Belichick walking off with time on the clock
 

Did anyone have a problem with that?

I'm sure he's catching major heat for it today.

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I love the fact that they rubbed his nose in it by making them defend for another snap.

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I don't think it's a huge deal really, he did stop and shake hands with and congratulate Coughlin and the Giants before he left the field.

That's how Belichick is, we shouldn't expect him to change

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I thought the Giants should have called one more play for a TD.

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No, not a huge deal. But...

But if there's time on the clock and your team has to line up for one last play and the head coach is halfway up the tunnel, it doesn't really send the best message.

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Yea, I just felt that it was another example of how classless Belichick is. I thinnk everyone knew this would happen if they lost.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;417149]I thought the Giants should have called one more play for a TD.[/quote]

How insane would that have been? Fake taking a knee and toss it up for a TD?! That would have been hilarious.

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Who cares? The only thing he needed to do once the game was done was to congratulate Coughlin, which he did. The refs messed up the clock and ticked it down to :00 - it's not like he pulled a Randy Moss.

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Belichick being his normal, classless self. In fact, I thought it was poor form that the entire Patriots team left without offering any congratulations to the Giants players. Maybe I'm just remembering Super Bowls incorrectly, and I understand it's all about the Giants celebrating when the clock hits zero, but isn't it customary for at least some of the players to shake hands and say "congrats, you guys really earned it today..."?

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At least he congratulated Coughlin. But I think overall Belichick is a sore loser. His interview with Chris Myers after the game was painful to watch. Though I must say I took some glee in it since here's a coach that hates answering to the media and was forced to do that traditional "losing coach" interview...

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While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable. He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that!

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;417143]I don't think it's a huge deal really, he did stop and shake hands with and congratulate Coughlin and the Giants before he left the field.

[B]That's how Belichick is, we shouldn't expect him to change[/B][/QUOTE]

I saw the hand shake and walk off. While I agree that he did shake hands and clearly offered words to Coughlin, my gut feeling is that it was poor sportsmanship. Was it the worst I've ever seen? Nope. Was it consistent with his apparent attitude towards winning and losing? Yup. Does either of those make it the right thing to do? Nope.

It was a meaningless second. He (as anyone would) wanted to get out of there. Do either of those reasons excuse a coach from leaving before his team is off the field? IMHO, no. You're the boss (as he has so evidently made clear in the past). You wait until the game is over and head out. (No need to shake hands a second time). Otherwise, you're just leaving your players out there to face the celebrations alone.

Many a coach stood there for meaningless minutes while your team played its starters with the game's outcome settled - You can man up and wait one second for the game to end.

Belichick is a great coach, but that doesn't mean he should be or is excused from being a poor sport.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;417149]I thought the Giants should have called one more play for a TD.[/QUOTE]

Isn't Belichick the one who said that anytime his offense takes the field he expects them to score?

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He was in a rush to find a quiet corner of the locker room and go cry his guts out.

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He shook hands with Coughlin. No big deal. But I'm sure people will make a big deal out of it.

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I just had a problem, it was with the Tiger Woods Sundays best hoodie he had on. He never wore red before but chosses to on Super Bowl Sunday because he wanted to be camera ready when they were supposed to win the Super Bowl. Too bad for him it didn't happen they way he wanted it.

He was all dressed up with no place to go.

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Belichick is a smug little prick, but this to me isn't that big of a deal.

But you just know there will be a controversy about it. 'Did he shake hands with the opposing coach?' - 'How long was the hand shake?' - 'Did he make enough of eye contact during the handshake?' - 'Was there a hug?' - 'How long did the hug last'?

This kissy-kissy charade the head coaches have to play towards the end of the game is getting a little ridiculous.

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[quote=Hog1;417167]While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable. He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that![/quote]

You really respect the idea that he thinks rules don't apply to him??

Wow. I'd say that's exactly what makes him a first class jerk.

