Is Josh McDaniels a real possibility?
 

If memory serves me correct, I thought I read somewhere or heard something that Josh McDaniels could get an interview from DS. I keep hearing about Steve Spagnoulo having an interview after the SuperBowl but I think JM would be a great candidate to become our next head coach. He obviously has received some extensive tutoring via Coach Belichick and has shown he can help run an effective offense. This would definitely be an upgrade... well at least on the offensive side of the ball. It would be a nice change in my opinion to have a young coach making the calls.

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I don't want Josh McDaniels. He's too young and he's only been a coordinator for one year. He's been calling the plays for one of the most talented offenses in NFL history. Anybody could do what he has done this year.

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With Zorn I don't see the advantage of having McDaniels

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Steveo...get your story straight. JM has been the Patriots offensive coordinator for the last 2 seasons. He was also the QB coach for the 2 years before than. In 2005 when the Patriots went throught the season "without a OC" it was said that he actually ran the offense that season as well. JM should be considered at least. Remember, the offensive side of the ball is where we struggled last year. What would be better than to have an offensive minded coach.

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McDaniels has only two years & Spags has only one year as a Coordinator. Neither are ready for a Head Coaching position IMO.

Plus I agree w/Steveo, give me Brady, Moss, Welker, Watson, Maroney and the Pats OL and I'm sure I could've gotten them to the SB too.

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[quote=SmootSmack;414510]With Zorn I don't see the advantage of having McDaniels[/quote] I see your opinion but with all the other names being thrown at there for head coach, none really stand out IMO.

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[quote=steveo395;414504]I don't want Josh McDaniels. He's too young and he's only been a coordinator for one year. He's been calling the plays for one of the most talented offenses in NFL history. Anybody could do what he has done this year.[/quote]

I think he has been the coordinator for two years, and seemingly has been calling the plays for 3 years. Im not sure if thats true just what i read.

Edit: sorry started typing this half an hour ago

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Josh McDaniels has about the same chance of becoming the next HC of the Redskins as the Queen has of becoming the next King...............Not Going To Happen.

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no way rather have fassell

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Not enough experience and why would he leave a franchise that has it together to one with no structure.

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When I first saw this thread I thought you were making a case for some draft prospect named Josh McDaniels. I mean to me the guy is known as the Patriots O-Coordinator. Anyway I think there to many factors working against this.

1. The guy is old enough to be a player
2. The hire wouldn't really be the "sexy" kind of hire that Snyder is known for.
3. As someone pointed out Bellicheck would probably advise McDaniels against taking the Redskin job
4. You already got Zorn and on that note the HC would have to mesh with Zorn in terms of offensive phillosophy (Fassel and Mooch).

and on a personal note I don't rush the gun to call a guy an offensive genius that has had the type of pieces that McDaniels has had to work with especially when hes only been working as a coordinator for two years and an offensive coach for 4.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;414560]When I first saw this thread I thought you were making a case for some draft prospect named Josh McDaniels. I mean to me the guy is known as the Patriots O-Coordinator. Anyway I think there to many factors working against this.

1. The guy is old enough to be a player
2. The hire wouldn't really be the "sexy" kind of hire that Snyder is known for.
3. As someone pointed out Bellicheck would probably advise McDaniels against taking the Redskin job
4. You already got Zorn and on that note the HC would have to mesh with Zorn in terms of offensive phillosophy (Fassel and Mooch).

and on a personal note I don't rush the gun to call a guy an offensive genius that has had the type of pieces that McDaniels has had to work with especially when hes only been working as a coordinator for two years and an offensive coach for 4.[/quote]

no offense to the case your making but your basically saying that if the Patriots win the Superbowl that McDaniels wouldn't be a "sexy" hire? C'Mon, and Fassell is? I understand that the Patriots have great offensive targets on the field for Tom Brady but look at last year and the previous year. I wouldn't say their offense sucked. Del Rio, Gruden were both young when they started and looked how they helped turn their franchises around. And last, I was just stating that he would be a good candidate to interview, simply that. I'm not stating that he should be our head coach but just merely a candidate.

