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Darrell_Green_28 02-23-2008 02:18 PM

Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Didnt see it posted anywheres if so delete this...



[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txcowboysthomas&prov=st&type=lgns]LB Thomas, Cowboys agree to terms - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Luxorreb 02-23-2008 02:50 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Doesn't surprise me. Was hoping he'd goto New England...
He wants to play for a contender and well the Saints aren't exactly that. Pats only offered him vet minimum, so BAM NFC East it is.

Big C 02-23-2008 03:16 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
good signing for them, dude can play as long as hes healthy that is...

GMScud 02-23-2008 03:45 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
He's old and can't stay healthy. He's a concussion waiting to happen. He's had a very nice career and I like the guy, but I don't think this is a big deal. On a side note, they must not be very happy with '06 1st round pick Bobby Carpenter. He was supposed to be a stud, and in two seasons he only has 1 start and 37 total tackles. Parcells doesn't make too many personnel blunders, but he did with Carpenter.

freddyg12 02-23-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=GMScud;425363]He's old and can't stay healthy. He's a concussion waiting to happen. He's had a very nice career and I like the guy, but I don't think this is a big deal. On a side note, they must not be very happy with '06 1st round pick Bobby Carpenter. He was supposed to be a stud, and in two seasons he only has 1 start and 37 total tackles. Parcells doesn't make too many personnel blunders, but he did with Carpenter.[/quote]

carpenter did alright when ellis was out but he's avg. at best. He plays OLB & Z. Thomas plays MLB & I presume will play inside in the boys 3-4. Bradie James is one starting ILB, who is the other? Don't know if he'll start or not.

rypper11 02-23-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
I think he still has a year or two left. He's a good pick up for them.

Luxorreb 02-23-2008 05:02 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Great pickup for them, bad news for us.

Dirtbag59 02-23-2008 05:09 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
To everyone who thinks that Thomas was going to sign for the veteran minimum let this be a lesson to you. Guys don't settle for the veteran minimum as often as you think. I wish I could find a list of guys that have signed for the veteran minimum to show you how few quality guys sign for it every year.

On a side note Thomas deal is potentially worth 11 million dollars.

sandtrapjack 02-23-2008 05:32 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Well I think the signing was done as a favor to Rosenhaus. He just happens to represent Marion Barber as well and they are in contract talks.

In fact I think the whole meeting with Thomas was done as a favor to Rosenhaus.

Gmanc711 02-23-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Does anyone know why Zach Thomas is able to be signed when Free Agency doesnt start for another week? Just wondering.

Stuck in TX 02-23-2008 05:54 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
he'll be injured by week 3 and in and out for the rest of the season, be cut next season, then sign back with the 'Fins in 2009 to officially retire with the team.

Dirtbag59 02-23-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=Gmanc711;425385]Does anyone know why Zach Thomas is able to be signed when Free Agency doesnt start for another week? Just wondering.[/quote]

Apparently if you're a free agent before the start of Free Agency (ie got cut after the season or sat home all year) then you're allowed to sign with a new team. This doesn't include guys who contracts expired so for example Rock Cartwright can't test the market until free agency opens up. That way teams can use their temporary exclusive negotating rights to retain player before the start of Free Agency.

Longtimefan 02-23-2008 06:47 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Thomas has [emphasis on has] been a fine player for a long time, injuries have set him back the last couple years.

He might find sledding a little tough in the NFC east being a 228lb MLB, if it's Dallas's intent to play him at that position. There's a big difference between the NFC east & the AFC east............Good Luck!!

dblanch66 02-23-2008 08:07 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
F. dallas.

Redskin Warrior 02-23-2008 08:40 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[QUOTE=Gmanc711;425385]Does anyone know why Zach Thomas is able to be signed when Free Agency doesnt start for another week? Just wondering.[/QUOTE]

I thought he just agreed to terms

sandtrapjack 02-23-2008 11:26 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=dblanch66;425406]F. dallas.[/quote]

Yeah they suck!



Hey wait a minute!

BrunellMVP? 02-23-2008 11:49 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;425379]Well I think the signing was done as a favor to Rosenhaus. He just happens to represent Marion Barber as well and they are in contract talks.

In fact I think the whole meeting with Thomas was done as a favor to Rosenhaus.[/quote]

a favor to Rosenhaus? why? unless the Boy's were the only place Zach wanted to play, that makes no sense. Its not as if nobody else wanted his services. Rosenhaus wasn't in a position of weakness...why would he need a favor?

