Complications with Zorn? A delay on Ryan?
 

So much speculation. I know things are at a fever pitch already around here, but it looks like we've got a further delay. Apparently Ryan, still under contract with Balt, will be at the Senior Bowl coaching, and won't be around until the end of the weekend. Plus Balt is very high on keeping Ryan and they'll probably make it very tough to get him. So I guess this has fueled speculation of a possible Jim Schwartz / Gregg Williams swap.

If that isn't enough, apparently Seattle is very intent on keeping Zorn. They may offer him a guaranteed spot as OC when Holmgren steps down after the '08 season. And I guess that could be enough to keep him there.

Arrrrgggghhh. This whole situation is annoying as hell.

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(Mods-If this thread is a strong candidate to merge with "Fassel, Ryan, Zorn, oh my" thread, feel free.)

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I don't get CSN where I am, but someone just told me that they said there was a "0%" chance we'd get Zorn...and that Sellers said that not hiring GW would be a setback? Oh man! This is madness!!

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How come nobody's interviewing Gregg Williams or Al Saunders? I'm sure both of them are top contenders as HC somewhere else. Is it possible for Dan Snyder to prevent them from being interviewed?

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This is getting on my nerves.

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who's zorn?

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[QUOTE=Kevikazi;411820]How come nobody's interviewing Gregg Williams or Al Saunders? I'm sure both of them are top contenders as HC somewhere else. Is it possible for Dan Snyder to prevent them from being interviewed?[/QUOTE]

dude if your own team doesnt show interest for you why would another team?

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[quote=Kevikazi;411820]How come nobody's interviewing Gregg Williams or Al Saunders? I'm sure both of them are top contenders as HC somewhere else. Is it possible for Dan Snyder to prevent them from being interviewed?[/quote]

Because #1 they are both under contract here, and #2 they aren't out of the running for positions here just yet.

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[QUOTE=Kevikazi;411820]How come nobody's interviewing Gregg Williams or Al Saunders? I'm sure both of them are top contenders as HC somewhere else. Is it possible for Dan Snyder to prevent them from being interviewed?[/QUOTE]


They will both definately draw interest from other teams once they complete this mess going on with the Redskins. Plus I think Williams is still under contract.

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I'm officially just backing off my anxiousness about this whole thing. Now the ESPN article Matty just posted is saying we may wait until after the Super Bowl so we can take a crack Spagnuolo. It could be a while folks. Unfasten your seatbelts and feel free to move about the cabin.

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[quote=GMScud;411835]I'm officially just backing off my anxiousness about this whole thing. Now the ESPN article Matty just posted is saying we may wait until after the Super Bowl so we can take a crack Spagnuolo. It could be a while folks. Unfasten your seatbelts and feel free to move about the cabin.[/quote]

Huh??????????????????????????????????????? Are you kidding me!!! So let's see. GW has had a top ten defense 3 out of the last 4 years with average to slightly above average players. The defense is why we made the playoffs 2 out of the last 3 years. If we had any type of offense in 04 we make the playoffs, and Snyder is going to hire a defensive HC?? For what?? This whole thing sucks and I'm pissed. What Gibbs built the last 4 years is all going in the toilet.

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I thought the mention of a Jim Schwartz / Gregg Williams swap was interesting. Same philosophies and schemes. Plus Fisher and GW are best friends. If Tenn would allow the lateral move without compensation, I could see us going that route to avoid what will no doubt be a big price demanded by Balt for Ryan.

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I thought it was interesting that the article said Zorn was well regarded by not just Fassel, but Williams as well.

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[quote=SmootSmack;411862]I thought it was interesting that the article said Zorn was well regarded by not just Fassel, but Williams as well.[/quote]

Good catch.

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all these rumors are driving me crazy. the post is going to report the hiring of Jim Fassel is happening but then a report on sportscenter says not so fast. Heard to say who to believe. I guess we wont know until it happens. To many rumors. I would love for Gregg Williams to stay but that doesnt appear to be likely at this point.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;411876]all these rumors are driving me crazy. the post is going to report the hiring of Jim Fassel is happening but then a report on sportscenter says not so fast. Heard to say who to believe. I guess we wont know until it happens. To many rumors. I would love for Gregg Williams to stay [B]but that doesnt appear to be likely at this point[/B].[/quote]

Tough to tell what exactly is reality at this point.

Truth is nobody seems to know.

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[quote=Mattyk72;411878]Tough to tell what exactly is reality at this point.

Truth is nobody seems to know.[/quote]


The reality is that no decision has been made. You can speculate all you want, but you're just going to drive yourself crazy jumping on every tidbit of information that is posted about the whole process. Personally, I am taking the sit back and let the cards fall where they may approach, and have an opinion then. Like I said before in another thread, I'd rather DS and Company take their time and get it right, than promote someone solely for continuity's sake. Who's to say that Gibbs endorses GW as his successor in the first place. Maybe he IS pushing some of these buttons. I don't think he or Danny boy want his efforts over the last four years to be squandered anymore than us fans do.

