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dcweldon 02-14-2008 04:16 PM

Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
I am watching ESPN and they are talking to Jerry Porter, and he is talking about the possibility of being let go, or traded. Jerry has stated 'I'm 30 years old, I want to win now."

If things don't work out for him in Oakland, should we go after him in a trade possibility? He wouldn't cost us as much as Chad Johnson, plus the Bengals are nixing any trade rumors of Chad.

Meks 02-14-2008 04:18 PM

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eh, jerry porter is decent but.... i'd rather not spend anything on him, or give up a draft pick for him at all.... theres easier routes

dcweldon 02-14-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
my mistake, Jerry Porter is actually a potential Free Agent..

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 02-14-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
I was just thinking of maybe another big wideout. I love Chad and all but I do not want to trade any picks for other players. I just hope that Zorn is bringing that mindset to our organization. I just hope that he brings the Holmgren approach to out team because we need it.

SC Skins Fan 02-14-2008 04:39 PM

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Interesting possibility. Had some big time potential before things went south in Oakland. Attitude issues exist, but would certainly be cheaper and would not cost draft picks. I'd at least take a long look at him. Porter is also a D.C. native if I'm not mistaken.

Paintrain 02-14-2008 04:41 PM

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I wouldn't be opposed to Porter. He's got some baggage but he brings something we don't have.. Size, decent speed, good hands..

Meks 02-14-2008 04:42 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
if hes a free agent i say yea...

SkinsFanSince91 02-14-2008 04:52 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan;422277]Interesting possibility. Had some big time potential before things went south in Oakland. Attitude issues exist, but would certainly be cheaper and would not cost draft picks. I'd at least take a long look at him. Porter is also a D.C. native if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]

He is a DC native. He went to Coolidge HS.

He would be one of the best bets for us at WR. He is 6'2" 220lbs, and he is tested at an NFL level. I say at WR we pick a big target vet WR like Porter, see what Anthony Mix does in the offseason, and draft another WR in the 5th-7th rounds of the draft.

I too like Chad Johnson, aka Ocho Cinco, but not enough to depart draft picks for him. Remember we did that for Laverneaus Coles, and lost a 1st and 3rd that year to the Jets, and as I recal that did work out too well.

scafuri27 02-14-2008 05:14 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
Not buying it.. 6'2 220 pound WR with NFL expirience (8 years)??? How did that work out for the Bengals when they took Michael Westbrook (6'3 220 lbs) in 2002?..

Look at these stats after 8 years
Porter--284 catches 3900 yards 30 tds

Westbrook--285 catches 4300 yards 26 tds... Porter IMO wouldnt even be a band-aid at this point.. we should draft or try for #85.

Porter=Westbrook... and that aint good!

steveo395 02-14-2008 05:18 PM

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If they're going to sign a receiver, I would want it to either be Porter or Hackett. As long as they don't give up a draft pick or overpay for somebody I'll be happy.

SFREDSKIN 02-14-2008 05:20 PM

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I've watched this guy play and at times he has looked unstoppable other times he has looked like bum. I think if he's heart is in it and being a DC native might be worth the risk at a cost efficient rate.

SmootSmack 02-14-2008 05:29 PM

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West Coast Brandon Lloyd

Seriously though, he's got the talent but will his attitude do a 180 outside of Oakland?

steveo395 02-14-2008 05:31 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;422311]West Coast Brandon Lloyd

Seriously though, he's got the talent but will his attitude do a 180 outside of Oakland?[/quote]
His attitude was fine last year. He only had problems when Art Shell was the coach.

Longtimefan 02-14-2008 05:35 PM

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Don't know just how much JP has left. His production/or lack thereof could be a bi-product of the overall instability with the Raiders. He is a local, but haven't heard his name mentioned in Redskin circles. Being a FA I'm sure his name has been brought up at some point.

dcweldon 02-14-2008 05:39 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[quote=scafuri27;422304]Not buying it.. 6'2 220 pound WR with NFL expirience (8 years)??? How did that work out for the Bengals when they took Michael Westbrook (6'3 220 lbs) in 2002?..

Look at these stats after 8 years
Porter--284 catches 3900 yards 30 tds

Westbrook--285 catches 4300 yards 26 tds... Porter IMO wouldnt even be a band-aid at this point.. we should draft or try for #85.

Porter=Westbrook... and that aint good![/quote]

Do not compare Mike Westbrook to Joey Porter, there is a huge difference Mike didn't have any class as a person or a player. Comparing stats is one thing, but we have seen guys revive their careers with a location change...aka, Santana Moss

scafuri27 02-14-2008 05:42 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=dcweldon;422319]Do not compare Mike Westbrook to Joey Porter, there is a huge difference Mike didn't have any class as a person or a player. Comparing stats is one thing, but we have seen guys revive their careers with a location change...aka, Santana Moss[/QUOTE]


I didnt say their character.. i compared their size, and stats..and We didnt get Santana Moss at 30 years old right??

dcweldon 02-14-2008 06:10 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
I'm not saying we got him at 30, but his career was looking like it was going to end due to injuries and lack luster performance.