Campbell17 02-24-2008 12:25 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Good Pickup, even though we are still gonna win at dallas and at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sandtrapjack 02-24-2008 12:40 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=BrunellMVP?;425446]a favor to Rosenhaus? why? unless the Boy's were the only place Zach wanted to play, that makes no sense. Its not as if nobody else wanted his services. Rosenhaus wasn't in a position of weakness...why would he need a favor?[/quote]

From all indications I ave read, Dallas was not the one who intitiated contact with respect to Thomas.

Thomas has the same agent as a number of players on the team and hence the agent marketed his client.

Due to a long standing relationship with the agent, the Cowboys agreed to talk to Thomas.

And he came at a price that is affordable. Not to mention if he does not make the grade at camp and gets cut, there is zero cap hit.

But on the outside of it all......I smell a trade.

jsarno 02-24-2008 12:59 AM

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;425375]

On a side note Thomas deal is potentially worth 11 million dollars.[/QUOTE]

LOL...holy crap! If that's true, the Cowboys are dumber than I thought. Sure Thomas is still a good LB, but his serious concussion issues are too much to ignore, and no way he will be worth it.

That Guy 02-24-2008 01:10 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
the thomas deal is 3mill max, 1 year

1mill SB, 1mill salary, 1mill incentives based on playing time.

goingdeep 02-24-2008 09:13 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
good for the cowgirl he is to old and to slow!

dmek25 02-24-2008 09:31 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Zach Thomas was a fine middle linebacker. way past his prime. and doesn't Dallas play a 3-4? it seems rather odd that Thomas is on the older side, but the cowboys are one of the youngest teams in the league. strange move

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-24-2008 09:51 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Zach if healthy can be a good fit for the Cowboys (i.e. what Seau does for the Pats) and the reason he was able to sign is because he was cut after the season ended but before free agency started

skinsfan69 02-24-2008 10:16 AM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;425445]Yeah they suck!



Hey wait a minute![/quote]

sandtrapjack i don't understand this signing. thomas is not an inside 3-4 backer. where is he going to play?

sandtrapjack 02-24-2008 11:24 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;425501]sandtrapjack i don't understand this signing. thomas is not an inside 3-4 backer. where is he going to play?[/quote]

Actually, Miami does play quite a bit of the 3-4. Dom Capers was their D-Coord until recently. But they mix it up between the 3-4 and the 4-3 depending on the offense.

But as I understand it, they want to use Zach Thomas on the weakside ILB position, on the same side as DeMarcus Ware. The coaches seem to think that using Thomas this way is very similar to the way that Wade Phillips and Brian Stewart used Donnie Edwards on the same side as Shawn Merriman in San Diego 2 years ago when that defense racked up 60 or so sacks in the season.

But Thomas will have to beat out Akin Ayodele for the starting position. If not, that is really not bad depth at all on that side.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-24-2008 12:17 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;425510]Actually, Miami does play quite a bit of the 3-4. Dom Capers was their D-Coord until recently. But they mix it up between the 3-4 and the 4-3 depending on the offense.

But as I understand it, they want to use Zach Thomas on the weakside ILB position, on the same side as DeMarcus Ware. The coaches seem to think that using Thomas this way is very similar to the way that Wade Phillips and Brian Stewart used Donnie Edwards on the same side as Shawn Merriman in San Diego 2 years ago when that defense racked up 60 or so sacks in the season.

But Thomas will have to beat out Akin Ayodele for the starting position. If not, that is really not bad depth at all on that side.[/quote]


When you do it that way it is a smarter move than people think

jsarno 02-24-2008 03:12 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;425510]Actually, Miami does play quite a bit of the 3-4. Dom Capers was their D-Coord until recently. But they mix it up between the 3-4 and the 4-3 depending on the offense.

But as I understand it, they want to use Zach Thomas on the weakside ILB position, on the same side as DeMarcus Ware. The coaches seem to think that using Thomas this way is very similar to the way that Wade Phillips and Brian Stewart used Donnie Edwards on the same side as Shawn Merriman in San Diego 2 years ago when that defense racked up 60 or so sacks in the season.

But Thomas will have to beat out Akin Ayodele for the starting position. If not, that is really not bad depth at all on that side.[/QUOTE]

Sporting news reported that he will split time with Ayodele to keep both fresh. Not a bad idea depending on the financials.
Speaking of which, does anyone know the actual financials on this deal?

skinsfanzg18 02-24-2008 03:59 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
sweet. im glad we get to see his injured, raggedy, beat up, old ass two times next year.


:)


agree?

MTK 02-24-2008 06:41 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
He's still a good player if he can stay healthy.

soccercycbk 02-25-2008 08:30 PM

Re: Cowboys sign LB Thomas
 
Cowgirls saw how well our Fletcher acquisition went and want a piece of the pie...it's all gone though.


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