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MTK 01-13-2008 08:38 PM

Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
0-2 in the playoffs, a 13-3 team gets bounced from the divisional round, what do you think?

Does Romo = choker?

12thMan 01-13-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
He's damn close, that's for sure. I'm hestitant to call him an outright choker just yet, but damn he's right there in my opinion.

Hell, maybe someone in this thread can convince me.

SFREDSKIN 01-13-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
Romo=Chokenheimer

MTK 01-13-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
He just didn't impress me at all on the field, and at the end of the game he clearly had lost his cool and was getting visibly frustrated. Not the way you want your leader to be acting when the heat is dialed up that's for sure.

Redskins_P 01-13-2008 08:41 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;407081]He's damn close, that's for sure. I'm hestitant to call him an outright choker just yet, but damn he's right there in my opinion.

Hell, maybe someone in this thread can convince me.[/QUOTE]

How about if you lose to Eli Manning in the playoffs, you automatically become labeled a choke artist? Is that enough to convince you?

MTK 01-13-2008 08:42 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=Redskins_P;407086]How about if you lose to Eli Manning in the playoffs, you automatically become labeled a choke artist? Is that enough to convince you?[/quote]

Case closed.

Redskins_P 01-13-2008 08:42 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;407083]Romo=Chokenheimer[/QUOTE]

We get it man...you don't like Schottenheimer.

SFREDSKIN 01-13-2008 08:43 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
T.O.=Tammy Faye Baker

DynamiteRave 01-13-2008 08:43 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
Yes. Because all I know is, I'll never forget.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkiNdUHij5g&feature=related]YouTube - TONY OH SNAP_MO[/url]

12thMan 01-13-2008 08:43 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=Redskins_P;407086]How about if you lose to Eli Manning in the playoffs, you automatically become labeled a choke artist? Is that enough to convince you?[/quote]


You win. Romo is such a choker!!

mheisig 01-13-2008 08:45 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I think he's too caught up in his own celebrity status and dating whatever washed-up, worn out piece of Hollywood tail he can find to ever spend any real time like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and perfect his skill.

Skinny Tee 01-13-2008 08:47 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
Romo's last two playoff games ended with his error and had them lose the game.

skinsfan_nn 01-13-2008 08:51 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
They NEVER recovered from the ASS wippen they got at FedEx week 17! You now Joes last game as our head coach at our place! I'm SO GLAD I WAS THERE! I really wish we would have had this opportunity to finish them off.

#1 seed gets there ass spanked from a #5 seed at home, gotta love it,COUGH....

Next week the g-girls get there ass spanked at Lambeau!

12thMan 01-13-2008 08:51 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=mheisig;407100]I think he's too caught up in his own celebrity status and dating whatever washed-up, worn out piece of Hollywood tail he can find to ever spend any real time like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning and perfect his skill.[/quote]

I think you're right. He's a good quarterback, but he's enjoying the spotlight a little too much right now.

GMScud 01-13-2008 08:52 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I think it's about time QB Romeo stops with the little shit-eating grin he's always sporting and gets serious. He had an awful second half.

I don't know if we can call him a choke artist. I mean, the botched FG hold last year was awful, but hats off to Giants DC Spagnolo for his halftime adjustments. The Cowpukes could only muster 3 second half points, and the Giants got tons of pressure of QB Romeo after he went untouched in the 1st half.

GTripp0012 01-13-2008 08:53 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;407072]0-2 in the playoffs, a 13-3 team gets bounced from the divisional round, what do you think?

Does Romo = choker?[/quote]No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...

DynamiteRave 01-13-2008 08:57 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;407124]No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...[/quote]

What if Giants + Dallas fans agree? And I think there's a GB poster trolling around here..

12thMan 01-13-2008 08:57 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;407124]No, because this is a football fourm for knowledgeable posters, and there's no way you can have knowledgeable discussion about "choking". The only thing you can get in a thread like this is emotional outbursts from Skins fans who really think that Romo is the antichrist.

In the words of Schneed, this thread is...[/quote]

Well, in all seriousness let's put some context to this because it really is a legitimate discussion.

Here's a guy that put up great, great numbers during the regular season, and you can see how the Cowboys started to fold down the stretch and it spilled over into the playoffs. To me, a great quarterback can out play his stats. If that makes sense. Like today, for instance, Eli didn't light it up but he didn't lose the game either. Romo showed an incredible lack of poise today and down the stretch this year. And yes, even dating back to the Seattle game last year too.

If we can't label him a bona-fide choker, then he's certainly establishing a trend that's for sure.

