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Schneed10 03-28-2008 09:21 AM

Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
ASHBURN, Va. -- Seldom has a promotion produced less of a response than [COLOR=black]Washington's [/COLOR]naming of Vinny Cerrato as its executive vice president of football operations, but don't kid yourself: That shouldn't diminish the significance of the move.

With it, Cerrato ascends to a position where he can shape and determine the Redskins' immediate future, and if you don't believe me you weren't paying attention to the team's last coaching hire.

It was Cerrato who swung the votes in favor of Jim Zorn. It was Cerrato who headed the search for the team's new public relations director, too. It was Cerrato who urged owner Daniel Snyder to avoid the free-agent frenzy. And it will be Cerrato who takes the wheel for the club's next spin around the NFL Draft.

"I have a lot more say-so," he said.

Well, then, it's about time.

[url=http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10742576/1]Washington Redskins, Adam Archuleta, Andre Carter, Brandon Lloyd, National Football League - CBSSports.com[/url]

TheMalcolmConnection 03-28-2008 09:27 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
That's an article I never thought would be published...

Game plan? Cerrato? Noooooo....?!

hagams 03-28-2008 09:33 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
We are still talking about the Redskins, Right? If you could take the reports that are coming out this year, and post them last year, how many of you would belive them? Not me.

SkinsFanSince91 03-28-2008 09:53 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
Looks like with a game plan, we may actually be a threat to the league this year!

Woo Hoo! No more Tom-foolery!

SKINSnCANES 03-28-2008 10:05 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
Its kinda funny how everyone laughed when it took a month to get a coach, and now we have signed zero free agents. So it almost appears like we dont know what we are doing, that we were leading on coachs to think they ahd the job...

then all of a sudden doing nothing turns into, "look at our great master plan we are following"

gotta love the media!

I wish we could fast forward a fwe things to see how it all plays out

Schneed10 03-28-2008 10:26 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;435333]Its kinda funny how everyone laughed when it took a month to get a coach, and now we have signed zero free agents. So it almost appears like we dont know what we are doing, that we were leading on coachs to think they ahd the job...

then all of a sudden doing nothing turns into, "look at our great master plan we are following"

gotta love the media!

I wish we could fast forward a fwe things to see how it all plays out[/quote]

Well I don't recall Clark Judge ever saying we didn't know what we were doing on our coaching search.

I really can't stand that. You can't lump the media all together as if they're one voice. Just because a handful of columnists ridiculed us during the coaching search doesn't mean all columnists agree. Judge clearly likes our approach this offseason and hasn't uttered a word to the contrary. Each member of the media has their own opinion and should be treated as such.

Some members of the media are going to ridicule us. Others are going to praise us. Since nobody has a crystal ball, you're bound to get conflicting opinions.

That's all they are, opinions.

MTK 03-28-2008 10:32 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
Great read. Nice to see someone out there recognizing what's going on here and not just bashing because it's the Redskins.

I really like the fact that we finally have someone in the front office to hold accountable. In the past it's always been a mystery as to who exactly was calling the shots. Now we know it's Vinny's ship.

SmootSmack 03-28-2008 10:42 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=Schneed10;435335]I really can't stand that. You can't lump the media all together as if they're one voice. Just because a handful of columnists ridiculed us during the coaching search doesn't mean all columnists agree. Judge clearly likes our approach this offseason and hasn't uttered a word to the contrary. Each member of the media has their own opinion and should be treated as such.[/QUOTE]

I heart you so much right now.

Dirtbag59 03-28-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
If that gameplan inculudes taking Albert then I will fight the rest of you to the death when you bash Cerrato, well unless until Albert becomes a bust. In that case I would hide under a rock and cry.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 08:54 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
lol this article is pretty funny

all of a sudden the skins have a plan because they can't afford to binge on free agents

brilliant!

tryfuhl 03-31-2008 09:09 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
If Cerrato pulls this off the fanbase will have to find a new guy to hate.

tryfuhl 03-31-2008 09:10 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=denim_monger;435750]lol this article is pretty funny

all of a sudden the skins have a plan because they can't afford to binge on free agents

brilliant![/QUOTE]

The only posts that I've seen from you have been snide remarks, go back to your Giants forum to make fun of everyone else. I think that having 8mil cap space could afford us a few free agents, not to mention if we really wanted to clear some more space, we could've.

