Did The Cowboys Have A Better Season Than The Redskins?
 

Legitimate question, I think. Sure the Cowboys had a better record, but did they have a better season. Or are they one in the same.

If I were standing by being objective and a fan of either team, I would be more encouraged by the way the Washington Redskins finished, the overall sense of cohesion of the team than the Dallas Cowboys and how their playoff run ended.

I guess the real question is, if each team is one and done in the playoffs, who had the better season?

You guys care to weigh in?

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[QUOTE=12thMan;407698]Legitimate question, I think. Sure the Cowboys had a better record, but did they have a better season. Or are they one in the same.

If I were standing by being objective and a fan of either team, I would be more encouraged by the way the Washington Redskins finished, the overall sense of cohesion of the team than the Dallas Cowboys and how their playoff run ended.

You guys care to weigh in?[/QUOTE]

We both played one game and we were out they just had a bye week. But I agree, if having to look at both team just off the pure emotional rollercoaster the skins had this year you wouldn't think we would make the playoffs. Plus we went out on a win streak coming into the playoffs unlike Dallas.

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yea i think we finished the year better, but depending on who becomes our coach, they might finish the season better as in having an attact team with a full coaching staff

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Well the end result was the same for both teams. Dallas played better football throughout the year and the skins ended on a stronger run. Dallas won the games that we lost so I'll have to give them the edge.

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Ok there are two things to look at here: Performance during the regular season and performance in the post-season.

The Cowboys went 13-3 yes but they played down to the competition in almost every game they should have won handily. They were whipped up and down the field against the Bills on Monday Night and won on a series of events that realistically has probably a 5% chance of happening. Also, if you noticed once Tony Romo signed his new contract his play seemed to decrease dramatically as well, compiled on the fact that they are the first NFC number 1 seed to get bounced in the divisional round of the playoffs since the NFL went to a 12 team playoff in 1990 and seeing what the Skins accomplished this season after all the injuries, the death of Sean Taylor, and what they were expected to do I would hjave to say that the Redskins had the better season.

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the skins had the the better season inspite of their record..
better stretch run too.

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Our season was better because we rose from the ashes. They crashed and burned.

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Season: Cowboys
Finish: Skins (we beat em)
If the rationale is any team who doesn't win it all is tied for second and we have a better draft pick (though the boys have the Browns #1 which is higher than our 21) than yes our year is slightly better. Otherwise you have two playoff losers. No better or worse than Bucs or Colts in my opinion.

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Dallas pretty much has every advantage in the comparision EXCEPT how they stack up for the future. They had the better 07, but things are looking good for us in 08 and 09.

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[quote=GTripp0012;407727]Dallas pretty much has every advantage in the comparision EXCEPT how they stack up for the future. They had the better 07, but things are looking good for us in 08 and 09.[/quote]

So you're saying (and I'm just asking for clarity) that because of how we finished we '07, we have more to be encouraged about in '08/09?

But from top to bottom, the Cowboys had a better 2007 season?

Is this a silly argument?

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We both lost, but they were the number one seed. Sure there was more excitement lets say in our season never knowing and fighting to get into the playoffs and probably more satisfaction knowing we got there with all that happened. That being said the Cowboys were the number one seed no matter how they won there games. But they are two different seasons and so close to one another the way they ended that I dont think you could say that one is better then the other

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[quote=12thMan;407729]So you're saying (and I'm just asking for clarity) that because of how we finished we '07, we have more to be encouraged about in '08/09?

But from top to bottom, the Cowboys had a better 2007 season?

Is this a silly argument?[/quote]Not necessarily because of how we finished, but how our depth proved to be quality in the face of insurmountable injury.

Next year we get those injured players back, and have every right to think we will be a better team.

The Cowboys had a very lucky year, but didn't get it done. Next year they will have a lot more adversity to contend with than they did last year.

So if we proved anything this year, it's that we could roll with the Cowboys in the future, it's just that circumstance prevented us from doing so this year.

