Sally Jenkins' Best article yet
 

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I dont think we have talked about yet. But her latest article is right on the money. I guess she is not all that bad. lol It has a some good points in it.

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Come on, she compared Snyder to a little boy. While I don't agree with how Snyder is running the Skins like a circus, I do assume he's at least TRYING to do what he thinks is right for the team (and Im neutral on whether what he's doing is wrong or right).

Sally Jenkins really needs to be put in a burlap bag and beaten for a while. I can't respect anyone's opinion who gets their jollies (and their paycheck) by crapping on the local team, IN the mother-loving local paper.

Whatevs.

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I read that article and my only surprise is that she didn't release this article sooner than what she did. She ranks up there with Pastabelly.

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I agree that was a good article by Jenkins. One of her best in a long time.

Just curious. Did Pasquarelli ever apologize to the Taylor family for jumping the gun when it came out that Sean was shot? Pasquarelli had no problem saying it was because of Sean's past. Any respect I may have had for him as a journalist went out the window that day.

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Love it. Snyder is an rich, arrogant, idiot.

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It's a piece of crap article. Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in.

All she says basically is "I don't know what happened but I'm going to take a lot of shot at Snyder because I have nothing better to do"

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Pure trash. She knows nothing more than any of us. This is par for the course for her, earning her paycheck by trashing the Skins with little facts or logic to back up her stupid one-liners. How is comparing Snyder to a little kid with all the toy references and 80s kids stuff "insightful journalism". She's probably just pissed no one at Redskins Park will talk to her dumb-ass. She's our local version of Len Pastabelly, a mean-spirited, spiteful, angry person.

Her article could've been written by cut-and-paste from many of the uneducated posts we've seen here since Gibbs resigned. Since I found the WarPath I have no need to read the Post or anything from any of its writers other than JLC. I'm surprised Jenkins is still on the Post's payroll. Has she written anything positive about the Skins in the last few years. I sure don't recall anything.

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[quote=SmootSmack;414622]It's a piece of crap article. Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in.

All she says basically is "I don't know what happened but I'm going to take a lot of shot at Snyder because I have nothing better to do"[/quote]
Nice way to talk about your clientele(Basically calling us pieces of crap). So much for the customer is always right.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;414631]Nice way to talk about your clientele(Basically calling us pieces of crap). So much for the customer is always right.[/quote]

Uh. He called the article crap, not us.

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If it bothers us so much that others in the media world are always being so critical of Dan Snyder and our beloved Redskins, then we must be reminded of the fact that "charitty starts at home". I'm pretty sure Snyder does not visit fan forums but there probably are some media types that do, and take their cue from us.......[and say]

We find it truly amazing how some Redskins fans can be so critical of their owner, and the method in which he operates, yet find it offensive when others outside the organization echo the same sentiments, and when they do, the backlash is on.

Shortly, someone will start a new thread complaining about how & why the media is always spinning bad tidings about the Redskins.

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Well, I see this statement differently. Smootsmack said "Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in." Maybe I am completely misunderstanding it.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414638]Well, I see this statement differently. Smootsmack said "Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in." Maybe I am completely misunderstanding it.[/QUOTE]

Completely misunderstanding what?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;414638]Well, I see this statement differently. Smootsmack said "Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in." Maybe I am completely misunderstanding it.[/quote]

I think he was comparing the negativity in the article to the negativity that often fills the boards around here.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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[quote=SmootSmack;414622]It's a piece of crap article. Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in.

All she says basically is "I don't know what happened but I'm going to take a lot of shot at Snyder because I have nothing better to do"[/quote]

100% trash as usual from sally! Shes a junk journalist! And thats being VERY NICE....

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The frantic defense of Lil' Danny and his 50-62 record is quite comical.

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You newbie posters really have no respect for what this site provides. Go to ExtremeSkins or another site and try to have reasonable debate without being censored or totally confused.

Yea mods will show there opinions but I disagree with them all the time, but I am still here. No bans or anything.

Some threads might be shut down, but it is usually because there are duplicates, or if the thread is just simple bitching. No appreciation here I swear. If posters really find it annoying just leave.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414638]Well, I see this statement differently. Smootsmack said "Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in." Maybe I am completely misunderstanding it.[/QUOTE]


When you combine all the critical analysis with the gloom and doom from some posters, maybe Sally would find refuge here. As I said before "charity starts at home".

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He's our Danny, and only we can bash him. Kind of like our kids.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven;414650]The frantic defense of Lil' Danny and his 50-62 record is quite comical.[/QUOTE]

C'mon the article was pure bull and you know it. Making comments about Land of the Lost and Voltron toys. Here I shouldn't expect much I suppose, but Sally Jenkins is paid to write for one of the world's most prestigious and well-respected papers. And this is the best she can come up with?

There's been plenty of continuity but all she wants to focus on is Williams (and to a lesser extent Saunders).

F' her (but not in a good way).

