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SkinsFanSince91 02-15-2008 09:31 PM

(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)
 
I didnt see a thread for this specific topic, but redirect it if is please.

Given our [SIZE="4"][B][I]CURRENT[/I][/B][/SIZE] roster who would you draft, or what would you do in the 1st and 2nd rounds with the 21st and 52nd overall pick if you were the Redskins director of Player Personnel, coach, or owner (whoever is calling the shots come draft day).

Mind you all of your picks may change over the course of the selection & evaluation process, so it is OK to alter your projections after the combine and pro days.

Free agency is not a factor in this thread yet, so please go off of draft picks only. If you have accounts at scouting places, please share your intel. I have and insider account with ESPN, so message me if you wanna see someone's scouting report from there. Also, if you say someone may fall or a team may reach for a pick prior to the Redskins pick, try to give a reason for why a team would pass or reach.

I plan to go down the rounds with projections if this becomes popular, so I hope you all enjoy this one.

SmootSmack 02-15-2008 09:39 PM

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It's your thread so it's your call but I think maybe we should add the caveat that you can't trade the pick. Just to make it simpler. So you have the #21 pick you have to select someone there, who do you take?

Again, your call

EternalEnigma21 02-15-2008 09:50 PM

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With the 21st pick in the 2008 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select....



Jamaal Charles.

SkinsFanSince91 02-15-2008 09:53 PM

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Rather than postulate as to who will reach and fall, right now I will just say who I think we should take at 21st overall.

Since the combine hasn't happened yet I can't say who I ultimately would want to pick, yet here are my three choices.

1) Dominique Rodgers_Cromartie - Possibly A better version than San Diego's Antonio Cromartie, who is DRC's cousin. He has similar atributes as well, but I rate him higher because DRC enters the draft without an extensive injury history unlike AC when he entered.

We are the shakiest at the CB position. Rogers won't be ready for the season, Shawn Springs is getting up there in age(still he is our best CB), Smoot is cool, the reserves are serviceable, and the NFC East WR's will only get meaner after the draft and free agency. Furthermore, coverage is at a premium now that the NFL has evolved into more of a passing league (largely due to the enforcing of the illegal contact rule.

Next year if/when we trade/cut Springs, we will hopefully have a healthier Rodgers, fresh Smoot, and an up and coming DRC.

2) Calais Campbell - His 6'8 280lb frame is an intimidating thing to see. He can come right is and stop the run and rush the passer. He could even be used as a DT in 3rd down passing sub-packages with Chris Wilson, Marcus Washington, or another DE acquisition via the draft or free agency.


3) Quentin Groves - Pass rush specialist from the SEC where he flat out dominated opposing tackles with his speed and quickness. He would definitely be a great force off the edge for us, and as a bonus he can play OLB for us is Rocky develop a nagging knee problem.

We should solidify the defense in the first round. Wide outs are tempting, but hardly yield great results in the first round. Plus, this year's WR class is deep, and we can find talent in later rounds.

SkinsFanSince91 02-15-2008 09:56 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;422758]It's your thread so it's your call but I think maybe we should add the caveat that you can't trade the pick. Just to make it simpler. So you have the #21 pick you have to select someone there, who do you take?

Again, your call[/QUOTE]

That would make it easier. I was just leaving it open for after the combine.

You guys heard the man. No trades - at least until further notice and off-season progression.

SkinsFanSince91 02-15-2008 09:58 PM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
[QUOTE=canthetuna;422762]With the 21st pick in the 2008 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select....



Jamaal Charles.[/QUOTE]

Why Jamaal Charles in the 1st round?

theJBexperience 02-15-2008 09:58 PM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
With the 21st pick in the 2008 NFL draft the Washington Redskins have selected....



Calais Campbell from the University of Miami

JoeRedskin 02-15-2008 09:59 PM

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Calais Campbell - If he falls. If not, Talib.

EternalEnigma21 02-15-2008 10:01 PM

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;422766]Why Jamaal Charles in the 1st round?[/quote]


he's the next clinton portis. Clinton is my fav. player in the league, but I really like charles. If I'm a GM I take the best available player and I think he's a steal in the late first.