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It was about the same in my opinion but no one can call us chokers. Dallas had dreams of the Super Bowl and disappointed down the stretch. The Redskins season was full of ups and downs.

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Cowboys all the way.

They played great most of the year.
Most of their players has career years.
They gave their fans alot to cheer for.

I'm proud of this years team but they did underachieve the first half of the year.
They blew too many games in the fourth quarter.
Injuries, Injuries and More Injuries....
Most importantly, A wonderful young man lost his life this year. Btw, He was a pretty good football player too.

The Redskins finished strong and I am proud of them, but 2007 was not a good year to be a redskins fan or player.

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I would have to say the Cowboys for the most part. They finished with the franchise best record and they didn't loose a great teamante and coach. I do feel that the way the redskins handled it and came out playing for Taylor was AMAZING and I thought that at the end of the season the Redskins had a better chance of getting farther into the playoffs then the Cowboys. So it's kind of hard because like i said what the Skins did was amazing but i'd have to give it to the Cowboys because they did have a lot of accomplishments (records) and they had a bye week. The biggest reason I would think they had a better season was because they didn't loose anybody special and I think it would be hard to say the Skins had a better season when they lost a great player and a HOF coach....

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I have a hard time thinking we could have lost Sean Taylor to a senseless murder and claim to have a better season than the Cowboys.

Just looking at the 2007 season they had the better season

But big picture, so much depends on what happens moving forward. Will we carry our run (sans Seahawks) into next year? Will Campbell emerge as a Pro Bowl caliber QB? Will Glenn and Owens return to the Cowboys? What about their coaching staff? How will Romo respond to two consecutive grueling losses in the playoffs?

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You can look at it from two ways. First, d***as had a better record, won the division, and was the top seed. So, in that regard, yes. If you view at from expectations, than no. Outside of this site, noone expected the skins to be a factor, but many had d***as going to the super bowl from day 1. Throw in the fact that they rallied to make the play-offs, the sean taylor tragedy, and you have to say absolutely not.

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Id have to say the arguments for the cowboys having the better season are more convincing, but that obviously we finished stronger. What is encouraging going forward is that we nearly beat them twice this year despite the woes the skins went through; and the first game when we lost they were at the top of their game while we were hobbling through the middle of an injury plagued season. This definitely suggests that we can play with these guys. Not only that, but we can play with the Giants as well. It will be interesting to see how these three teams progress in the next few years. As SmootSmack alluded to there are alot of questions going forward, so it is hard to tell who will be the best in the NFC East next year. Hell, you can't count out the Eagles either; who knows, they may just bounce back. But at this juncture, I like our chances, lets just hope we're healthy next year, and can pickup where we left off against Dallas.

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Dallas had 13 wins, that's a very good regular season. However, they certainly did not live up to the playoff expectations that come with a 13 win season. Anytime you lock up the #1 seed anything less than the Super Bowl is a disappointment.

The Skins making the playoffs was a bit of a surprise. Not many were picking them to do much this year back in August.

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No way ...07 was a great season for the Skins...They let a few slip away,but in the end was in the hunt. Dallas believed their own hipe...."Best next the Pats."..lol they were not even near that good.

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You know I think most redskins fans may be a little disapointed how the season ended but proud that we made it to the playoffs and are relatively happy right now....not trying to terrorize jessica simpson away. So inspit eof the horrors of this season, it brought us all closer together, the fans and the team. I would have to say we had a better season. I am damn proud to be a redskins fan this week and that is more then I can say for most Cowboy fans.

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The Cowboys were more consistant. The Skins (under their new coach, whomever that will be) need to find away to win during the middle of the season and not wait until every game is a must win at the end.

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The Boys won the division and got a 1st round bye. There is no doubt they had a better season than the Skins.

