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jamf 05-04-2008 03:42 PM

Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3380976]ESPN - Redskins draft pick Davis a no-show at practice - NFL[/url]

Hopefully this isn't anything serious.

I also posted a link in the fred davis profile thread because I wasn't able to create a new thread for a little while...

skinsfan_nn 05-04-2008 04:20 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Not a very good start. I overslept, are you five and need a babysitter.....damn son buy an alarm clock. In the dog house he goes, I bet that doesn't happen again! :doh:

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=35683]Mini-Camp Blog: Sunday, May 4[/url]

11:33 a.m. ET

Fred Davis Update II

Jim Zorn met with Fred Davis shortly after Sunday's practice. The former USC tight end and second-round draft pick overslept on Sunday morning, which is why he missed the practice, team officials said.

Earlier, Zorn stressed that Davis and other young players need to be more responsible.

"That's a young guy--let's [remember to] set the alarm," Zorn said. "You can call for a wake-up call. Some of these guys are young enough--I am serious--to not even understand that.

"He thought maybe someone else was going to wake him up, but he will learn."

jsarno 05-04-2008 04:32 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
How dumb. 1st impressions are lasting ones there Mr. Davis.

On the flip side...I do not think they should show up to practice until they have a contract. But that's just me I guess.

Longtimefan 05-04-2008 04:33 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[QUOTE=jamf;446702][url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3380976]ESPN - Redskins draft pick Davis a no-show at practice - NFL[/url]

Hopefully this isn't anything serious.

I also posted a link in the fred davis profile thread because I wasn't able to create a new thread for a little while...[/QUOTE]


I'm glad his situation was not something more serious. Not a good way to start out, the young man must learn to be more responsible. Let's hope it's just a one time thing that will never happen again.

Redskin Warrior 05-04-2008 05:10 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Hey y'all might be a little hard on Mr. Davis it's not like he was up partying the night before and also we all have overslept before so to call some stupid or dumb is uncalled for IMO.

skinsfan_nn 05-04-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;446720]Hey y'all might be a little hard on Mr. Davis it's not like he was up partying the night before and also we all have overslept before so to call some stupid or dumb is uncalled for IMO.[/quote]

I little hard on him? His very first mini camp and the boy oversleeps and misses practice are you kidding, thats a HUGE NO NO.....you better hope that happens to some other ROOKIE, not the guy in the mirror!

Sounds like you have some inside on what he did last night, how would you know if he was out partying or not? Where you with him?

I think anyone ragging on him with some name calling is dead on and if he weren't to like it tuff shit it's well deserved. This is the NFL, hes not back at college as he is finding out now the hard way.

MPNRedskins 05-04-2008 05:27 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
It's a mistake. The Vets will probably joke with him about it for a while. I'd laugh my ass off if I saw Davis wear a clock around his neck like Flava Flav for the rest of Training Camp. :laughing- And if any Redskins player sees this, I take credit for it. Give credit where credit is due!

NYCskinfan82 05-04-2008 05:55 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
We've all played football at sometime be it in the street, play ground peewee league, HS and or College and to over sleep at the PRO level, what i wouldn't give to have enough talent to even be considered to play at the PRO level, buy a F#@king alarm clock Fred Davis

redwagonskins 05-04-2008 05:56 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[QUOTE=Redskin Warrior;446720]Hey y'all might be a little hard on Mr. Davis it's not like he was up partying the night before and also we all have overslept before so to call some stupid or dumb is uncalled for IMO.[/QUOTE]

A little hard? His entire job pretty much consisted of waking up for three consecutive days. That's all. I guess 2 out of 3 ain't too bad. If he misses a team flight/bus/train this year, I guess you'll be saying no to be too hard on the guy. Fair enough. A guy works for me and misses his third day of work because he's "too young" to set an alarm clock, there is no fourth day. I'd say he's lucky to be a 2nd round NFL draft pick and not an ordinary Joe.

itvnetop 05-04-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I really hope Fred isn't following in the footsteps of fellow Trojan, Mike Williams. Please Fred, let this be it!

TheMalcolmConnection 05-04-2008 06:17 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I agree. Before I start getting all up in arms over it, let's see if it's a trend...

If not, oh well. it's done.

724Skinsfan 05-04-2008 08:19 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
A liitle dissappointed at first but now what's done is done. Let's try to be a little more accountable now that your in the Big League, Fred.

Daseal 05-04-2008 09:34 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Who here hasn't overslept for something? It was probably just a mistake. Maybe he power blinked, maybe his alarm clock turned off, etc. Now days it's easy to mix up AM/PM on your clock. It happens, unfortunately.