Calais Campbell is a good one as well, but I'm in love with charles... what can I say...

SkinsFanSince91 02-15-2008 10:08 PM

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;422763]We should solidify the defense in the first round. Wide outs are tempting, but hardly yield great results in the first round. [B][I][SIZE="4"]Plus, this year's WR class is deep, and we can find talent in later rounds.[/SIZE][/I][/B][/QUOTE]

Prime examples are Devin Thomas, Jordy Nelson, and Adarius Bowman. They are all big, quick, aggressive, and play-making wide outs that can develop into the " #1" WR.

Especially Devin Thomas. Here is what ESPN's Scouts Inc. had to say about in their report. Pay attention to the last sentence.

[SIZE="3"]Devin Thomas
WR | (6'2", 217, 4.51) | MICHIGAN STATE

Scouts Grade: 89

Strengths: Possesses adequate-to-good height with a sturdy build for a wide receiver. Very smooth and fluid. Displays outstanding hands. Can consistently catch over his head. Strong hands to pluck in traffic. Can snatch the ball on the run with very little wasted motion. Is a treat after the catch. Does not possess elite initial burst but he does display a second gear to run away from defenders once he gets going (see: 2nd quarter vs. Wisconsin). He is a silky-smooth runner with excellent vision and body control. Sees the entire field and shows the change-of-direction ability to make sharp cuts without losing speed. Is strong and will drag some defenders for extra yards after the catch. Was effective in the times we saw him take handoffs in the backfield and might have a future as a kick return man in the NFL. Has bulk and strength to sustain blocks when he?s in position. Also flashes a mean streak.

Weaknesses: More dangerous after the catch than he is as a vertical route runner. Lacks ideal experience at the highest collegiate level. Still needs polishing as a route-runner. Rounds off many of his routes. Not crisp enough to consistently separate from tight man-to-man coverage. Needs to improve his array of release moves versus press coverage at the line of scrimmage. Takes a bit too long to reach top speed. Doesn?t always sell routes on play-action runs. Can sustain his blocks once locked on but takes some poor angles and doesn't always get in good position. Effort as a blocker is inconsistent.

Overall: After proving his explosiveness and versatility by averaging 105.5 all-purpose yards at Coffeyville CC in 2005, Thomas enrolled at Michigan State. He played 10 games in his first season in East Lansing, but finished with just six receptions, 90 receiving yards and one touchdown. He broke out as a junior last season, playing in all 13 games and delivering 79 catches, eight TDs and a Big Ten-best 1,260 receiving yards for a Spartans offense that relied heavily on the run. He added 177 rushing yards on 27 carries and starred as a return man, averaging 29.1 on 39 kickoff returns. Compared to most prospects, there?s very little information to go off of when evaluating Thomas. He only played one year at the FBS level, and as an underclassman entry he was not able to compete in a post-season all-star game. His inexperience and lack of exposure naturally creates some doubt. However, the more film we study of Thomas the more impressed we are with his overall physical tools. He possesses the size, athleticism and hands of a future starter in the NFL, which is why we graded Thomas out in the second round. [B][I][U]He will fit best in a West Coast system, where his run-after-catch ability will be maximized.
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SmootSmack 02-15-2008 10:37 PM

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Yup, that's why I brought Devin Thomas up the other day in the first place

Hail to the Redskins 02-15-2008 10:41 PM

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Limas Sweed.

Big C 02-15-2008 11:02 PM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
aquib talib. im shying away from a WR, generally rookie WR's dont have huge impacts. GENERALLY. if we want a number 1 receiver i dont think the draft is the way to go here, atleast not with a first rounder. u can grab good receivers later on

CPAlltheWay012 02-15-2008 11:06 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;422769]Calais Campbell - If he falls. If not, Talib.[/QUOTE]

yup that's how I see it

EternalEnigma21 02-15-2008 11:10 PM

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I'm not really high on Sweed. I'm a TX fan, but I think Early Doucet is better. Mario Urittia (sp?) from louisville is around 6'6" and runs close to a 4.4 (high) forty, so he'd be a pretty decent prospect. I know he's had attitude problems, though. I think that's going to push him into the second or third round, but he's got all the physical gifts to make a great vertical threat...