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Best article yet? A 7th grader could have written this. I mean video game and Voltron references? If you looked up "hack" in the dictionary her picture should be there. This is supposed to be professional journalism? A 700 word attack on the owner with no thought or insight involved? I'm not a big Snyder fan at all, but this is a joke.

SmootSmack is right. We should invite her here and let her add to the "drivel." I'm still in amazement that the article I just read was actually printed in The Washington Post.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414638]Well, I see this statement differently. Smootsmack said "Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in." Maybe I am completely misunderstanding it.[/QUOTE]

I think you are confused about this site and forum sites in general if you think the mods have an obligation to be nice to you or anyone. It is us who owe them the good will for maintaining a place like this. As for the article, it's garbage. It's the same schtick she's been running for ages.

Do some reporting and find out what is really going on - and then bash whoever based on that information. Don't just wildly speculate.

And as for the folly of going after unproven assistants to be the headcoach (which is more speculation btw)? Uh, do you need me to explain why that's idiotic and uninformed based on recent NFL trends?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;414631]Nice way to talk about your clientele(Basically calling us pieces of crap). So much for the customer is always right.[/quote]
Clientele / customer? How much do you pay to view and post to this site?

So Snyder is a "rich, arrogant, idiot" but you're getting your feathers ruffled over SS calling Jenkins' article crap and saying she'd fit in here?

This doesn't make sense to me.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;414685]Clientele / customer? How much do you pay to view and post to this site?

So Snyder is a "rich, arrogant, idiot" but you're getting your feathers ruffled over SS calling Jenkins' article crap and saying she'd fit in here?

This doesn't make sense to me.[/quote]
Well, I assume that the Warpath makes money. I also assume because of the bloggers that view the site, make it a place where people pay to advertise. I am also a customer of Snyder's and a very disgruntled one.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;414686]Well, I assume that the Warpath makes money. I also assume because of the bloggers that view the site, make it a place where people pay to advertise. I am also a customer of Snyder's and a very disgruntled one.[/quote]
First I wouldn't assume the Warpath is rolling in money. Bandwidth, servers and admin time have costs so I would bet at best Warpath is breaking even. I also have never seen a pop-up or ad other than the Tony McGee chat. Buying something through a link at the Wapath shop is the only visible sign of income I see other than the folks that pay to be VIPs. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. That said, the only folks who are clientele, and the Mods need to answer to, are those VIPs.

Whether or not you are a customer of Snyder's is irrelevent. This is not Fed-Ex Field, ExtremeSkins or Redskins.com. Not trying to dump on you, just stating facts.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414686]Well, I assume that the Warpath makes money. I also assume because of the bloggers that view the site, make it a place where people pay to advertise. I am also a customer of Snyder's and a very disgruntled one.[/QUOTE]


Well any money this site gets, none of it comes to me. That's for sure. They don't pay me enough to read this shit :)

Anyhow, to make it as clear as possible. What I was saying was that in the past several weeks we've had some really crappy, stupid threads (and not because of the opinions, but the lack of any thought behind those opinions)-not coincidentally I think it all began with the "LaVar in 2008" thread-and Sally Jenkins' crappy article fits right into this trend of dumb threads we've seen here lately. But Sally is a paid professional so you would think she would execute at a higher level.

Here I suppose not so much should be expected. As much as we try to ensure that this is "Discussion for the Knowledgeable Fan" too many reduce it (to steal a phrase from BleedBurgundy) to "Drivel for the Mindless Dolt."

To be sure, we have some great members on this site. But then we have others who think it's their god given right to post whatever idiocies fall out their brain.

Sorry to be harsh, but I am after all...El Malo

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;414700]First I wouldn't assume the Warpath is rolling in money. Bandwidth, servers and admin time have costs so I would bet at best Warpath is breaking even. I also have never seen a pop-up or ad other than the Tony McGee chat. Buying something through a link at the Wapath shop is the only visible sign of income I see other than the folks that pay to be VIPs. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt it. That said, the only folks who are clientele, and the Mods need to answer to, are those VIPs.

Whether or not you are a customer of Snyder's is irrelevent. This is not Fed-Ex Field, ExtremeSkins or Redskins.com. Not trying to dump on you, just stating facts.[/quote]
I think you are wrong about the Warpath not making money, but never the less, if you take away everyone, but the VIP's, I dont think you have a viable website, profitable or not. Also, I was not saying that Warpath and the Redskins were related, I was justifing why I had the right to voice my opinion of our owner.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414717]I think you are wrong about the Warpath not making money, but never the less, if you take away everyone, but the VIP's, I dont think you have a viable website, profitable or not. Also, I was not saying that Warpath and the Redskins were related, I was justifing why I had the right to voice my opinion of our owner.[/QUOTE]

The opinion has to have substance though, can't be the nonsense that Jenkins typed up

And there is no money made here

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If there is one thing that Sally is good at, it is being critical of the Skins.

Unfortunately, in this case I think she is on the money. Browse through the WP comments (as well as the thread on this site) - the fan's perspective on this is almost unanimous.

