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Maybe all season ticket holders could sign a petition to be presented to Godell that Snyder sell the team. It is an utter embarassment the way this team is run and Snyder is a flat out liar.

There is no continuity even though he talked about it 2 weeks ago in a press conference and I don't believe for a second that G. Williams said anything disparaging about Gibbs. Danny is trying to cover his behind.

We're being run just like the Oakland Raiders and nobody is gonna want this job. Would you with an owner who's word is worthless? At least Al Davis can claim senility.

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Take a deep breath, let things play out, then judge. We may think we know what's going on, but we don't, and any kind of reaction right know is knee jerk at best.

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I dont know about your petition idea but I am starting to think that one would have to be an idiot or desperate to take a coaching job with the Skins.

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Cpayne5,

Coming off a playoff season stability should've been the course of action. I'd love to have seen Saunders offense next year with Gibbs out of the way. I believe even though Saunders handled play calling Gibbs still had a lot of influence. No organization in business or sports is successful with constant turnover.

I'll be real excited watching all the false starts next year when we switch to a west coast offense.

Snyder is a meddling twerp and we'd be better off without him. He has his lap dog Vinny in there as 'God of all football', it's a joke.

From the Washington times yesterday;

Earlier this week, when told of Cerrato's promotion, an NFC executive couldn't stop laughing.

"It gives the rest of us a better shot," he said. "I'm sure the rest of the NFC East is breathing easier."

They are today, too.

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:banghead: :doh: :rolleyes: :Smoker: :sleep:

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Super retarded thread.

For the continuity honks, do you realize that a good majority of the staff is likely to be back?

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I can't for the life of me make any sense out of what Dan Snyder has done with the team over the last couple of weeks. But this thread is really really retarded.

First, these very arguments have been discussed ad nauseum all over the site. Second, it's ridiculous to think you can petition somebody into selling an asset. If you move next door to me and smoke the same crack you're smoking now, I still can't petition you to sell your house. Third, comparing the team to the Raiders is ridiculous, the Raiders are horrible, we just made the playoffs.

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I really was only dreaming with the petition idea not that it would work. I actually am more realistic in a walkout like what was organized last year at the Orioles game.

[QUOTE]Third, comparing the team to the Raiders is ridiculous, the Raiders are horrible, we just made the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

Yes we did make the playoffs but with Gibbs gone we are a joke to the rest of the league with the front office setup that we have. The Raiders organization with an impatient owner much like we have is viewed the same way. Do you see other organizations with bizarre coach comings and goings like the Redskins and the Raiders. Al trying to force his coach to resign after 1 year. Danny firing Marty after one year and then Spurrier resigning over the phone. I know Dallas hired Garret before Phillips last year but the process of hiring and promoting coordinators before a head coachis in place is extremely unusual.

Snyder is the only person in the world who would hire Vinny in this capacity. When he was fired by Schottenheimer he remained unemployed. Cerrato should be flipping burgers at some McDonalds somewhere.

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I was wondering if P.G. County couldn't use the expanded imminent domain powers afforded to local governments by the Supreme Courts "Kelo v. City of New London" decision to transfer ownership of FedEx field to some private 3rd party (say me) and therefore make Snyder's continued ownership of the team unprofitable. Just a thought. There must be some way.

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;414068][B]Take a deep breath, let things play out, then judge.[/B] We may think we know what's going on, but we don't, and any kind of reaction right know is knee jerk at best.[/QUOTE]

I have been patient and letting things 'play out' for 8 years with Snyderatto. You act like this something new and has never happened before. Just when we start making progress with Gibbs, everything gets blown up.
What irks me is the way the old staff was left in the dark. These guys are not some ordinary group. They (GW & Saunders) are some of the most qualified and respected coaches in the league. Why get rid of the them for the sake of change?

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[QUOTE=Defensewins;414133]I have been patient and letting things 'play out' for 8 years with Snyderatto. You act like this something new and has never happened before. Just when we start making progress with Gibbs, everything gets blown up.
What irks me is the way the old staff was left in the dark. These guys are not some ordinary group. They (GW & Saunders) are some of the most qualified and respected coaches in the league. [b]Why get rid of the them for the sake of change?[/b][/QUOTE]
I don't think they were 'released' for the sake of change.. Offensively, Saunders was brought in to take the team to the next level. It didn't happen. We were 15th in offense and 18th in scoring, that's mediocre. Granted, Gibbs handcuffed him and he didn't really 'run the show' but if management wasn't comfortable with how things are going they made that move for the betterment of the team.

As for GW, it's simple. He wasn't going to be the head coach and it'd be an insult, especially to someone with an ego the size of GW, to be subordinate to another head coach.

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[quote=Paintrain;414162]I don't think they were 'released' for the sake of change.. Offensively, Saunders was brought in to take the team to the next level. It didn't happen. We were 15th in offense and 18th in scoring, that's mediocre. Granted, Gibbs handcuffed him and he didn't really 'run the show' but if management wasn't comfortable with how things are going they made that move for the betterment of the team.