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:15 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435750]lol this article is pretty funny

all of a sudden the skins have a plan because they can't [B]afford[/B] to binge on free agents

brilliant![/quote]

Danny can [B]AFFORD[/B] sign half of the Giants fans in the country if he wanted to. He [B]chose [/B]not to restructure players' contracts by paying out their salaries in the form of a bonus like he always did before. Get your facts straight.

We are still roughly 8 mil under the cap even after we sign our rookies after the draft.

[B]NEXT![/B]

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:19 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
I didn't realize the fans were players, in that case sign me up I'd be glad to take some of Danny's millions. He seems to give away monster deals like candy anyways. Hows Brandon Lloyd working out for ya anyways?

Schneed10 03-31-2008 09:21 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=angryssg;435765]Danny can [B]AFFORD[/B] sign half of the Giants fans in the country if he wanted to. He [B]chose [/B]not to restructure players' contracts by paying out their salaries in the form of a bonus like he always did before. Get your facts straight.

We are still roughly 8 mil under the cap even after we sign our rookies after the draft.

[B]NEXT![/B][/quote]

Actually we're about $7.0 - $7.5 million under now, then after we sign the rookies we'll be about $3.0 - $3.5 million under, and then when Lloyd clears from the books in June we'll be $5.5 - $6.0 million under.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:22 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=Schneed10;435769]Actually we're about $7.0 - $7.5 million under now, then after we sign the rookies we'll be about $3.0 - $3.5 million under, and then when Lloyd clears from the books in June we'll be $5.5 - $6.0 million under.[/quote]

thank you a Skins fan who knows what he's talking about

NEXT!

Schneed10 03-31-2008 09:22 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435768]I didn't realize the fans were players, in that case sign me up I'd be glad to take some of Danny's millions. He seems to give away monster deals like candy anyways. Hows Brandon Lloyd working out for ya anyways?[/quote]

I see you've switched from the Bears to the Giants. Go drink some Beam!

Where's PWNED? If we want to REALLY spice things up around here, I think a PWNED vs you debate would really get things going!

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:25 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435768]I didn't realize the fans were players, in that case sign me up I'd be glad to take some of Danny's millions. He seems to give away monster deals like candy anyways. Hows Brandon Lloyd working out for ya anyways?[/quote]

That is exactly why your team cannot win a home game. Disloyalty. I told you that you could be bought. Thanks for being my example.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:25 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=Schneed10;435772]I see you've switched from the Bears to the Giants. Go drink some Beam!

Where's PWNED? If we want to REALLY spice things up around here, I think a PWNED vs you debate would really get things going![/quote]

I switched after the Bears went to the bowl I knew they had peaked

g-men all the way baby

NEXT!

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:27 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=Schneed10;435769]Actually we're about $7.0 - $7.5 million under now, then after we sign the rookies we'll be about $3.0 - $3.5 million under, and then when Lloyd clears from the books in June we'll be $5.5 - $6.0 million under.[/quote]

Not arguing with you, but that is not what Cerrato said on Redskins radio/redskins .comTV a couple of weeks ago.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:28 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=angryssg;435780]Not arguing with you, but that is not what Cerrato said on Redskins radio/redskins .comTV a couple of weeks ago.[/quote]

Is this the same Vinnie that used to do game day chats on espn?

Now he's running your team?

omg

lmaorotfl

next!

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:30 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435781]Is this the same Vinnie that used to do game day chats on espn?

Now he's running your team?

omg

lmaorotfl

next![/quote]

Don't you have a pizza to deliver or a subway to catch or something.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:32 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=angryssg;435784]Don't you have a pizza to deliver or a subway to catch or something.[/quote]

thanks for reminding me your wife did just order a pizza

special delivery extra sausage for Mrs. Angry!!

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:38 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435785]thanks for reminding me your wife did just order a pizza

special delivery extra sausage for Mrs. Angry!![/quote]

Nice try, she doesnt like vienna sausages or New Yorkers, so you are barkin up the wrong tree.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:41 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=angryssg;435787]Nice try, she doesnt like vienna sausages or New Yorkers, so you are barkin up the wrong tree.[/quote]

she likes it extra spicey, she sure orders pizza alot!

tryfuhl 03-31-2008 09:41 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=denim_monger;435771]thank you a Skins fan who knows what he's talking about

NEXT![/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031802863.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]



[QUOTE]Because the Redskins are about $8 million under the salary cap (they also have set aside about $5 million to sign draft picks and players during the season), their lack of activity has raised eyebrows, considering they have been among the most aggressive teams in recent years[/QUOTE]


NEXT!

