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J.Campbell 03-30-2008 05:36 PM

Second mock done!
 
Alright guys, here is my second mock. This one is with no trading picks.

1.Branden Albert, [B]OG[/B], 6-5, 309 pounds, Virginia.
(Seriously, who did you expect? Joe Flacco? LOL) Jk :P

2. Lawrence Jackson, [B]DE[/B], 6-4. 271 pounds, USC

3. John Greco [B]OT[/B], 6-5, 305 pounds, Toledo
(You could fit Jordy Nelson here as well)

3 comp. Terrence Wheatley, [B]CB[/B], 5-9, 187 pounds, Colorado

5. Dennis Dixon [B]QB[/B], 6-3, 195 pounds, Oregon

6.David Roach, [B]S[/B] 6-0, 210 pounds, TCU.
(I heard we need depth at safety, lets hope he drops this far)

7. Robbie Krutilla, [B]C[/B] 6-3, 308 pounds, Western Michigan

7. Malik Jackson, [B]OLB[/B] 6-2, 232 pounds, Louisville

7. Marcus Monk, [B]WR[/B], 6-4, 222 pounds, Arkansas

Ok I moved Marcus Monk to 7th, Added Dixon as 5th round QB.

BeastsoftheNFCeast 03-30-2008 06:01 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I dont understand why we would draft a Tackle with our first pick, we have Samuels, Jansen, Wade, and Heyer...And due to the signing bonuses left on Jansen's and Samels's contracts, there not going anywhere for a few years. Also, Atlanta would never make that deal (unless somebody drops that they love), Their 2 picks are too high, and our 1 is too low to make 2 2nd rounders for our 1st rounder a fair trade. Besides, Atlanta has more needs to adress than we do, so more draft picks is more valuable to them.

Skinsfan1967 03-30-2008 06:12 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
Folks inside of football can be superstitious. I think we keep the 21st pick.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-30-2008 11:01 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
If you were the Falcons' GM, would you trade 2 early 2nd rounders for a late first rounder? Those 2 2nd rounders are worth a heck of a lot more than you think.

SmootSmack 03-30-2008 11:25 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I got no problem with your first three picks but as SGG said we'll probably have to add something to a Falcons' trade. Though it could be a 2009 pick potentially.

GMScud 03-30-2008 11:29 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
Marcus Monk is projected as a 6th or 7th round pick. "Stealing" him in the 3rd round ain't gonna happen.

SC Skins Fan 03-31-2008 08:11 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
Going by the NFL's draft value chart, the Falcon's picks are worth:

34 = 560
37 = 530
48 = 420

The Skins pick is worth:

21 = 800

So getting their top two picks in the second round would leave us owing them 290, or the equivalent of a late second or very early third (our second is valued at 390; our third at 170). Given the needs the Falcons have I don't see them trading back into the first unless something crazy happens (like Matt Ryan drops a la Brady Quinn last year).

freddyg12 03-31-2008 11:18 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=SC Skins Fan;435738]Going by the NFL's draft value chart, the Falcon's picks are worth:

34 = 560
37 = 530
48 = 420

The Skins pick is worth:

21 = 800

So getting their top two picks in the second round would leave us owing them 290, or the equivalent of a late second or very early third (our second is valued at 390; our third at 170). Given the needs the Falcons have I don't see them trading back into the first unless something crazy happens (like Matt Ryan drops a la Brady Quinn last year).[/quote]

Agreed, but what about another qb. Say Brohm? There could be a couple of those guys available at #21 & if Atl. doesn't draft a qb w/their #1, trading up to get one makes sense given the no. of picks they have. In the end they'd get 3 players in the 1st 2 rounds, one of which could be a qb. We'd get 3 2nd rounders w/no 1st rounder. Not too bad a deal if they really have their eyes on someone that ends up available at #21.

denim_monger 03-31-2008 11:41 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
heres the Skins mock draft:

TRADE 'EM ALL AWAY

hahahahahaha

SC Skins Fan 03-31-2008 12:25 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=denim_monger;435836]heres the Skins mock draft:

TRADE 'EM ALL AWAY

hahahahahaha[/quote]

Once again you have graced us with your insightful commentary. Thanks for adding so much to the site.