If there was to be an approval rating for the Boy right now, it would definitely be <10%.

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I believe anyone has the right to say that they want, stupid or not. Just like everyone has the right to not agree with them. But like I said in the Detroit thread, people love to pile on when everything's going wrong. Yet when everything's going right, those some people who love to crap on the team are nowhere to be seen.

And that's not to say that the people who are saying what Snyder is doing is crap, aren't going to come around and eat their share of crow if things pan out. Because a lot of those people are a pretty well-respected crew around here who will eat a piece of humble pie when necessary.

Everyone has the right to say Snyder is a terrible owner and that our front office is run by a bunch of monkeys.

Just like everyone has the right to say that that idea is a bunch of crap. I don't know why people get so jaded when they realize people might think differently than they do.

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[quote=GMScud;414659]Best article yet? A 7th grader could have written this. I mean video game and Voltron references? If you looked up "hack" in the dictionary her picture should be there. This is supposed to be professional journalism? A 700 word attack on the owner with no thought or insight involved? I'm not a big Snyder fan at all, but this is a joke.

SmootSmack is right. We should invite her here and let her add to the "drivel." I'm still in amazement that the article I just read was actually printed in The Washington Post.[/quote]

Agreed. I could see that ridiculous drivel in a junior high newspaper, but the Post? What the heck?

"You know how sometimes kids stare in their food and see a face in it? Maybe that's how Snyder will make a head coaching hire: He'll see the face of the next coach in a grilled cheese sandwich."

Are you kidding? Do you really consider crap like that quality journalism? :vomit:

How could I have believed the title of this thread? I should've known better.

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;414727]I believe anyone has the right to say that they want, stupid or not. Just like everyone has the right to not agree with them. But like I said in the Detroit thread, people love to pile on when everything's going wrong. Yet when everything's going right, those some people who love to crap on the team are nowhere to be seen.

And that's not to say that the people who are saying what Snyder is doing is crap, aren't going to come around and eat their share of crow if things pan out. Because a lot of those people are a pretty well-respected crew around here who will eat a piece of humble pie when necessary.

Everyone has the right to say Snyder is a terrible owner and that our front office is run by a bunch of monkeys.

Just like everyone has the right to say that that idea is a bunch of crap. I don't know why people get so jaded when they realize people might think differently than they do.[/QUOTE]

You're right to an extent.

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[QUOTE=T.O.Killa;414717]I think you are wrong about the Warpath not making money, but never the less, if you take away everyone, but the VIP's, I dont think you have a viable website, profitable or not. Also, I was not saying that Warpath and the Redskins were related, I was justifing why I had the right to voice my opinion of our owner.[/QUOTE]

Well TO looks like there's nothing left for you to do but retire in protest.

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she's f'ing terrible, only writes about the team when bad things happen, and has no idea what's going on since she writes about the redskins FROM NEW YORK!

screw that. I don't even know why the post keeps her employed.

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;414622]It's a piece of crap article. Maybe she should start threads here, she'd fit right in.

All she says basically is "I don't know what happened but I'm going to take a lot of shot at Snyder because I have nothing better to do"[/QUOTE]

How can you compare her to some people starting threads?

I still dont' see what was so wrong with Joe Gibbs 3.0.

It sure as heck is better than Sally's crap!

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I don't even read her articles anymore. As others have noted, she is absent when things are rolling and all over the team when things go sour. I have been critical of the decision to let go of Williams and Saunders, but I'm not going to bother even looking at the words she puts down on paper.

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as far as TO - this site was created in part for the mods (SS/matty) to discuss the redskins, and NOT so they could bow down and agree with every stupid thing that was ever said.

go to ES and complain about how those mods don't agree with you and how they shouldn't treat their "clients" like crap, and watch for the ban hammer to fall. If you're not paying the owners, you're not a client, you're a guest, and whether you stay or go is on you.

If you think the warpath is making gobs of money though, that's absolutely wrong. it started as a yahoo group and then matty decided to get a real site (i believe a lot of the money is still out of his pocket), and he's been adding features ever since (chat rooms, arcade, rep system, etc).

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I think she clip and pasted from post here on this site.

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A pretty childish article if you ask me. I still can't believe she gets paid to write crap like that.

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I read the article, and while I don't mind criticism of the team, Jenkins is just being controversial to be controversial. The toy references are asinine, and are probably just mindless dribble to fill the contents of her column. You want a reaction out of fans? Do some research and state facts, not talk about some toys your children asked for but you didn't get for them.

As far as this site making any money, I'd be surprised if Matty didn't take all the ad money and other sources of revenue from the site and put it right back into the site itself. And if he pockets some for himself, so be it. The site is his to do what he pleases.

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Although a little childishly written, the article is an opinion based piece. She speaks of what alot of people in the media think whether its accurate or not.

Now as far as good points, I think she makes alot of sense. Nothing really new, as we've all been discussing these topics for years now. Childish, yes but seems to be alot of truth to it.