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Skins4Eva 05-19-2008 09:52 PM

Colt Brennan
 
What I find intriguing is the selection of Colt Brennan and it is felt by some that he is the hands down better fit, with some strength and conditioning improvements, for Zorn's offense than is Jason Campbell. He has a lightning quick release, excellent footwork, and is super accurate. (He is actually even more accurate moving out of the pocket while moving) While he may not be able to throw 70 yards or even have half of the athletic ability Campbell has...he is a feisty competitor and super confident (borderline cocky)...needed attributes of an NFL QB. The offense will be quick hitting, hard to figure out, and most definitely will not be an offense to sit on a lead. Zorn's offense is built to simply score touchdowns, not field goals on every possession regardless of field position. I hope Jason is the starter for many years to come, however, I have gut feeling that Colt Brennan will be the Redskins starter in a few years and will seriously push Jason Campbell either into being a better QB or out of the starting job. What do yall think.

wilsowilso 05-19-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
It seems that Washington is an ideal place for him to develop because he needs to play in a system like the West Coast to maximize his strengths. I also think that Jason Campbell is going to be a Pro Bowl QB and young Colt will only see the field in the next few years if there is an injury situation. People seem to think that JC is not an accurate QB. They are wrong.

backrow 05-19-2008 10:26 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=Skins4Eva;449142][B][SIZE="4"]I hope Jason is the starter for many years to come[/SIZE][/B], however, I have gut feeling that Colt Brennan will be the Redskins starter in a few years and will seriously push Jason Campbell either into being a better QB or out of the starting job. What do yall think.[/QUOTE]


You should have stopped with what I bolded for you. One thing JC is not nor will he ever be is a former felon.
Brennan is merely this year's Sage Rosenfels.

Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor 05-19-2008 10:30 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Colt is a better fit for the offense and I do believe that he will be the unquestioned quarterback of the skins in the near future. Remember JC was not picked by Zorn and Colt is. I believe that Zorn wants his own guy to run his offense.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-19-2008 11:05 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
I do not mean to sound rude, but I am simply amazed by how much hype there is surrounding this 6th round pick. He's small, he has a checkered past, and he looked less than impressive at the Senior Bowl. I hope he turns out to be a Pro Bowl QB, but there is a reason why all 32 teams passed on him in the first five rounds of the draft.

mooby 05-20-2008 03:30 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;449150]I do not mean to sound rude, but I am simply amazed by how much hype there is surrounding this 6th round pick. He's small, he has a checkered past, and he looked less than impressive at the Senior Bowl. I hope he turns out to be a Pro Bowl QB, but there is a reason why all 32 teams passed on him in the first five rounds of the draft.[/quote]

Agreed. The kid is a 6th round rookie draft pick at quarterback, who's not even expected to be a starter in this league at all, and I've already seen people annointing him the next Tom Brady. What exactly have you seen that suggests he will be the future starter for this team and not Jason Campbell?

GMScud 05-20-2008 03:59 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Colt Brennan = Ty Detmer

djnemo65 05-20-2008 04:17 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
A quarterback taken in the sixth round is viewed as a potential second stringer, nothing more. That being said, I like Brennan's confidence and overall passion for the game, and I also like the fact that Zorn identified him as someone he wants to coach.

With the right supervision I believe he will bloom into a fine backup quarterback.

HOGTIMUS PRIME 05-20-2008 04:35 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
What I believe the hype about Colt is 2 things, 1 WCO, and 2 Joe Montana, he's about the same size as Joe, in the same type of offense, with probably the same type of arm strength, and mobility, Colt has been throughout his entire career a ridiculously accurate QB even in high school when he didn't have a run and shoot offense. I think in the back of a lot of minds that is what people are thinking, or hoping. Of coarse to believe he would be another Montana is quite hard right now and probably very unrealistic, but stranger things have happened, Montana 3rd rd, Brady 6th, and Brady couldn't start for his college team, so where he was drafted as far as I am concerned is irrelevant, what he can do on the field is, and we have a lot of time to find that out.