Here are some other gems:

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]Portis is horribly overrated. The Skins paid him $50M... that's a joke.[/I][/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]Are you kidding me Jacobs is a flipping monster, didn't you see him trucking guys all year long? [B]He's a bruiser in Maddens.[/B] HE'S MY BOY![/I]

[I]NEXT![/I][/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]yer mamma[/I][/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]she likes it extra spicey, she sure orders pizza alot![/I][/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]thanks for reminding me your wife did just order a pizza[/I]

[I]special delivery extra sausage for Mrs. Angry!![/I][/quote]

And a couple of my favorites about how you went from a Bears fan to a Giants fan (i.e. from one Super Bowl team to the other).

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]how can i switch my bears helmet for my pic, check me takin a swig before church![/I][/quote]

[quote=denim_monger;435836][I]I switched after the Bears went to the bowl I knew they had peaked[/I]

[I]g-men all the way baby[/I]

[I]NEXT![/I][/quote]

J.Campbell 03-31-2008 03:55 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;435712]Marcus Monk is projected as a 6th or 7th round pick. "Stealing" him in the 3rd round ain't gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

Marcus Monk's stock is rising very fast. He had a great pro day. As of now he is projected to go the 4th round, but we have no 4th rounder.

Ok I can see how getting the two Atlanta picks is the problem. I'll add my second mock to the post later today(This one will have no trading picks).

Oh and Beasts of the NFC East. This is for depth and the fact that Vinny says the offensive line is an issue to focus on. They really can't keep healthy.

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2008 04:02 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
just a coincidence they were all from USC?

SKINSnCANES 03-31-2008 04:13 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=SKINSnCANES;435947]just a coincidence they were all from USC?[/quote]

the first three I mean

SeanTaylor21 03-31-2008 05:42 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;435712]Marcus Monk is projected as a 6th or 7th round pick. "Stealing" him in the 3rd round ain't gonna happen.[/QUOTE]

Well, we are talking about Snyderatto here, you never know what kind of dumb stuff they got up there sleeves.

Joe Ribbs BBQ 03-31-2008 05:47 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=denim_monger;435836]heres the Skins mock draft:

TRADE 'EM ALL AWAY

hahahahahaha[/QUOTE]

ugh, go away

J.Campbell 03-31-2008 08:28 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES;435947]just a coincidence they were all from USC?[/QUOTE]

Heh, yeah that was a coincidence. Anyway my second mock is done, please check it out and offer some more advice.

SeanTaylor21 03-31-2008 09:01 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=J.Campbell;436030]Heh, yeah that was a coincidence. Anyway my second mock is done, please check it out and offer some more advice.[/QUOTE]

Again, there is no way in hell Marcus Monk is going to get picked in the third round, and instead of using a pick on an unknown QB in the 7th round, why not take a risk on Dennis Dixon or Colt Brennan.

J.Campbell 03-31-2008 09:24 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=SeanTaylor21;436047]Again, there is no way in hell Marcus Monk is going to get picked in the third round, and instead of using a pick on an unknown QB in the 7th round, why not take a risk on Dennis Dixon or Colt Brennan.[/QUOTE]

Well...I got my info here [url=http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008WR.php]WalterFootball.com: 2008 Wide Receiver Rankings[/url]
They have him projected 4th, and they say his stock is rising.

And as for Brennan or Dixon, I'd rather take Dixon. I'll re-edit again tomorrow after hearing more opinions.

That Guy 04-01-2008 04:59 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
monk isn't going in the 3rd round... holy crap. he wasn't even a full timer in college, they ran most of the time,he only did 9 reps at the combine... and a 3rd rounder?

nuts. he's value in the 7th, maybe 6th, higher than that and its just hype.

That Guy 04-01-2008 05:03 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=Walter's Football] Mario Urrutia, Louisville
Height: 6-5. Weight: 232.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Combine 40 Time: 4.58.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.53.
Vertical: 35. Broad .
[B] Projected Round: 7.[/B]
Sluggish at the combine. No surprise here.

The Louisville coaching staff removed Mario Urrutia from the game after multiple unsportsmanlike penalties. The home crowd booed Urrutia every time he caught the ball.

Urrutia had seven receptions, 142 yards and two scores against Middle Tennessee State. However, what the box score doesn't show is at least two drops, including one easy touchdown catch.