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I didn't have a problem with it. He congratulated Coughlin and walked off. The fact there was .01 on the clock isn't really that relevant IMO.

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[quote=Mattyk72;417192]You really respect the idea that he thinks rules don't apply to him??

Wow. I'd say that's exactly what makes him a first class jerk.[/quote]

I think that is the point. Belicheck has a track record for being a surly arrogant jerk with the media, and frankly he can only blame himself for the ire that he draws from fans and media alike. He runs up the score unnecessarily to embarass opponents, he acts like it is a HUGE imposition to answer questions from the media, he scoffs at the suggestion that his cheating was even remotely responsible for any competitive advantage his teams got from it. The guy is a first class scum-bag, and his petulent child spoiled brat act at the end of the game only cemented his legacy.

If this was Joe G., Herm E., Tony D., Andy R., etc...guys with better reps with the media and fans, then he would probably get a pass. But he's got a shitty reputation, ala Barry Bonds. He made his bed...now he's got to deal with the backlash.

BTW, I would not be at all surprised to see the league "discover" new evidence re: Spygate and suspend his surly ass for 4 games next year. If nothing other than as a bone to throw to Congress to get off their backs.

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Game was over not a big deal. They lost and blew being the best team in NFL history now they're just a choke artist team that bite the bullent hard.

NFC EAST BACK!

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He probably couldnt take to see the Giants celebrating, thats why he went ahead and went in towards the locker room

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The Giants beat them, goes to show that Gibbs really wasn't that off thinking this was our year. That Seattle game haunts us.........

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One second left or not, it's damn poor leadership to leave your team out there. It has nothing to do with relevance or practicality. It's in no way surprising, I would hardly expect better from the most classless coach in the league.

For all the talk of "it's a 60 minute game," the coach, the ultimate leader of the team, not only came up short in the loss, but he left his guys at 59:59. I don't care if it was a mere formality to end the game, no good leader walks off and leaves 11 of his defenders to finish it out.

A good leader is the first in and the last out, at least if he wants to maintain any sense of respect. If I were Belichick's players, I'd be royally pissed right now.

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Half the Patriots were down the tunnel themselves..

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Mike & Mike tallked about this today. Golic makes the same point that's been made here, he shook hands & I think even hugged Coughlin, and the game was over for all intents and purposes. I can't blame him for wanting to get away from the masses.

Also, he was as gracious as he's capable of being in the post game. He gave the giants credit.

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like i said in another post Butt hole of the year

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I think Taylor was at the game also... Notice the winning and losing score had a difference of 21 points each the last time these 2 teams played...
Pats won and had 38 pts last game Giants won this one with 17= 21 pt difference
Giants lost last one with 35 Pats lost this one with 14= 21 pt difference

Sean is everywheres I tell ya.

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I really can't stand Belicheat but I had no problem with that. He really took the time to congratulate Tom Coughlin after whet he thought was the end of the game. I really could care less if he watched the final second tick off the clock or not.

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[QUOTE=freddyg12;417215]Mike & Mike tallked about this today. Golic makes the same point that's been made here, he shook hands & I think even hugged Coughlin, and the game was over for all intents and purposes. I can't blame him for wanting to get away from the masses.

Also, he was as gracious as he's capable of being in the post game. [B]He gave the giants credit.[/[/B]QUOTE]

The only thing I saw, or heard, in regards to Belicheat giving credit was a barely audible mumble to Chris Myers in his post game interview. He definately didn't offer his congrats to either Coughlin or the Giants (from what I personally saw and heard). He's a sore loser (among many other things) plain and simple. Like a parent, or your boss at work, you lead by example. The only thing Belicheat lead was the entourage to the locker room before the last second ticked off. Good bye and good ridence Bill. :Flush:

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[quote=NYCSkin;417160]At least he congratulated Coughlin. But I think overall Belichick is a sore loser. His interview with Chris Myers after the game was painful to watch. Though I must say I took some glee in it since here's a coach that hates answering to the media and was forced to do that traditional "losing coach" interview...[/quote]

Though, in fairness, he sounds the same way when they win.

