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Skins4Eva 03-02-2008 06:29 PM

Redskins should do NOTHING
 
Here are the offseason keys to the redskins success next season:

1. Do absolutely nothing in free agency (ONLY Depth Signings)
2. Keep and do not trade a sinlge draft pick. Have a complete draft!
3. The development of Jason Campbell
4. Develop new conditioning program because whatever we have now sucks.
5. The development of Jason Campbell

Our entire season and the immediate future rests upon our ability to resist jumping into the free agent market and keeping all of our draft picks. Most important to this season and many more to come is not a WR, DE, CB, S, DT, or the name of our coach. Wake up people; it is Jason Campbell. We can keep the exact same roster we have now and if Jason Campbell puts all his talents together then you are looking at the next "big thing." He is the key to our future. He should be picking Zorn's brains this off-season and learning whatever he can. With Campbell's mobility, arm strength, and pocket presence...he has all the tools to be one of the most dangerous players in the game.

2BIG2BSKINNY 03-02-2008 06:35 PM

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I can stand behind your suggestions... The current free agents are very overpriced (maybe helped by our not so distant spending frenzy) and the new choaches need to put there stamp on the type of players they will tie thier future too.

NYCskinfan82 03-02-2008 06:36 PM

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JC is definitely the key, i just hope they will use is mobility something the great Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders never wanted to use pocket passer, if he has legs let him use them. We should keep all our picks as long as we don't use the 1st on a WR or CB no WR can step in and be an immediate help & we need to pick something other than secondary help for a change DL help would be nice.

GTripp0012 03-02-2008 06:37 PM

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3 weeks from now, we should be able to jump into the market without having to spend, spend, spend. We could grab LB depth, as well as a CB, S or WR, without having to pay too much.

jsarno 03-02-2008 06:40 PM

Re: Redskins should do NOTHING
 
[QUOTE=Skins4Eva;428304]Here are the offseason keys to the redskins success next season:

1. Do absolutely nothing in free agency (ONLY Depth Signings)
2. Keep and do not trade a sinlge draft pick. Have a complete draft!
3. The development of Jason Campbell
4. Develop new conditioning program because whatever we have now sucks.
5. The development of Jason Campbell

Our entire season and the immediate future rests upon our ability to resist jumping into the free agent market and keeping all of our draft picks. Most important to this season and many more to come is not a WR, DE, CB, S, DT, or the name of our coach. Wake up people; it is Jason Campbell. We can keep the exact same roster we have now and if Jason Campbell puts all his talents together then you are looking at the next "big thing." He is the key to our future. He should be picking Zorn's brains this off-season and learning whatever he can. With Campbell's mobility, arm strength, and pocket presence...he has all the tools to be one of the most dangerous players in the game.[/QUOTE]

I absolutely agree with your post. We need to get younger anyway. I wouldn't even be opposed to trading our #21 pick for multiple 2nd round picks. We never seem to trade for picks anymore, maybe we should start!
All in all though, great post.

DynamiteRave 03-02-2008 06:41 PM

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That seems too painfully simple.

While I agree we shouldn't just toss our draft picks around like we did in the past, many of our players are getting up there in age and we could use some young experienced talent. We'd be stupid to pass up a young player who isn't asking for an insane contract (if there are still any out there) and just go for depth. While the draft is a way to bring in talent, unless they are a high profile pick, I don't see very many of them getting lots of playing time this year (unless there is an injury, trade, etc). Just like we got lucky to have Doughty backing us up, and he had at least a year of ST play and getting to know the defensive playbook. Just throwing a 21 year old draft pick, fresh out of college back there probably would have spelled disaster.

Depth signings - absolutely
Stagnant through FA? - Not quite.

NYCskinfan82 03-02-2008 06:45 PM

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Trading our 1st round picks for more picks excellent idea

81forHOF 03-02-2008 06:56 PM

Re: Redskins should do NOTHING
 
[quote=GTripp0012;428312]3 weeks from now, we should be able to jump into the market without having to spend, spend, spend. We could grab LB depth, as well as a CB, S or WR, without having to pay too much.[/quote]

There might not be anybody left to sign in 3 weeks. I think just waiting out the first few days says enough about not wanting to overspend.

Soup's Uncle 03-02-2008 07:12 PM

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WE do have some spots that are getting old. We gotta bring in some young bucks.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-02-2008 08:11 PM

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Here's my main concern.