I also think that we could pick up Darius Raynaud in a later round. He's not really all that high up and he's a great slot receiver. Also he was a returner, and wasn't bad at that either...

SmootSmack 02-16-2008 12:17 AM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
I liked the Talib bandwagon better when I was the only person on it here.

So I will allow others to drive it now and make a push for-no, not Antoine Cason (though I do like him)-Reggie Smith out of Oklahoma

Smith played both strong safety and cornerback in college. I believe he's projected as a CB in the NFL but I think he's got the versatility to do both in the pros.

So as of February 16th, I'll say with the 21st pick the Redskins select Reggie Smith

skinsfan_nn 02-16-2008 01:04 AM

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First choice would be best player available with that said at the 21st spot in the 1st round (if we keep the pick), Phillip Merling DE, we need another speed rushing end to compliment AC and bring a dual threat to the opposing QB. Second choice would be Talib, we need to address the corner position this might be the perfect time with CR not ready to go at the start of the season and Springs old and running out of time in DC and his status still seems uncertain with team. (Yea, I know the team says they want to keep him, but what else would they say, could be trade time)

Finally, if both those guys are already picked. I would still go with best available, but maybe Calais Campbell DE or Malcolm Kelly WR.

jamf 02-16-2008 01:12 AM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
My Pick: Sam Baker Tackle from USC. We need a good backup or a replacement for Jansen.

They will have two game against Javon Kearse, Strahan and Demarcus Ware. We need people who can hold their own.

What I think is going to happen:
Desean Jackson is going to slide to the 21st pick and DS is going to draft him.
Snyder loves players that sell jerseys. Jackson is an exciting player and will have one of the top 3 most popular rookie jerseys.

He's going to drop on most draft boards because he is going to show up to the combine weighing 160LBS and teams are going to compare him to Ted Ginn Jr and his performance as a rookie.
Also, Teams are going to be afraid that he won't be able to get off the line or go over the middle.

With the 21st pick, The redskins select Desean Jackson.

GMScud 02-16-2008 01:26 AM

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Malcolm Kelly if he's there, Limas Sweed or Aqib Talib if not. We need a big time CB and/or WR, and OL depth.

skinzaholic73 02-16-2008 03:35 AM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
my pick depending on who's available.
1.D.Rodgers-Cromartie
2.Aquib Taliq
3.Tracy Porter
4.Antoine Cason

*defintiely should pick CB 1st rd. There will be a few Excellent DE available for us in rd.2 that wouldn't really be worth that 1st pick EX.Lawrence Jackson.I am really starting to like Tracy Porter now but ultimately my favorite pick I think would be Aquib Taliq.DMC is Awesome I just don't think he'll be there at #21.

schndr_tdd 02-16-2008 08:02 AM

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I would consider tradind pick to get more.Washington done a great job at drafting quality guys last year.Except for Palmer,but they took a gamble late.

sandtrapjack 02-16-2008 08:34 AM

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"With the 21st pick in the 2008 NFL Draft, The Washington Redskins select
Malcolm Kelly, WR Oklahoma".

The Redskins need a receiver with size to compliment Santana Moss and Antwaan Randle El and at [b]6-4 and 219 lbs,[/b] Malcolm Kelly certainly fits that bill. This could just as easily be a guy like Calais Campbell too.

Skins4Life101 02-16-2008 09:56 AM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
*Draft pending on the following FA acquisitions...
A. Odom DE (Univ Alabama) Tenn Titans
Elton Brown OT (UVA) Arizona Cardinals

Rnd 1

Thomas DeCoud (Cal - S).
I think Doughty is some hot garbage. And we compete in the NFC EAST...

Rnd 2

Chis Williams (OT - Vandy) or Sam Baker (OT - USC)
I'm tired of losing either Samuels or Jansen for the whole year (past 3 years). We need a pedigree O-Lineman...