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Out of McDaniels, Fassell, and Spagnulo JM is my top choice. Through Mucch into the mix and Id be ok with either. Im just saying I prefer JM over Fassell and Spags. Give it a go with a young guy with new ideas. Can you imagine an offense where everyone gets the ball? God what a dream. Im ok if DS hires him.

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Unless McDaniels will bring Tom Brady with him, my guess is that he'll be a complete bust wherever he goes.

Similar to Norv without Aikman, Smith and Irvin.

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McDaniels lacks head coaching experience. Doesn't it make sense (in the Skins' case) to have a seasoned head coach who has worked with a full staff under him -- and with an owner over him?

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Imagine yourself an assistant coach on the best football franchise over the last, oh, 6 years?? McDaniels I don't think is older then me!!! 6 years of football is a lot in his young age - why in the WORLD would you leave New England for a gig with still many unknowns, a meddlesome (don't tell me I'm wrong) owner and a fan/media base that can be downright cut-throat?

Snyder has made his choices as to the 'true' Coaches on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. On one side he appears to be keeping the ''Worker Ants'' (those that really have the connection with the players) personel together. On the other he appears to have been sold that Jim Zorn can really help to show the best Jason17 has to offer.

This leaves...... a Head Coach who can mold Zorn and Blache into the best they can be; allow them to grow as coaches in this leage. A HC that can smooth over the media after a loss and keep the team focused after a big win. A HC that hopefully will not feel the need to step over the play-calling on 3rd/4th and short, a HC that will not put all his chips into one side of the ball (ole'BallCoach) and ignore the other two aspects. I really do feel Snyder is doing this right by looking at ALL his options and telling any HC candidate "you will not be above me or this team, this is not about your ego, this is about winning ball games".

I don't even know if Snyder has botched the process - ever think maybe we and the media made everything out to be more then it is. Perhaps GW knew all along he 'had' a chance but it would be tough once Coach Joe left. Perhaps Saunders saw the writing on the wall 2/3's of the way into the season. Perhaps Snyder simply is trying to do the right thing at a slower, thought out pace and we the fans (24/7 on the internet), media 24/7 all over Ashburn, tracking his plane, etc... have really turned this 'sneeze' into a 'tornado'.

I truly believe when the dust settles and we draft well (with more picks then we've had in YEARS) that all this will blow over and we will start anew - with a new staff, a young QB that we know has the talent and perhaps those of us born after 1980 can start the tale of "Coach _ _ _ _ _ _" - just like those of you got to do when you were 27 years old, a 'Skins fan and Coach Joe (this relative UNKNOWN) took over our beloved Redskins.

HAIL!!!

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[quote=IggyG;414502]If memory serves me correct, I thought I read somewhere or heard something that Josh McDaniels could get an interview from DS. I keep hearing about Steve Spagnoulo having an interview after the SuperBowl but I think JM would be a great candidate to become our next head coach. He obviously has received some extensive tutoring via Coach Belichick and has shown he can help run an effective offense. This would definitely be an upgrade... well at least on the offensive side of the ball. It would be a nice change in my opinion to have a young coach making the calls.[/quote]

C'mon dude. He's not coming here. Why would he come here when the OC is already in place, and the OC in place runs a different type of offense than he does?

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;414512]McDaniels has only two years & Spags has only one year as a Coordinator. Neither are ready for a Head Coaching position IMO.

Plus I agree w/Steveo, give me Brady, Moss, Welker, Watson, Maroney and the Pats OL and I'm sure I could've gotten them to the SB too.[/quote]I'd take Mariuchi as a head coach from the WCO tree McDaniels, and Schwartz as defensive HC before Spagnuolo.

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[quote=Cap'nChaos47;414702]Imagine yourself an assistant coach on the best football franchise over the last, oh, 6 years?? McDaniels I don't think is older then me!!! 6 years of football is a lot in his young age - why in the WORLD would you leave New England for a gig with still many unknowns, a meddlesome (don't tell me I'm wrong) owner and a fan/media base that can be downright cut-throat?

