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hagams 05-14-2008 09:00 AM

J. Hardy Beats Dad, Pulls Gun.
 
Came across this, and didn't see it posted anywhere else. Talk about getting off on the wrong foot....

Link Below.

[url=http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/24600869/]Bills WR reportedly beat up his dad, pulled gun - NFL - MSNBC.com[/url]

SC Skins Fan 05-14-2008 09:03 AM

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Wow. Guess those pre-draft questions about his character are coming quickly to the fore.

Longtimefan 05-14-2008 09:14 AM

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Times are truly changing. If I had even thought about pulling a weapon of any kind on my Dad, there would have been two sad days, my funeral, and his trial.

Fortunately for him, his Dad does not want to pursue the issue.

ArtMonkDrillz 05-14-2008 09:21 AM

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[QUOTE=Longtimefan;448339]Times are truly changing. If I had even thought about pulling a weapon of any kind on my Dad, there would have been two sad days, my funeral, and his trial.

Fortunately for him, his Dad does not want to pursue the issue.[/QUOTE]Like Marvin Gay?

Too soon?

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-14-2008 09:28 AM

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;448341]Like Marvin Gay?

Too soon?[/QUOTE]

too soon

MonkFan4Life 05-14-2008 09:34 AM

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[B][quote=Longtimefan;448339]Times are truly changing. If I had even thought about pulling a weapon of any kind on my Dad, there would have been two sad days, [I]my funeral, and his trial[/I].[/B]

Fortunately for him, his Dad does not want to pursue the issue.[/quote]

OH MY GOD !!!!!!

I AM CRYING OVER HERE !!!!!!!

djnemo65 05-14-2008 10:56 AM

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Well I don't know want to make any excuses, the way that Hardy's Dad describes the situation makes me wonder if he isn't showing up with his hand out now that the son is rich. It doesn't sound like they were arguing over balls and strikes in a game of backyard whiffle ball. He says himself that James is angry that he spent time in jail when he was "young," which sounds like an overly delicate way of putting it to me.

But I am just guessing here.

mooby 05-14-2008 11:54 AM

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Yeah I gotta say this sounds fishy to me as well, if my dad was a convicted drug offender who all of a sudden started caring when I get drafted into the NFL I'd probably be mad at him too. He's coming across as a deadbeat dad to me. And I can't remember where I read this yesterday but in one of these articles talking about it they said that the gun was bought and registered last year by Hardy, so it's ok for him to carry a weapon.

Stuck in TX 05-14-2008 11:58 AM

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If he cant respect his own father, how can he respect a coach? I would put him on the practice squad for a season to teach him about how lack of respect can get you nowhere.

mooby 05-14-2008 12:09 PM

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[quote=Stuck in TX;448389]If he cant respect his own father, how can he respect a coach? I would put him on the practice squad for a season to teach him about how lack of respect can get you nowhere.[/quote]

Would you respect your father if he was a deadbeat dad who never gave a shit? Just sayin.

And besides, if he was put on the practice squad he'd be snatched up immediately by another team, you don't put rookie second round draft picks that are expected to be starters on the PS.

Stuck in TX 05-14-2008 01:04 PM

Re: J. Hardy Beats Dad, Pulls Gun.
 
[QUOTE=mooby;448396]Would you respect your father if he was a deadbeat dad who never gave a shit? Just sayin.

And besides, if he was put on the practice squad he'd be snatched up immediately by another team, you don't put rookie second round draft picks that are expected to be starters on the PS.[/QUOTE]

I didnt realize that when put on the PS, the team relinquishes rights to the player and he is up for grabs. my bad. And I wasnt suggesting leaving him there, but putting him there for a season as punishment. As far as the deadbeat dad goes, its a free country. He can go anywhere. That is no excuse for pulling a gun on him. If he truly is a deadbeat dad, he has more problems than he needs. His son should take his newfound fame and fortune and do something positive.

prinzeofmoval 05-16-2008 12:46 AM

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[QUOTE=Stuck in TX;448389]If he cant respect his own father, how can he respect a coach? I would put him on the practice squad for a season to teach him about how lack of respect can get you nowhere.[/QUOTE]

Okay i guess you never met my dad..Stuck Meet Sh*t for brains..I wanna know why he pulled the gun or how the fight started. Stupid if you asked me but my dad was a douche also

jsarno 05-16-2008 01:50 AM

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[QUOTE=Stuck in TX;448389]If he cant respect his own father, how can he respect a coach? I would put him on the practice squad for a season to teach him about how lack of respect can get you nowhere.[/QUOTE]

We really don't know the whole story.
I was abused for many years, and it wasn't until I took matters into my own hands when I was 18 that it finally stopped. We have no clue what Hardy's father put him through.
If it is just an anger issue, then shame on Hardy. If Hardy's father was abusive then he deserved what he got. We are too quick to judge people here, sometimes I am just as guilty with that, but we need to understand there are two sides to the story.
Don't think it's OK to hit your father for any reason? Be abused for 18 years and see what you think.

Big30 05-16-2008 02:23 AM

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Just another player cut from the mold of Pac Man Chris Henry and Tank Johnson all wasting god given talent and acting a complete fool

NYCskinfan82 05-16-2008 05:36 AM

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Now this is why athlete's go and live in gated communities.

