3:10 to Jordy-ville!
 

Hop on the 3:10to Jordy-Ville, cuz that's where its a stoppin!

Jordy Nelson is not going to make it past Minnesota at #74, which is the 3rd round - 10th pick, and we pick at #85. Unless we trade up [B]([I]which we won't do because we lose draft picks, and I have been saying that we need to keep all of them for the longest[/I][/B]) or pick Nelson late in the 2nd round, our chances for drafting one of the more blatantly hidden talents in the draft will be slim.

Jordy is to being a Redskins Core Player, as Neo is to being The One! Jordy is a Redskin Core Player, he just doesn't know it yet.

He has all the intangibles that we all know Joe Gibbs would have loved. He is 6'2" 217lbs wide out with a 4.49 40-yard dash, a good work ethic, instincts as a route runner, great hands, great athleticism, special team skills, and, to top it all off, he is a high character Associated Press All-American who would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round to us. Furthermore, his game tape backs all of that up!

I think it will be interesting to see where he goes, but I don't really wanna see him elsewhere. We can address our need for a good WR early, while still not committing a 1st round pick to the WR spot(which we all know is dangerous). Likely here, at this position, we could take Branden Albert, if Cromartie isn't still there, in the 1st round and Jordy in the 2nd round. I would not be mad at Cromartie/Nelson or Albert/Nelson ticket after the first day.

What do you all think? Too early for Jordy in the 2nd round? Right on time. maybe? Or do we hit the pipe, play madden, and then draft a WR in the first?

Thoughts?

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This is exactly same question I have been asking myself.. Is Jordy worth it to take in 2nd rd? For some reason, he is only WR I really want Redskins to draft.. I even looked around for other WRs with potentials but I don't have any good feelings about them except for Jordy.. I guess all we can do is wait until and see what plans Redskins made..

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Reaching for a 'hidden talent' is generally (actually, never) a good draft strategy.

It does sound like you've slotted this thing out when you figured this out, and for that Kudos, but I think you...[I]might[/I]...just be a bit high on Jordy here.

How about we don't take him above slot? If he's there for the third round, and no better receivers slipped to the the third, lets consider it. He seems like as far as mid round players though, he's a solid prospect. But lets not lose our heads here. If someone else takes him...whatever. They probably overvalued him anyway.

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Maybe some of us re high on Jordy as we are not supposed to be.. But like I mentioned in earlier thread, for some reason; I have good feelings about him.. And I don't usually feel those feelings for most of players, so.. But I'm not saying that we should take him at 2nd rd.. I'm just hoping that somehow we will find a way to get him without harming our picks or whatever.. I guess that is just a dream?

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I think Jordy Nelson would be a nice addition to this team.

I would say the same for about 60 other players in this draft. It's all relative to slot. If we get the compensatory 3rd rounder that people expect us to next week, I think we could get value on Nelson at that spot, provided that our more critical needs have been filled first.

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3rd round only! , we already have Mix. granted relatively untested but he won't cost us a second rounder. I think it would be foolish to be that impaitent with our current WR's.

-all im saying is lets not jump the gun. there are more needy positions to consider before WR (DT,CB,OL)

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;435480]I think Jordy Nelson would be a nice addition to this team.

I would say the same for about 60 other players in this draft. It's all relative to slot. If we get the compensatory 3rd rounder that people expect us to next week, I think we could get value on Nelson at that spot, provided that our more critical needs have been filled first.[/QUOTE]

WR is a critical need.

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;435513]WR is a critical need.[/QUOTE]Did something happen to Santana or ARE that I'm not aware of?

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;435516]Did something happen to Santana or ARE that I'm not aware of?[/QUOTE]

I mean a big WR.

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;435517]I mean a big WR.[/QUOTE]Critical need?

We definately could use one, but in the same way that we need offensive linemen to replace the 5 guys who are over thirty right now?

That would definately be a misapplication of resources. Especially since the draft is stronger on the OL than at WR.

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Jordy Nelson would be a steal for us, only in the third round....