The level of competition has been a big concern, not so much for myself, he played against teams comparable to his own, his team couldn't handle a big time team, but that doesn't mean Colt couldn't if he had players of equal talent or there abouts on his team. The bottom line is this we used a 6th rd pick on this kid, how can you go wrong under those circumstances? We gave up a heck of a lot more for Campbell and still after 3 seasons we wait and wonder?

dmek25 05-20-2008 06:28 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;449150]I do not mean to sound rude, but I am simply amazed by how much hype there is surrounding this 6th round pick. He's small, he has a checkered past, and he looked less than impressive at the Senior Bowl. I hope he turns out to be a Pro Bowl QB, but [B]there is a reason why all 32 teams passed on him in the first five[/B] [B]rounds of the draft[/B].[/quote]
first, i think Brennen has minimum talent. but this logic is flawed. wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?

Darrell_Green_28 05-20-2008 07:33 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;449150]I do not mean to sound rude, but I am simply amazed by how much hype there is surrounding this 6th round pick. He's small, he has a checkered past, and he looked less than impressive at the Senior Bowl. I hope he turns out to be a Pro Bowl QB, but there is a reason why all 32 teams passed on him in the first five rounds of the draft.[/quote]

His recent surgery didn't any, I'm sure.

djnemo65 05-20-2008 07:58 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
To be fair, he was being talked about as a third round pick not so long ago. He had two bad games which dropped his stock - one in which he was severely over matched, the other in which he was injured - but he has quite a pedigree as far as sixth round picks go. He is the all-time NCAA TD leader, which is no small accomplishment.

MTK 05-20-2008 08:55 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
It's cool that some are excited about Brennan but let's chill just a bit and wait until we see how he looks in live action in the NFL.

I think he's a bit of a project and will need some serious coaching up at the pro level before he's really ready to see serious action.

Until then let's hope JC continues to develop and never gives the coaches a reason to turn to Brennan.

sandtrapjack 05-20-2008 09:25 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=HOGTIMUS PRIME;449171]What I believe the hype about Colt is 2 things, 1 WCO, and 2 Joe Montana, he's about the same size as Joe, in the same type of offense, with probably the same type of arm strength, and mobility, Colt has been throughout his entire career a ridiculously accurate QB even in high school when he didn't have a run and shoot offense. I think in the back of a lot of minds that is what people are thinking, or hoping. Of coarse to believe he would be another Montana is quite hard right now and probably very unrealistic, but stranger things have happened, Montana 3rd rd, Brady 6th, and Brady couldn't start for his college team, so where he was drafted as far as I am concerned is irrelevant, what he can do on the field is, and we have a lot of time to find that out.

The level of competition has been a big concern, not so much for myself, he played against teams comparable to his own, his team couldn't handle a big time team, but that doesn't mean Colt couldn't if he had players of equal talent or there abouts on his team. The bottom line is this we used a 6th rd pick on this kid, how can you go wrong under those circumstances? We gave up a heck of a lot more for Campbell and still after 3 seasons we wait and wonder?[/quote]
You are correct, comparing him to a "Montana" in any shape or form is ludicrous.

Facts are facts and nothing can change them. And the fact is Brennan was a very good player in a very bad conference. Say what you will about his accomplishments at Hawaii, but the reality is that Colt Brennan excelled in a conference that is more like a "farm league" for division 1. He was a "big fish in a small pond". But now he is being thrown into the deep end and he is just another fish. Unless it is an offensive lineman, the WAC (aka [B]W[/B]eak-[B]A[/B]ss-[B]C[/B]onference) is known historically for producing standout players at that level, but once they get to the pro's, they struggle tremendously. See Timmy Chang. The proof is in the pudding, Brennan and Hawaii were undefeated until they played a REAL division 1 team, Georgia, in the Sugar Bowl and the Bulldogs EMBARASSED the Rainbow Warriors 41-10.

The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers. But the run and shoot has not been used in the NFL since the Houston Oilers of the 90's. For this fact, Brennan is a project type player. He will have to re-learn the game from a new perspective against the best players in the world. He has a long road to travel. I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.

Jason Campbell is the best option that give the Redskins the best opportunity to win. I don't think Brennan will even present a viable challenge to Campbell.