Snyder has made his choices as to the 'true' Coaches on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. On one side he appears to be keeping the ''Worker Ants'' (those that really have the connection with the players) personel together. On the other he appears to have been sold that Jim Zorn can really help to show the best Jason17 has to offer.

This leaves...... a Head Coach who can mold Zorn and Blache into the best they can be; allow them to grow as coaches in this leage. A HC that can smooth over the media after a loss and keep the team focused after a big win. A HC that hopefully will not feel the need to step over the play-calling on 3rd/4th and short, a HC that will not put all his chips into one side of the ball (ole'BallCoach) and ignore the other two aspects. I really do feel Snyder is doing this right by looking at ALL his options and telling any HC candidate "you will not be above me or this team, this is not about your ego, this is about winning ball games".

I don't even know if Snyder has botched the process - ever think maybe we and the media made everything out to be more then it is. Perhaps GW knew all along he 'had' a chance but it would be tough once Coach Joe left. Perhaps Saunders saw the writing on the wall 2/3's of the way into the season. Perhaps Snyder simply is trying to do the right thing at a slower, thought out pace and we the fans (24/7 on the internet), media 24/7 all over Ashburn, tracking his plane, etc... have really turned this 'sneeze' into a 'tornado'.

I truly believe when the dust settles and we draft well (with more picks then we've had in YEARS) that all this will blow over and we will start anew - with a new staff, a young QB that we know has the talent and perhaps those of us born after 1980 can start the tale of "Coach _ _ _ _ _ _" - just like those of you got to do when you were 27 years old, a 'Skins fan and Coach Joe (this relative UNKNOWN) took over our beloved Redskins.

HAIL!!![/quote]

Nice post and I am over 40. We dont really know what is going on and until a coach is actually announced no one has enough information to ridicule Snyder like the media and fans base have these past few weeks. What happens if Snyder hires some fairly unknown coordinater and he turns out to be the next Joe Gibbs? The NFL is all about staying ahead of the curve so I have no problem bringing in some new blood. Snyder has the opportunity to either find the next great head coach or hire an NFL retread who couldn't get it done at his last job in most cases. Atleast he is taking the time to actually attempt to find the right guy rather then jumping on the first guy who comes along to appease an angry and impatient fanbase.

When the season ended DS thought Joe Gibbs would be his coach going forward and now many of you only a few weeks later want him to not just find a headcoach but demand he is the best headcoach. How is he supposed to find the right guy but also do it under the time demands of an impatient fanbase? Take your time Danny but make sure you get the best man for the job.

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[quote=TrustinGibbs;414744]Nice post and I am over 40. We dont really know what is going on and until a coach is actually announced no one has enough information to ridicule Snyder like the media and fans base have these past few weeks. What happens if Snyder hires some fairly unknown coordinater and he turns out to be the next Joe Gibbs? The NFL is all about staying ahead of the curve so I have no problem bringing in some new blood. Snyder has the opportunity to either find the next great head coach or hire an NFL retread who couldn't get it done at his last job in most cases. Atleast he is taking the time to actually attempt to find the right guy rather then jumping on the first guy who comes along to appease an angry and impatient fanbase.

When the season ended DS thought Joe Gibbs would be his coach going forward and now many of you only a few weeks later want him to not just find a headcoach but demand he is the best headcoach. How is he supposed to find the right guy but also do it under the time demands of an impatient fanbase? Take your time Danny but make sure you get the best man for the job.[/quote]

Joe Gibbs is not Joe Gibbs w/out Bobby B. Charley C. JKC and Ritchie P. One day Snyder will learn.

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Seeing McDaniels up close and personal these past couple of years, I don't think he's the choice for the Skins at this time. While most of the pieces are in place for the team to continue on a positive slope towards a championship, I think a secure veteran coach would be better able to take a team that's close and build on it, rather than a first-timer who's upside is unknown, as well as an unknown downside. When Mangini left the Patriots, he had a great season with a team with a last place schedule. This past year, wasn't a step forward, and now the rumblings begin. And Mangini had never run the whole show prior to the Jets hire.