While it's refreshing and seemingly intelligent to sit back and watch people spend huge amounts of cash on free agent signings, we're also sitting here watching the rest of the entire LEAGUE get a lot better. Most of the teams who are losing players were the "have nots" anyway and it's not like we'd have to worry about them.

It's the teams like the Eagles and the Saints improving that worries me. Who knows where Javon Walker or Randy Moss end up (maybe Dallas)? This is going to put a HUGE amount of emphasis on the draft AND on making damn sure we are VERY, VERY thorough in the spend-thrift signings we DO make this year.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-02-2008 08:13 PM

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Speaking of WRs though, I REALLY think we should consider signing Caldwell to a deal in the three to four year range. He was clutch last year and aside from that game that EVERYONE seems to remember for the Patriots, has been a pretty good player. Not that he's a cure-all, but GREAT depth that's for sure.

SmootSmack 03-02-2008 08:17 PM

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I really like Caldwell, I hope he stays

Ruhskins 03-02-2008 10:54 PM

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As much as it is blasphemy to talk bad about Joe Gibbs, I think coach Joe held back young QBs. We all know how much he liked veterans QB (hence Brunell), and I think his play calling was very conservative when JC was at the helm. When Todd Collins took over, it seems that the reins were released and the team had a more aggressive approach.

I wholeheartedly agree that the developtment of JC is very important, however I do think that the team should address in giving JC another target in the passing game. And that could very well be Hackett. However, I also think that JC will have a coach that has confidence on him and will give him free reign.

oldhog44 03-03-2008 08:20 AM

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Great Thread and Post Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!

redskinsfanatic 03-03-2008 08:53 AM

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well so far,you have gotten your wish.the skins have done absolutley nothing in the free agency pool!

EXoffender 03-03-2008 09:17 AM

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It'll be best to aquire a big WR through free agency as supposed to banking on a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round Rookie to make an immediate impact. I say this because I think we need [U]a guy to start opposite of Moss[/U] and have Randle El play the slot where he's been very effective. We could still draft a WR on day 2 but only for depth and special teams. D.J. Hackett and Bryant Johnson (and Wilford, who was signed to an affordable contract) fits that bill. It's hard to say if Hackett will demand top dollar ($10M+ guaranteed) to sign since we're a few days into FA but, with Randy Moss still available, teams may fight over him as a fall back option. One starting-caliber free agent pickup at any position of need would set us up nicely for the draft. We could kick back and draft the best player available each time we're on the clock...

JLee9718 03-03-2008 10:23 AM

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I agree with everyone that said the Redskins should keep all their picks. Plus they should find out if Anthony Mix is going to be everything we want in a big wide receiver. He's 6'5" and knows Jason Campbell's tendencies. I need to research the Auburn games he played in and see how he did. But right now I like him better than signing somebody who's a free agent, like Hackett.

Soup's Uncle 03-03-2008 10:28 AM

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That would be so sweet if Mix could work out.

EXoffender 03-03-2008 11:05 AM

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Mix would be the ideal. We were all excited when Steven Harris and Mike Espy showed signs of promise...

2BIG2BSKINNY 03-03-2008 11:20 AM

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After years of tryin' the quick fix to get a bad team to go to the next level ...now we are graced with a good team and should stay out of the splash free agent business to get to the next level. We need depth and to get younger...the Draft is the safest vehicle to do this...now I do think we should not pick thinking of the home run...which has been our demise during the last 10 to 15 years of first round draft...desmond howard, westbrook and Heath Shuler ect... When you draft lineman over skill players it is harder to strikeout swinging for the fences.

prinzeofmoval 03-03-2008 11:44 AM

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i don't get some of you guys..one day i see you post we should get hackett or florence maybe berrian now you're saying oh we should back off and develop..lets make up our minds. yes this is an expensive free agency year but thats because of the level of talent out there. if there ever was a time snyder should open his checkbook it was this year.

DGreene28 03-03-2008 11:46 AM

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I just looked at Mix' highlights at Auburn. Here's what I saw:

1. Great hands
2. Decent speed
3. Well below average athleticism for a WR excellent for a TE

I think he could be a real weapon in the red zone and on short yardage but he may not have the athleticism to get separation on a regular basis. IMO he looks good enough even at the college level to get a real good look in camp... not even taking into account his familiarity with JC.