As for GW, it's simple. He wasn't going to be the head coach and it'd be an insult, especially to someone with an ego the size of GW, to be subordinate to another head coach.[/quote]Pretty much.

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Why would Snyder can Saunders and GW simply for the sake of change? That really doesn't make much sense. Why not just blow up the whole staff then if he wants change??

There were rumors during the season that Saunders could be on the hotseat... even if Gibbs returned.

Despite what people assumed Williams was never a lock to take over for Gibbs and it was fairly well known that Snyder and Williams weren't exactly the best of buddies.

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Please, sell all your season tickets. Then maybe my name will come up on the list.

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Everyone take a deep breath. One of my fellow Skins fans here in Kentucky, where we watch the Skins everyweek on Sunday ticket, have always talked about the fact that we wish we had a younger coaching staff that you could build a team around for years to come. Gibb's and company are really old by coaching standards and as much as I had hoped G. Williams would be our coach, I want us to go young and exciting not stick with the same old stuff.

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Were we really such a great team under Gibbs 2, GW's, and Snyder. Well it took two winning streaks to get into the playoffs which was nice but it was some hard playing as much as some luck. We have not been very consistent (note needing to win all those games to get into the playoffs) and lost our first game this year and lost our second in 05 after beating a team with only 160? yards on the O. We lost a bunch of games this year in the second half which with better coaching we should have won. I'm not saying that Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders were all that bad but I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out now they are gone. If we went back and look at post over the past year we would find a ton that say get rid of Saunders, Williams, and many had said that Gibbs 2 was not getting it done. The only thing that changed is we lost ST and had a winning streak but before that we had lost 4 straight games. Before this year we had a ton of post about Williams and how he was clashing with players. We heard that Saunders system takes 2 years but who has a syatem that takes so long to learn with the way thing change in the NFL. My view is that I'll sit back and see how these changes take shape on the field before I decide if they are the wrong or right moves.

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Here we go with the luck thing again. :doh:

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[quote=Mattyk72;414249]Here we go with the luck thing again. :doh:[/quote]
I did not say we won because we were luck but if several teams would have won a couple of games we would not have been in the playoffs even with the 4 wins. So, yes we got lucky that other teams lost.

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[quote=firstdown;414264]I did not say we won because we were luck but if several teams would have won a couple of games we would not have been in the playoffs even with the 4 wins. So, yes we got lucky that other teams lost.[/quote]But we were better than them. Yes, we had no control over how many games they would lose, but teams are going to win and lose games that reflect somewhat their talent level.

We were a better team that the Saints, and a better team than the Vikings. We can't control how many games they win over the course of the season, but we can control the fact that we have a better roster than them, so more times than not, we were going to win more games.

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[quote=firstdown;414245]Were we really such a great team under Gibbs 2, GW's, and Snyder. Well it took two winning streaks to get into the playoffs which was nice but it was some hard playing as much as some luck. We have not been very consistent (note needing to win all those games to get into the playoffs) and lost our first game this year and lost our second in 05 after beating a team with only 160? yards on the O. We lost a bunch of games this year in the second half which with better coaching we should have won. I'm not saying that Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders were all that bad but I'm not sure why everyone is freaking out now they are gone. If we went back and look at post over the past year we would find a ton that say get rid of Saunders, Williams, and many had said that Gibbs 2 was not getting it done. The only thing that changed is we lost ST and had a winning streak but before that we had lost 4 straight games. Before this year we had a ton of post about Williams and how he was clashing with players. We heard that Saunders system takes 2 years but who has a syatem that takes so long to learn with the way thing change in the NFL. My view is that I'll sit back and see how these changes take shape on the field before I decide if they are the wrong or right moves.[/quote]Consistency is in the eye of the beholder. We played at a somewhat consistent level all season, and ended up with a record that justified our play.

The means to the end were at times downright wacky, but it all balanced out in the end. That is to say that, overall, we neither got totally boned, nor particularly lucky.

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[quote=GTripp0012;414268]But we were better than them. Yes, we had no control over how many games they would lose, but teams are going to win and lose games that reflect somewhat their talent level.

We were a better team that the Saints, and a better team than the Vikings. We can't control how many games they win over the course of the season, but we can control the fact that we have a better roster than them, so more times than not, we were going to win more games.[/quote]
I agree but it should have never come to that in the first place.

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[quote=firstdown;414273]I agree but it should have never come to that in the first place.[/quote]I know, but the way our scheduled worked, we had all of our tough games in November.

We played a bad game against the Bills, under understandable conditions, but outside of that we just happened to have to play New England, Philadelphia, Dallas, and Tampa Bay in a period of 5 weeks. It should shock no one that we went 1-4 in that time period.

Outside of that stretch of the schedule, we baically had average opponents, and went 8-3 against them. To me, I was not all that surprised by the outcome.