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I honestly cant see this even up for debate. the cowboys finished 13-3, skins 9-7. The cowboys won the games they were suppose to, the offense finished in the top 5, defense not really sure where they finished, but had to be top 10. Romo, TO, Witten, Barber all had good if not great years. Most importantly, the 1st goal of every team is to win their division, which they did impressively. they were the #1 seed in the playoffs for the NFC. we were #6, and had to fight our way in winning the last 4 games. Comparison to how they did in the playoffs is moot. Are you going to say the same thing about the colts? I hate to say it, but the Cowboys had a much better season than we did. We lost games we could have won. we blew how many games in 4th quarter 6-7?? They made plays to win games, we didn't make them.

This is just a ridiculous thread. I am a very big cowboy hater, but realistically our season was not even close to theirs.

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The Redskins had one of the worst seasons possible. I really wouldn't wish this season on any other team, even Dallas. I think we can draw hope from our team unity at the end and carry it forward but this season itself was one of the darkest ones ever in my memory (early 80's). We had a great team going into the season and every factor that could affect us negatively happened. Injuries to key players, late game turnover's, Sean Taylor's death, etc.

Dallas had everything going right for them the entire season but couldn't finish it off.

To finish, I think both teams sort of leveled out at the end. We were playing low but rose up. Dallas played high and sunk down. Fans of both teams should be encouraged for next sesason.

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Well it really depends how you look at it....they played better football throughout, no questions asked. They were a better football team, no questions asked. Did they have a better season, overally, yes. However (and cowboy fans are more than welcome to weigh in on it), I think they're going to be much more dissapointed and look at this end result much more than we are. Meaning, I think Skins fans as a whole can look at 07 and be happy with how everything happened and we made the playoffs given the scenerios that happened during the year. Really tough to say, Dallas was better than we were, but depending how you look at it,our end result might be better.

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Dallas had the better year, though their's ended on a more sour note. My wife is a cowpokes fan & she laid around moping all day yesterday. We didn't speak after the game cause I said TO would start running his mouth & blaming somebody. Turns out, he did just the opposite. Crazy year.

Looking forward I think both teams have a lot going for them, but based on personel you would have to say that dallas is the preseason nfc east favorite again. It will be a crazy division. The pokes have 2 #1 picks + all their others & they already are a young team on D. They just need to re-up w/the o line & recievers. TO has at least 1 more good year (though I won't be surprised to see some drop off) & Glenn might contribute.

If Phillips & Jones are worth their salt, they'll get the players to believe that this season was part of the learning curve & that they should regroup to be better. Happens to a lot of teams, e.g. the Colts this decade.

We have a lot more holes to fill IMO, but this year showed that we've begun to establish some youth & depth. It really hurts to end the season missing your top 3 picks from 04-06 and that will also take a toll on our decisions this year.

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They won more games but when the games mattered the most they were one-and-done just like us. Plus they probably have the inside track on the "Most Disappointing Team Ever" crown. When you're 13-3 and then lay an egg in the first game you've got a lot of explaining to do.

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Dallas by far had the better season. They posted more wins than the Redskins and were the favorites to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Now, their finish was very disappointing. They finished the regular season with three piss poor performances and failed to win their first playoff game. Dallas fans should be ashamed and look for a scapegoat.

On the hand, the Redskin season was up and down like the stock market. Injuries to key players, the death of Sean Taylor, surrendering the lead in the second half of games and losing a Hall of Fame coach. These events do not make a good season. The team showed a lot of heart, determination and resiliency but it was very stressful for the fans and because of Sean Taylor's death, a season most fans will never forget. I love the Skins to death, but this season was rough. God blessed Joe Gibbs with a great finish in the regular season but in the end, the career backups couldn't pull off the Cinderella story.

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So it seems by the responses that total wins is synonymous with having a better season. I guess I can buy that.

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Maybe we should ask who had the more disappointing season?

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The Cowboys certainly had a better regular season. However, when you factor in the post-season, their disappointment has to be far more bitter than the Skins. It has been 20 years since a #1 seed in the NFC lost in their first round. A better way of saying that is the #1 seed has reached the NFC Championship game every year since 1987. The Cowboys pissed away a golden opportunity, and they will have to live with that for a long offseason.