I love Mooch as a hire, if he has any communication with Zorn about a philosophy that can be meshed, but I'm thinking that Fassel or Giants boy is more like the hire. Fassel maybe, as he has coached in a Super Bowl, but as other replies have stated, he's not an "electric" hire that Danny Boy would like to spark the team and fan base. Which I don't really think this team needs. The Falcons needed a spark, and they got a dude. A solid hire is the best way to go for the Skins.

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[quote=PatsFanForever;414751]

I love Mooch as a hire, if he has any communication with Zorn about a philosophy that can be meshed, but I'm thinking that Fassel or Giants boy is more like the hire. Fassel maybe, as he has coached in a Super Bowl, but as other replies have stated, he's not an "electric" hire that Danny Boy would like to spark the team and fan base. Which I don't really think this team needs. The Falcons needed a spark, and they got a dude. A solid hire is the best way to go for the Skins.[/quote]

Lol! Yes please don't distract our coordinator so we can win our 11,000th Super Bowl title in the last 6 years. Come to think of it I wonder how many years it will take the Raiders to accumulate 18 wins? *Just a thought*

But on a serious note I agree with you on Mooch.

However I think the Falcons would have been better off if they had taken a shot at a guy like GW, Marty, or Meeks rather then a guy who most people didn't even know existed (same thing goes for the Ravens). They also seemed to have hired Bobby Petrino 2.0 as their defensive coordinator (Rob VanQuitter) who ironically was the head coach at my school (Georgia Southern) for an entire year before he quit after amassing somewhere around 4 wins.

Also can you imagine the uproar that would have taken place had the Falcons snatched GW while Dan Snyder was going through the process? I sware I think people would actually grab pitchforks and run down to Redskin Park.

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I dont see either of those two to get the job. Spagnola or McDaniels. Two of the indicaters are the recent hirings on both sides of the ball. I dont think they would bring in Spagnola when they hired Blache and kept the staff in tact. Spagnola would want to bring in his D people and run a different style than what williams/blache had here. Same goes w/ McDaniels. hiring Zorn would work against that as well since they have two totally different approaches. I think its between Stever M and Fassell. Both have interviewed giving the signings of coordinators thier approval.

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[quote=skinsfan69;414748]Joe Gibbs is not Joe Gibbs w/out Bobby B. Charley C. JKC and Ritchie P.[/quote]

Touche'...but ask yourself one thing. What did those guys ever win without Joe Gibbs? Nothing. Gibbs goes elsewhere and he still finds a way to win Super Bowls for another franchise because he was that great, that innovative on the offensive side of the ball and one of the greatest leaders of men sports has ever seen. Gibbs doesn't come to Washington when he did Beatherd, Casserly, Kent Cooke and Petibone probably never win a single Super Bowl with the Redskin's.

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Can't see McDaniels. This is a veteran team, with a veteran coaching staff and a fan base demanding credentials from it's head coach. It's not a good fit for him or Spags.

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[quote=TrustinGibbs;414783]Touche'...but ask yourself one thing. What did those guys ever win without Joe Gibbs? Nothing. Gibbs goes elsewhere and he still finds a way to win Super Bowls for another franchise because he was that great, that innovative on the offensive side of the ball and one of the greatest leaders of men sports has ever seen. Gibbs doesn't come to Washington when he did Beatherd, Casserly, Kent Cooke and Petibone probably never win a single Super Bowl with the Redskin's.[/quote]


If memory serves me correct, Bethard build a pretty damn good San Diego team that went to the Super Bowl. Casserly, unfortunately was trying to build a Texans franchise from the ground up, with mostly draft picks no using the FA pool so much. And, by all accounts, they may be turning the corner based on a decent season this past year.

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no way. calling plays for the skins is going to be a bit harder than calling plays for brady and randy moss. he's got the easiest job in the world right now.

btw, the NE coaching tree hasn't exactly rocketted itself to the top thusfar.