WE need to adress the De position 1st round [B]DE Phllip Merling[/B] or CB Aquib Talib

2nd Round [B]Saftey Josh Barrett[/B] or Wr Manningham

3rd Round [B]WR Jordy Nelson[/B] or Jason Jones DE

Compensatory 3rd [B] CB Zach Bowman [/B]

[B]pass rush,safety wr,cb........ lb 5th / og 6th/ og-t 7th/ dt 7th[/B]

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;435444]What do you all think? Too early for Jordy in the 2nd round? Right on time. maybe? Or do we hit the pipe, play madden, and then draft a WR in the first?

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

i think Jordy Nelson is going to be a good receiver, but a bit of a reach in the second round.

if we pick a receiver in the second round it should be: Malcolm Kelly, Early Doucet or Andre Caldwell alot of draft experts have them going in the second round

I would much rather wait until the 3rd round to get Nelson /Will Franklin.

Depending on who we take in the first: Harvey/Talib/Albert

i would like to see us take: DB-/Reggie Smith/Tracey Porter/

DE-Calias Campbell

RB-Chris Johnson

(I know we already have an all-pro caliber back in Portis and a quality back-up in Betts, but i think if Chris Johnson is there in the second how could we pass?)

opinions?

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[quote=30gut;435537]i think Jordy Nelson is going to be a good receiver, but a bit of a reach in the second round.

if we pick a receiver in the second round it should be: Malcolm Kelly, Early Doucet or Andre Caldwell alot of draft experts have them going in the second round

I would much rather wait until the 3rd round to get Nelson /Will Franklin.

Depending on who we take in the first: Harvey/Talib/Albert

i would like to see us take: DB-/Reggie Smith/Tracey Porter/

DE-Calias Campbell

[B] RB-Chris Johnson

(I know we already have an all-pro caliber back in Portis and a quality back-up in Betts, but i think if Chris Johnson is there in the second how could we pass?)[/B]

opinions?[/quote]

We don't need to waste our picks on ANY kind of running backs.. We have plenty, we already have Portis, Betts, and Rock Cartwright.. Also not to mention Marcus Mason - I believe he is better than Rock.. So we def don't need any extra RBs, unless they are undrafted free agents.. I wld be fine with it..

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[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;435513]WR is a critical need.[/QUOTE]

*cough* Matt Millen *cough*

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[quote=GTripp0012;435516]Did something happen to Santana or ARE that I'm not aware of?[/quote]

Oh...I don't know...maybe....constant groin pull. almost what every year? or Hammie? I love Santana but he has his injuries.

I do like Mix though. I'm betting he puts a lot of this to rest for us. Everyone is on the other side of the fence simply because he got cut from the Giants but I'm betting he's better then most of us think. He was supposed to replace one of their best WR but got cut to make room for another player in another position. I pray he teaches them a lesson come game 1.

This doesn't mean I'm not for a bigger WR though or a proven (CJ) WR.

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I think that going to Jordy will not be a stretch in the 2nd. Considering that there WILL be a run at receivers from the end of the 1st to the middle of the 2nd round.

If we don't address that position of WR early we may be left up sh*t's creek without a paddle when it comes to getting quality talent at WR in the first few rounds of the draft.

Think about it. Getting a qulaity Wr has to be a priority because we have a QB that needs better weapons. By better I essetially mean drafting a taller WR, with good intangibles, goo dupside, and good collegiate production that will be an investment into Jason Campbell. We can not "hope" to have someone falls to us or find a diamond in the rough.

Every other franchise drafts a WR when they get a franchise QB, with the exception the Eagles and see how there offense is without one. When they have TO, they were a force. We need to invest in JC and one of the best ways to do that is to get GOOD talent early at the WR position, lest we end up stalling in the redzone, faltering without quality depth, and having the smurfs for one more term.

PS
I like MIX, but we can't let our draft strategy rest on a player that is unproven just yet.

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[QUOTE=SkinsFanSince91;435823]I like MIX, but we can't let our draft strategy rest on a player that is unproven just yet.[/QUOTE]

Isn't that what the draft is all about anyway?