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Having the #1 seed in the conference and losing in the first round is as dissapointing as going 3-13. We had a better season. Regardless of what happens to the Giants though, they had the best season of any NFC East team.

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our only solace is that we'll have better picks in the draft.

say what you want, they were 13-3 with a first round bye, we barely squeaked in an lost in the wild card. I don't understand how this is up for debate. I hate the 'boys as much as the next, but how is this a serious question? I'm not taking anything away from what the skins did post the taylor tragedy, however, we should have never been in such a big hole to begin with...we did that by losing close games with poor play and/or untimely turnovers. The season for both of us was 17 games long (though they "lasted longer" due to the bye), they played "well" for whole season, not just the last four games.

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Except the Cowboys get two picks in the first round.

The irony is, even with Gibbs leaving, we will probably have more stability moving into 2008 than they will; assuming Williams stays.

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Being highly biased, I would say that we did. When you are a number one seed in the playoffs and get a bye week, you are supposed to at least make it to the NFC championship game. They clearly had not been playing good football the last month of the season, whereas the Redskins had been playing their best ball of the year in December. The real tragedy for us is that we weren't able to capitalize on the momentum in the Seattle game. Dallas made stupid undisciplined mistakes at home. There is no reason to get a false start at home ever. It's one thing for your offensive line to get one on the road, but at home? Come on. Also there were several drops by the wideouts that led to the offense's inefficency to keep drives going. As bad as the score was in the seattle game, we should have won. As close as the cowboys game was they definitely should have lost anyway. They had been lucky in a couple of close games which they squeaked out victories. Their 13-3 was highly inflated, if you ask me.

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Its an interesting question...The way i look at it is at the beginning of the season, teams have checklists of what they want to achieve (tangible and intangible). If i were on an NFL team my checklist would look like this:

Tangible
1) Qualify for the postseason
2) Win The Division
3) Win a Playoff game
4) Win The Conference
5) Win The Superbowl

Intangible
1) Play as a team, preserve chemistry
2) Better the understanding of the younger players, develop the talent and depth
3) Secure the Veterans for the offseason
4) Retain as much of the coaching staff as possible/maintain continuity
5) Position the organization well for the offseason (draft/FA)
6*) Play guts out and leave everything on the field

By these standards, I would say that the cowboys had a better season from a tangible and intangible standpoint as well. They won the division crown and secured the top seed, there is something to be said for the regular season. They did play well as a team even though they lost, and surprisingly TO didn't blame any one for the loss. I think we developed our talent and depth better than they did b/c we were forced to due to injury. On the other hand, they are positioned better for the offseason in terms of the cap and the draft unless something changes drastically. As far as how the veterans and coaching staff moves shake out, that is yet to be determined for both teams. However, we whooped their ass as far at #6 goes, haha.

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I think my gripe with the Cowboys is that it seems like they bought into their own hype. The mark of a well coached team and team with character, for that matter, they know how to focus and block out the clippings. I think to go 13-3 during the regular season and flop in your first round divisional game points to something. Not saying the Giants didn't deserve to win, because they played a helluva game and wanted it. But the Cowboys made mental error after mental error.

Not to jump on the Patriots bandwagon, but those guys are all business leading up to big games.

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[quote=12thMan;408057]...

[B]Not to jump on the Patriots bandwagon, but those guys are all business leading up to big games[/B].[/quote]The Pats are all business against the weaker teams as well. If Gibbs/Saunders had kept the pedal on the metal early in the year when we were ahead of the Giants, the Packers, and others, we might have won a few more games and not had to play in Seattle in the first round. As soon as Collins became the QB, Gibbs/Saunders stopped coaching to win every game by only 3 points. Let's hope that we attack with similar aggression next season.

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I think the Skins win this debate. We finished strong even with all the turmoil endured. If Snyder doesn't blow it,we should have some stability next season.

I know we lost the first playoff game,but it was chalked up as a loss on the field and not connected to off field stuff that makes us a laughing stock. QB in Mexico,hot blond girlfriend,big ass cry baby crap etc...