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 09:43 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435788]she likes it extra spicey, she sure orders pizza alot![/quote]

No she likes it 2 girls 1 cup style, you still interested? I don't mind if you eat shit.

tryfuhl 03-31-2008 09:44 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=denim_monger;435777]I switched after the Bears went to the bowl I knew they had peaked

g-men all the way baby

NEXT![/QUOTE]

You're a ****ing disgrace to true fans everywhere.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 09:47 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=tryfuhl;435791]You're a ****ing disgrace to true fans everywhere.[/quote]

true fans know when to jump ship for greener pastures

only idiots ride the sinking ship to the bottom of the ocean

life is good at the top, you should try it sometime

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-31-2008 09:57 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=denim_monger;435792]true fans know when to jump ship for greener pastures

only idiots ride the sinking ship to the bottom of the ocean

life is good at the top, you should try it sometime[/quote]


So you are a fairweather fan. Ok now I understand why you havent showed up until now. You became a Giants fan when???????? Right after Bill Bellicheck walked off the field.

SmootSmack 03-31-2008 10:15 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=denim_monger;435777]I switched after the Bears went to the bowl I knew they had peaked

g-men all the way baby

NEXT![/QUOTE]

I guess you'll be a Redskins fan next year :). Then we'll [u]really[/u] wonder what happened to our fan base. You're pathetic

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-31-2008 10:17 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=SmootSmack;435808]I guess you'll be a Redskins fan next year :). Then we'll [U]really[/U] wonder what happened to our fan base. You're pathetic[/quote]


hes not worth it. He only makes a post once every 11 months

DiehardSkin88 03-31-2008 10:38 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
more like make posts once the season is over

offfiss 03-31-2008 10:38 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
We're clearly seeing now that Joe Gibbs held us back the last four years. We're being smart in the offseason finally and its no coinsidence that it's happening with Gibbs gone. Joe Gibbs is just an average coach without Bobby Beathard.

freddyg12 03-31-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=offfiss;435818]We're clearly seeing now that Joe Gibbs held us back the last four years. We're being smart in the offseason finally and its no coinsidence that it's happening with Gibbs gone. Joe Gibbs is just an average coach without Bobby Beathard.[/quote]

Can we get a sarcasm or joking reference? I don't want to argue if you're just joking.

Playoffs twice in 4 years, thats twice as much as the skins had been since...Joe Gibbs left in 93.

freddyg12 03-31-2008 11:00 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
To hopefully bring this thread back to the subject of its title; let's hope that the Danny is truly patient w/the new order. Zorn can't be expected to do too much even if he inherits a playoff team.

We were only 9-7 and as JLC pointed out, the loss of ST & injuries to Rocky & Carlos could impact the D more this season from purely a football standpoint than it did at the end of last year when emotions were high.

Give Zorn & Vinny a chance to build. Don't overreact if the team has a tough year.

Hog1 03-31-2008 11:00 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[quote=offfiss;435818]We're clearly seeing now that Joe Gibbs held us back the last four years. We're being smart in the offseason finally and its no coinsidence that it's happening with Gibbs gone. Joe Gibbs is just an average coach without Bobby Beathard.[/quote]

Bobby is a hell of a play caller!

FRPLG 03-31-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
[QUOTE=freddyg12;435819]Can we get a sarcasm or joking reference? I don't want to argue if you're just joking.

Playoffs twice in 4 years, thats twice as much as the skins had been since...Joe Gibbs left in 93.[/QUOTE]

Sadly I am pretty sure he isn't joking. Somehow in his mind a GM won 3 SBs for us.

KLHJ2 03-31-2008 11:11 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
That is not the same offiss. He is either unorigional, an imposter, or he forgot his password.

FRPLG 03-31-2008 11:16 AM

Re: Clark Judge: With Cerrato Now Calling Shots, 'Skins May Finally Have a Front-office Game Plan
 
Good catch on that angryssg.


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