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JGisLordOfTheRings 02-29-2008 12:25 PM

Justin Smith
 
He is a UFA, correct? I know there are a million of these type threads going but, I feel this needs to be addressed. The guy is a monster, plays fast and hard and I would love to see him in burgundy and gold.

Any thoughts?

steveo395 02-29-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
We don't have the money

SmootSmack 02-29-2008 12:30 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
You tryin' to impress me? Think you can bribe your way into my good favors by starting a thread about Justin Smith?

I'd love him here, but it's not likely

JGisLordOfTheRings 02-29-2008 12:34 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=SmootSmack;427569][B]You tryin' to impress me? Think you can bribe your way into my good favors by starting a thread about Justin Smith?[/B]

I'd love him here, but it's not likely[/quote]


Hahaha...maybe, maybe. At least this way I know this thread wont be locked unless it gets hijacked. As unlikely as it is, I'm just saying that I would love to see us go out and at least try and get him, that is, if he hasnt already signed with someone before I posted this, which is likely as well.

We just need a good DE and I would give a pinky finger to have him here.

I might go and trade for him in my Madden Franchise just to keep my hopes alive. lol

GMScud 02-29-2008 01:54 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
He's a Miami Dolphin.

dmek25 02-29-2008 02:01 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
smooty, you put him up to this? Smith going to want alot of money. but he is one guy i wouldn't mind seeing here. high energy, and still young

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-29-2008 02:03 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=GMScud;427598]He's a Miami Dolphin.[/quote]


is that official?

GMScud 02-29-2008 02:06 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;427603]is that official?[/quote]

Ha, my bad. I saw it go across the bottom line- it's Justin SMILEY who the Phins signed to a 5 year deal. At first glance it looked like Justin Smith. So no, it's not true. Sorry.

MTK 02-29-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
Probably too pricey for our taste this year. The guy is a baller though.

GMScud 02-29-2008 02:17 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=Mattyk72;427607]Probably too pricey for our taste this year. The guy is a baller though.[/quote]

He's very durable- he's started all 16 games every year since 2002, but is he really that great?? His sack totals the past 4 seasons: 2, 7.5, 6, 8. 2 sacks last year in 16 starts?? Chris Wilson doubled that number last year and didn't start a single game. I don't know if I'd call Justin Smith a "baller."

SmootSmack 02-29-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
Smith is a complete defensive lineman, he's not a one-dimensional pass rushing specialist. That's not a knock on Wilson by any means. Just that Smith can do so many things well.

GMScud 02-29-2008 02:25 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=SmootSmack;427616]Smith is a complete defensive lineman, he's not a one-dimensional pass rushing specialist. That's not a knock on Wilson by any means. Just that Smith can do so many things well.[/quote]

Sorry Smooty, I didn't mean to diss your man-crush. :)
I'm reading the Vikes are actively pursuing both him and Berrian.

SmootSmack 02-29-2008 02:30 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;427617]Sorry Smooty, I didn't mean to diss your man-crush. :)
I'm reading the Vikes are actively pursuing both him and Berrian.[/QUOTE]

Well, if JS doesn't sign with the Redskins...he's dead to me!! :)

Could you imagine the Vikings adding Smith and Madieu Williams. And then possibly trading for Rosenfels and signing Berrian? Not bad.

GMScud 02-29-2008 02:34 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=SmootSmack;427620]Well, if JS doesn't sign with the Redskins...he's dead to me!! :)

Could you imagine the Vikings adding Smith and Madieu Williams. And then possibly trading for Rosenfels and signing Berrian? Not bad.[/quote]

I know! That d-line is already nasty. Unfortunately Udeze has leukemia, so they need another end, and Smith would fit in nicely. If they can add a wideout who can catch and a half decent QB, imagine what Adrian Peterson could do? They played very well in the second half last year and I expect a dog fight between them and GB for that division.

SFREDSKIN 02-29-2008 02:43 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
He's due to come to SF for his first visit. He informed the Vikings the 49ers where first on the list. I read it somewhere, can't remember link.

MTK 02-29-2008 03:27 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=GMScud;427612]He's very durable- he's started all 16 games every year since 2002, but is he really that great?? His sack totals the past 4 seasons: 2, 7.5, 6, 8. 2 sacks last year in 16 starts?? Chris Wilson doubled that number last year and didn't start a single game. I don't know if I'd call Justin Smith a "baller."[/quote]

As SS alludes to he's a very solid all around player. You can't judge him on sacks alone. He'll never be a sack demon, but he plays the run well and plays with a high motor.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace 02-29-2008 03:31 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=GMScud;427612]He's very durable- he's started all 16 games every year since 2002, but is he really that great?? His sack totals the past 4 seasons: 2, 7.5, 6, 8. 2 sacks last year in 16 starts?? Chris Wilson doubled that number last year and didn't start a single game. I don't know if I'd call Justin Smith a "baller."[/quote]

Thats such a misleading statistic...Only coming in the game on 3rd and 16 is a lot different than having to tackle running backs every other down. How many sacks and tackles did the DT next to him have? Or the outside linebacker on his side?