But he is not on the same level as Malcolm Kelly, Limas Sweed and James Hardy. Hardy could be the steal of the draft in round 2. He looks great... prob won't fall to us however.

prinzeofmoval 03-03-2008 12:01 PM

Re: Redskins should do NOTHING
 
[QUOTE=DGreene28;428515]I just looked at Mix' highlights at Auburn. Here's what I saw:

1. Great hands
2. Decent speed
3. Well below average athleticism for a WR excellent for a TE

I think he could be a real weapon in the red zone and on short yardage but he may not have the athleticism to get separation on a regular basis. IMO he looks good enough even at the college level to get a real good look in camp... not even taking into account his familiarity with JC.

But he is not on the same level as Malcolm Kelly, Limas Sweed and James Hardy. Hardy could be the steal of the draft in round 2. He looks great... prob won't fall to us however.[/QUOTE]


thank you..i'm tired of the look at Mix's highlights..i don't doubt is ability but really if he was that good why no press?

DGreene28 03-03-2008 12:10 PM

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[quote=prinzeofmoval;428520]thank you..i'm tired of the look at Mix's highlights..i don't doubt is ability but really if he was that good why no press?[/quote]

Because he hasn't shown anything at this level but potential and is probably a tweener. He looks like a poor mans Mike Williams.

IMO we should draft James Hardy in the first 2 rounds, some publications have him falling into the 3rd round but I think he will be gone mid 2nd

The guy is a monster. 6'5" 217 lbs 4.49 in the 40 18 reps 225
And it all hold up when you watch him on film.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-03-2008 01:26 PM

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[quote=DGreene28;428525]Because he hasn't shown anything at this level but potential and is probably a tweener. [B][I]He looks like a poor mans Mike Williams.[/I][/B]

IMO we should draft James Hardy in the first 2 rounds, some publications have him falling into the 3rd round but I think he will be gone mid 2nd

The guy is a monster. 6'5" 217 lbs 4.49 in the 40 18 reps 225
And it all hold up when you watch him on film.[/quote]

:doh: That should be enough to tell you right there.

On a serious note, there's a reason they're called "highlights". I don't think I'll ever look at someone's highlight reel and all of a sudden expect them to be a monster. You have to look at true game film, look at how they block when they don't get the ball. You have to look at how they sell routes. Not to bust your balls, but we really don't have anything to go on besides the feel-good things the Redskins have told us about him...

SmootSmack 03-03-2008 01:31 PM

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;428557]:doh: That should be enough to tell you right there.

On a serious note, there's a reason they're called "highlights". I don't think I'll ever look at someone's highlight reel and all of a sudden expect them to be a monster. You have to look at true game film, look at how they block when they don't get the ball. You have to look at how they sell routes. Not to bust your balls, but we really don't have anything to go on besides the feel-good things the Redskins have told us about him...[/QUOTE]

Not to blow DG's cover, but-unless he's moved on to another sport-he works on college football here so when he's talking about seeing Mix's highlights he's not talking about some 4-minute package with cool wipes and Linkin Park music. He's watching each play from multiple angles (many of which never make it to broadcast tv). I don't really agree with him on Hardy (I don't think we really need to draft a WR before round 3), but I just wanted to make it clear that it's not like DGreene is going on YouTube and searching "Anthony Mix"

EXoffender 03-03-2008 01:32 PM

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I read somewhere (USAToday) where Malcolm Kelly(?) dropped only 2 passes the last two years...

DGreene28 03-03-2008 01:33 PM

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[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=17012]Anthony Mix, WR, Auburn - 2006 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/url]

Looks like Mix ran a 4.48 at the combine in 2006 which is great for a WR his size.

He actually has a better vertical then Hardy at 32"

However he is a almost a foot shorter then Hardy on the broad Jump.

He is significantly slower then Hardy in the shuttle and 3-cone which would explain the drop off in athleticism.

I know the combine is an inexact science but at least it's something tangible we can analyze in determining our needs at WR heading into the draft.

Hardy was also way more productive in college then Mix.