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i loved it . . he looked like an idiot leading the "games over" parade, half way thru i think he realized there was still time on the clock but didnt want to look like a bigger idiot in having to go back to the sideline so he disregards the time on the clock, goes shakes hands then leaves while his team still has a snap to play . . . making him look like the jerk he is.

very fitting end for him.

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A few years ago in a Week 17 matchup with playoff implications for the Vikes, Randy Moss walked off of the field when it appeared the Redskins had all but wrapped up the game. Moss caught hell for it in the press. On the game's biggest stage, Belichick walked off the field before the game was over. Why isn't Belichick getting roasted the same way Moss did? Granted, Belichick shook Coughlin's hand, but the game was not over.

Now, this "scandal" pales in comparison to Spygate and other incidents involving Belichick, but it's noteworthy. To the extent that people are scrutinizing Belichick's behavior, Belichick brought that on himself for developing a well-deserved reputation of being a classless jerk.

I know "class" and respect for the game means little to some, but it means quite a bit to people like myself who believe that football is more than a game of X and Os and numbers.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;417167]While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable. He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that![/QUOTE]

So, basically you applaud people who are self-centered jerks? So you applaud Randy Moss mooning fans in GB, pushing a parking ticket officer on the top of his car, walking off the field early in Week 17 of 2004, calling out his QBs in public, etc. because it demonstrates that he doesn't care what society thinks and he did what he thought is acceptable?

There's a difference between being honest and being a sociopath.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;417274]So, basically you applaud people who are self-centered jerks? So you applaud Randy Moss mooning fans in GB, pushing a parking ticket officer on the top of his car, walking off the field early in Week 17 of 2004, calling out his QBs in public, etc. because it demonstrates that he doesn't care what society thinks and he did what he thought is acceptable?

There's a difference between being honest and being a sociopath.[/QUOTE]

Mooning the fans in GB was pretty funny if you smoke herb and were high watching it!

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For a group that stresses TEAM comes first, not individuals, Bill truly showed it doesn't apply to him. His TEAM remained on the field without their leader. If I were Bruschi or Vrabel, I'd be making him pay the coffer.

Belichick knew there was time to play. The ref explained it to him as he walked out and after he congratulated Coughlin.

I am glad that the day after one one of the classiest guys aroung got into the HOF, one of the most classless guys in the league finally got knocked down.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;417172]Isn't Belichick the one who said that anytime his offense takes the field he expects them to score?[/quote]

I was saying the same thing last night. How many times have they been up by 20-30 points and went for a 4th down conversion? That would have been appropriate in my opinion. But, I think it would also take away from the Giants winning.

~~Break~~

I saw Bill shake Toms hand, and then walk off, and nobody at the house seemed to have a problem with it. To me, it goes against what Bill was saying about being on the field, expecting to score every down and all that. The bottom line is that he walked off the field and almost his entire team there without thier coach even if it's for only 1 second. Being a Military guy, I'm always going to be the first one in, and the last one out.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;417167]While I do not think BB ALWAYS acts in the best of taste in a given situation (and yesterday is no exception). [B]I TOTALLY applaud his disregard for the "rules" and doing what HE thinks is acceptable.[/B] He obviously spends little time stressing about PC or what somebody else might think of his actions. For the most part, I respect that![/QUOTE]

That's the dumbest thing I've read in the last month, and it's really vying for the dumbest thing I've read on the Warpath. Ever.

Why the hell is rules in quotes? Do you not know how quotation marks work?

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To be clear, I don't condone or applaud what Belichick did. I don't think it should be too hard to stay on the field another few seconds and take defeat like a true professional.

All I'm saying is it's not like he didn't congratulate Coughlin at all and it just seems like this is how he's going to be and I just don't see him changing his ways. I don't know that he can be "forced" to do otherwise.