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NFL Network is airing one of their top 10 countdowns based on the worst college to pro coaches in the history of the league. Now the question is where will Spurrier come in? Personally I think hes going to be in the top 3, but for me my top college coaching flop will have to be Jimmy Johnson. Anyone that leads the Cowboys to two Super Bowl titles and leaves them primed for a third is a terrible coach in my book.

Will be interesting to see if they rank Butch Davis among the top 10, especially considering his history with the Network.

I think that if anything the guys who make the list will be Bobby Petrino, Steve Spurrier, Lou Holtz, Nick Saban, Dennis Ericson, Mike Riley, Butch Davis, and Rich Brooks.

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Bobby Petrino has got to take the #1 spot. As for Jimmy Johnson, wasn't he forced out? Plus you can't possibly be a flop if you win two Super Bowls!

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[quote=saden1;439430]Bobby Petrino has got to take the #1 spot. As for Jimmy Johnson, wasn't he forced out? Plus you can't possibly be a flop if you win two Super Bowls![/quote]

But he won them for the Cowboys. To me thats unforgiveable.

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Curious about Campo. I know he won a SB in his first year, but he failed horribly.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;439427]NFL Network is airing one of their top 10 countdowns based on the worst college to pro coaches in the history of the league. Now the question is where will Spurrier come in? Personally I think hes going to be in the top 3, but for me my top college coaching flop will have to be Jimmy Johnson. Anyone that leads the Cowboys to two Super Bowl titles and leaves them primed for a third is a terrible coach in my book.

Will be interesting to see if they rank Butch Davis among the top 10, especially considering his history with the Network.

I think that if anything the guys who make the list will be Bobby Petrino, Steve Spurrier, Lou Holtz, Nick Saban, Dennis Ericson, Mike Riley, Butch Davis, and Rich Brooks.[/quote]


Seriously, Jimmy Johnson??? He didn't leave....he was kind of forced out by Jerry. Jerry thought he could do what Jimmy did, which was talent evaluation, and after Switzer one a superbowl with Jimmys players, Jimmys offense, Jimmy's playbook her decided to leave also. That is just cowboy hating if you say Jimmy Johnson was a FLOP as an NFL coach. He is one of the best talent evaluaters that was in the NFL.

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[quote=Daseal;439456]Curious about Campo. I know he won a SB in his first year, but he failed horribly.[/quote]

You must be thinking of Switzer.

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Steve Spurier should be on this list. High..on the list.

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Shit, yeah. Switzer. Don't warpath when you first wakeup.

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;439427]NFL Network is airing one of their top 10 countdowns based on the worst college to pro coaches in the history of the league. Now the question is where will Spurrier come in? Personally I think hes going to be in the top 3, but for me my top college coaching flop will have to be Jimmy Johnson. Anyone that leads the Cowboys to two Super Bowl titles and leaves them primed for a third is a terrible coach in my book.

Will be interesting to see if they rank Butch Davis among the top 10, especially considering his history with the Network.

I think that if anything the guys who make the list will be Bobby Petrino, Steve Spurrier, Lou Holtz, Nick Saban, Dennis Ericson, Mike Riley, Butch Davis, and Rich Brooks.[/QUOTE]

Once again, your sarcasm is flying over some people's heads.

Anyhow, good list. Where does Butch Davis fall here?

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I don't know that anyone could have as bad a 2nd year as the ole ball coach did w/our beloved Skins. His first year was acceptable, but the team then nosedived in the 2nd half of the 03 season w/T. Hassellback putting up a 0 passer rating v. Dallas.

When I think about it, those times seem thankfully like light years ago. If ever you think Joe Gibbs didn't do a good job in his 2nd stint, watch some tape of the 2nd half of the season of the 03 Skins, that team totally tanked. Gibbs took over the next year & rebuilt this franchise.

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Freddy, I don't care who the coach is, when your starting QB is Tim Hasselbeck, you're screwed. Of course the same can be said for Shany Matthews and Waffle or whatever his name was.

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Could somebody please post the order in which NFL Network had them ranked?

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If I had to guess, I'd say Petrino is first, followed by Spurrier, and then Nick Saban. Butch Davis is probably top five, Erickson is probably top seven, and the other guys I think i'm too young to know about considering I don't know who they are. I'm putting Petrino first because the man was such a colossal failure that he left 13 games into his first season as the coach, I think he's the first college coach to do something like that. All the other coaches at least stayed on a full season.

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Pete Carroll has to be mentioned here too. If not for his failure in NFL coaching then for his contrasting success when he left the NFL for USC. I think this means that he just doesn't get the pro game at all.