GTripp0012 01-13-2008 08:59 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=DynamiteRave;407129]What if Giants + Dallas fans agree? And I think there's a GB poster trolling around here..[/quote]Well, then the thread is still retarded, but I for one, would at least be entertained.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 01-13-2008 09:00 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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12thMan 01-13-2008 09:01 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=Gibbsmeatitle#1;407135]Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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Bye Bye Boys. Please do let the door hit you repeatedly on the buttocks.[/quote]


I definitely think they got distracted with the media down the stretch.

Campbell17 01-13-2008 09:04 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
i saw this coming, he is a choke artist. Was jessica simpson there

SmootSmack 01-13-2008 09:06 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I'll bet he's hoping Jessica is a choke artist tonight, if you know what I mean...zing!

(too far?)

12thMan 01-13-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;407142]I'll bet he's hoping Jessica is a choke artist tonight, if you know what I mean...zing!

(too far?)[/quote]

hahahaha

GTripp0012 01-13-2008 09:10 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=12thMan;407131]Well, in all seriousness let's put some context to this because it really is a legitimate discussion.

Here's a guy that put up great, great numbers during the regular season, and you can see how the Cowboys started to fold down the stretch and it spilled over into the playoffs. To me, a great quarterback can out play his stats. If that makes sense. Like today, for instance, Eli didn't light it up, but he didn't lose the game either. Romo showed an incredible lack of poise down the stretch this year. And yes, dating back to the Seattle game last year too.

If we can't label him a bona-fide choker, then he's certainly establishing a trend that's for sure.[/quote]You can label him whatever you feel, but it doesn't mean anything more than the fact that you (and pretty much everyone else here, myself included) just don't like the guy very much.

Secondly, the whole notion of outplaying ones stats is a logical fallacy. If it's done, then there are (gasp!) stats to show the improvement.

Eli didn't pass a whole lot, but I thought he pretty much did light it up. He outplayed Romo, this once, and his team deserved to win.

The whole point is, this is just one game, and you can't establish a trend in one, or two, or three games. Heck, some guys have down SEASONS, so it's impossible to prove a guy is less adept at playing in the playoffs, and relatively stupid to call two games any sort of evidence whatsoever.

I think the whole choker argument is ridiculous. We don't need petty labels to enjoy the Cowboys losing another playoff game. All I need is the smile currently on my face.

Gibbsmeatitle#1 01-13-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;407137]I definitely think they got distracted with the media down the stretch.[/QUOTE]

Makes me appreciate more what the Pats have done this year. No team has received as much press (good or bad) as them. Shows character and maturity counts. That's why I'm banking that we'll be in the thick of things for years to come regardless of whatever anyone else does in the division.

GMAT

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RFKRat 01-13-2008 09:15 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I think at some level, he's a choker. Clearly he's one of those sports figures that loves celebrity status, commericals, the media, etc but hasn't really done a thing to earn any of those accolades yet. Except fail miserably in the postseason twice now.

He was clearly losing it down the stretch there. Making boneheaded decisions. (the sack, throwing it away for the penalty, and the INT into multiple coverage) Getting visibly frustrated with getting hit (as if he thinks football is all just magazine cover shots, etc)....and frustrated with the officials.

Clearly, it wasn't his worst game ever, but he blew up again when the pressure cooker got hot. Was his head in the game? Who knows...but the media will have fun roasting him this week. Especially when this was the first #1 seed to lose this round.

BaltimoreSkins 01-13-2008 09:16 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=Gibbsmeatitle#1;407135]Have to somewhat disagree with the assessment as he has not achieved "Danny White" status yet. Tantrum O and his three female friend receivers: Teresa, Samantha and Patricia, as well as their offensive line (literally especially in the second-half) cooked their goose. That being said, Romo's performance dropped off toward the end of the year. Was it the media attention? Probably that played a role. But it also affected the whole team, including the coach.

GMAT

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Bye Bye Boys. Please do let the door hit you repeatedly on the buttocks.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget that Romo showed the same drop off the 06 season, at the same point in the regular season, as he did this year.

Redskin Warrior 01-13-2008 09:35 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;407118]I think it's about time QB Romeo stops with the little shit-eating grin he's always sporting and gets serious. He had an awful second half.