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I hate to say it but Mix has shown more than anyone coming out of the draft. He played Pre-season with the Giants and supposedly looked good. He has been a Special Teamer with us and has been awsome. I'll take Mix over anyone in the draft right now, but it would be nice to get another tall WR that may be able to contribute or if nothing else then to grow with JC.

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This is all fine speculation, but I seriously doubt if anyone on here has ever seen this 6'5" 235 lbs WR ever run a route or catch a pass, for that matter. The answer is no!

The only thing we have seen is Mix makes special teams tackles. Lets wait, give him some competition in camp via the draft (***Insert Shameless Jordy Nelson plug here ***), and then see who breaks out and develops into a threat for our passing game on day one.

And, now that we have an extra 3rd round choice at #96 overall, we can afford to take him in the bottom of the 2nd round.

Things are lookin up for us Skins' fans!

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To top it off, your favorite ESPN football pundit Todd McShay has us taking Philip Merling in the 1st round and [B][U]Jordy Nelson in the 2nd!!![/U][/B]

So I guess I am not crazy after all.

Round 2
Team Player Position School
33. Miami Dolphins Chad Henne QB Michigan
34. St. Louis Rams Mario Manningham WR Michigan
35. Atlanta Falcons (From Oakland) Pat Sims DT Auburn
36. Kansas City Chiefs Sam Baker OT USC
37. N.Y. Jets Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
38. Atlanta Falcons Antoine Cason CB Arizona
39. Baltimore Ravens Joe Flacco QB Delaware
40. San Francisco 49ers Anthony Collins OT Kansas
41. New Orleans Saints Kenny Phillips S Miami (Fla.)
42. Buffalo Bills Tracy Porter CB Indiana
43. Denver Broncos James Hardy WR Indiana
44. Carolina Panthers Brian Brohm QB Louisville
45. Chicago Bears Ray Rice RB Rutgers
46. Detroit Lions Cliff Avril DE Purdue
47. Cincinnati Bengals Fred Davis TE USC
48. Minnesota Vikings Lawrence Jackson DE USC
49. Atlanta Falcons (From Houston) Chilo Rachal G USC
50. Philadelphia Eagles Early Doucet WR LSU
51. Arizona Cardinals Jamaal Charles RB Texas
[SIZE="3"][B][I][U]52. Washington Redskins Jordy Nelson WR Kansas State [/U][/I][/B][/SIZE]
53. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Justin King CB Penn State
54. Pittsburgh Steelers Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
55. Tennessee Titans Andre Caldwell WR Florida
56. Seattle Seahawks Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
57. Green Bay Packers (From Cleveland) Duane Brown OT Virginia Tech
58. Miami Dolphins (From San Diego) Reggie Smith CB Oklahoma
59. Jacksonville Jaguars Patrick Lee CB Auburn
60. Indianapolis Colts Quentin Groves DE Auburn
61. Green Bay Packers John Carlson TE Notre Dame
62. Dallas Cowboys Mike Pollak C Arizona State
63. New England Patriots Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma
64. N.Y. Giants Tyrell Johnson S Arkansas State

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Merlin Gin?

Sounds delicious.

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;436380]To top it off, your favorite ESPN football pundit Todd McShay has Us taking Philip Merlingin the 1st round and [B][U]Jordy Nelson in the 2nd!![/U][/B]

So I guess I am not crazy after all.[/quote]McShay is nuts, but that wouldn't be a necessarily poor use of our first two draft picks.

Not sure Jordy can fix the OL all by himself though. I mean, I don't think we are obligated to take a OL guy on the first day, but if we were going to pass on one, I would hope that we could get someone a little more valuable than Nelson.

Of course, if we couldn't, I'd welcome Jordy to Washington with open arms.

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Tdd McShay has no idea what hes talking about. he must watch games on VHS. Phillip Merling is Renaldo Wynn all over again. if that's what we want another lowsy de then it just proves my point

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[QUOTE=offfiss;436402]Tdd McShay has no idea what hes talking about. he must watch games on VHS. Phillip Merling is Renaldo Wynn all over again. if that's what we want another lowsy de then it just proves my point[/QUOTE]

We don't need Renaldo Wynn all over again, especially a young Renaldo Wynn coming off a Hernia surgery.