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[quote=GMScud;411835]I'm officially just backing off my anxiousness about this whole thing. Now the ESPN article Matty just posted is saying we may wait until after the Super Bowl so we can take a crack Spagnuolo. It could be a while folks. Unfasten your seatbelts and feel free to move about the cabin.[/quote]



Giants don't have to let him go if it's a lateral move.:spank:

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[quote=Giantone;411907]Giants don't have to let him go if it's a lateral move.:spank:[/quote]I believe all it would take is one of those creative titles that the Skins are so famous for. Something like "Associate Head Coach in Charge of the Team Bus Seating Chart".

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If Danny blows the whole thing up AGAIN!!!!, then we're looking at another couple of years of futility....AGAIN!!! I though Danny had learned his lesson!!! This is getting aggravating and I'll be pissed is Fassel is named HC!!!!

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Sign the Petition Thread!!! As of now it's not too late to voice your opinion!!!

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Methinks we need a GM, as Danny and his fluffer Vinny are TOO STUPID TO SURVIVE.

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[quote=Football Man;411911]Methinks we need a GM, as Danny and his fluffer Vinny are TOO STUPID TO SURVIVE.[/quote]
Vinny's new clarified position is basically the same as a GM.

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You know what I would love to see but I doubt it would happen in a million years? Williams as head coach, Spags as d-coordinator just not with that title, and Zorn as o-coordinator.

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[QUOTE=rypper11;411918]Vinny's new clarified position is basically the same as a GM.[/QUOTE]

Let me rephrase: Methinks we need a GM with a triple-digit IQ. Someone who understands how to value talent and manage the salary cap.
A Floyd Reese-Gregg Williams combo would be ideal, especially given that the two men are good friends from their Tennessee days and could work together effectively.

Then again, Reese probably wouldn't provide Danny with sexual favors, so nix that idea!

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[QUOTE=Football Man;411920]Let me rephrase: Methinks we need a GM with a triple-digit IQ. Someone who understands how to value talent and manage the salary cap.
A Floyd Reese-Gregg Williams combo would be ideal, especially given that the two men are good friends from their Tennessee days and could work together effectively.

Then again, Reese probably wouldn't provide Danny with sexual favors, so nix that idea![/QUOTE]

Your recurring joke about Cerrato only having his job because he offers Snyder "favors" is getting pretty tired. It's stupid comments like this that really bring this site down

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Doesn't Rex Ryan run a 3-4 defense? If he came to Washington he'd either have to work with what we got or try to set up a 3-4 defense which I don't think would be effective at all.

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Was anyone excited about the possibility of GW as Head coach 2 weeks ago? Now you sprinkle in a little Mora Jr. and Fassell rumors... the prospect of GW is beginning to look great. I'm hoping that this is all smoke screen to have everyone appreciate Williams when he finally gets the gig.

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;411908]I believe all it would take is one of those creative titles that the Skins are so famous for. Something like "Associate Head Coach in Charge of the Team Bus Seating Chart".[/QUOTE]

It doesn't work that way. The league looks at the subtsance of the job, not the ridiculous title. Just look back when the Tuna was thinking of hiring the GM of the Pats away. As long as the tuna was making more cash, the reality of the situation was that regardless of the title, the guy was going to be the "GM" of the Fish so the Pats would be able to block the move.

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Why is the FO looking at off and D coordinators? Isn't this the resposibility of our new coach? The new coach is going to take the credit and the scrutiny so why can't he choose who he wants on his staff? Now, maybe Fassel said he would want Zorn but Fassel hasn't been hired yet right? If thats the case just make the hire and let him pick his own staff (i hope that doesn't happen).

Our FO needs to step back make the right hire and let our COACH pick his people he wants with him.

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What's the big deal?
GW is an unproven head coach. An oft times Defensive genius.
His last gig in Buffalo was........dismal, or would he not still be doing it?
Relax,.........and see how it rolls out. It appears to me great thought and planning is going into the new look.
Hopefully, it will be worth the wait

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[QUOTE=gibbsisgod;411908]I believe all it would take is one of those creative titles that the Skins are so famous for. Something like "Associate Head Coach in Charge of the Team Bus Seating Chart".[/QUOTE]

Nice.........................that was hilarious! Unfortunately, I heard this morning on CSN that no goofy-Redskins Titles can change the fact that its a lateral move. Good thought though as I was thinking the same thing.

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[QUOTE=GMScud;411835]I'm officially just backing off my anxiousness about this whole thing. Now the ESPN article Matty just posted is saying we may wait until after the Super Bowl so we can take a crack Spagnuolo. It could be a while folks. Unfasten your seatbelts and feel free to move about the cabin.[/QUOTE]


man it,s like flying in a plane with all the turbulence aint it.. the unfasten your seatbelt sign just went off ....deep breath ......ahhh there,:)

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[quote=mooby;411919]You know what I would love to see but I doubt it would happen in a million years? Williams as head coach, Spags as d-coordinator just not with that title, and Zorn as o-coordinator.[/quote]

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner. That would be great. I doubt the Giants would let Spags go to a division rival at the same position without trying to rob us compensation-wise. But man, that would be a sweet set up.