Rnd 3

Jordy Nelson (WR - KSU)
Assuming we dont get Berrian or Ocho Cinco... And we actually HAVE this pick. I also say if we get Nelson, trade Randle El and let Mix and Nelson round out the top 3 receivers... He also TORCHED Auburn AND #1 CB Talib.

Rnd 5

Chevis Jackson (DB - LSU) * If taken Simeon Castille (DB - Alabama)
Both big pedigree CBs. SEC. Nuff said.

Rnd 6

Dennis Dixon (QB - Oregon)
If he's still on the board... or Xavier Lee (QB - FSU)

Rnd 7

Kendall Langford (DE/DT - Hampton)
Raw talent. And if he's here.

sandtrapjack 02-16-2008 10:30 AM

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[quote=Skins4Life101;422848][B]*Draft pending on the following FA acquisitions...[/B]
[/quote]

That type of thinking is a little backwards and a reason the Redskins are either over the cap every year or have very few draft picks.

First, needs are established by position.
Then, see if those needs can be addressed in the DRAFT FIRST.

If you need a big possession WR and the draft is deep in that position, draft a guy. Stay away from trades and high price free agents that wreck the cap. It is cheaper to sign rookies than FA's. Plus you retain draft compensation rights after the third season. And you don't have to mortgage your future in his third year, the tender amounts are pre-set by the league so no negotiating is involved. It is cheaper and cap friendly.

If needs cannot be addressed in the draft then you look at Free Agency.

If not available in Free Agency, then look to trade.

Why do you think they hold the scouting combine BEFORE the free agency signing period begins?


P.S. I don't think Jordy Nelson drops to the 3rd round, he'll go in the second.

backrow 02-16-2008 10:57 AM

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[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;422848]*Draft pending on the following FA acquisitions...
A. Odom DE (Univ Alabama) Tenn Titans
Elton Brown OT (UVA) Arizona Cardinals

Rnd 1

Thomas DeCoud (Cal - S).
I think Doughty is some hot garbage. And we compete in the NFC EAST...

Rnd 2

Chis Williams (OT - Vandy) or Sam Baker (OT - USC)
I'm tired of losing either Samuels or Jansen for the whole year (past 3 years). We need a pedigree O-Lineman...

Rnd 3

Jordy Nelson (WR - KSU)
Assuming we dont get Berrian or Ocho Cinco... And we actually HAVE this pick. I also say if we get Nelson, trade Randle El and let Mix and Nelson round out the top 3 receivers... He also TORCHED Auburn AND #1 CB Talib.

Rnd 5

Chevis Jackson (DB - LSU) * If taken Simeon Castille (DB - Alabama)
Both big pedigree CBs. SEC. Nuff said.

Rnd 6

Dennis Dixon (QB - Oregon)
If he's still on the board... or Xavier Lee (QB - FSU)

Rnd 7

Kendall Langford (DE/DT - Hampton)
Raw talent. And if he's here.[/QUOTE]


This is only your 4th post, and already you impress with a full draft card!

Major props!


I've preferred a DE/DT in the 1st round for the past eleven years. I was almost ready to change up to Talib after viewing the practices for the N/S College Senior Bowl.

I'll stick with the BPA at DE, but LDS will probably not look at my preference (again!).

The 184 Mock Drafts in HailRedskins.com list C. Campbell in quite a few, but I don't know much about any player until post-combine, and just prior to NFL Draft day. Amazingly, the Washpost can call it 75-85% accurate one day before the 1st round.

So, C. Campbell is my best guess.

SkinsFanSince91 02-16-2008 11:25 AM

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[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;422848]*Draft pending on the following FA acquisitions...
A. Odom DE (Univ Alabama) Tenn Titans
Elton Brown OT (UVA) Arizona Cardinals

Rnd 1

Thomas DeCoud (Cal - S).
I think Doughty is some hot garbage. And we compete in the NFC EAST...

[/QUOTE]

I don't know about this 1st rounder son. The only Safety I would consider at #21 is Kenny Phillips from U of Miami, and I doubt he falls to us.