People say Merling is cmplete DE, and I dont disagree. What I do think is that for a 1st round pick, as a DE his specialty is run stopping and his pass rush moves(which we need) are extremely limited.

Scouts liken him unto Justin Smith ( former Ist round pick that never turned out to be the sack master that they had hoped for).

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By the way, did anyone with ESPN insider notice that someof the overall ratings have changed?

JORDY boy went from a 79 to an 84!

Translation:
79 = late 2nd/early 3rd round
84 = late 1st round(potentially) but most likely mid to early 2nd round

WE NEED TO GET HIM FAST!

Especially before he kills the league and then the warpath has to admit that I was right!

:)

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;439576]

Especially before he kills the league and then the warpath has to admit that I was right!

:)[/quote]

Right after you admit that I was right about Albert being a 1st round pick. Possible top-10 pick to be exact (which I'm not happy about by the way but at this point I'll take what I can get) :D.

But yeah, I wonder if scouts have been trying to kill Jordy's stock up this point in hopes of getting him in the early 3rd round. Either way he's looking more and more like a lock to be a second round pick. However the fact that guys like Sweed, Hardy, Kelly, and Thomas could all drop to the early second makes picking Jordy in the late second a possiblity.

I think the knock on Jordy is the fact that he doesn't show the second gear that you see in guys like Desean Jackson and Devin Hester. Even a guy like Maningham has it, and I read on Redskins.com that the team has a huge interest in Manningham.

I also noticed the change in the Insider rating. I remember thinking "wasn't he in the late 70's" before. However I though nothing of it since countless other prospects that have risen up draft boards yet haven't had their profiles changed at all.

Unfortunately my latest line in draft wishes is for the Skins to move up to the Bears spot and take Chris Williams the LT out of Vanderbilt. Which apparently would cost the Skins their first and second round pick, but given the desire of teams to move down the chance to get away with trading a 1st and 3rd remains a possiblility. Personally I don't want to think of what happens if Chris Samuals goes down, and from what I've read Williams is good enough to play Guard for the time being.

Other then that I would love to see the team invest 2-20 in the tackle/guard out of Va Tech in Duane Brown. I love Jordy, but personally right now I think I would rather have Duane. The good news is that Duane is likely the pick if we trade down, and the Skins could use one of their newly acquired second round picks to select Jordy or Kelly, and then use the early 3rd to get a penetrating DT/DE combo in Hamptons Kendall Langoford. After which they can use that 3rd comp pick to take their FB and fan favorite for the next ten years in Owen Schmitt.

The wild card in all this is Tulanes [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/tracker/player?id=12297"][COLOR=#000000]Matt Forte[/COLOR][/URL], who apparently is a person of interest with the Redskins front office, and considering the fact that the team drafted Betts, when Davis was in his prime makes taking Matt Forte in the third a distinct possibility, especially if they decide to move Betts before the draft.

Anyway good to see people posting again.

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;439576]By the way, did anyone with ESPN insider notice that someof the overall ratings have changed?

JORDY boy went from a 79 to an 84!

Translation:
79 = late 2nd/early 3rd round
84 = late 1st round(potentially) but most likely mid to early 2nd round

WE NEED TO GET HIM FAST!

Especially before he kills the league and then the warpath has to admit that I was right!

:)[/quote]Why is that ratings change relevant. They change all the time, that doesn't make them more accurate. It's just a stab in the dark for them.

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I wouldn't mind taking Jordy Nelson or James Hardy in the second round, since that is where most receivers are projected to go and there's most likely gonna be a run of them, so we should snatch one of them up while we can. If Brandon Albert fell to us at #21 I'd take him in a heartbeat, I think he's a safer bet than any of the first round DE's and there aren't any WR's I want to take with the #21 pick. I like Devin Thomas but I'm starting to slip on him a bit.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;439643]Why is that ratings change relevant. They change all the time, that doesn't make them more accurate. It's just a stab in the dark for them.[/QUOTE]

The ratings change is relevant because it shows that he is being looked at by more teams. And if he is moving up, then someone, is consequently, moving down.