I didn't say you were talking character, I am talking character when it comes to Westbrook, that was my point as to why there is a difference between them.

jdlea 02-14-2008 06:17 PM

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I guess I like the idea simply because he's a big guy, but he's not a very good receiver. He looked great back when he was a #3 behind Rice and Brown and he hasn't shown me much since that time. I'm not sure I'm in favor of bringing him in, he's not a significant upgrade over anyone we have on our roster (I mean starting). I guess he could move Randle El into the slot, but then Randle El would be starting again by week 6 when Santana gets hurt.

I think this team really needs to get an elite receiver, be it through the draft or whatever. I do agree that giving up a #1 for Chad is too much, but there has to be a cheaper route. If not, I'd rather spend the 2nd round pick on a wide out.

Dirtbag59 02-14-2008 06:21 PM

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I say that Javon Walker is a better option if he becomes available, though the injury bug concerns me. However I think that he can give us one or two good years as well as take the chance to use the draft to acquire young talent. Porter has never gotten over a 1,000 yards in a season, though Randy Moss could barely get a 1,000 yard season playing for the Raiders so I wouldn't be oppopsed to bringing him in either.

In my opinion Porter is the more solid choice but Walker has a higher upside and the potential to be the type of elite WR that DS is trying to bring to Redskin Park. Its also worth noting that both have experience in the WCO.

MTK 02-14-2008 07:13 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;422311][B]West Coast Brandon Lloyd[/B]

Seriously though, he's got the talent but will his attitude do a 180 outside of Oakland?[/quote]

Perfect description of him.

For those afraid of Chad Johnson's antics, Porter is a true cancer.

Dirtbag59 02-14-2008 07:18 PM

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Have any of you guys heard about the Skins unloading Lloyd and ARE this offseason?
[IMG]http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/mugs/65x90/3590.jpg[/IMG] [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5948"][COLOR=#000000][B]Antwaan Randle El[/B][/COLOR][/URL], [B]Washington Redskins Wide receiver [/B]

[B]Reasoning:[/B] Randle El had a career-high 51 receptions last season, but the Redskins need a big receiver as they switch to the West Coast offense, and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5463"][COLOR=#000000]Santana Moss[/COLOR][/URL] isn't going anywhere. There already has been talk of them trading for Johnson, and Randle El is taking up a good chunk of the salary cap.

MTK 02-14-2008 07:21 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;422352]Have any of you guys heard about the Skins unloading Lloyd and ARE this offseason?
[IMG]http://assets.espn.go.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/mugs/65x90/3590.jpg[/IMG] [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5948"][COLOR=#000000][B]Antwaan Randle El[/B][/COLOR][/URL], [B]Washington Redskins Wide receiver [/B]

[B]Reasoning:[/B] Randle El had a career-high 51 receptions last season, but the Redskins need a big receiver as they switch to the West Coast offense, and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5463"][COLOR=#000000]Santana Moss[/COLOR][/URL] isn't going anywhere. There already has been talk of them trading for Johnson, and Randle El is taking up a good chunk of the salary cap.[/quote]

I don't see it happening. His cap hit would be about $7M. We need that room to cut Lloyd.

skinsguy 02-14-2008 07:43 PM

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;422353]I don't see it happening. His cap hit would be about $7M. We need that room to cut Lloyd.[/QUOTE]

I don't see that happening either. Plus, ARE contributed very positively for us this past season. Lloyd, on the other hand, needs to be shipped out as soon as possible.

Bozzy 02-14-2008 07:48 PM

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we have WRs. Jason Campbell needs TIME for them to get open. We need an OL!!!!

celts32 02-14-2008 09:22 PM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
The Redskins need a #1 WR...I don't see Porter as any better then what we already have. He's okay for depth but he doesn't solve the need. I think Roy Williams from Detroit is the player they need if he becomes available.

4mrusmc 02-15-2008 08:03 AM

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Personally, I'd rather be talking about the possibility of us getting Larry Fitzgerald (sp?). I think he is a better upgrade at wide-out then all of the above mentioned.

Drift Reality 02-15-2008 08:17 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
I'm surprised we're talking about a guy who was a bad seed on [B]the Raiders[/B]!

If this guy was considered a disease on the most disease-infested team in the league (with an owner who the Boy looks up to) then why would anyone think it is a good idea to bring him in here?

