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SmootSmack 01-12-2008 02:06 PM

ESPN: Redskins to Interview G. Williams Today
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3193242]ESPN - Source: Williams set to interview with Redskins - NFL[/url]

chrisl13 01-12-2008 02:11 PM

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Yes!
Thank You!
He'll get the job for sure

WillH 01-12-2008 02:13 PM

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Interesting, considering the time line set by JLC. I hope the Colts lose so we can get this squared away as soon as possible.

Do you think this means anything about GW's status as front runner since he was supposed to be the last interview?

skinsguy 01-12-2008 02:34 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;406398][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3193242]ESPN - Source: Williams set to interview with Redskins - NFL[/url][/QUOTE]

SmootSmack,

You mentioned in another thread that there might be a certain issue that would keep Williams from getting the job. Do you think this issue might have been cleared up? I really thought Gregg wouldn't get his interview until a week down the road.

dmek25 01-12-2008 02:39 PM

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[quote=chrisl13;406399]Yes!
Thank You!
[B]He'll get the job for sure[/B][/quote]
why do you say this? I've seen alot weirder things from the skins since Snyder took over

jrtmolar 01-12-2008 02:48 PM

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even if Snyder decides he is the guy its going to be weeks till the choice is made public due to the Rooney rule possibilities being on the colts. Thats what really sucks. I hope if Snyder does want Williams he at least gives him an idea he is the guy instead of having him be in limbo until the colts are knocked out

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 02:50 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;406402]SmootSmack,

You mentioned in another thread that there might be a certain issue that would keep Williams from getting the job. Do you think this issue might have been cleared up? I really thought Gregg wouldn't get his interview until a week down the road.[/QUOTE]

Haven't heard anything new. But I imagine it is close to being resolved. i've been kind of out of the loop since yesterday morning. Had actual work to do :)

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 02:56 PM

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Does the Rooney rule apply if they hire within the organization? Do they have to waste peoples time on an interview if GW is the guy (which IMO he is the guy NO DOUBT that will end up being our next Head Coach), on a minority interview?

skinsguy 01-12-2008 02:56 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;406405]Haven't heard anything new. But I imagine it is close to being resolved. i've been kind of out of the loop since yesterday morning. Had actual work to do :)[/QUOTE]


Come on Smooty! This is much bigger than your livelihood...LOL! ;)

I would love to be a fly on the wall during the interview process.

skinsguy 01-12-2008 03:01 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;406406]Does the Rooney rule apply if they hire within the organization? Do they have to waste peoples time on an interview if GW is the guy (which IMO he is the guy NO DOUBT that will end up being our next Head Coach), on a minority interview?[/QUOTE]


I believe the rule does apply regardless. At my workplace, if my boss offers me a promotion, they actually have to come up with a title (ie I'd get promoted from software specialist to senior software specialist) and they have to advertise for it and interview x number of candidates. It's probably the same thing. The only thing I wonder about is if Gibbs had stepped down midseason and Gregg Williams had taken over as coach, would there have been an interview process at the end of the season to make everything "legal"?

chrisl13 01-12-2008 03:04 PM

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[quote=dmek25;406403]why do you say this? I've seen alot weirder things from the skins since Snyder took over[/quote]

I'm sorry, i hope he gets the job

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 03:09 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;406408]I believe the rule does apply regardless. At my workplace, if my boss offers me a promotion, they actually have to come up with a title (ie I'd get promoted from software specialist to senior software specialist) and they have to advertise for it and interview x number of candidates. It's probably the same thing. The only thing I wonder about is if Gibbs had stepped down midseason and Gregg Williams had taken over as coach, would there have been an interview process at the end of the season to make everything "legal"?[/quote]

After looking into this rooney rule this might not apply to the Redskins or GW being promoted to head coach at all, depends on his contract language.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule"]Rooney Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL]

Redskins_P 01-12-2008 03:10 PM

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Hopefully everything goes well in the interview and GW gets the job.

I wonder what happens to Saunders if GW gets the job? Do you guys think he'll stick around?

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 03:17 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;406414]After looking into this rooney rule this might not apply to the Redskins or GW at all, depends on his contract language.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule"]Rooney Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, Williams' contract didn't have that language in it. But Caldwell isn't the only minority candidate out there. There are plenty of other qualified candidates out there (if they don't want to wait).

WillH 01-12-2008 03:20 PM

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[quote=Redskins_P;406415]Hopefully everything goes well in the interview and GW gets the job.