That being said, I think our first pick does need to be in the defensive backfield ( e.g. - Cornerback).

SkinsFanSince91 02-16-2008 11:34 AM

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[QUOTE=Skins4Life101;422848]
Rnd 3

Jordy Nelson (WR - KSU)
Assuming we dont get Berrian or Ocho Cinco... And we actually HAVE this pick. I also say if we get Nelson, trade Randle El and let Mix and Nelson round out the top 3 receivers... He also TORCHED Auburn AND #1 CB Talib.

[/QUOTE]

Jordy Nelson is the sleeper of all sleepers in this draft!!!

HE has the size, quickness, toughness, hands, and break away ability that we would look for at the WR position.

Sorry, to all of the TAlib Fans, but here is a clip of Talib getting baked.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo]YouTube - Jordy Nelson destroys Aqib Talib[/url]

Skins4Life is right, he may not make it past the 2nd round, so I think we would have to choose between Jordy Nelson and Devin Thomas, which is not an easy choice.

SmootSmack 02-16-2008 11:43 AM

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;422876]Jordy Nelson is the sleeper of all sleepers in this draft!!!

HE has the size, quickness, toughness, hands, and break away ability that we would look for at the WR position.

Sorry, to all of the TAlib Fans, but here is a clip of Talib getting baked.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek0ANQ8bRfo]YouTube - Jordy Nelson destroys Aqib Talib[/url]

Skins4Life is right, he may not make it past the 2nd round, so I think we would have to choose between Jordy Nelson and Devin Thomas, which is not an easy choice.[/QUOTE]

What's the point of the video clip? So he's not perfect, so what? I'm sure Jordy Nelson has dropped a pass before.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out if you are saying Talib is no good, and basing it on this clip

SkinsFanSince91 02-16-2008 11:51 AM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;422877]What's the point of the video clip? So he's not perfect, so what? I'm sure Jordy Nelson has dropped a pass before.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out if you are saying Talib is no good, and basing it on this clip[/QUOTE]

Talib is good. Im not denying that, but I dont think he is worth 1st round consideration. IMO, only Mike Walker, Leodis McKelvin, and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are the only CB's worth a look at for us at #21 overall.

And, yes, Jordy Nelson has dropped as pass before, but I would think that for someone projected a first round pick, that Talib wouldnt have looked that bad against someone who is project in the 2nd-3rd rounds.

Against Talib and Kansas, Jordy Nelson had 10 catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown of 68 yards that you saw in the clip. If he get cooked like that by a college player, then my only question is what is gonna happen against TO, Kevin Curtis, and PLax? My guess, is the same thing just a little more time in the oven when Talib gets baked...lol

GMScud 02-16-2008 12:28 PM

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;422878]Talib is good. Im not denying that, but I dont think he is worth 1st round consideration. IMO, only Mike Walker, Leodis McKelvin, and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are the only CB's worth a look at for us at #21 overall.

And, yes, Jordy Nelson has dropped as pass before, but I would think that for someone projected a first round pick, that Talib wouldnt have looked that bad against someone who is project in the 2nd-3rd rounds.

Against Talib and Kansas, Jordy Nelson had 10 catches, 137 yards, and a touchdown of 68 yards that you saw in the clip. If he get cooked like that by a college player, then my only question is what is gonna happen against TO, Kevin Curtis, and PLax? My guess, is the same thing just a little more time in the oven when Talib gets baked...lol[/quote]

Todd McShay said if Talib has a good combine he'll be a top 10 pick. Everyone has a bad game every now and then. Overall body of work, Talib is a 1st rounder no doubt. I haven't seen a mock draft that doesn't have him in the top 32.

81forHOF 02-16-2008 12:42 PM

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I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.

[url=http://www.nfl.com]NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League[/url]

It is the vid titled Long On Talent where Maylock breaks down the top OL prospects.

GMScud 02-16-2008 12:46 PM

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[quote=81forHOF;422887]I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.[/quote]

Albert is a monster. 6-7 310- he's like Ogden. I personally think though that we need to go CB or WR in the first round and fill in the Oline with later picks.

