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Bill B 02-20-2008 01:23 PM

What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
Quick question for the cap experts - with the March 2nd due date to get in complaince with the 2008 salary cap fast approaching what happens if a team is not in compliance by that time? For example, lets say if the Skins have not gotten all the contracts reworked by that date what occurs at that point? Forfeiture of draft picks? Fines? Will the team be forced to cut players to get below the cap?

I know that the cap experts on the Warpath say the Skins should have no trouble reworking the contracts and I am not trying to deny this - I just wanted to know if anyone knew the ramifications of not complying with the salary cap from a general curiousity standpoint.

bigm29 02-20-2008 01:27 PM

Re: What happens if Teams are not in complaince by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
i was thinking about that myself. I really dont know, someone on the board will know

GTripp0012 02-20-2008 01:49 PM

Re: What happens if Teams are not in complaince by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
The owner gets fined like crazy. If he continues not to comply, the league can begin to steal our draft picks, but that would be pretty extreme.

If you're the Denver Broncos, nothing happens, but 31 teams in this league don't have that advantage.

hooskins 02-20-2008 01:57 PM

Re: What happens if Teams are not in complaince by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=GTripp0012;424354]The owner gets fined like crazy. If he continues not to comply, the league can begin to steal our draft picks, but that would be pretty extreme.

If you're the Denver Broncos, nothing happens, but 31 teams in this league don't have that advantage.[/quote]

[FONT=&quot]has anyt[/FONT][FONT=&quot]hing like t[/FONT][FONT=&quot]his [/FONT][FONT=&quot]happened in t[/FONT][FONT=&quot]he past before?
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GTripp0012 02-20-2008 02:00 PM

Re: What happens if Teams are not in complaince by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=hooskins;424360][FONT=&quot]has anyt[/FONT][FONT=&quot]hing like t[/FONT][FONT=&quot]his [/FONT][FONT=&quot]happened in t[/FONT][FONT=&quot]he past before?[/FONT]
[/quote]Not in the first case, but Denver's two super bowls came in years where they were (pretty significantly) over the cap. They didn't get penalized for about 8 years, and then Tags finally decided to take away a pair of mid round draft picks from them--and then give them back the only compensatory 3rd rounder that year.

Pretty good price to pay to gain a competitive advantage for a Super Bowl victory.

I should be clear here--being over the cap is NOT cheating. It's not against the rules. There are just loosely defined consequences for doing so. It was the NFL that dropped the ball (or arguably, turned a blind eye) by NOT putting pressure on the Broncos to comply with cap rules back in 1996.

MTK 02-20-2008 02:00 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
Denver has had multiple cap related issues in recent years:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28969-2004Sep17.html]Broncos Penalized Again for Salary Cap Violations (washingtonpost.com)[/url]

Skinny Tee 02-20-2008 02:18 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
It used to be a million dollar every day over the cap fine for the owners.

I don't know if they revised that or not.

hooskins 02-20-2008 02:26 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
That is interesting. So if a team feels like they are young and set for the next couple years, and they just want a couple extra pieces, why not go over the cap? The draft picks and fines would not hurt as much then.

Skins4Life101 02-20-2008 02:27 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
I thought the owner of the team in question has to prostitute his wife to the NFL Brass...

I miss the old days...

Schneed10 02-20-2008 04:04 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
That's a paddlin'.

[IMG]http://www.tederick.com/jasper/images2/06_paddlin_i.jpg[/IMG]

MonkFan4Life 02-20-2008 04:08 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=Schneed10;424399]That's a paddlin'.

[IMG]http://www.tederick.com/jasper/images2/06_paddlin_i.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

Oh my God I just laughed so effin hard ! All I can hear is him saying, "That's a paddlin'" in that deep slow drawling voice. After everything that he said.

Dirtbag59 02-20-2008 04:23 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[B][I]What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the[/I][/B] salary cap?

Then the ban on every banned Warpath member will be lifted, including the lengendary Kidwell. Then we'll have to deal with a flurry of horrible threads and trolls that will leave most of us scared for life.

Paintrain 02-20-2008 04:49 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
The owner is publicly executed.

Bill B 02-20-2008 04:59 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=Skinny Tee;424369]It used to be a million dollar every day over the cap fine for the owners.

I don't know if they revised that or not.[/quote]


If it was just a fine I think Synder could deal with that! As long as it is not picks why not buy some time and pay the fine - Synder could afford it!

SmootSmack 02-20-2008 05:08 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
An interview with Atlanta Falcons Director of Football Administration Brian Xanders

[url=http://dennisahmer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=32]www.dennisahmer.com - ...About the salary cap[/url]

[QUOTE]"By the first day of the new league year (which this year it's March 2) we have to be in compliance," Xanders said. "Our salary cap has to be under $78.7 million. If you're not in compliance by March 2, you have seven days to be."

And if you're not in compliance after those seven days?

"The last contracts that you signed players to automatically become void and those players become free agents until your charges do come under the cap," Xanders replied. "But that's never happened."

"It's different from the NBA where, if you go over, you have to pay a luxury tax," Beadles echoed. "In the NFL, if you're over the salary cap, then they start making contracts void.

"If you don't decide which players you don't want on your roster, the league will."[/QUOTE]

Redskins8588 02-20-2008 06:28 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;424417]An interview with Atlanta Falcons Director of Football Administration Brian Xanders

[url=http://dennisahmer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=32]www.dennisahmer.com - ...About the salary cap[/url][/QUOTE]

How old is that? With the salary cap being $78 million

hooskins 02-20-2008 07:02 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
2/13/2003 based on article.

drew54 02-20-2008 07:47 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
I thought they went to the highest contract that would create the most room to get you under the cap and then began to void those deals. In which case a team would lose a few players and then become under the cap.

Wasn't there a Doomsday thread back before the last NFL Collective Bargaining agreement. We talked Lavar into giving back some money to become a free agent and this helped us prevent this scenario. I don't even know what to search for to find that thing.

Dirtbag59 02-20-2008 07:52 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=Redskins8588;424433]How old is that? With the salary cap being $78 million[/quote]

At the rate the salary cap is growing. Probably last year. The year before that it was 40 million :D

That Guy 02-20-2008 09:39 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
before the cba they talked about taking all your draft picks from you. it hasn't really been tested though.

Bill B 02-20-2008 11:14 PM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;424417]An interview with Atlanta Falcons Director of Football Administration Brian Xanders

[URL="http://dennisahmer.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=32"]www.dennisahmer.com - ...About the salary cap[/URL][/quote]


So basically according to this if the Skins stand pat Chris Cooley's contract would be the first voided with Andre Carter next in line?

Hijinx 02-21-2008 12:09 AM

Re: What happens if teams are not in compliance by March 2 with the salary cap?
 
The 49ers also got hit with loss of draft picks ( a 3rd and 5th) plus 1 mill in fines for breaking cap rules but it wasn't for the march 2 deadline. If I remember right it had something to deferred payment plans that didn't follow the rules. The NFL is supposed to approve all contracts so I don't know how exactly they slipped one though.


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