Nothing against Brennan, but I look at the school, conference and offense he came from, and none of them compare to anything he will see at the pro level.

I was shocked to see the 'Skins take him in the 6th round. I would have bet that he would have gone undrafted and you could have signed him as a UDFA and saved some money.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-20-2008 09:36 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;449175]first, i think Brennen has minimum talent. but this logic is flawed. wasn't Brady a 6th rounder?[/QUOTE]

Wait, my logic was flawed?

Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. Tom Brady is a HoF quarterback. Colt Brennan was a 6th round pick. Therefore Colt Brennan is going ot be a HoF QB?

I didn't say it was impossible for Colt to be a good or even great QB. But let's be real, it's rather unlikely. For every Tom Brady there are hundreds of wash outs.

Monkeydad 05-20-2008 10:32 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=GMScud;449164]Colt Brennan = Ty Detmer[/quote]

You're giving him too much credit. Detmer actually played in the NFL. :D

dmek25 05-20-2008 10:43 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
i think i just said all q.b's taken in the 6th round are hall of famers? Brennen will have his hands full just trying to make the team. sorry sheriff

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-20-2008 10:51 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;449209]i think i just said all q.b's taken in the 6th round are hall of famers? Brennen will have his hands full just trying to make the team. sorry sheriff[/QUOTE]

My only points were: (1) that it is unlikely that Brennan will turn out to be some stud; and (2) I never said Brennan absolutely cannot become a good QB, so I don't know how my logic was flawed. I also realize that you do not think much of Brennan, but I cringe when I hear references to Brady being drafted in the 6th round.

redsk1 05-20-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
It's always interesting to see how a QB makes the transition to the NFL after tearing it up in college. It's the Heisman trophy thing. Just b/c you might be the best player in college doesn't mean your game will continue to be the same in the pros. I think that's why you get so much disagreement.

In CB's case, he's a passer and not just an athelete who happens to play QB. It wll be interesting to see. Let's be realistic though, right now he's just trying to make the team. He's not going to play this year or next unless we have some serious injuires.

freddyg12 05-20-2008 11:37 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Colt is a good athlete & throws the ball well, but that can be said of most of the qb's that go to nfl camps. He'll have to show some composure in the preseason after his last 2 outings as a college qb (v. Georgia & the senior bowl). It may not have been his fault but in that georgia game, you couldn't tell much about his game.

I don't think the coaches will be quick to cut him unless Hollenbach or someone else really emerges as decent prospect to be future #2. I see him at least making the practice squad.

He needs 2 solid years as a clip board holder. I think it will come down to his work ethic & patience. I believe he's talented enough to play in the nfl, he's just going to take a while to develop. He's light years behind JC at this point.

skinsfan69 05-20-2008 11:56 AM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=djnemo65;449179]To be fair, he was being talked about as a third round pick not so long ago. He had two bad games which dropped his stock - one in which he was severely over matched, the other in which he was injured - but he has quite a pedigree as far as sixth round picks go. He is the all-time NCAA TD leader, which is no small accomplishment.[/quote]

So was Timmy Chang,Ty Detmer, Andre Ware and David Klingler. In the system and conference he plays in stats are so out of whack. The defenses in the WAC conference are just not on the same level as the SEC. If he were playing against top teams his stats wouldn't be so crazy. He plays agaisnt teams like Nevada most of the time. You still have to be a good college player but the all time TD record doesn't tell the whole story.

freddyg12 05-20-2008 12:00 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=skinsfan69;449226]So was Timmy Chang,Ty Detmer, Andre Ware and David Klingler. In the system and conference he plays in stats are so out of whack. The defenses in the WAC conference are just not on the same level as the SEC. If he were playing against top teams his stats wouldn't be so crazy. He plays agaisnt teams like Nevada most of the time. You still have to be a good college player but the all time TD record doesn't tell the whole story.[/quote]

well put & good references. I haven't heard Chang mentioned in...don't know how long!

I think it's awfully hard for scouts to evaluate speed in reading defenses & delivering the ball at that level of competition. some guys can look awfully quick because their whole team is much better than the competition.

I'll at least say that Colt seemed tough in that georgia game cause they put him on his back a no. of times.