[B] I wonder what happens to Saunders if GW gets the job? Do you guys think he'll stick around?[/B][/quote]

There is no reason for him not to. He probably isnt going to get any HC offers, and it would take another two years to teach a different team his system if he were to be OC elsewhere. If it is up to him I am sure he'll stay. So it is really up to the next HC, and if that is GW Id be surprised if he sent him packing.

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 03:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;406415]Hopefully everything goes well in the interview and GW gets the job.

I wonder what happens to Saunders if GW gets the job? Do you guys think he'll stick around?[/QUOTE]

I hope he does. We certainly seemed to be making progress under his offensive game plan. I wish there was someone on the offensive coaching staff who stood out as being able to step up to a more prominent role. On the defensive side if Williams were to leave or move up to HC, you know someone like Jerry Gray is capable of stepping into the DC (or Asst. Head Coach-Defense) role. But if the same happened with Saunders, is there someone on the staff that could step up? I don't know that there is? Byner? Hixon?

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 03:21 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;406417]Unfortunately, Williams' contract didn't have that language in it. But Caldwell isn't the only minority candidate out there. There are plenty of other qualified candidates out there (if they don't want to wait).[/quote]

Greg Blache

Redskins247 01-12-2008 03:22 PM

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[QUOTE=WillH;406419]There is no reason for him not to. He probably isnt going to get any HC offers, and it would take another two years to teach a different team his system if he were to be OC elsewhere. If it is up to him I am sure he'll stay. So it is really up to the next HC, and if that is GW Id be surprised if he sent him packing.[/QUOTE]

I agree and HOPE that you are right in that...nothing would please me and at least 300,000 people more!

skinsguy 01-12-2008 03:23 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan_nn;406414]After looking into this rooney rule this might not apply to the Redskins or GW at all, depends on his contract language.
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooney_Rule"]Rooney Rule - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL][/QUOTE]

True.

"On the December 19-20 conference calls, the owners strongly agreed on the principle that any club seeking to hire a head coach will interview one or more minority applicants for the position. The one exception occurs when a club has made a prior contractual commitment to promote a member of its own staff and no additional interviewing takes place (e.g. Mike Martz and the St. Louis Rams in 2000)."

But I'm wondering exactly how Gregg Williams' contract is worded concerning this. If his contract would say something like, "If the head coach resigns or is fired, you will be promoted as the new Redskins head coach," then all this interviewing is nothing more than a smokescreen to work out details of Williams' head coaching contract. If, on the other hand, it states, "If the head coach resigns or is fired, you will be a candidate to replace the head coach" that might be taken differently. He would be a candidate for the job, but it isn't to say that he would be the next head coach. This would mean to me that the Rooney Rule would apply in this situation.

Speaking of Williams' contract, does he or does he not have a clause in his contract that states he receives a million dollars if he is not selected as the Redskins next head coach? I have heard he does and I have heard he doesn't.

WillH 01-12-2008 03:27 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;406417]Unfortunately, Williams' contract didn't have that language in it. But Caldwell isn't the only minority candidate out there. There are plenty of other qualified candidates out there (if they don't want to wait).[/quote]

This all seems so hokey. I understand the need for the rule. In fact I'm a strong supporter of equal opportunity and all that, but this seems to have become very artificial if you ask me. Well, I guess it is working to some degree, Tomlin got his job because of it. It is frustrating as a Skins fan right now, but its worth it for the sake of overall equality.

I guess my point is, Id rather see the redskins take a serious look at the guy from the Colts if they think that is the best minority coach option then dick around with someone they have no intention of really even considering.

Not that that is what you were saying just ranting...

skinsguy 01-12-2008 03:27 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;406417]Unfortunately, Williams' contract didn't have that language in it. But Caldwell isn't the only minority candidate out there. There are plenty of other qualified candidates out there (if they don't want to wait).[/QUOTE]


Ah...thanks for answering my question SmootSmack!

This is why I'm unsure if Dan, Vinny, and maybe even Gibbs feel that Gregg Williams is the best man for the job. Seems like if the job is Gregg's, they could just go ahead and interview Singletary and be done with the Rooney Rule.

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 03:32 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;406426]Ah...thanks for answering my question SmootSmack!

This is why I'm unsure if Dan, Vinny, and maybe even Gibbs feel that Gregg Williams is the best man for the job. Seems like if the job is Gregg's, they could just go ahead and interview Singletary and be done with the Rooney Rule.[/quote]

Might not be that easy to just interview Singletary (Especially when you know you don't want him)? But I would think it would be very easy to do an in-house interview of a minority.

Of real head coach material like Blache and meet the rule requirements.