BleedBurgundy 02-29-2008 03:35 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
Not to mention he draws a double team on the majority of snaps. This is one guy I would love to see us go and get.

GMScud 02-29-2008 03:42 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=Mattyk72;427667]As SS alludes to he's a very solid all around player. You can't judge him on sacks alone. He'll never be a sack demon, but he plays the run well and plays with a high motor.[/quote]

I never said the guy wasn't good. I understand he plays the run well and has a great motor, but has often been mentioned on this board as a pass-rush compliment to Andre Carter. I think we'd be better off drafting D-lineman than paying huge $$ for a guy like him. The FA market isn't that great this year. Guys are getting overpaid everywhere- $30M for Jerry Porter? $3M/yr for Cleo Lemon? $33M for Madieu Williams? I'm glad we're not a big player right now.

MTK 02-29-2008 03:46 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
I hear ya I don't want him either with the way these contracts are going again this year.

SkinsFanSince91 02-29-2008 04:01 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
I think if we made him our only real free agent "splash," then that would free us up to do a lot of things in the draft. D-Line could be a priority to be handled in later rounds. In the first we could go CB, WR, or O-Line

SKINSnCANES 02-29-2008 04:19 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=GMScud;427674]I never said the guy wasn't good. I understand he plays the run well and has a great motor, but has often been mentioned on this board as a pass-rush compliment to Andre Carter. I think we'd be better off drafting D-lineman than paying huge $$ for a guy like him. The FA market isn't that great this year. Guys are getting overpaid everywhere- $30M for Jerry Porter? $3M/yr for Cleo Lemon? $33M for Madieu Williams? I'm glad we're not a big player right now.[/quote]

$3 million a year for Todd Collins! ;)

GMScud 02-29-2008 04:23 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;427700]$3 million a year for Todd Collins! ;)[/quote]

Yeah, but only $4M is guaranteed, which is what pretty much everyone expected him to get regardless of where he signed. Plus he's already one of our own. A sound move.

SKINSnCANES 02-29-2008 04:46 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=GMScud;427702]Yeah, but only $4M is guaranteed, which is what pretty much everyone expected him to get regardless of where he signed. Plus he's already one of our own. A sound move.[/quote]

Yea Ive got no problem with him as a backup, he doesnt have the arm strength in my opinion to be a starter, but anyways thats not point, i was just joking about the list of signings thats all.

All we can do is joke, normally we would be watchign four or five press conferences by now...

GMScud 02-29-2008 04:52 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;427711]Yea Ive got no problem with him as a backup, he doesnt have the arm strength in my opinion to be a starter, but anyways thats not point, i was just joking about the list of signings thats all.

[B] All we can do is joke, normally we would be watchign four or five press conferences by now...[/B][/quote]

And chances are if we had any extra $$ this year nothing would have changed and we'd have a few big names already under the belt.

rypper11 02-29-2008 08:09 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
I've said it every post about FA's and I think it deserves saying here. Give me one FA this year and I want Justin Smith. Everything else can be addressed in the draft or June 1 cuts. I want this man more than I wanted April (name excluded to protect the innocent) in Middle School. Just one big dollar guy. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SmootSmack 02-29-2008 08:23 PM

Re: Justin Smith
 
My Justin Smith bandwagon seems to be getting rather crowded...regardless I think by Monday he'll be signed but not to us (Minnesota maybe?), and I'll have to begin a new bandwagon

freddyg12 03-01-2008 09:24 AM

Re: Justin Smith
 
espn radio reported he signed w/the 49ers. So he didn't sign w/us but he did w/the new Skins. The 49ers are definitely trying to sign everybody.

I think it was 6 yr./45mil w/20 guaranteed, but don't quote me on that.

dirthogs311 03-01-2008 09:36 AM

Re: Justin Smith
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3271999]ESPN - 49ers lock up defensive end Smith with 6-year, $45 million deal - NFL[/url]

diehardskin2982 03-01-2008 09:57 AM

Re: Justin Smith
 
good i didn't want him to come here at all

MTK 03-01-2008 10:48 AM

Re: Justin Smith
 
locking this up since he's off the market

SmootSmack 03-01-2008 11:41 AM

Re: Justin Smith
 
This is a sad day for SmootSmack and RedskinsWarpath.com people. A sad, sad day indeed.

The Justin Smith Bandwagon has spun its last wheels


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