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I'd give the top spot to Saban just because of how much of an a-hole he is.

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Anyone remember Darryl Rogers, Lions coach back in the day?

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at least saban did stay two years unlike patrino who left 12 games into last season.
jimmy johnson is the best nfl coach ever to go into the nfl.he had an asshole as an owner and still won 2 superbowls.

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Our man Spurrier was number 3. Oh, and that coach out of Dallas didn't even place. Not Johnson, the other one.

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[QUOTE=angryssg;439928]Our man Spurrier was number 3. Oh, and that coach out of Dallas didn't even place. Not Johnson, the other one.[/QUOTE]

You gonna post the order?

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[quote=SmootSmack;439930]You gonna post the order?[/quote]

I might if I get a chance to see it but I bet that with Spurrier they showed a lot of Ramsey getting sacked. Maybe a quote from Wilbon saying something like "He didn't protect the QB and he didn't run the ball."

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[quote=saden1;439430]Bobby [B]Petrino has got to take the #1 spot[/B]. As for Jimmy Johnson, wasn't he forced out? Plus you can't possibly be a flop if you win two Super Bowls![/quote]

Great prediction, he did.

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I was watching the "America's Game" series on NFL Network the other night on the '93 Cowboys. Jimmy Johnson was one of the three interviewees, and he said that immediately after winning the Super Bowl he wasn't sure if he wanted to come back. He said that he never coached anywere longer than five straight years, and thought it might be time to move on. A night at a bar drinking with Jerry Jones got pretty heated, and apparently things were said which helped Johnson out the door. Officially, it was a mutual parting.

Good thing too -- the 'chips might have won two more in a row if he'd stayed. As much as I hate to admit it, they had a helluva team.

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[quote=Beemnseven;439943]I was watching the "America's Game" series on NFL Network the other night on the '93 Cowboys. Jimmy Johnson was one of the three interviewees, and he said that immediately after winning the Super Bowl he wasn't sure if he wanted to come back. He said that he never coached anywere longer than five straight years, and thought it might be time to move on. A night at a bar drinking with Jerry Jones got pretty heated, and apparently things were said which helped Johnson out the door. Officially, it was a mutual parting.

Good thing too -- the 'chips might have won two more in a row if he'd stayed. As much as I hate to admit it, they had a helluva team.[/quote]


Considering Johnsons philosophy on getting young this makes alot of sense. He knew how to build a team, but not how to rebuild it. Could you honestly see him getting rid of the tripplets for youth had he stayed longer (a few more seasons)? According to his ideals on youth he would have had to. He was too close to his stars for that IMO (based on player commentary).

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Will someone please post the results??

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Yeah, I'm dying to know this list!

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I looked, and couldn't find the list on the net. I know that Spurrier came in 3rd, or 4th on the list. I caught part of it while mindlessly filpping through channels. It comes on today (Apr 16th) at 5:30 again. I'll try to catch it and post the list, if nobody finds it.

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Okay I saw it last night before I dosed off. I'll edit this post later to compile a list but lets see. I remember Spurrier was definately 3. There were two Patriot coaches. One being Pete Carroll and the other being some guy who used to coach at Syracuse. Lou Holtz was #2. Most of the coaches were criticized for being to ra ra. One of the reporters wanted to fight Nick Saban. Another from Houston looked like an idiot. And the rest were fine.

This list is loosely based on what I remember, but the top 3 are 100% correct.
10.
9. Pete Caroll - Jets/Patriots
8. Dick MacPherson - Patriots
7. Nick Saban - Dolphins
6. Dennis Ericson - Seahawks/49ers
5. Bill Peterson - Oilers
4. Bud Wilkonson - Cardinals
3. Steve Spurrier - Redskins
2. Lou Holtz - Jets
1. Bobby Petrino - Falcons

I personally thought Bill Peterson was the most interesting one

([url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Peterson]Bill Peterson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url] "He is also known as the "Coach of Coaches", having tutored such coaches as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gibbs"]Joe Gibbs[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Parcells"]Bill Parcells[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Bowden"]Bobby Bowden[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_James"]Don James[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Henning"]Dan Henning[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Meyer"]Ken Meyer[/URL]")

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I saw the title on my DirecTV guide and it looks like they changed the title of this to "Top Ten Coaches Who Belonged in College"

I thought it was "Top Ten Coaching Flops" when they promo'ed it. Maybe someone caught feelings and asked for them to use a euphemism.

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[quote=Angry;439928]Our man Spurrier was number 3. Oh, and that coach out of Dallas didn't even place. Not Johnson, the other one.[/quote]

he should'nt.hell,he won a superbowl.