81forHOF 02-16-2008 12:49 PM

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[quote=GMScud;422888]Albert is a monster. 6-7 310- he's like Ogden. I personally think though that we need to go CB or WR in the first round and fill in the Oline with later picks.[/quote]

I would normally agree but some guys you just gotta grab.

SkinsFanSince91 02-16-2008 12:51 PM

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[QUOTE=GMScud;422882]Todd McShay said [SIZE="3"][B][I][U]if[/U][/I][/B][/SIZE] Talib has a good combine he'll be a top 10 pick. Everyone has a bad game every now and then. Overall body of work, Talib is a 1st rounder no doubt. I haven't seen a mock draft that doesn't have him in the top 32.[/QUOTE]

If "If's" were "Fifths," we'd all be drunk. Yes, I understand if he has a good combine he can be selected top ten, and that goes for any other prospect rated around the same area as Talib (DRCromartie, Leodis McKelvin, and Phillip Merling).

I haven't seen a draft with him in the top 32 either, but I am not debating whether or not he is good, I am talking about "how" good he is in relationship to where he should be valued as a draft pick. Right now, without the combine, he is "no doubt" a 1st rounder, but having seen his shortcomings exposed by lower rated talent, I believe he will be picked up in the late 1st round .

I think I wouldn't be able to use this example if he was cooked by better receivers like L. Sweed, M. Kelly, and DaSean Jackson (all projected "elite" 1st round talent), because one would expect him to lose a battle to a top ranked receiver. Here, in this case, he got outplayed the entire day by their only serious WR there - Jordy Nelson.

That Guy 02-16-2008 01:13 PM

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I'd be happy with a lot of guys at #21 (DL would be the biggest immediate impact, followed by phillips at safety, but cromartie would still be good for the long term)
cromartie
phillips
DL (harvey, balmer, campbell, etc)
d jackson (only 1st round wr i'd bother with, though i'd rather go FA (CJ, R williams, fitzgerald are all possible)
kieth rivers/dan connor

i'm not really a fan of OL/LB/RBs in the 1st round (outside of franchise LTs), but our 2nd rounder should be an OT or OG unless someone really falls (and some non needs with great value like felix jones or chad henne might be there)

SmootSmack 02-16-2008 01:30 PM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
OK, this thread is now about Day One. So rounds 1-2

PSUskinsfan11 02-16-2008 01:37 PM

Re: (updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Predictions (Rounds 1-2)
 
This would be my best case senerio.

1st round-DE

Phillip Merling DE Clemson 6'5" 280lbs 4.75
2005 Tackles-22 TFL-4 Sacks-2
2006 Tackles-46 TFL-10 Sacks-3
2007 Tackles-78 TFL-17 Sacks-7
This guy is an absolute monster. Besides Chris Long there is not another DE in the draft as complete as Merling. He has a non-stop motor that gets to the QB but is also very tough against the run unlike some of the other DE's being discussed (Harvey,Gholston,Groves). He has been improving every year at Clemson and looks to have big time pro potential. I think he would be a great complement to Carter.

Other option: Calais Campbell- Huge prospect with potential to blow up but also looks like he has some potential to be a bust, I would take my chances though.

2nd round-CB

Tracy Porter CB Indiana 5'11" 185lbs 4.4
2005 Tackles-48 PBU-6 INT-3
2006 Tackles-59 PBU-8 INT-4
2007 Tackles-83 PBU-4 INT-6
With the concern of Rogers health and Springs age CB needs to be addressed early. Porter is a tough man to man cover corner that locked WR's down all year in the Big 10. He followed his season up with a stellar Senior Bowl. It is estimated he runs a 4.4 but look for him to blaze the competition at the combine with a sub 4.4. The great thing about Porter is he is ready to play now and could be a major problem as a punt or kick returner, especially if Rock leaves. Think of Porter as this years Richard Marshall....

Other option: Antoine Cason- I think he will be gone by this point but I don't look for him to run a blazing 40 which may drop him a bit. Still a ballhawking CB with great return ability. Has all the intangibles you look for in a CB.