Great size. Caught 53 passes for 929 yards and 6 touchdowns in 2006. Needs to improve his 40 time to be a [B]first-round lock[/B]. [/quote]

first round lock? do they ever update their info, or just the rankings? seems like a terrible site for information when they don't even care enough to keep it current.


I mean, they still have fred davis and bennet as the #1 and #2 TEs and keller as a round 2-3 pick. pollack in round 3? talk about not caring.

Dirtbag59 04-01-2008 11:30 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=That Guy;436127]monk isn't going in the 3rd round... holy crap. he wasn't even a full timer in college, they ran most of the time,he only did 9 reps at the combine... and a 3rd rounder?

nuts. he's value in the 7th, maybe 6th, higher than that and its just hype.[/quote]

I hope you're right. He seems to me like an interesting project, but spending a third round on is like playing russian roulette with a six shooter that has 5 bullets. If we take him in the 7th round then it's more like one bullet int he six shotoer.

If we're going to go with guys from Arkansas I would much rather take Felton, if he's available in the 5th round. Draft tek currently has him going in the early 5th so it's definately a possibility.

However as of today my guess is the Redskins will draft something like this.

1st - Merling/Harvey/Jackson - DE - Clemson/Florida/USC - Blache has been promised a Defensive Lineman early in the draft. And a guy like Merling has the ability to play DT and DE which is just what the Redskins were looking for since it would hypothetically allow them to move Merling inside on passing downs as well as allow Wilson to resume his role as an edge rusher.

2nd - Jordy Nelson - WR -Kansas State - This pick is a combination of Synder's desire to add a big WR and Cerrato's no WR with a 1st round grade. Plus the chance that he's projected to be an early 3rd round pick. I know some people are agaisnt this pick but personally I don't mind it at all anymore. I mean the guys a hard worker, had great production as a senior, and a strong showing at the Senior Bowl.

3rd - Mike McGlynn - G - Pitt - Most versitle Offensive Lineman in the draft. Also regarded as a pretty solid prospect that could end up as a 3rd round steal. Just don't expect him to become Steve Hutchinson.

3rd Comp - Someone from NC State - Either DaMario Pressley who has the ability to penetrate as a 3 technique or Dejuan Morgan, who is a relatively highly regarded FS that would allow Landry to move to SS if Reed goes down or allow Reed to stay at SS if god forbid Landry goes down.

Ironically Andre Woodson could also be availble at this point in the draft, and personally if they could get a value pick like Andre Woodson with this comp pick then I wouldn't mind it so much, granted he was once regarded as a Top 5 pick.

Other Picks that could be considered are as follows.

Tyllel Johnson - SS - Arkansas St - A highly regarded small school prospect
John David Booty - QB - USC - Chad Pennington type that could be effective in a WCO.
Kendall Langford - DE/DT - Hampton - Versatile small school prospect
Josh Johnson - QB - San Diego State - It's very possible that Smootsmacks BOY could get a look here.

5th Round - According to Drafttek (which is what I'm using to evaluate these picks) both Wallace Gilbery and Marcus Monk will still be available. It's also possible that a road grader like Felton could fall to this spot. If the Skins use the comp pick on a QB then I could easily see them going with Gillbery. Erik Ainge is also projected to be available at this point in the draft. Personally I wouldn't mind taking Ainge either because like Woodson, he was once considered a possible 1st Round Pick.

6th Round - Apparently someone's been reading my blog because the original pick here is Dennis Dixon (QB Oregon). If the Skins are serious about a QB and have gone this far without picking one then Dixon could very well be the pick. Chris McDuffie (OG Clemson) is also a possibility. Rudoph Hardie (DE Howard) might also be available with this pick. Addarious Bowman (WR Oklahoma State) would also be a great value pick at this point.

Also if the Skins are looking for a backup FB then Jacob Hester (RB/FB LSU) could be a pretty good pick, considering that this is the 6th round and by no means a replacement for Sellers.

Lionel Dotson (DT Arizona) is also projected to be availble so if the Redskisn still feel the need for a penetrating DT then this could very well be the pick. Also look for the Skins to take a look at Corey Lynch, the FS from Appalachian State.

7th Round - Well at this point there aren't a whole lot of players that I recognize. Wouldn't mind seeing Crummey (G Maryland) get a chance like Stephon Heyer got here last year, especially if we've only drafted one Offensive Lineman. Unlike Heyer Crummey seems to have a slightly higher probability of getting drafted even if it is only in the 7th round.