SeanTaylor21 05-04-2008 09:36 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
He better be trying extra hard during training camp to get out of the doghouse.

drew54 05-04-2008 10:07 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
This should make his contract negotiations a snap.

Ruhskins 05-04-2008 10:42 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Hey it could be worst, he could be sitting out b/c of contract dispute. While it is not a good way to start things out, worst things could happen.

MTK 05-04-2008 11:27 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Hopefully just a one time innocent mistake.

Larry Michael is Satan 05-05-2008 12:08 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Wait a minute. The knock on him in the draft was that he was lazy and missed team meetings, I wish I could find the exact quote. Good to see that concern was completely off base. Yeah, we've all overslept, but this was what, his second day on the job? In the NFL? Maybe Tyler Ecker tripped the fuse to his clock/radio.

saden1 05-05-2008 12:09 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I oversleep all the time so I forgive him.

-The Forgiver

djnemo65 05-05-2008 02:40 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Come on, there is no rookie in the history of the league stupid enough to intentionally miss their first practice. My point being that it is safe to assume this was just a stupid foul up on Davis's part and not indicative of a lack of respect for hard work anything like that. If anything he has a chip on his shoulder now that should motivate him to work even harder.

Luxorreb 05-05-2008 04:09 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I say trade him to Dallas!
Just kidding. His contract will suffer, perhaps not money, but there will be a stipulation about missing meetings, etc. Guaranteed! Hopefully he'll come around. Don't know about yall, but I'd never be late for 2nd or 3rd day of work. Not a big deal yet. We'll see if he shows up for 'voluntary' OTAs...

Beemnseven 05-05-2008 07:14 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I don't know ... one of my first days on the job, and I oversleep? Being in the NFL would cause me to LOSE sleep.

Remember, the knock on this guy at USC was the he's not a hard worker, and didn't take his responsibilities seriously. So far, he's living up to his reputation.

Not good.

KB24 05-05-2008 08:33 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Man, this had better be an isolated incident. I have VERY LOW tolerance for irresponsibility.

riggins44 05-05-2008 09:02 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I wasn't crazy about his selection to begin with, but was willing to give him
a chance. This doesn't give me warm fuzzies about the kid.

Davis needs to realize this isn't college and there is not guaranteed
starting or roster spot. There are a lot of guys will to take his spot.

chrisl4064 05-05-2008 09:18 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
We had a coworker of mine oversleep on his first day. New callsign: Sleepy, been with him for 2 years.

SC Skins Fan 05-05-2008 09:21 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;446782]Wait a minute. The knock on him in the draft was that he was lazy and missed team meetings, I wish I could find the exact quote. Good to see that concern was completely off base. Yeah, we've all overslept, but this was what, his second day on the job? In the NFL? [b]Maybe Tyler Ecker tripped the fuse to his clock/radio.[/b][/quote]

And pulled his groin in the process. Has that guy ever made it on the field?

PSUSkinsFan21 05-05-2008 09:36 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I'll never forget the first time I booked a cruise vacation. I was sure that I set both my wife's and my alarm clocks right. Apparently I didn't, and we missed our 7:00 am flight. Spent the whole day at the airport panicking that we'd miss the boat. Finally got the last possible flight and made it to the ship literally 5 minutes before it set sail. Point is, that was incredibly important to me at the time and could have meant thousands of dollars lost to me. Everyone makes mistakes........That said, I've never overslept for a flight again because I double and triple check the alarm clocks and set our cell phone alarms too in case the power goes out. So, if this is a one-time incident, I understand. If he does it again, I would not accept ANY excuse.

Defensewins 05-05-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
He was still on west coast time. It was 4am on his clock.
I hope the person that said he has a reputation of missing meetings at USC was kidding. If so, this kids needs to grow up fast or he brings his mommy to camp to wake him and dress him.

Schneed10 05-05-2008 11:04 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
At this point, it's a red flag - something to keep an eye on. If he's a boy scout from here on in then I've got no beef. But I'm definitely watching him.

He ought to take one thing to heart though: he's not going to make much money in this league if he's got to battle both the snooze button AND Chris Cooley. One is already daunting enough.

skinsfan69 05-05-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[quote=Larry Michael is Satan;446782]Wait a minute. The knock on him in the draft was that he was lazy and missed team meetings, I wish I could find the exact quote. Good to see that concern was completely off base. Yeah, we've all overslept, but this was what, his second day on the job? In the NFL? Maybe Tyler Ecker tripped the fuse to his clock/radio.[/quote]

Thank you!! I remember Mike Mayock from NFL Network saying the reason Davis fell into the 2nd round was because of work habits and he was always late for team meetings. I'd be willing to bet that Davis is one of those guys who was good enough to get by without working hard. Kind of like Anthony Montgomery when he first got here. Well this kind of crap isn't going to fly in the NFL. Who the hell oversleeps and misses the whole practice?? What a dumb ass. I already don't like this guy or the draft pick.