We might as well re-sign Lloyd to an extended contract.

cpayne5 02-15-2008 08:22 AM

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[QUOTE=4mrusmc;422473]Personally, I'd rather be talking about the possibility of us getting Larry Fitzgerald (sp?). I think he is a better upgrade at wide-out then all of the above mentioned.[/QUOTE]

Of all the WRs discussed so far, Fitzgerald is far and away the one I prefer. I don't like Chad Johnson's personality (sorry, Daseal), Jerry Porter's age and lack of production, and Javon Walker's injuries and malcontent. Roy Williams would be a close #2 to Fitzgerald.

I'd much rather overpay for Fitzgerald than any of the others. He is a big-time receiver who would complement Santana Moss very well, and would allow ARE to slide to the slot, where he could be deadly.

Cooley1 02-15-2008 08:39 AM

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Is Fitzgerald going to be available, and why in the hell would the Cardinals let him go or trade him???

cpayne5 02-15-2008 09:06 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=Cooley1;422480]Is Fitzgerald going to be available, and why in the hell would the Cardinals let him go or trade him???[/QUOTE]

There have been rumors off and on that have indicated that the Cardinals may not be able to afford him, or that they just don't want to pay him.

4mrusmc 02-15-2008 09:19 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;422483]There have been rumors off and on that have indicated that the Cardinals may not be able to afford him, or that they just don't want to pay him.[/quote]
....And because they are the Cardinals.

Ruhskins 02-15-2008 09:21 AM

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[QUOTE=cpayne5;422483]There have been rumors off and on that have indicated that the Cardinals may not be able to afford him, or that they just don't want to pay him.[/QUOTE]

It would be great if the Cardinals would cut him, because if we get LF we'd get a #1 receiver without having to give up our draft picks. I really think Snyder/Cerrato should keep an eye on this situation and jump on Fitzgerald if they get the chance. They should stop with this Johnson business, otherwise the Bengals are going to end up picking the Skins clean with a trade.

SmootSmack 02-15-2008 10:21 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=cpayne5;422479]Of all the WRs discussed so far, Fitzgerald is far and away the one I prefer. I don't like Chad Johnson's personality (sorry, Daseal), Jerry Porter's age and lack of production, and Javon Walker's injuries and malcontent. Roy Williams would be a close #2 to Fitzgerald.

I'd much rather overpay for Fitzgerald than any of the others. He is a big-time receiver who would complement Santana Moss very well, and would allow ARE to slide to the slot, where he could be deadly.[/QUOTE]

How much are you willing to pay though? He's due something like $18 million this year. Who knows how much less, if any, he'd be willing to accept.

Campbell17 02-15-2008 10:31 AM

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Jerry Porter has never really impressed me a lot I dont want him. No name have i seen yet that is even close to Chad Johnson.

cpayne5 02-15-2008 10:38 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;422509]How much are you willing to pay though? He's due something like $18 million this year. Who knows how much less, if any, he'd be willing to accept.[/QUOTE]

Restructure his contract like they everyone else.

2BIG2BSKINNY 02-15-2008 10:39 AM

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[quote=celts32;422382]The Redskins need a #1 WR...I don't see Porter as any better then what we already have. He's okay for depth but he doesn't solve the need. I think Roy Williams from Detroit is the player they need if he becomes available.[/quote]

Now your talking!
great hands and size!
Give me Williams over Ocho Cinco, in the long run ould cost us a little less!

Fitzgerald is also the player to go after if available!

Campbell17 02-15-2008 10:39 AM

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[quote=cpayne5;422521]Restructure his contract like they everyone else.[/quote]
If we were gonna pay that much, we have to be sure to get results from the player.

skinsfan69 02-15-2008 10:39 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[quote=SmootSmack;422311]West Coast Brandon Lloyd

Seriously though, he's got the talent but will his attitude do a 180 outside of Oakland?[/quote]

I was going to say the same damn thing. We've already got an overpriced underproducing wr. You've got me on the Devin Thomas bandwagon. But he's a Jr. Is he coming out?

cpayne5 02-15-2008 10:44 AM

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[QUOTE=Campbell17;422525]If we were gonna pay that much, we have to be sure to get results from the player.[/QUOTE]

I think this would be one of the more sure bets the Skins could make, IMO. This is not Brandon Lloyd we're talking about here. This is a guy who can legitimately catch 90 balls and score 10 TDs a year for the next 6-8 years. I don't mind overpaying for that.

SmootSmack 02-15-2008 10:52 AM

Re: Jerry Porter? Better, cheaper, option at WR...
 
[QUOTE=skinsfan69;422526]I was going to say the same damn thing. We've already got an overpriced underproducing wr. You've got me on the Devin Thomas bandwagon. But he's a Jr. Is he coming out?[/QUOTE]

Yes, he is skipping his senior year. I'm not even on the Devin Thomas bandwagon though. I mean I think he could be a good choice, but I was just mentioning him as a top possibility if you wanted to get an impact receiver in the 2nd round.

I'd personally prefer to see them pick up a 4th round pick though, so maybe that means trading down in the 2nd round and picking up a 4th rounder.


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