Speaking of Maryland, Joey Haynos (TE Maryland) could also be a good pick here. Local kid with huge size. Just consider him the Anthony Mix of TE's. Also had a pretty good year last year for a 7th round TE with ~300 yards recieving.

Spencer Larson was a productive ILB at Arizona so the Redskins could also consider taking him. Bernard Morris would be the best QB available in 7th round so if the Skin's haven't taken a QB yet then Morris could very well be the pick. Marcus Dixon (DE/DT Hamton) also looks like he could be available.

SmootSmack 04-02-2008 01:25 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I think Malcolm Kelly in the first round and trading up into the 2nd for Campbell or Balmer is a possibility.

What I would do though...

1st round: Merling or Balmer
2nd round: Chilo Rachal
3rd round: maybe Tony Hill? or McGlynn
3rd round: Paul Hubbard
5th round: Antwaun Molden

and then just fill out the roster

I still really like Cason, but I don't know where he fits for us in the grand scheme of our draft

30gut 04-03-2008 06:48 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;436576]I think Malcolm Kelly in the first round and trading up into the 2nd for Campbell or Balmer is a possibility.

1st round: Merling or Balmer
2nd round: Chilo Rachal
3rd round: maybe Tony Hill? or McGlynn
3rd round: Paul Hubbard
5th round: Antwaun Molden
[/QUOTE]

SmootSmack
i like the idea of moving up in the second to get Calias Campbell, but i would prefer Devin Thomas to Malcom Kelly as a 1st round receiver

-Imo the best DEs will be gone by the 21st pick and b/c Blache groomed our current DTs and places a 'premium' on cornerbacks i think its unlikely that we take DT in the 1st round

Anyway my picks...

1st BA-DB (Hopefully Mike Jenkins will still be there) if not [B]Aqib Talib/ Antoine Cason [/B]or even the 'DRC'
[url]http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Videos/NFL_Draft_and_Combine/Highlight_Videos/DB/DB_Antoine_Cason_Highlight_-_3-4-08.aspx[/url]

[url]http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media_library/Videos/NFL_Draft_and_Combine/Highlight_Videos/DB/DB_Aqib_Talib_Highlight_-_3-4-08.aspx[/url]

2nd DE [B]Lawrence Jackson / Calias Campbell[/B]

3rd WR [B]Will Franklin[/B]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/will-franklin?id=1022]NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Will Franklin[/url]

[url]http://missouri.rivals.com/video.asp?section=football&pkey=36335&vidtype=college&vidid=33274[/url]


3rd(c) [B]OL John Greco/Oniel Cousins[/B]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/john-greco?id=238]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - John Greco[/url]

[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/oniel-cousins?id=1260]NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Oniel Cousins[/url]

5th OLB [B]Gary Guyton[/B] (insurance/depth for Rocky)
[url=http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/gary-guyton?id=1722]NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Gary Guyton[/url]

6th S [B]Corey Lynch[/B]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/corey-lynch?id=4273]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - Corey Lynch[/url]
[url=http://youtube.com/watch?v=AQZqkcubYjQ]YouTube - Corey Lynch #47[/url]

7th OL/C [B]Drew Miller[/B]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/drew-miller?id=4285]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - Drew Miller[/url]

7th WR [B]Chaz Schilens[/B]
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=14632]Chaz*Schilens, WR, San Diego State - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3w92pPUDL8]YouTube - Chaz Schilens Highlights San Diego State[/url]


7th DT [B]George Chukwu[/B]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/george-chukwu?id=4225]NFL Events: Draft Player Profiles - George Chukwu[/url]



I know doing this internet draft scouting is a waste of time but it sure is fun:food-smil

SeanTaylor21 04-03-2008 06:36 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=30gut;436943]
7th WR [B]Chaz Schilens[/B]
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=14632]Chaz*Schilens, WR, San Diego State - 2008 NFL Draft Scout Profile, Powered by The SportsXchange[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3w92pPUDL8]YouTube - Chaz Schilens Highlights San Diego State[/url]
[/QUOTE]

Chaz showed the ability to get YAC's, and I believe he will be a real steal in the draft just a Marques Colston was.