GMScud 05-20-2008 12:47 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;449216]My only points were: (1) that it is unlikely that Brennan will turn out to be some stud; and (2) I never said Brennan absolutely cannot become a good QB, so I don't know how my logic was flawed. I also realize that you do not think much of Brennan, but I cringe when I hear references to Brady being drafted in the 6th round.[/quote]

Agreed. Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, and Ron Dayne all put up gigantic numbers in college and none have done anything significant as pros. And Tom Brady is a once-in-league-history story. To think that'll happen again is dreaming.

JoeRedskin 05-20-2008 12:59 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;449238]Agreed. Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, and Ron Dayne all put up gigantic numbers in college and none have done anything significant as pros. And Tom Brady is a once-in-league-history story. To think that'll happen again is dreaming.[/QUOTE]

I would say Brady is rare but not "once in a league history" thing - Unitas was the original Brady.

GMScud 05-20-2008 01:16 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;449241]I would say Brady is rare but not "once in a league history" thing - Unitas was the original Brady.[/quote]

Brady was a 6th round pick who only got a shot because of a fluke injury to Drew Bledsoe, and has gone on to win 3 super bowls and put up ridiculous offensive numbers, has made multiple pro-bowls, and has a good chance of going down as the best QB in league history before it's all said and done. I'd say that's pretty darn close to a once in a lifetime kind of situation.

GoSkins! 05-20-2008 02:08 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
The good news for Brennen is that there is an open spot at #3 quarterback. He has every shot at making the team. Hasselbeck was a 6th round pick and it took him 4 years as a backup before he was ready to start. Tony Romo was undrafted. Hasselbeck is probably a more realistic comparisson than "Brady was a 6th round pick". Brady is the "once in a generation" exception. I would think that the Hasselbeck senario is what Zorn and co. are hoping for.... and there have been plenty of good QB's to come out of the late rounds or undrafted (at least for the NFC).

For comparison sake...
2007 Pro Bowl QB's (NFC)
Drew Brees - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drew_Brees"][B]NFL Draft[/B]: 2001 / Round: 2 / Pick: 32[/URL]
Mark Bulger - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Bulger"][B]NFL Draft[/B]: 2000 / Round: 6 / Pick: 168[/URL]
Tony Romo - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Romo"]Undrafted in 2003[/URL]

2008 Pro Bowl QB's (NFC)
Brett Farve - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre"][B]NFL Draft[/B]: 1991 / Round: 2 / Pick: 33[/URL]
Tony Romo - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Romo"]Undrafted in 2003[/URL]
Matt Hasselbeck - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Hasselbeck"][B]NFL Draft[/B]: 1998 / Round: 6 / Pick: 184[/URL]
Jeff Garcia - [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Garcia"]Undrafted in 1994[/URL]

Defensewins 05-20-2008 02:17 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Colt and Andre Ware is a great comparison right now. An unproven small school QB that played in the pass happy run & shoot offense. His passing numbers (records) in college are inflated because they threw the ball a lot and they played against weak teams.

Hey I welcome Colt to the Redskins and hope he becomes great. But it is definitely a wait and see situation. Last season Carson Palmer's brother was also brought with good potential and he is....?

Slingin Sammy 33 05-20-2008 02:19 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=freddyg12;449227]well put & good references. I haven't heard Chang mentioned in...don't know how long![/quote]

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/23347-colt-brennan-profile.html#post445453[/URL]

:D

JoeRedskin 05-20-2008 02:20 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=GMScud;449243]Brady was a 6th round pick who only got a shot because of a fluke injury to Drew Bledsoe, and has gone on to win 3 super bowls and put up ridiculous offensive numbers, has made multiple pro-bowls, and has a good chance of going down as the best QB in league history before it's all said and done. I'd say that's pretty darn close to a once in a lifetime kind of situation.[/QUOTE]

I'll give you "once in a lifetime" or "once in a generation". You originally, however, said "once in league history". But, like I said, Unitas had similar travails and is considered one of the greatest, if not THE greatest ever. My point is simply that Brady's story has happened before and, in all likliehood, will happen again at some point (albeit around 2030ish).

