Are we the Detroit Lions?
 

It is becoming painfully more obvious that we are laughed at around the league. From the way we handle the draft to the way we hire a coach to throwing cash at underachievers. Yet, we still sell out every game and the fan base grows. Almost every city in the country has an official Redskins fan club. The owner tries hard to win a championship (despite his failings) and will spend money. The fans care. The team has legacy and a strong history.
What's wrong?
In Detroit, DC, Cleveland and Kansas City fans live for their team (among others). The average Bostonian would rather see the Sox play a day game than another SB. In NY they have so many teams in different sports it's hard to say which is biggest. But these are the SB teams?
We are Detroit now. Vinny is Matt Millen and beautiful FedEx is just like beautiful Ford Field (though they at least can get a SB hosted there).
I pray that we don't endure the gap between championships that Detroit has, but it wouldn't suprise me.
So find solace, fellow fans, there are others like us out there. Of course, we can still laugh at the Texans. For now.

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LOL and the doom and gloom continues.

Yawn.

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we were more like the raiders with snyder impersonating Al Davis.

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Another ridiculous thread.....

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Over the past 15 years the Skins are closer to being the Lions & Cards than they are to being the Cowboys & Pats.

Nobody (except for the Kool-Aid drinkers on this site) sees the Skins as an elite team anymore. They are seen as a disorganized mess where underachieving players go to get paid.

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[quote=irish;414324]Over the past 15 years the Skins are closer to being the Lions & Cards than they are to being the Cowboys & Pats.

Nobody (except for the Kool-Aid drinkers on this site) sees the Skins as an elite team anymore. They are seen as a disorganized mess where underachieving players go to get paid.[/quote]Why lump the Cowboys in with the Pats?

What does Jerry Jones do that Dan Snyder doesn't? More importantly, what does Jones do that Belichick/Pioli also do?

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[quote=irish;414324]Over the past 15 years the Skins are closer to being the Lions & Cards than they are to being the Cowboys & Pats.

Nobody (except for the Kool-Aid drinkers on this site) sees the Skins as an elite team anymore. They are seen as a disorganized mess where underachieving players go to get paid.[/quote]


LOL. I don't even think the "kool aid drinkers" see the Skins as an elite team.

And what makes the Cowboys so much better than the Skins? Why are you a fan of the Redskins? Seriously.

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[quote=GTripp0012;414327]Why lump the Cowboys in with the Pats?

What does Jerry Jones do that Dan Snyder doesn't? More importantly, what does Jones do that Belichick/Pioli also do?[/quote]

Yeah seriously.

When was the last time Dallas won a playoff game??

Here's the kicker, even the lowly Redskins have won one more recently.

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The Skins haven't been an elite team in quite some time, but they certainly haven't been quite as bad as the Detroits and Arizonas of the NFL world. Last time I checked neither of those teams made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;414328]LOL. I don't even think the "kool aid drinkers" see the Skins as an elite team.

And what makes the Cowboys so much better than the Skins? Why are you a fan of the Redskins? Seriously.[/QUOTE]

What makes the Cowboys better than the Skins? Since the Skins last Super Bowl win the Cowboys have won as many Super Bowls as the Skins have playoff appearances.

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[quote=Mattyk72;414333]The Skins haven't been an elite team in quite some time, but they certainly haven't been quite as bad as the Detroits and Arizonas of the NFL world. Last time I checked neither of those teams made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 seasons.[/quote]Or 2 of the last 15...

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[quote=irish;414334]What makes the Cowboys better than the Skins? Since the Skins last Super Bowl win the Cowboys have won as many Super Bowls as the Skins have playoff appearances.[/quote]And they've sustained that beautifully.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;414327]Why lump the Cowboys in with the Pats?

What does Jerry Jones do that Dan Snyder doesn't? More importantly, what does Jones do that Belichick/Pioli also do?[/QUOTE]

Waht does JJ do that DS doesnt? That's easy, win.

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[quote=irish;414334]What makes the Cowboys better than the Skins? Since the Skins last Super Bowl win the Cowboys have won as many Super Bowls as the Skins have playoff appearances.[/quote]

Since the Cowboys last Super Bowl appearance, they haven't even won a playoff game. Thats one less than the Redskins.

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[quote=GTripp0012;414335]Or 2 of the last 15...[/quote]

Actually that would be 3 of 15.

But hey why stop there, let's just keep going back 20 years, 25 years, hell even 50 years.

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Dallas Cowboys wins by year, 1997 to present:

6,10,8,5,5,5,10,6,9,9,13. Four games below .500 in that span. Zero playoff wins.

Go JJ!

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[quote=irish;414334]What makes the Cowboys better than the Skins? Since the Skins last Super Bowl win the Cowboys have won as many Super Bowls as the Skins have playoff appearances.[/quote]

The Cowboys run of the 90's is long over with in case you missed it. Not really relevant to today or even this decade.

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[quote=GTripp0012;414346]Dallas Cowboys wins by year, 1997 to present:

6,10,8,5,5,5,10,6,9,9,13. Four games below .500 in that span. Zero playoff wins.

Go JJ![/quote]

Yeah, real elite.

:doh:

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[quote=Mattyk72;414348]Yeah, real elite.

:doh:[/quote]Right up there with the Pats.

He could of said the Eagles, and then there would have been a point. But the Cowboys have been every bit as pathetic as the Redskins over the last 12 years and then some.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P;414342]Since the Cowboys last Super Bowl appearance, they haven't even won a playoff game. Thats one less than the Redskins.[/QUOTE]

Hey if you think the Skins and Cowboys are comparable teams over the past 15 years thats fine with me. I happen to think you are wrong but you can have your opinion.