I don't know if we can call him a choke artist. I mean, the botched FG hold last year was awful, but hats off to Giants DC Spagnolo for his halftime adjustments. The Cowpukes could only muster 3 second half points, and the Giants got tons of pressure of QB Romeo after he went untouched in the 1st half.[/QUOTE]

I hate Dallas but honestly for some odd reason I like Romo something about him. Romo is star but not a winner it's a big difference example Randall Cummingham was a star not a winner so was Vick. He might not ever be a winner just like those guys.

memphisskin 01-13-2008 09:36 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
Hell yeah he's a choke artist.

According to Webster's Dictionary, choke artist (n) - a player who is unable to rise to the occasion. 2) a player who performs well in the big moments and suddenly shrinks when it really counts, examples include, The Buffalo Bills of the '90s, Marty Schottenheimer, the Cleveland Cavs of the late '80s, Fran Tarkenton, and Tony Romo.

I don't think the vacation had anything to do with it. Rather, it was his inability to rise to the moment. No pass for any Cowturds.

ncskinsfanec 01-13-2008 09:49 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I enjoyed watching Romo and the Cowgirls lose today for the team's sixth consecutive loss in the playoffs. They haven't won a playoff game since the mid-nineties, which is just absolutely pathetic. I really loved that look on Jerry Jones cosmetically enhanced face at the end, just classic!!

As for Romo he continues to prove what a pretender he is! No question that he is a choke artist, and I hope he enjoys his flash in the pan relationship with Ms. Simpson, that's all he's got to hold onto right now.

Redskins247 01-13-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;407160]Don't forget that Romo showed the same drop off the 06 season, at the same point in the regular season, as he did this year.[/QUOTE]

Exactly right...he came in red hot off the bench last year and lit it up....then stalled out late in the season, and lost the playoff game.....and the exact same thing happened this year!

Not taking anything away from them, they have a good team and had a great season.....but they got lucky in a lot of games this year I thought...and they didn't have that luck today.

724Skinsfan 01-13-2008 10:02 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;407072]0-2 in the playoffs, a 13-3 team gets bounced from the divisional round, what do you think?

Does Romo = choker?[/quote]

Maybe now he'll start spitting instead of swallowing. What I mean to say is, yeah, he's a choke artist.

WillH 01-13-2008 10:02 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I have to agree with GTripp that this is silly, that this topic will provide little in the way of intelligent debate, and that most of what you will get here is Redskins spewing their hate for Romo and the Cowboys. Calling someone a choker is just an easy way to stick it to the QB of your hated rival. There is very little substance to the claim at all. For example, how ofter was Peyton Manning called a choker before he finally won a superbowl last season? And now that he lost in the playoffs again yesterday is he a choker again?

I have to agree, however, with those who have said that he seems to lack the passion to become the same caliber of QB as Manning or Brady. I wouldn't be surprised if this trend continues, and eventually he is remembered as a vain POS that cared more about what he could gain from football then what he could bring to it. That is what seems to be important about this to me, because McNabb, for example, never got his SuperBowl win (yet, I suppose), and some might call him a choker, but at least the man seems to legitimately care about the game, and what he can give back. So you can call Romo a choker, but I'd rather focus my hate in a more constructive (or destructive I suppose) manner (as many of you have) and criticize him for his worse qualities.

That said . . . ha ha Romo sucks!! Way to blow it again LOSER!!

Gibbsmeatitle#1 01-13-2008 10:04 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;407160]Don't forget that Romo showed the same drop off the 06 season, at the same point in the regular season, as he did this year.[/QUOTE]

Thought it was his final five or six games last season. Thought this tail off was nearer the end around the Eagle game. Guess it doesn't really matter. Hope it's a continuing trend.

BR,

GMAT

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cwboyh8ter 01-13-2008 10:09 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
romo didn't drop all the pass that #84 crayton did, but we can call the whole team choke artist!! fine with me..

FRPLG 01-13-2008 10:40 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[QUOTE=Redskins_P;407086]How about if you lose to Eli Manning in the playoffs, you automatically become labeled a choke artist? Is that enough to convince you?[/QUOTE]

That's about as concrete an argument as can be made.

skinsguy 01-13-2008 10:42 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I vote for choke artist, and SmootSmack, that was hilarious!

onlydarksets 01-13-2008 10:42 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
I'd call him Mr. November, if anything. His averages in December and later pretty much blow.

onlydarksets 01-13-2008 10:43 PM

Re: Can we now officially call Romo a choke artist?
 
[quote=cwboyh8ter;407202]romo didn't drop all the pass that #84 crayton did, but we can call the whole team choke artist!! fine with me..[/quote]
He definitely had help, but he makes some really bad decisions at times. He's kind of a gunslinger like Favre was in the 90s, but without as good of a supporting cast to make up for his bad choices.


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