WillH 01-12-2008 03:36 PM

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[quote=skinsguy;406424]True.

"On the December 19-20 conference calls, the owners strongly agreed on the principle that any club seeking to hire a head coach will interview one or more minority applicants for the position. The one exception occurs when a club has made a prior contractual commitment to promote a member of its own staff [B]and no additional interviewing takes place[/B] (e.g. Mike Martz and the St. Louis Rams in 2000)."

But I'm wondering exactly how Gregg Williams' contract is worded concerning this. If his contract would say something like, "If the head coach resigns or is fired, you will be promoted as the new Redskins head coach," then all this interviewing is nothing more than a smokescreen to work out details of Williams' head coaching contract. If, on the other hand, it states, "If the head coach resigns or is fired, you will be a candidate to replace the head coach" that might be taken differently. He would be a candidate for the job, but it isn't to say that he would be the next head coach. This would mean to me that the Rooney Rule would apply in this situation.

Speaking of Williams' contract, does he or does he not have a clause in his contract that states he receives a million dollars if he is not selected as the Redskins next head coach? I have heard he does and I have heard he doesn't.[/quote]

Other interviews have taken place, requiring the Rooney Rule regardless of the wording of GW's contract, but I guess the fact that there have been other interviews suggests the second scenario you put forth, if there is anything in his contract about it at all.

skinsguy 01-12-2008 03:37 PM

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Here is Jason La Canfora's latest blog concerning Gregg Williams, Russ Grimm, Greg Blache, and a possiblity of hiring a GM.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Greg Blache is not interested in the head coaching position nor is he interested in interviewing for it.

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 03:38 PM

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[QUOTE=WillH;406425]This all seems so hokey. I understand the need for the rule. In fact I'm a strong supporter of equal opportunity and all that, but this seems to have become very artificial if you ask me. Well, I guess it is working to some degree, Tomlin got his job because of it. It is frustrating as a Skins fan right now, but its worth it for the sake of overall equality.

I guess my point is, Id rather see the redskins take a serious look at the guy from the Colts if they think that is the best minority coach option then dick around with someone they have no intention of really even considering.

Not that that is what you were saying just ranting...[/QUOTE]

Personally I think it's a bit unfair to say Tomlin got the job because of the Rooney Rule. He may have gotten the interview, but he earned the job through his previous work, and his interview. IMO.

Redskins_P 01-12-2008 03:42 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;406431]Here is Jason La Canfora's latest blog concerning Gregg Williams, Russ Grimm, Greg Blache, and a possiblity of hiring a GM.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Greg Blache is not interested in the head coaching position nor is he interested in interviewing for it.[/QUOTE]

Hiring a GM? Man, this place would go crazy if that happened.

skinsguy 01-12-2008 03:45 PM

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;406433]Hiring a GM? Man, this place would go crazy if that happened.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, I reread that part, and I think it's a typo. Looks like Jason meant to say, "There would be [B]no[/B] GM hired."

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 03:48 PM

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[QUOTE=skinsguy;406431]Here is Jason La Canfora's latest blog concerning Gregg Williams, Russ Grimm, Greg Blache, and a possiblity of hiring a GM.

[url=http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/]Redskins Insider[/url]

Greg Blache is not interested in the head coaching position nor is he interested in interviewing for it.[/QUOTE]

Good stuff. I imagine he meant "no GM hired" not "on GM hired"

Changes made to the offensive side of the ball I imagine means to the coaching staff (guys like Burns, Breaux)

I keep hearing so many different things about Grimm that I'm not sure what's true anymore. I've heard they interviewed, they spoke but it wasn't an interview, they have gotten permission yet to interview, Grimm declined any interview request. So who knows.

Seems like Greg Blache is almost done with coaching altogether

WillH 01-12-2008 03:48 PM

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I almost feel like Danny should just take the fine rather then do some B.S. interview. It may not be PC, but IMO it would be worse to have a fake interview for the sake of complying to the Rooney Rule. I wonder if the rest of the league would understand that, or if it would be considered a slap in the face of minorities in the league. I kind of feel like it is more degrading to string a man along if you have no intentions on hiring him.

Well, anyways, maybe that secret interview in Az (that apparently wasn't Russ Grimm now?) was with some minority coach, and this will all be squared away by the end of the weekend, if not by this evening.