Like Raz Al Ghul said in Batman Begins, "You must mind your surroundings."

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From a former walk-on struggling to get on the field at strong safety to one of the premier receivers in the collegiate ranks. A hard worker and the kid can play. He is big 6'3 and smart. Basically everything we need in a WR. We'd be fools to pass him in the 2nd this kid has skins core player written all over him.

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I can't condone drafting Jordy unless he's capable of giving me Warp 9.5.

[IMG]http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/LaForge1.jpg[/IMG]

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warp 9.5 wont help us. We need a big smart WR who can run good routes.

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I personally like the idea of taking the best D-Lineman (or Brandon Albert) in the first round and then taking the best O-Lineman OR CB/SS in the second. There will still be a quality WR available in the third.

For instance, Jerome Simpson may be available in the 5th and he is a BEAST. A little raw, but his combine numbers are amazing. Especially his vertical leap of 41". Could be this year's Colsten.

Bottomline- WR's are TOO risky to go after in the first round. Especially this year.

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[quote=goodolddb;439758]warp 9.5 wont help us. We need a big smart WR who can run good routes.[/quote]

:doh:

If you want super smart and can run really fast, look no further than this guy:

[IMG]http://students.ou.edu/S/Simran.Singh-1/Star%20Trek/Data.JPG[/IMG]

Please don't make me go into further explanation for why this thread should be mocked.

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He looks to be a top 10 pick

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;439759]I personally like the idea of taking the best D-Lineman (or Brandon Albert) in the first round and then taking the best O-Lineman OR CB/SS in the second. There will still be a quality WR available in the third.

For instance, Jerome Simpson may be available in the 5th and he is a BEAST. A little raw, but his combine numbers are amazing. Especially his vertical leap of 41". Could be this year's Colsten.

Bottomline- WR's are TOO risky to go after in the first round. Especially this year.[/quote]

At this rate Jerome Simpson is poised to go from the late 2nd to the early 3rd. If we're lucky he'll slip to the bottom of the third but he won't be available in the 5th, and you can quote me on that. Otherwise I will send you a hallmark card with $5, if he goes in the 5th.

Also speaking of the 5th, McShay and Kiper are both predicting that Albert has a strong chance of going 5th overall to the Chiefs and if not them then the Patriots or the Ravens will take him. If he falls past that point then he won't get past the Texans at 18. I know McShay and Kiper aren't always right, but from my experience they don't put themselves into a corner by speaking so strongly about a possiblity unless they know it's likely.

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Would you guys settle for Warp 2?

[IMG]http://nbcsports.nbcunifiles.com/spts/files/nbcsports/cfb/Week%202%20Top%2025/MalcolmKelly_320x250_9-7-7.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;435528]Jordy Nelson would be a steal for us, only in the third round....

WE need to adress the De position 1st round [B]DE Phllip Merling[/B] or CB Aquib Talib

2nd Round [B]Saftey Josh Barrett[/B] or Wr Manningham

3rd Round [B]WR Jordy Nelson[/B] or Jason Jones DE

Compensatory 3rd [B]CB Zach Bowman [/B]

[B]pass rush,safety wr,cb........ lb 5th / og 6th/ og-t 7th/ dt 7th[/B][/quote]


Manningham NO way should we draft that overratted bum

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[QUOTE=goodolddb;439755]From a former walk-on struggling to get on the field at strong safety to one of the premier receivers in the collegiate ranks. A hard worker and the kid can play. He is big 6'3 and smart. Basically everything we need in a WR. We'd be fools to pass him in the 2nd this kid has skins core player written all over him.[/QUOTE]

Bout time someone sees the light!

lol

But seriously, the kid will be a great, hard-workinj, and trouble free Redskin for years to come.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;439757]I can't condone drafting Jordy unless he's capable of giving me Warp 9.5.

[IMG]http://www.durfee.net/startrek/images/LaForge1.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

lol....i knew someone would do it.

u r a fool for that one...hahaha