DGreene28 03-03-2008 01:50 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;428558]Not to blow DG's cover, but-unless he's moved on to another sport-he works on college football here so when he's talking about seeing Mix's highlights he's not talking about some 4-minute package with cool wipes and Linkin Park music. He's watching each play from multiple angles (many of which never make it to broadcast tv). I don't really agree with him on Hardy (I don't think we really need to draft a WR before round 3), but I just wanted to make it clear that it's not like DGreene is going on YouTube and searching "Anthony Mix"[/quote]

Haha, true SS sometimes it's hard to explain... actually on the draft now. I think James Hardy is going to be a lot better then Devin Thomas at the next level, but we'll see. He's steadily climbing up the boards and has the crazy numbers to back it up on the field in a good conference. I think it depends who is there. I don't like Calais Campbell which is another one who the experts say we may go with. He doesn't look as athletic as Derrick Harvey.

If McKelvin or Rodgers-Cromartie are available then we may have to go there, stay away from Cason SS even in the second. We don't have to go DE in the first round, the Bears drafted Mark Anderson in the 5th round and the Giants drafted Osi and Strahan in the 2nd.

Peyton Hillis would be an outstanding pick for us in round 4 if he's still there, just as strong as Schmitt and if you look at all of McFadden's runs Hillis has a great block in just about all of them.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-03-2008 01:57 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;428558][B][I]Not to blow DG's cover, but-unless he's moved on to another sport-he works on college football here so when he's talking about seeing Mix's highlights he's not talking about some 4-minute package with cool wipes and Linkin Park music. [/I][/B]He's watching each play from multiple angles (many of which never make it to broadcast tv). I don't really agree with him on Hardy (I don't think we really need to draft a WR before round 3), but I just wanted to make it clear that it's not like DGreene is going on YouTube and searching "Anthony Mix"[/quote]

Well that's a horse of a different color! (could not find lame Wizard of Oz pic to post)

That being said, we all need to remember that YouTube IS the foremost authority on all athletes and we shouldn't forget that. :biggthump

TheMalcolmConnection 03-03-2008 01:57 PM

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And my bad DGreene. ;)

SmootSmack 03-03-2008 02:12 PM

Re: Redskins should do NOTHING
 
[QUOTE=DGreene28;428572]Haha, true SS sometimes it's hard to explain... actually on the draft now. I think James Hardy is going to be a lot better then Devin Thomas at the next level, but we'll see. He's steadily climbing up the boards and has the crazy numbers to back it up on the field in a good conference. I think it depends who is there. I don't like Calais Campbell which is another one who the experts say we may go with. He doesn't look as athletic as Derrick Harvey.

If McKelvin or Rodgers-Cromartie are available then we may have to go there, stay away from Cason SS even in the second. We don't have to go DE in the first round, the Bears drafted Mark Anderson in the 5th round and the Giants drafted Osi and Strahan in the 2nd.

Peyton Hillis would be an outstanding pick for us in round 4 if he's still there, just as strong as Schmitt and if you look at all of McFadden's runs Hillis has a great block in just about all of them.[/QUOTE]

I'm tempted to take a chance on someone like a Marcus Monk, Bruce Hocker, or Paul Hubbard in the 5th round.

jsarno 03-03-2008 06:13 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;428582]I'm tempted to take a chance on someone like a [b]Marcus Monk[/b], Bruce Hocker, or Paul Hubbard in the 5th round.[/QUOTE]

Is he seriously projected to be a 5th round pick? I think that would be a STEAL if we could get him in the 5th.

SmootSmack 03-03-2008 06:32 PM

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yeah he's in that 4-6 range

jsarno 03-03-2008 06:59 PM

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[QUOTE=SmootSmack;428713]yeah he's in that 4-6 range[/QUOTE]

wow...I would be THRILLED to get him in the 5th then.
Sure there is concern about his knee, but he's 6'6", 219lbs, and got better as the season went on this year after missing the first 7 games. He had 11 tds in 06, and a killer 19.2 average. I think this kid is a winner, and would be amazing for someone some day. He has the complete package. If we can get him for a meezly 5th round pick and pay him what a 5th rounder gets, we'll be sitting pretty.

prinzeofmoval 03-04-2008 12:06 AM

Re: Redskins should do NOTHING
 
[QUOTE=DGreene28;428525]Because he hasn't shown anything at this level but potential and is probably a tweener. He looks like a poor mans Mike Williams.

IMO we should draft James Hardy in the first 2 rounds, some publications have him falling into the 3rd round but I think he will be gone mid 2nd

The guy is a monster. 6'5" 217 lbs 4.49 in the 40 18 reps 225
And it all hold up when you watch him on film.[/QUOTE]

now i like james hardy..that kid is a stud and good fit in our soon to be westcoast offense


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