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[quote=Redskins_P;414319]Another ridiculous thread.....[/quote]


Ok then, why click on it? What gets old and ridiculous are the pretend thread police.

Don't like the title of a thread don't click on it.

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[quote=irish;414350]Hey if you think the Skins and Cowboys are comparable teams over the past 15 years thats fine with me. I happen to think you are wrong but you can have your opinion.[/quote]Except you don't get to set a date that arbitrarily ends right after the Skins were the most dominant team in the NFL and when the Cowboys became it, and then try to make an argument that the Cowboys have been better.

No one cares how good the Cowboys were between 15 and 12 years ago. Not me, not their fans, and not Jerry Jones. You shouldn't either.

It's OK to admit you are wrong here, really.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;414349]Right up there with the Pats.

He could of said the Eagles, and then there would have been a point. But the Cowboys have been every bit as pathetic as the Redskins over the last 12 years and then some.[/QUOTE]

I was not trying to compare the Skins to the Cowboys. My point is that the Skins are closer to a bottom dweller than to the top.

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15 years ago the Patriots were one of the worst franchises in all of sports. How is that relevant to today? Why do people always want to dig so far into the past when talking about the current state of different franchises?? How about a more realistic time frame? Maybe the last 5-7 years?

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[quote=mredskins;414351]Ok then, why click on it? What gets old and ridiculous are the pretend thread police.

Don't like the title of a thread don't click on it.[/quote]

Thread police? Ok.

Its just an opinion buddy. Sorry for trying to be pretend thread police, LOL.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;414346]Dallas Cowboys wins by year, 1997 to present:

6,10,8,5,5,5,10,6,9,9,13. Four games below .500 in that span. Zero playoff wins.

Go JJ![/QUOTE]

I have no idea (which is why I am asking) but how many games below .500 are the Skins since 1997?

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[quote=irish;414353]I was not trying to compare the Skins to the Cowboys. My point is that the Skins are closer to a bottom dweller than to the top.[/quote]

And our point is the Cowboys aren't as close to the top as you think, not even close looking at recent years.

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[quote=mredskins;414351]Ok then, why click on it? What gets old and ridiculous are the pretend thread police.

Don't like the title of a thread don't click on it.[/quote]

So what does that make you? Police of the thread police?

If you don't like it, why comment?

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[quote=irish;414356]I have no idea (which is why I am asking) but how many games below .500 are the Skins since 1997?[/quote]Eleven.

Clearly the Skins are not the model NFL Franchise. But eleven games under is comprable to Dallas.

Because New England is 56 games over .500 in that timeframe.

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 

We are not the Detroit Lions. No winning record since 2000, no playoffs since 1999, no playoff win since 1991, no Super Bowl titles, no League title since 1957.

And while the Redskins are not among the elite, they are not among the bottom dwellers either.

Next question.

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For the record in this decade the Cowboys are 62-66. The Redskins are 58-70. A whopping 4 game difference.

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[quote=Mattyk72;414358]So what does that make you? Police of the thread police?

If you don't like it, why comment?[/quote]

Exactly

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The Cards are 52 games below .500 since 1997

The Lions are also 52 games below .500 since 1997.

So conclusion: Lions comparable to Cards, Skins comparable to Cowboys, Pats comparable to no one.

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I do like pie...

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[quote=GTripp0012;414366]The Cards are 52 games below .500 since 1997

The Lions are also 52 games below .500 since 1997.

[B]So conclusion: Lions comparable to Cards, Skins comparable to Cowboys, Pats comparable to no one[/B].[/quote]

Pretty much.

But that doesn't make good drama.

This does: [B][SIZE=4]SNYDER NEEDS TO SELL THE TEAM[/SIZE][/B]

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[quote=mredskins;414363]Exactly[/quote]

Never said I didn't like the thread. I just thought the idea of comparing the Skins to Lions is ridiculous. Comprende?

You still haven't added anything to this thread. So why are you here?

I may have said it was ridiculous, but its not like I blasted anyone....

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[quote=Redskins_P;414370]Never said I didn't like the thread. I just thought the idea of comparing the Skins to Lions is ridiculous. Comprende?

You still haven't added anything to this thread. So why are you here?

I may have said it was ridiculous, but its not like I blasted anyone....[/quote]

I was agreeing with Matty, if I didn't like your post I should have said nothing.

I didn't take my own advice.

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[quote=mredskins;414376]I was agreeing with Matty, if I didn't like your post I should have said nothing.

I didn't take my own advice.[/quote]


All good bro....

Re: Are we the Detroit Lions?
 

[quote=rypper11;414313]It is becoming painfully more obvious that we are laughed at around the league. From the way we handle the draft to the way we hire a coach to throwing cash at underachievers. Yet, we still sell out every game and the fan base grows. Almost every city in the country has an official Redskins fan club. The owner tries hard to win a championship (despite his failings) and will spend money. The fans care. The team has legacy and a strong history.
What's wrong?
In Detroit, DC, Cleveland and Kansas City fans live for their team (among others). The average Bostonian would rather see the Sox play a day game than another SB. In NY they have so many teams in different sports it's hard to say which is biggest. But these are the SB teams?
We are Detroit now. Vinny is Matt Millen and beautiful FedEx is just like beautiful Ford Field (though they at least can get a SB hosted there).
I pray that we don't endure the gap between championships that Detroit has, but it wouldn't suprise me.
So find solace, fellow fans, there are others like us out there. Of course, we can still laugh at the Texans. For now.[/quote]
Well your first pargraph listed things that happened while Gibbs was here so I guess we have been the laughing stock for the past 4 years and more.

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I think Snyder sold most of our members' brains.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous threads EVER.