SmootSmack 05-16-2008 07:12 AM

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[QUOTE=prinzeofmoval;448755]Okay i guess you never met my dad..[B]Stuck Meet Sh*t for brains[/B]..I wanna know why he pulled the gun or how the fight started. Stupid if you asked me but my dad was a douche also[/QUOTE]

That was pretty uncalled for (unless you're talking about your dad in which case...I'm not a moderator for your family).

As for the Hardy situation, we don't know the whole story. If I were to guess, some pent up emotions were released and things got heated. And Hardy's dad decided not to press any charges after realizing that his son is about to get PAID, and it would behoove the dad to stay on his good side.

That Guy 05-16-2008 03:37 PM

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there's still no reason to pull a gun unless you plan on using it... and if he was, then he's really f'ing stupid.

regardless of how douchey his father may be, he didn't have to be there and he had no reason to pull a gun. i doubt his father is built like a linebacker or trying to kill him (which is the only real reason to pull a gun).

Dirtbag59 05-17-2008 10:47 PM

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[quote=That Guy;448866]there's still no reason to pull a gun unless you plan on using it... and if he was, then he's really f'ing stupid.

regardless of how douchey his father may be, he didn't have to be there and he had no reason to pull a gun. i doubt his father is built like a linebacker or trying to kill him (which is the only real reason to pull a gun).[/quote]

Well in that case the gun was used for intimidation purposes. I actually wanted to give Hardy the benefit of the doubt when it came to the incident with his girlfriend since I came away with a good impression after seeing him speak at the combine, but to me this shows that theres a pattern of violence, and look at the people he's gone after. A women and an old man. I mean come on man.

The only way to forgive this is if his father started the fight but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I hope people take character a little more seriously during next years draft, as a lot guys around here were calling for Hardy. I didn't really want him, not just because of the character issues but because I thought that Thomas, Kelly, Nelson, and Sweed were all better options, and at the time I thought we were only going to take one reciever.

rypper11 05-18-2008 10:55 AM

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I have no problem with him beating his father. If my father decided to be a part of my life after finding out he could get money out of me I would probably beat him too. He obviously didn't hospitalize him, just roughed him up a little. I say find out why before chastising him. That being said, you don't pull a gun unless your life is in danger.

cochise 05-19-2008 03:56 PM

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Not all Dad's do the right thing.

firstdown 05-19-2008 05:00 PM

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[quote=Big30;448761]Just another player cut from the mold of Pac Man Chris Henry and Tank Johnson all wasting god given talent and acting a complete fool[/quote]
Wow, you signed up to this site to make that your first post?

Dirtbag59 05-19-2008 05:08 PM

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[quote=firstdown;449101]Wow, you signed up to this site to make that your first post?[/quote]

I don't know, I think what he's saying makes sense. Of course the grammer isn't perfect but does anyone really have perfect grammer?

prinzeofmoval 05-21-2008 12:24 AM

Re: J. Hardy Beats Dad, Pulls Gun.
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;448775]That was pretty uncalled for (unless you're talking about your dad in which case...I'm not a moderator for your family).

As for the Hardy situation, we don't know the whole story. If I were to guess, some pent up emotions were released and things got heated. And Hardy's dad decided not to press any charges after realizing that his son is about to get PAID, and it would behoove the dad to stay on his good side.[/QUOTE]

lol...naw that was my pops.but reading it again i can see how that could've been mixed up.

mooby 05-21-2008 03:49 AM

Re: J. Hardy Beats Dad, Pulls Gun.
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;449103]I don't know, I think what he's saying makes sense. Of course the grammer isn't perfect but does anyone really have perfect grammer?[/quote]

Well, I would hardly label a guy as cut from the same mold of Pacman and Chris Henry, both have extensive rap sheets whereas all James Hardy has done is get into a fight with his dad and pull a gun on him. And nobody knows what the fight was over so I'm not crucifying the guy just yet. He probably got extremely pissed at his dad, starting fighting him (as I've said earlier, if my dad was a deadbeat when I was growing up chances are good if he came back into my life when I made it big I'd probably hate him and probably want him out of my life as well) and then pulled a gun.

And even though an earlier poster said there's no reason to pull a gun if you're not going to shoot, well I'm guessing Hardy pulled the gun to basically say to his dad "F off, I don't want to talk to you and I want you to leave my life forever, and this gun is showing I'm being dead serious about it."

SeanTaylor21 06-12-2008 09:36 PM

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[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3440239]ESPN - Hardy, Johnson, Gaddis subpoenaed to testify in Lynch hit-and run case - NFL[/url]

Looks like James Hardy is in some more trouble.

Hardy, Johnson, Gaddis subpoenaed to testify in Lynch hit-and run case

Rookie receiver James Hardy was one of three Buffalo Bills players subpoenaed Thursday to testify before a grand jury looking into a hit-and-run accident involving running back Marshawn Lynch's SUV.

Besides Hardy, the Bills' second-round draft pick, rookie receiver Steve Johnson and second-year offensive lineman Christian Gaddis also were subpoenaed, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation confirmed to The Associated Press. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because the person is not authorized to release that information.

The Buffalo News first reported the names of the players on its Web site.

Buffalo Police Department spokesman Michael DeGeorge said "a high-ranking member of the Bills security staff" also was subpoenaed.


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