freddyg12 05-05-2008 11:48 AM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[quote=skinsfan69;446806]Thank you!! I remember Mike Mayock from NFL Network saying the reason Davis fell into the 2nd round was because of work habits and he was always late for team meetings. I'd be willing to bet that Davis is one of those guys who was good enough to get by without working hard. Kind of like Anthony Montgomery when he first got here. Well this kind of crap isn't going to fly in the NFL. Who the hell oversleeps and misses the whole practice?? What a dumb ass. I already don't like this guy or the draft pick.[/quote]

I won't go that far, but of the 3 2nd round picks, his was the one I felt might've been better used on another position, and at the time I wasn't aware of his rep at usc. If he's going to be a problem & is only a 2nd string TE, you have to question the overall "value" of the pick.

It's way too early to make any judgements about him, but he's definitely drawn some negative attention very quickly. On a positive note, hopefully this is his wake up call (pun intended) to nfl life, where every mistake you make will be talked about in chat rooms like ours!

GMScud 05-05-2008 12:44 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Hopefully he'll learn quickly. I know he wasn't the hardest worker at USC, but he could slack off there and still be one of the best players on the team. Not the case in the NFL, plus there's big big bucks riding on it now. I imagine some of the vets and certainly the coaching staff will get in his ear. Fortunately he doesn't have legal red flags. If it's just a matter of simple laziness, hopefully the money that comes with being a NFL player will help get rid of that. Hopefully.

TenandSix:Unacceptable 05-05-2008 01:12 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
I'd probably suspend him for the year if he does it again.

riggins44 05-05-2008 01:44 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Okay, I can see oversleeping and missing the first practice. My question is why didn't he wake up or someone find him in time for afternoon session?

There is a lot of time missing that no one is talking about.

SC Skins Fan 05-05-2008 01:52 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[quote=riggins44;446824]Okay, I can see oversleeping and missing the first practice. My question is why didn't he wake up or someone find him in time for afternoon session?

There is a lot of time missing that no one is talking about.[/quote]

I think they might have only gone for one session yesterday. Not positive about that, but I think there were only five minicamp practices (2 Fri, 2 Sat, 1 Sunday)

riggins44 05-05-2008 02:15 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Just got this from Clayton's article on espn.com.

"5. No ZZZs with Zorn

New Redskins coach Jim Zorn had the most entertaining minicamp. Jason Campbell seems to be responding to Zorn's unique coaching methods. Clinton Portis, in his best shape as a Redskin, almost beat safety LeRon Landry in a match race. Landry ran a 4.35 40 coming out of college, but Portis wanted to challenge him. Then there was second-round pick Fred Davis. He couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up. So he went to the desk of the hotel and asked for a different room. He slept until 11 a.m., and the team couldn't find him because he wasn't in the right room. Zorn wants his players alert -- but Fred, tell the roommate to shut up and don't forget the wakeup call."

Riggo44 05-05-2008 02:21 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
What a Dum ass! Dude slept in on the 3rd day! I haven’t overslept and missed something important sense I was in the 7th grade. All I can say is I sure hope this isn't the start of things to come.

MTK 05-05-2008 03:00 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
Sounds like a dumb mistake. He gets a pass for this one but he better get his priorities straight real quick.

riggins44 05-05-2008 03:23 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
If his roommate wouldn't shut up, then why didn't he kick him out the room?

Paintrain 05-05-2008 04:11 PM

Re: Fred Davis a No Show at Practice
 
[QUOTE=riggins44;446829]Just got this from Clayton's article on espn.com.

"5. No ZZZs with Zorn

New Redskins coach Jim Zorn had the most entertaining minicamp. Jason Campbell seems to be responding to Zorn's unique coaching methods. Clinton Portis, in his best shape as a Redskin, almost beat safety LeRon Landry in a match race. Landry ran a 4.35 40 coming out of college, but Portis wanted to challenge him. Then there was second-round pick Fred Davis. [b]He couldn't sleep Saturday night because his roommate wouldn't shut up. So he went to the desk of the hotel and asked for a different room. He slept until 11 a.m., and the team couldn't find him because he wasn't in the right room.[/b] Zorn wants his players alert -- but Fred, tell the roommate to shut up and don't forget the wakeup call."[/QUOTE]
That's hilarious. Only the Redskins, right? Of all that happened this weekend (Harrison alleged in a shooting, Micheal Boley arrested for assault, Ced Benson with his BWI arrest) oversleeping is nothing. It'll cost him a few hundred thousand in his contract, but he will be fine.


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