70Chip 05-20-2008 02:40 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Watching Colt Brennan against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl was embarrasing. From memory he had 3 ints and 8 sacks. He also looked slow and confused. I realize his team was overmatched but he really wasn't much help either. The BCS needs to do more to weed out these phony teams and their phony undefeated records. Georgia should have been playing for a National Title and instead they get a J.V. High School team.

30gut 05-20-2008 02:48 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=Skins4Eva;449142]What I find intriguing is the selection of Colt Brennan and it is felt by some that he is the hands down better fit, with some strength and conditioning improvements, for Zorn's offense than is Jason Campbell. He has a lightning quick release, excellent footwork, and is super accurate. (He is actually even more accurate moving out of the pocket while moving) While he may not be able to throw 70 yards or even have half of the athletic ability Campbell has...he is a feisty competitor and super confident (borderline cocky)...needed attributes of an NFL QB. The offense will be quick hitting, hard to figure out, and most definitely will not be an offense to sit on a lead. Zorn's offense is built to simply score touchdowns, not field goals on every possession regardless of field position. I hope Jason is the starter for many years to come, however, I have gut feeling that Colt Brennan will be the Redskins starter in a few years and will seriously push Jason Campbell either into being a better QB or out of the starting job. What do yall think.[/QUOTE]

C'mon man, really?-Already? You're joking right?
This guy:
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Right now at best Colt Brennan is the backup's backup.
Maybe with improvement in 2-3 years Colt can be the outright backup.

skinsfan69 05-20-2008 04:47 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Can anyone name a run and shoot QB that has made it in the pros? Or anyone that has played for June Jones? Or anyone that plays from the shotgun most of the time? I can't name one.

sandtrapjack 05-20-2008 04:59 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=skinsfan69;449293]Can anyone name a run and shoot QB that has made it in the pros? Or anyone that has played for June Jones? Or anyone that plays from the shotgun most of the time? I can't name one.[/quote]

Warren Moon, Houston Oilers. Hall of Famer. Houston ran the "run and shoot" with Jack Pardee as head coach and June Jones was the QB coach.

HOGTIMUS PRIME 05-20-2008 05:26 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;449188]You are correct, comparing him to a "Montana" in any shape or form is ludicrous.

Facts are facts and nothing can change them. And the fact is Brennan was a very good player in a very bad conference. Say what you will about his accomplishments at Hawaii, but the reality is that Colt Brennan excelled in a conference that is more like a "farm league" for division 1. He was a "big fish in a small pond". But now he is being thrown into the deep end and he is just another fish. Unless it is an offensive lineman, the WAC (aka [B]W[/B]eak-[B]A[/B]ss-[B]C[/B]onference) is known historically for producing standout players at that level, but once they get to the pro's, they struggle tremendously. See Timmy Chang. The proof is in the pudding, Brennan and Hawaii were undefeated until they played a REAL division 1 team, Georgia, in the Sugar Bowl and the Bulldogs EMBARASSED the Rainbow Warriors 41-10.

The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers. But the run and shoot has not been used in the NFL since the Houston Oilers of the 90's. For this fact, Brennan is a project type player. He will have to re-learn the game from a new perspective against the best players in the world. He has a long road to travel. I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.

Jason Campbell is the best option that give the Redskins the best opportunity to win. I don't think Brennan will even present a viable challenge to Campbell.

Nothing against Brennan, but I look at the school, conference and offense he came from, and none of them compare to anything he will see at the pro level.

I was shocked to see the 'Skins take him in the 6th round. I would have bet that he would have gone undrafted and you could have signed him as a UDFA and saved some money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers[/QUOTE]

How ironic, he will be running a system in the NFL that has had very similar results.

[QUOTE]I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.
[/QUOTE]

I will take a piece of that action any day of the week, you should pay attention we have no 3rd string QB, Zorn is committed to him for at the very least this season, if you think this kid isn't going to at the very least be a great practice QB your sadly mistaken.

Some of the greatest players in the history of the NFL came out of small schools, Payton, Rice etc.

Wasn't Romo undrafted?

Do you think Brennan would have won a national champ. if he QB LSU this past season? It would be tough to say no?

