]I think you may be reaching a bit here.

If he already knows what he has in-house, and by now I'm sure there have been some in-house discussions with Williams, I don't think the fact he's out there interviewing other coaches should be misconstrued has him not being patient.[/quote]

I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?

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Why wouldn't we trust Snyder? He did bring Joe back in the first place. Don't think anyone saw that coming. It wouldn't be smart for Dan to just give the keys to this Franchise away to GW without a proper process. He's too smart for that.

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My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.

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[QUOTE=Dlyne8r;406101]My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.[/QUOTE]

A revolution!

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The fact that he interviewed a no-name like Schwartz tells me that Snyder's not necessarily going for the biggest name guys anymore. Perhaps he's trying to unearth the next Joe Gibbs, who was also largely anonymous when he came here the first time at a similar age to Schwartz.

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[quote=freddyg12;406098]I am reaching a tad bit, but I don't think you can ignore the timing & speed of the last 2 days. Hopefully there have been in house discussions & they've managed to keep them on the serious down low & not leak to anybody. My point is that simply on the surface w/out knowing any more than we do, Snyder's behavior thus far since Gibbs announcement doesn't give the fans much confidence that he indeed has changed.

I guess I agree w/JLC who said that his "vow of silence" hurts his image & leads to speculation about him wanting to hire from the outside. We're all speculating here anyway, but I'll also say that Shneed has good points about all signs so far indicating he'll not hire GW. Whether any of it can be chalked up to impatience or not, I don't know, but it does seem that Snyder is showing early signs of his old ways.

Maybe he's just trying to increase traffic on redskins.com?[/quote]
He interviewed one coach and now he is back to his old ways. No one has a clue what going on so why not wait until after the decision is made and hear why they were made before we jump to conclusions about what he is doing.

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[quote=Dlyne8r;406101]My perception of Snyder changed dramatically for the good after Sean Taylor's death. He did everything a human could do to help not only Taylor's family, but the Redskins organization as a whole. However, if he doesn't even give Williams at least a sniff of the H.C. position, I will have lost whatever respect I regained for him. If what I've read and heard is true, if Williams is not named as Gibbs replacement, the majority of the locker room will revolt.[/quote]
So what now hiring a head coach is a popolarity contest. If you polled my employees if they would like friday's off they would vote 100% yes. If I don't give them Friday off are they going to quite or revolt? NO. He is still the owner and they are the employees and if they did revolt then maybe they are not of the carater as we thought of them after the season. If Gibbs did not want GW to replace him will you still feel the same way?

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To answer the original question posed by this thread: Not by a long shot. I'm optimistic. I HOPE he's going to make good decisions. But I will not believe it until I see it.

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[quote=firstdown;406032]He is the freaking owner of the team and I have never heard of an owner turning over hiring of his head coach to someone else. so Thats crazy to think doing the right thing is letting someone else hire your coach. Yes I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh role in thid decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say.[/quote]

"I have never heard of an owner turning over the firing of this head coach to someone else."
"I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh[sic} role in thid[sic] decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say."

What on earch did you think I was suggesting? Of course Snyder will have the final say, but I would only have faith in his making the right decision if he discusses it with other people in the FO.

Essentially by saying that you want Gibbs to have a "hugh" role in the decision, you are supporting my original point. Thanks.

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[quote=Coff;406126]"I have never heard of an owner turning over the firing of this head coach to someone else."
"I'm sure Gibbs will have a hugh[sic} role in thid[sic] decision but it all comes back to Snyder for the final say."

What on earch did you think I was suggesting? Of course Snyder will have the final say, but I would only have faith in his making the right decision if he discusses it with other people in the FO.

Essentially by saying that you want Gibbs to have a "hugh" role in the decision, you are supporting my original point. Thanks.[/quote]
Ok, I must of misunderstood what you said.