J.Campbell 04-03-2008 07:43 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
Alright everyone, I completed my third mock. I moved Monk to 7th and added Dixon as 5th round QB. Also I added an OLB in 7th round as I agree with 30gut that there needs to be someone to replace rocky if he is injured.

jsarno 04-03-2008 07:47 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=J.Campbell;435942][b]Marcus Monk's stock is rising very fast. He had a great pro day. As of now he is projected to go the 4th round, but we have no 4th rounder.[/b]

Ok I can see how getting the two Atlanta picks is the problem. I'll add my second mock to the post later today(This one will have no trading picks).

Oh and Beasts of the NFC East. This is for depth and the fact that Vinny says the offensive line is an issue to focus on. They really can't keep healthy.[/QUOTE]

You are correct sir. Some even have him as high as a late 3rd. Not sure that will happen with his injury issue, but I am all for going after him if we don't go after Limas Sweed.

BeastsoftheNFCeast 04-03-2008 08:02 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I don't understand why we would get a Gaurd in the 1st round, generally when you get a gaurd that high, they start immediately, and we have solid gaurds already.

Dirtbag59 04-03-2008 11:21 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=BeastsoftheNFCeast;437279]I don't understand why we would get a Gaurd in the 1st round, generally when you get a gaurd that high, they start immediately, and we have solid gaurds already.[/quote]

In our cae it's a combination of best player available, an aging offensive line that has had problems with injuries, the fact that we rely heavily on the running game and the offensive line as a whole is just as important as the running back, and the versatility to play guard and tackle.

30gut 04-04-2008 08:48 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=jsarno;437276] Not sure that will happen with his injury issue, but I am all for going after him if we don't go after Limas Sweed.[/QUOTE]

There are many receivers available that are faster and had better college production and don't have recurring knee issues.

Other than the last name, why are people so in love with this guy?

GTripp0012 04-04-2008 09:06 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I don't think we will have a chance at Limas Sweed, but he's good value at pick # 51.

RMSkins 04-04-2008 02:55 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
1st RD: Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2nd RD: Lawrence Jackson DE USC
3rd RD: Roy Schuening OG Oregon St.
3rd RD: Will Franklin WR Missouri
5th RD: Gary Guyton OLB Georgia Tech
6th RD: David Roach S TCU
7th RD: Pedro Sosa OL Rutgers
7th RD: Maurice Murray DT New Mexico St.

SeanTaylor21 04-04-2008 06:37 PM

Re: Second mock done!
 
[QUOTE=J.Campbell;435634]Alright guys, here is my second mock. This one is with no trading picks.


5. Dennis Dixon [B]QB[/B], 6-3, 195 pounds, Oregon



Ok I moved Marcus Monk to 7th, Added Dixon as 5th round QB.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that Dennis Dixon will be picked in the fifth round, he will be probably late sixth or seven round pick, because of his knee.

J.Campbell 04-05-2008 09:48 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[QUOTE=RMSkins;437542]1st RD: Aqib Talib CB Kansas
2nd RD: Lawrence Jackson DE USC
3rd RD: Roy Schuening OG Oregon St.
3rd RD: Will Franklin WR Missouri
5th RD: Gary Guyton OLB Georgia Tech
6th RD: David Roach S TCU
7th RD: Pedro Sosa OL Rutgers
7th RD: Maurice Murray DT New Mexico St.[/QUOTE]

We have a 3'rd 7th rounder as well. I think Talib will be picked up earlier by like 2 picks

RMSkins 04-05-2008 10:36 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
[quote=J.Campbell;437791]We have a 3'rd 7th rounder as well. I think Talib will be picked up earlier by like 2 picks[/quote]
Really? I wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

singlewing 04-06-2008 10:49 AM

Re: My first mock draft
 
I like your draft. Maybe we could add a kevin faulk-type back to bring in on passing downs e.g. anthony alridge.

SeanTaylor21 04-06-2008 04:14 PM

Re: My first mock draft
 
"'Phenomenal' Dixon is sharp in NFL workout
Back from surgery, Dennis Dixon shows scouts why his stock could rise in the draft"
[url=http://www.oregonlive.com/ducksfootball/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/120727953044330.xml&coll=7]'Phenomenal' Dixon is sharp in NFL workout - OregonLive.com[/url]


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