3rd Round-WR or O-line

Adrian Arrington WR Michigan 6'3" 195lbs 4.55
2006 544yrds 8TDs
2007 882yrds 8TDs
Averaged over 13 yards per catch the past two years. Good size and great hands. Potential to be the great red zone/possession WR we need. May be able to pick him up later in the draft depending on how he runs at the combine. Potential to be a big time steal.

Other option:
Devin Thomas WR Michigan St- I would definatly take Thomas over Arrington but he will most likely be gone by this spot. Thomas is a major threat in the return game and at 6'2" 215 plays MUCH bigger, very fast and strong.

Keenan Burton WR Kentucky- Very productive WR with good size and great speed. May be able to help in the kick return game. 43.5 inch vert would make him a great asset in the red zone

If we go O-Line.......
Anthony Collins OT Kansas- Looks like a young poor man's Samuels. Good size at 6'5" 310. Big time sleeper in this draft. Great in pass protection. Outland finalist this year as a JR. Huge potential that could make things a little more comfortable if Jansen or Samuels would go down. Also grooms a starter for the future.

Other option:
Oniel Cousins OT/OG UTEP- Versitility makes Cousins a good fit. Could bulk up at 6'4" 305lbs but very athletic and could be a great pulling guard because of his quickness.

2nd Day Possibilities

Mario Urrutia WR Louisville- Huge WR 6'6" that could be a late round steal if can be motivated.

Kellen Davis TE Michigan St- Very athletic and good blocker.

Barry Richardson OT Clemson- Monster (6'7" 330), being slept on because of inconsistency but has great ability.

Heath Benedict OT/OG Newberry- Versitle, great run blocker

Roy Schuening OG Oregon St.-4 year starter, good size (6'4" 317), plays smart

Nick Watkins OLB Clemson- very productive

Wesley Woodyard OLB Kentucky- undersized but all over the field

J Leman ILB Illinois- non stop player, think Zach Thomas, going to be a huge steal

Trae Williams CB South Florida- over shadowed by Jenkins but a very good CB

Chevis Jackson CB LSU- Not a blazer but could be a good nickle, could be a great safety

Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas St- very productive small school prospect, good size and speed.
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EARTHQUAKE2689 02-16-2008 02:12 PM

Re: (updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Predictions (Rounds 1-2)
 
round 1: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB, TSU
round 2: Chris Ellis DE, Virginia Tech

theJBexperience 02-16-2008 03:14 PM

Re: (updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Predictions (Rounds 1-2)
 
Having selected Calais Campbell in the first round, the Redskins opt to bolster their offense this time around with the selection of Devin Thomas out of Michigan State.

I agree [URL="http://www.redskinswarpath.com/member.php?u=438"]SkinsFanSince91[/URL], he's a stud and a good fit for what we need at the WR position, and I think there's a still a good chance he'll be around at #51. So, I'd wait it out and maybe trade up in the 2nd round if need be.

freddyg12 02-16-2008 03:39 PM

Re: Time To Be A GM: Your 1st Round Pick Is...
 
[quote=81forHOF;422887]I HAVE GOT THE PICK FOR US!!

The best value at #21 is Brandon Albert OG from Virginia. I just looked at some footage on him @ NFL.com and he is a MONSTER. He pulls, finishes, awesome at the 2nd (and 3rd) level, has the size and athletesism to play tackle in a pinch, run blocks like Tre Johnson, pass blocking is solid. You need to check this guy out!!

I say we get Jared Allen if FA and draft this beast in the 1st rnd! Then grab a WR or CB in the 2nd.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com"]NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League[/URL]

It is the vid titled Long On Talent where Maylock breaks down the top OL prospects.[/quote]

I posted the same thing in another thread yesterday. I like Albert a lot & the main reason he'd be worth picking at #21 (if he's there), is that he can play guard or tackle. We need that versatility because in all likelihood at least one of our reserve o linemen will see considerable time this year.

If not Albert, I'm going:
1) c. Campbell or L. Jackson, DE
2) Brandon Flowers, CB, Va. TEch


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