Rajmahal33 05-20-2008 06:21 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
According to scout.com:

[URL="http://was.scout.com/a.z?s=71&p=2&c=755588"]Rookie most likely to: Be a steal in five years...Colt Brennan[/URL]


They presented their "rookie most likely to" list and Colt was listed as a steal by the skins (if u scroll over using the graphic arrows a few times over). Here is what they had to say:

[I]A lot of pundits think that Brennan will be nothing more than an Arena League quarterback because he doesn’t have the ideal size, throwing motion or overall quickness that translate to the NFL. But the one thing about Brennan is that anytime someone questions his ability, he always bounces back and proves all of his doubters wrong. ][/I]

[I]In the last ten years, there have been four quarterbacks selected in the sixth round that have gone on to be Pro Bowl players: Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady and Derek Anderson. I’m not going to compare Brennan with any of the quarterbacks mentioned, but his resiliency is uncanny, and nothing seems to faze him.[/I]

[I]Brennan is in the perfect situation with the Redskins to show he’s capable of being an efficient NFL quarterback. New Head Coach Jim Zorn brings his West Coast offense to Washington, and Brennan is the perfect QB to develop in this offense. Although he worked out of the shotgun at Hawaii, Brennan has experience in the West Coast system going back to his high school days. Brennan’s quick release, accuracy and ability to run the offense will be enough to push Jason Campbell for the starting job in two years.
[/I]

skinsfan69 05-20-2008 06:29 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=sandtrapjack;449299]Warren Moon, Houston Oilers. Hall of Famer. Houston ran the "run and shoot" with Jack Pardee as head coach and June Jones was the QB coach.[/quote]

I meant someone who played in this type of system in college.

SBXVII 05-20-2008 06:45 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Where did Spurier go? His system is in effect a "Run and Shoot" offense. No matter what fancy names he wants to call it.

GMScud 05-20-2008 06:51 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
[quote=70Chip;449264]Watching Colt Brennan against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl was embarrasing. From memory he had 3 ints and 8 sacks. He also looked slow and confused. I realize his team was overmatched but he really wasn't much help either. The BCS needs to do more to weed out these phony teams and their phony undefeated records. Georgia should have been playing for a National Title and instead they get a J.V. High School team.[/quote]

"Phony teams" ?? "Phony undefeated records" ??

I disagree. Was Boise State's undefeated record "phony" when they beat Oklahoma two years ago? Aside from them and Hawaii last year, how many undefeated "phony" teams are there? Colt Brennan and his #1 WR Davone Bess were both viewed as solid NFL prospects, Brennan put up massive numbers his entire career, and their team is coached by June Jones who was a long time successful assistant in the NFL. Not to mention the undefeated WAC team from the year prior (Boise St) gave us one of the best BCS games ever when they beat Oklahoma with the statue of liberty.

So can you really blame them for giving Hawaii their shot? Georgia was a legitimate contender from the best conference last year, and simply had too much speed on both sides of the ball. Was it Brennan's fault that his offensive line looked like deer in headlights in the face of Georgia's pass rush? That game wasn't any worse than Florida's 41-14 smackdown of 13-0 (and heavily favored) Ohio St in the national championship the year before. Was Ohio St "phony?" On any given Sunday. Or Saturday in this case. You just never know.

By the way, for those who diss the WAC, they don't get an automatic BCS bid, and keep in mind Boise St, Fresno St, and Hawaii are solid programs year in and year out.

ptracy20 05-20-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Guys please remember one thing. Colt had a great season playing in a pass happy offense agianst sub par teams. In the bowl game agianst Georgia his first real test all year he looked awful. He is a career backup at best and never anything more.

SBXVII 05-20-2008 07:06 PM

Re: Colt Brennan
 
Hey, I'm sometimes a glass half full kinda guy. Colt will have to prove it to me before I list him as the next Bret Farve. I agree some of the best come out of small schools and agree they usually were late round picks. However you need to also take into consideration he's not the tallest QB or solidly built like some. Some are worried that if he takes one good hit from a lineman he's going down. Who knows. but you don't come into the NFL as being the best QB. Let him earn it.


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