WillH 01-12-2008 03:51 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;406432]Personally I think it's a bit unfair to say Tomlin got the job because of the Rooney Rule. He may have gotten the interview, but he earned the job through his previous work, and his interview. IMO.[/quote]

Oh no doubt, I did not mean to imply he only got the job because he is a minority, only that he was given the opportunity. Apparently Russ Grimm was the heir apparent in that situation, but the Rooney Rule gave Tomlin the opportunity to present his case, and he obviously was the best candidate.

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 03:54 PM

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It might have been Maurice Carthon

Slightly OT, last night I dreamt John Clayton said the Redskins were in Arizona interviewing Art Monk for the HC job. Crazy!

lespaul 01-12-2008 04:03 PM

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/SPORTS01/467994636/1005/SPORTS]Worth another shot? - - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/url]

Absolutely worth another shot.

skinsguy 01-12-2008 04:04 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;406435]Good stuff. I imagine he meant "no GM hired" not "on GM hired"

Changes made to the offensive side of the ball I imagine means to the coaching staff (guys like Burns, Breaux)

I keep hearing so many different things about Grimm that I'm not sure what's true anymore. I've heard they interviewed, they spoke but it wasn't an interview, they have gotten permission yet to interview, Grimm declined any interview request. So who knows.

Seems like Greg Blache is almost done with coaching altogether[/QUOTE]

I'm thinking Burns, Breaux, and maybe even Bugel could be gone. Maybe Dan is trying to lure Grimm to Washington if Bugel leaves? Who knows.

If Greg Blache is done, I guess that means Gregg Williams (assuming he gets the job) would also keep duties as a defensive coordinator?

WillH 01-12-2008 04:11 PM

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"The source said Schwartz was led to believe the process would be short, there would be on GM hired, though there could be changes made on the offensive side of the ball regardless of the coach." -JLC

So does that suggest that Saunders may be on the chop block? I hope not.

If he were to leave though (and while we're on the subject of Tomlin) it would be nice to see the new HC include Jason Campbell when rewriting the playbook . . . ala Tomlin and Rothlisburger. . .and in that case the other Offensive playmakers like CP, Cooley, and Moss. It seems we have had a difficult time getting maximum production out of these guys considering their potential, and I like the idea of giving them input into what works best.

Edit: Just saw SS's post regarding this earlier, thanks SS

WillH 01-12-2008 04:24 PM

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[quote=lespaul;406440][URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080111/SPORTS01/467994636/1005/SPORTS"]Worth another shot? - - The Washington Times, America's Newspaper[/URL]

Absolutely worth another shot.[/quote]

I Agree . . . but I hope he doesn't try that airhorn tactic again . . . ha ha.

That article made it sound like he had no idea what he was doing the first time around. But our players seem to love him, and I am sure that Gibb's style has rubbed off on him a bit. Also, the supporting coaching staff seems pretty legit this time. Im excited to see what happens if he gets the chance, and quite honestly terrified to see what happens if he is not.

I LOVE THE REDSKINS 01-12-2008 05:05 PM

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in greg we trust

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 05:22 PM

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PFT.com: (Leslie Frazier to keep us compliant with Rooney rule?)

POSTED 4:07 p.m. EST, January 12, 2008

WILLIAMS INTERVIEWING FOR 'SKINS JOB

ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams will interview on Saturday for the vacant head-coaching job in D.C.

Mort says that Williams is regarded as the front-runner for the job, and we think it makes sense. This is a veteran team, so continuity is important.

Mort also points out that the Redskins have yet to comply with the Rooney Rule by interviewing a minority candidate. But with Vikings defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier willing to become the Rooney Rule's new Art Shell, the 'Skins likely will be able to comply.

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 05:38 PM

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Jay Glazer said on Fox Sports today that the Cardinals didn't give the Redskins permission to interview Grimm. That's three different places I've heard that now so I guess that's what happened.

But that just strikes me as really odd. Did Grimm not want the interview? Did the Redskins never really ask? Strange

Glazer also did say they will probably interview Frazier. I wonder if they'll wait to see what happens in the Colts game tomorrow. Colts lose, interview Caldwell or Meeks. Colts win, interview Frazier.

SmootSmack 01-12-2008 06:01 PM

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I'm thinking more and more they went to speak to Jim Fassel in Arizona. I really hope he's not the choice. I think he's a good head coach, but not the right move for us.

skinsfan_nn 01-12-2008 07:40 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;406463]I'm thinking more and more they went to speak to Jim Fassel in Arizona. I really hope he's not the choice. I think he's a good head coach, but not the right move for us.[/quote]

Jim got run out of Baltimore, I highly doubt hes even on our radar. It would kinda be nice to know who was in Arizona of interest...IF ANYONE..?


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