It just seemed like we got lucky to string together 4 wins, but in reality, that's just when we happened to be scheduled against the Bears, Giants, Vikings, and a Cowboys team that was resting its starters and playing shitty football. It shouldn't be a shock that we could win those games.

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I am not ready to delve into the depths of doom and gloom that these "fans" who are already sitting on the edge of the cliff are ready to do.

San Diego if i remember correctly changed HC, OC, DC in the last 12 months and still did ok (in fact, in terms of playoff play, they did better this season than last, with a poorer reg. season record), we may not be up there with SD in terms of talent, but we're sure as heck not down with the Dolphins/Raiders/Jets.

Zorn, a former QB, former QB coach will get the most from JC - something which I don't think we have seen.
Blache, in terms of continuity, he knows the players, they know him, the system shouldn't change a whole lot under him.

I am confident that Dan will make the right decision (in my mind, preferrably Mooch, Spagnuolo or Daniels - the ONE guy I am dead set against is Fassel).

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What do you have against Fassel?

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RESIGN LAVAR!!! Oh sorry, wrong thread.

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The guy apparently got fired halfway through a Ravens season as he was going about it half-assed, waiting on his next HC gig.
As OC I don't think he even got their O into the top 20 in the league - I want our next HC to be hungry, not to be doing things by halves.

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Yes, Snyder needs to sell the team. He is responsible for the mess Joe Gibbs had to come out of retirement to correct. Now he's set to destroy it again.

Those of you who are taking the 'wait and see' attitude are not taking into account this moron's past actions! [B]The man has been nothing if not consistent! [I]He has never considered the effect his disasterous decisions would have on the team, from hiring Deion Sanders (which, you may remember, cost millions more than that overrated bozo was worth and ended up benching up the much more talented and underpaid Darrell Green), to hiring Shittneheimer, then the worst of the worst, Steve Spurrier, let alone the other many horrendous mistakes and miscues this man has made![/I][/B]

[I]The only smart decision he ever made for this team was bringing Joe Gibbs back. (Those of you who think he was simply too old: what has that got to do with it? Had any other coach been in his place when Sean Taylor died, this team would have self destructed. I, for one, am sick of people selling this man short. Don't forget the laughingstock Spurrier had made it, after the downward spiral led by Danny Boy. Look at how far up he had to take it, and how far it rose? You people need to get some perspective.)[/I]

[B][I]THE WORST DECISION HE EVER MADE WAS BUYING THE TEAM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!![/I][/B]

[B][B]DAN SNYDER: SELL THE TEAM ASAP!!! STOP THE DESTRUCTION!!![/B][/B]

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I see. I think the Ravens disaster will actually make him hungrier. I think he really is determined to proved that was a fluke. More importantly though, I think he could do a good job holding the team together. I think the real work in terms of schemes and putting the players in the best position to play will be in the hands of Zorn and Blache.

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[QUOTE=maxiemom;414305]Yes, Snyder needs to sell the team. He is responsible for the mess Joe Gibbs had to come out of retirement to correct. Now he's set to destroy it again.

Those of you who are taking the 'wait and see' attitude are not taking into account this moron's past actions! [B]The man has been nothing if not consistent! [I]He has never considered the effect his disasterous decisions would have on the team, from hiring Deion Sanders (which, you may remember, cost millions more than that overrated bozo was worth and ended up benching up the much more talented and underpaid Darrell Green), to hiring Shottenheimer, then the worst of the worst, Steve Spurrier, let alone the other many horrendous mistakes and miscues this man has made![/I][/B]

[I]The only smart decision he ever made for this team was bringing Joe Gibbs back. (Those of you who think he was simply too old: what has that got to do with it? Had any other coach been in his place when Sean Taylor died, this team would have self destructed. I, for one, am sick of people selling this man short. Don't forget the laughingstock Spurrier had made it, after the downward spiral led by Danny Boy. Look at how far up he had to take it, and how far it rose? You people need to get some perspective.)[/I]

[B][I]THE WORST DECISION HE EVER MADE WAS BUYING THE TEAM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!![/I][/B]

[B][B]DAN SNYDER: SELL THE TEAM ASAP!!! STOP THE DESTRUCTION!!![/B][/B][/QUOTE]

1. The all bold, all capital letters act is getting old. That ends now

2. If you only joined this site to rant and rave and offer nothing of value to the discussion take it somewhere else

3. Say hi to the kids :)

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Yeah Smootsmack, it could make him hungrier - having looked at his NYG record, he seemed to be pretty competitive almost every year.
Having said I am against the idea of hiring him, it doesn't mean if he is hired I will boycott the team or anything - just that I'd be coming in with the attitude that he'd have to win me over a little more than say a fresh face like Daniels or Spagnuolo who wouldn't be coming in with this shadow hanging over them.

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We shall see, I am not very happy about was has happened already to the team.